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dead gay comedy forums posted:Does anybody not take the blood legacy? When I start Norse, which has been all my last games for a while since I'm getting that out of my system until the new expansion, I always start with Pillage. I play for achievements and generally I hit the goal before I max the Pillage line.
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Sep 10, 2021 23:11
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dead gay comedy forums posted:Does anybody not take the blood legacy? Blood is fun once or twice, but also crazy op, kinda takes the fun out of it for me. I love the military line because it allows you to punch above your weight as you migrate to random places around the world while dispossessing yourself of your old territory.
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Sep 10, 2021 23:17
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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I mean yea, Blood is a legacy about building a strong dynasty... in a game about building strong dynasties. All the others are usually about building individually good rulers, sequentially. Also doesn't help that all the regular legacies are very, very wishy-washy except for the Norse ones. However, as someone else put it, Blood is more fun in the making than playing with the results. Ubermensch get boring quickly, doubly so if you've already munchkin'd your religion.
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Sep 11, 2021 00:02
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Yeah I stopped taking it because it makes the game too easy.
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Sep 11, 2021 01:14
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Blood is okay, but you only need the first two legacies in the tree. The third one is fine, but not really necessary. The forth legacy is only really good for gimmick runs where you want your whole family to be albinos or giants or something. And the added life expectancy on the last legacy...I just don't like it. My characters already live too long for my liking anyway, usually I end up playing as my grandkid because my direct heir already died and the grandkid is likely already an adult. Another thing about Blood: it requires a long playthrough to actually be useful. If you're only going to play for 100-150 years of game time, going for an achievement or something, then there are way better dynasty legacies to pick. trapped mouse fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Sep 11, 2021 |
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Sep 11, 2021 05:29
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dead gay comedy forums posted:Does anybody not take the blood legacy? Brother, I rarely even stick to the same legacy tree. Nothing is more fun in this game than roleplaying a colossal fuckup.
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Sep 11, 2021 12:59
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So I've reformed the Roman empire, control all of Italy, removed all titles from the pope except that papacy. I want to dismantle the papacy (ive mended the schism, and since I have founded my own version of orthodox Christianity), but I don't even get the decision. Not that its grayed out, its just not there. Am I missing something?
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joepinetree posted:So I've reformed the Roman empire, control all of Italy, removed all titles from the pope except that papacy. I want to dismantle the papacy (ive mended the schism, and since I have founded my own version of orthodox Christianity), but I don't even get the decision. Not that its grayed out, its just not there. Am I missing something? These are the requirements:  You are a variant of Christianity so the decision isn't available.
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Sep 11, 2021 17:10
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trapped mouse posted:Blood is okay, but you only need the first two legacies in the tree. Yeah I tend to take the first 2 blood legacies in any game, but I don't finish it. Maybe go back for the 3rd later.
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Started a new game as the Count of Syracuse because I had to get my hard drive replaced. This is my first game in the 867 start for CK3, I've always preferred the 1066 date in all CK games. My first character died relatively early, but my second guy has crowned himself Despot of Sicily. It's like 907ish IIRC. So, there's an independent neighboring duchy of Benevento ruled by a Lombard Catholic. IIRC, all three counties are within the dejure Kingdom of Sicily. Why don't I have any CBs on this guy? Is there an innovation I need for that? If so, that's ludicrous.
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Sep 12, 2021 03:03
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No if you own the Kingdom title you should have de jure claims, though I think that the early game innovations limit you to doing it one county at a time.
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PittTheElder posted:No if you own the Kingdom title you should have de jure claims, though I think that the early game innovations limit you to doing it one county at a time. Maybe it's a bug? I'll see if it clears up when I reload next time.
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Sep 12, 2021 03:25
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Oh no I'm wrong, there is an Innovation you need.
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Sep 12, 2021 03:30
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Charlz Guybon posted:Started a new game as the Count of Syracuse because I had to get my hard drive replaced. You need the Chronicle Writing (early medieval civic) innovation to get de jure duchy CBs. Beyond that, there are also conquest and holy war ducal CBs, which have various lifestyle, religious, fame, and/or devotion requirements.
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PittTheElder posted:Oh no I'm wrong, there is an Innovation you need. Ugh, you're right. Can't even get a CB for a county until the Emperor chooses to research this one. https://ck3.paradoxwikis.com/Casus_belli
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Sep 12, 2021 03:33
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As the dejure liege and as you are both the same religion you should be able to arrange to just vassalize them. Do some espionage.
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Sep 12, 2021 03:35
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M_Gargantua posted:As the dejure liege and as you are both the same religion you should be able to arrange to just vassalize them. Do some espionage. He's a Lombard Catholic and I'm a Greek Orthodox. Even with the true liege bonus, I won't be able to do it. I tried to befriend him, but of course he's the only one I've managed to fail on. I'm the realm's spymaster, but my intrigue is 0, so assassinating him and trying with his heir is probably not going to work.
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Sep 12, 2021 03:42
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Reading up on that page I found a small unrelated detail:quote:AI rulers will only use [Varangian Adventures] if all their held titles are located in the Mainland Scandinavia region. If the Scandinavian Adventurers game rule is not set to Apocalyptic then they also require the Ambitious trait, as well as at least two of the following traits: Adventurer, Arrogant, Brave, Greedy. Oh, so what you're saying is that every game should always be set to Apocalyptic? Defo doing that on my next game.
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Sep 12, 2021 04:53
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Can't wait for the lazy humble content invader.
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Sep 12, 2021 06:21
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I moved my capital from Rome to a nearby county that was Sicilian culture so I could covert, after fabricating the claim on it. Then my guy dies and his son is Russian. I didn't realise this and moved my capital back and now I'm back to loving tribal tech....sigh  There is no other way to do this with my current PC right? I can only move the capital once in a lifetime. I'm thinking I'll wait for a faction to rise and then take the option provided it's Italian or Sicilian.
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Charlz Guybon posted:He's a Lombard Catholic and I'm a Greek Orthodox. Even with the true liege bonus, I won't be able to do it. I tried to befriend him, but of course he's the only one I've managed to fail on. I'm the realm's spymaster, but my intrigue is 0, so assassinating him and trying with his heir is probably not going to work. I once got stuck in a similar situation but luckily I was gay and so were the people I wanted to vassalise, so I just sucked and hosed my way to a unified Kingdom. I've actually starting putting the balance towards bisexuality on new games because it's such an effective strategy.
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Sep 12, 2021 08:58
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Red_Fred posted:I moved my capital from Rome to a nearby county that was Sicilian culture so I could covert, after fabricating the claim on it. Then my guy dies and his son is Russian. I didn't realise this and moved my capital back and now I'm back to loving tribal tech....sigh There's some major decisions that include moving capital as part of a bundle deal, but yea you might have to wait. Alternatively get yourself killed?
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Serephina posted:There's some major decisions that include moving capital as part of a bundle deal, but yea you might have to wait. Alternatively get yourself killed? Funny you say that. My guy got pneumonia and almost did die but made it through...
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Red_Fred posted:There is no other way to do this with my current PC right? I can only move the capital once in a lifetime. I'm thinking I'll wait for a faction to rise and then take the option provided it's Italian or Sicilian. If it helps, you can always move your realm capital to your primary title's capital. You're probably out of luck if you're an emperor already, though.
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Sep 12, 2021 09:45
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Am I wrong or is Pillage an insanely good legacy
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zoux posted:Am I wrong or is Pillage an insanely good legacy Best in the game.
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I've got a save where I made Scandinavian empire on about thirty years to gently caress around with. Recently I discovered becoming Norman by eating French Counties and went Fuedal in 927 and I hate Fuedal! I'm poor and have no use for my Fame as Feudal since I can't afford to maintain the army. I have insane Fame and maxed huscarls so my plan is to raid a lot of money and conquer more using Fame until I have cash reserves for the switch to build money stuff and maybe plan out a Steward heir. Am I missing anything important about this transition?
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Yeah feudal is much more limiting. Transitioning is best done by either migrating to somewhere rich, or amassing a huge bank first. But those limits are kind of necessary, being tribal is so powerful it loses its appeal after a while. zoux posted:Am I wrong or is Pillage an insanely good legacy you are not wrong
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Feudal sucks for Scandanavia because all of your counties are dirt poor and have no development. Thats why tribal your currency is prestige, as its all you've got.
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Is there a cleverer way to handle realm losing land when a vassal dies? I usually just take their stuff and eat the tyranny if i can't manufacture some kind of crime, but that seems rough. Especially when they have several holdings.
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Frances Nurples posted:Is there a cleverer way to handle realm losing land when a vassal dies? I usually just take their stuff and eat the tyranny if i can't manufacture some kind of crime, but that seems rough. Especially when they have several holdings. Depends on the situation. If the other realm is weak, just take it back.
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Sep 13, 2021 03:41
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Get to max crown authority is the cleverest, of course, but bear in mind you can also fabricate claims on your vassals land if need be.
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Sep 13, 2021 03:41
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hmmm, what if they are not a direct vassal?
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Sep 13, 2021 03:56
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Can't recall if you can retract vassals of a vassal with a claim. Other situational workarounds include: Making the dying idiot get a heir by chucking some 16 y/o girl at them; or seeing if the title has claimants 2nd/3rd in line who are in your realm then just killing the foreign heir(s). Foreign heirs are usually a consequence of instability/conquering and so you're usually in a position to go warmongering/murdering to tie up loose ends.
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Sep 13, 2021 04:13
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Retracting vassals always has a tyranny cost, but it's only -5.
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Sep 13, 2021 04:51
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too late, i accidentally became the emperor of the HRE and consequently died of stress but also lol:
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Sep 13, 2021 06:26
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Is there a way to prevent a crusade against you from one of your own vassals? The pope is my vassal, has a high opinion of me, I have a strong hook on him, and he is still planning a crusade against me soon. If I arrest him before the crusade sets off can I insta-win the crusade?
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I think if you own the pope but you're not Catholic, the answer is 'dismantle the papacy' or other major decisions that obliterate him. He's there to mash the crusade button on cooldown, that's his job.
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and then things got real weird
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