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Carrier posted:Lol this is depressing. I joined my current job 9 months ago and I'm getting paid £40k-45k (dependant on bonus) for an entry level tech-adjacent sometimes computer touching consultancy position and it sucks rear end and I've been looking to move out into more computer touching positions but those numbers don't make it super appealing lol. Do you have EU citizenship? if yes come work in Denmark. We all speak English and the pay is through the roof.
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champagne posting posted:Do you have EU citizenship? if yes come work in Denmark. We all speak English and the pay is through the roof. I wish! I do have some vague connections in some startups out of DTU etc. that I've considered looking into but I'm not sure I'm at the stage in my career where I want to be moving countries to work at startups with questionable viability. Copenhagen always did seem cool af tho...
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Carrier posted:I wish! I do have some vague connections in some startups out of DTU etc. that I've considered looking into but I'm not sure I'm at the stage in my career where I want to be moving countries to work at startups with questionable viability. Copenhagen always did seem cool af tho... create an llc or w/e you call it in the UK, contract remotely with Danish companies, proceed to rake it in The only thing the people I work for care about, I mean beyond technical expertise, is that I can charge VAT. PM me if you want, I'll put you in touch with some leeches who send contracts edit: copenhagen is hella cool and about half as expensive to live in as london
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Sep 8, 2021 14:34
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i have a third-round interview tomorrow morning that i'm very excited for. apparently i impressed the HR and execs, but i'm more nervous about the tech interview. i don't think it will be much LC poo poo but more along the lines of system design since the position is a 'senior backend engineer'. i can't recommend enough the 'Designing Data-Intensive Applications' book. it's like having the answer key to a test.
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Sep 8, 2021 15:10
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I don’t know if I trust the UK government stats on computer money, I was easily getting paid more than that in London almost ten years ago. I’ve also been hearing rumblings from some friends that I still have there that a lot of companies are waking up and offering serious money to engineers for even some unremarkable roles, but I guess ymmv.
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Sep 8, 2021 17:22
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about 10 years ago I looked at relocation to london and working out of the company's office there and they wanted me to take a giant pay cut [like 40% iirc] so I noped out
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Sep 8, 2021 17:32
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qirex posted:about 10 years ago I looked at relocation to london and working out of the company's office there and they wanted me to take a giant pay cut [like 40% iirc] so I noped out yeah when I was in London the word from management at the time was “don’t look at USA salaries, they’re in nyc, it’s expensive” which made me laugh because London is actually on par with nyc in cost of living. I don’t see myself ever going back unless some hedge fund or something drove a brinks truck to my directly to my door.
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Sep 8, 2021 17:48
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qhat posted:yeah when I was in London the word from management at the time was “don’t look at USA salaries, they’re in nyc, it’s expensive” which made me laugh because London is actually on par with nyc in cost of living. I don’t see myself ever going back unless some hedge fund or something drove a brinks truck to my directly to my door.
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Sep 8, 2021 17:58
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RokosCockatrice posted:Check out levels.fyi if you want some total comp numbers for faang. Equity ends up being the lions share of comp with it being rare to see base going over 200. I think that's tax advantaged but base is going higher, mine is 270 + ~60k bonus.
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Sep 8, 2021 19:52
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I'm a ones and zeros kind of numbers guy so I have no idea.
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https://twitter.com/chucktingle/status/1435280565691826177
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Sep 8, 2021 19:56
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wait, tingles doing a straight tingler? whats the world come to?
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Sep 8, 2021 20:04
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it’s called being inclusive you rear end in a top hat
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Sep 8, 2021 20:06
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I don't think we should include bob dobbs' rear end in a top hat.
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Sep 8, 2021 20:07
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Different strokes for different folks I guess.
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Sep 8, 2021 20:07
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bob dobbs is dead posted:wait, tingles doing a straight tingler? whats the world come to? quote:Carly Pimble hates her job at Cobbler Corp, and heading in for another day at the office typically fills her with a sense of utter dread. Today, however, is different.
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Sep 8, 2021 20:11
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FamDav posted:base is going higher, mine is 270 + ~60k bonus. what the hell can one person do worth 330 a year I'll do it for 325
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Sep 9, 2021 04:10
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RokosCockatrice posted:what the hell can one person do worth 330 a year i dunno ask your mom and dad they like my vibe
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Sep 9, 2021 05:42
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i humbly retract my offer
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qhat posted:I don’t know if I trust the UK government stats on computer money, I was easily getting paid more than that in London almost ten years ago. I’ve also been hearing rumblings from some friends that I still have there that a lot of companies are waking up and offering serious money to engineers for even some unremarkable roles, but I guess ymmv. Yeah I don't know myself, but to be fair it's "all jobs England, Wales, Scotland, NI" which will be considerably less than London, particularly hot parts of London as I said earlier. Also it's based on ONS (office of national statistics for non-UK peeps) figures, but whether that's reliable YMMV. e: I mean I'm making almost double of those figures myself, but then I remotely work for a company based in London. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 11:03 on Sep 9, 2021 |
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Sep 9, 2021 11:00
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i make £70k in northern ireland which is the lowest-paying part of the uk so yeah those stats are really really wrong
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Frankly I think those figures probably line up closely to the completely pathetic salaries the government pays their own computer workers, including the poor sods at GCHQ. I did an internship there for a summer, and my first job out of uni was private and I was earning almost as much as the most senior guy on the team I was working for in the donut. Government salaries are a complete joke, and don't give me that "gold plated pension" bollocks, it doesn't make up for being unpaid by like 3-4 times your worth.
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Sep 10, 2021 00:43
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I had a great third round interview today. flubbed a few easy questions like dependency injection, but totally nailed some difficult stuff and surprised myself. later when talking about an initial offer, I quoted 175k base to start negotiations and the HR person said “yikes!” lol.
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Sep 10, 2021 04:34
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is there a trusted source for uk salaries?
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champagne posting posted:is there a trusted source for uk salaries? I don't have one, I suspect it's tricky as there are really big variations by location/industry. Like lawyers I suspect it's bi or trimodal. ime (and from my current orgs salary bands, which they did put a lot of research into, it's something like this): lovely non London Dev shops Junior <£30k Mid <£40k Senior <£60 Funded startups and legit companies which take tech seriously (my current place, so hopefully this one is accurate) Junior 30-35k Mid 55-65k Snr 70-100k Staff 90k+ You can maybe get an extra 10 or so if it's central London offices. Finance jobs can get way above that but is super role and company dependent. A decent one will pay double or more (including bonuses) the second set above. I worked two full years as a mid at a great place (not as a quant though) and made 100 then 150 total. I can't speak to what Google, Facebook etc pay, I assume similar to finance. E: feel free to suggest edits, maybe we can make a yospos UK salary guide distortion park fucked around with this message at 08:42 on Sep 10, 2021 |
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Sep 10, 2021 08:22
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Here (Manchester) it tends to be £40k - £90k for most roles, senior roles being around £70k. For things dahn Sarf I've had salaries up to £130k quoted to me.
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Sep 10, 2021 08:27
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im interviewing for some data-related positions - would be happy for some technical refresher materials, python-focused, for what is stuff code tests or pair programming interviews want to see these days. ive done applied ml or data engineering predominantly, so i dont really know stuff like fart sort implementation off the bat
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Sep 10, 2021 13:53
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Have an offer. Trying not to sign it before they answer some performative questions about benefits.
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Sep 13, 2021 21:25
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if you’re not very far in the interview process and the job posting disappears is that a bad sign??
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better than not getting a response/follow-up and they repost it a week later
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Sep 15, 2021 04:22
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fourwood posted:if you’re not very far in the interview process and the job posting disappears is that a bad sign?? it just means that they're keeping their candidate pipe full until they sign something, same as you should be
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raminasi posted:it just means that they're keeping their candidate pipe full until they sign something, same as you should be i love filling pipe
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Sep 15, 2021 09:15
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For computer touchers at US companies with >500 employees, how many direct reports does your manager have? Manager being the person that is above you on an org chart, and likely not doing much, if any, technical work.
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Sep 16, 2021 13:44
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my manager normally has 4-6 direct reports he had 8 for a bit last year, and we were down to 3 for a bit this summer he does no technical work and spends most of his time in meetings with other managers
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15, in a nearly 400,000 person enterprise, all individual contributors management here is a separate progression track from development, so people don't normally get promoted into management, just into reporting to management further up the chain carry on then fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Sep 16, 2021 |
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Sep 16, 2021 16:03
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three jobs ago: 20-40 i don’t know the exact number. it was a high turnover sweatshop and i’m not sure he even knew my name two jobs ago: about ten people and he was still doing technical work. he shortly promoted two people under him to handle the day to day managing stuff where each of them had four under them last job: about 4-5 current job: 6-8
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CarForumPoster posted:For computer touchers at US companies with >500 employees, how many direct reports does your manager have? Manager being the person that is above you on an org chart, and likely not doing much, if any, technical work. 6ish?
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CarForumPoster posted:For computer touchers at US companies with >500 employees, how many direct reports does your manager have? Manager being the person that is above you on an org chart, and likely not doing much, if any, technical work. i'm the most senior engineer on my team so i report to our director who has a number of reports but before that my previous manager had 4 reports iirc and that seemed like the sweet spot
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Sep 16, 2021 20:50
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When I was a manager it was around 8-10 at my previous org. After their hilariously awful gently caress up of a reorg it was around 10-16 and was a mess because managers were now non-technical and many had no idea what their reports where doing.. When it was 8-10 I had a team lead I could delegate to and I was still expected to be technical. It was still a handful dealing with 10 people. 5-6 is the sweet spot imho
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Sep 16, 2021 22:41
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20 and he doesnt care or need to care about my existence we operate basically like an open source project but w paychecks. real weird
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CarForumPoster posted:For computer touchers at US companies with >500 employees, how many direct reports does your manager have? Manager being the person that is above you on an org chart, and likely not doing much, if any, technical work. currently 9, the plan is to hire a couple more and add a level so as to have two smaller teams instead of one big one
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