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Mordiceius posted:It also feels like we have a large percentage of posters that like to use threads to chat and then a very vocal minority that have no other goal than trolling, loving with people, and encouraging others to do the same. There is no reconciling the two sides. seems like the ignore function would handle all the stux complaints
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brand engager posted:seems like the ignore function would handle all the stux complaints Might as well gas the thread then lol
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Sep 13, 2021 18:47
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Trolling the Stadia thread is okay because it's the Stadia thread, and if light mock threads can't handle trolling then they've gotten too serious and need to be gassed before they become too much of a problem. Trolling other threads is not okay, for example the switch thread or the steam games thread or the Eve thread or the big anime tiddy gambling phone game for children thread are not okay to shitpost in. Actually on second thought maybe shitpost in that last one.
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Sep 13, 2021 18:51
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the thread didn’t get banished it’s just in another subforum. you can still go there. it’s still a thread. wtf???
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Sep 13, 2021 18:52
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Honestly the Stadia thread might well die without Stux. They're the third highest count poster and the other two high post counts seem to be mostly getting mad at Stux.
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Sep 13, 2021 18:53
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I’ve never been to the Stadia thread but there is some way it is officially classified as a “mock thread”? Maybe better distinctions are needed between mock threads, chat threads, information threads, etc. It would allow for better consistency between rule enforcement.
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Sep 13, 2021 18:53
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Mordiceius posted:I’ve never been to the Stadia thread but there is some way it is officially classified as a “mock thread”? Maybe better distinctions are needed between mock threads, chat threads, information threads, etc. It would allow for better consistency between rule enforcement. It's a thread about the Stadia, being a mock thread is pretty inherent to it existing.
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Sep 13, 2021 18:55
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feels like it's reasonable to expect the average games poster to be able to perform a quick temperature check on a thread but also, there's no thread where you don't report tall joker and it doesn't get probated. that's part of the comedy i don't think games needs a forum taxonomist to declare which threads are acceptable to post jokes in, and a thread having jokes in it doesn't mean you can suddenly break tables
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Sep 13, 2021 18:58
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Yeah, sorry about the LongClown images. I don't think the first couple were reported (or if they were, I missed them) and I didn't see the reports on the last couple until they'd been up for a while screwing up the thread for everyone. I also forgot that I could edit out images in posts until it was pointed out to me, so sorry about that, too 
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Sep 13, 2021 19:00
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I don't see how Stux is "just mocking mock threads" by spamming them with blocks of text and giant images. Maybe that might have been Stux' position before but now it's clearly just "spam the thread incessantly until it's gassed". And as for the people calling for the Stadia thread to be closed, I mean, if trolling is just allowed there now as long as it's slow, then those people are right. It really doesn't seem worth it. I like the Stadia thread, because yeah, it's fun to dunk on Google, but if it's going to make this much work for the mod team then just cut it off already.
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Sep 13, 2021 19:10
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I think that chaos is an important part of a comedy forum. It is a fool’s errand to demand consistent moderation from THE BIG BOOK OF RULES. This is more of a rollicking adaptive, precedent-based judgement system that mostly works out. It mostly works out because a healthy forums culture needs to dance on the edge between order and cacophony. I think the people calling for Stux to be exiled are displaying an ugly impulse.
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Sep 13, 2021 19:10
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I think my point is: and I suppose this might be beyond the scope of games, but maybe not so I'm tossing it out there: Why keep around folks who's enjoyment of the community is almost entirely based around ruining others' enjoyment of the community? Like, part of the reason I stick around here is that people seemed to mostly be adults and doing dumb and dickish poo poo outside of very specific places FOR dumb dickish poo poo got moderated and eventually probed and then banned. I see this a LOT in the actual games and groups, so that's nice, but the forms themselves feel very different. Reminds me of when I was leading a goon guild and people would complain a out someone and wed laugh and go "haha, yeah they're just a dick." Eventually we went "wait, if their whole deal is just being a dick, why are we keeping them around." Wouldn't you know it, lots more people stuck around and made for a better community than the couple dicks that we lost.
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Sep 13, 2021 19:11
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Harrow posted:Yeah, sorry about the LongClown images. I don't think the first couple were reported (or if they were, I missed them) and I didn't see the reports on the last couple until they'd been up for a while screwing up the thread for everyone. I also forgot that I could edit out images in posts until it was pointed out to me, so sorry about that, too Do y'all need more mods to keep up with the queue? I absolutely do not want to moderate any part of this site and would refuse if asked, but if the moderation staff are being swamped maybe there should be a few more added so reports don't get buried so long they're stale by the time anyone gets to it.
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Sep 13, 2021 19:11
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Make Stux the IK of this thread
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Sep 13, 2021 19:17
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The Shortest Path posted:If the Stadia thread is in a state where Stux's shitposts are causing problems for it then it needs to be gassed immediately imo. In addition to his long-running bullshit in the Stadia thread, Stux has this tendency to just absolutely poo poo up whatever thread has his attention. It's not necessarily shitposting either - in the Switch and Xbox threads, Stux will roll in, smugly disagree with people about something in the most hostile manner possible, argue endlessly, and next thing you know the thread is about Stux until he fucks off. The guy is absolutely toxic in Games and I have no idea why a billion probes don't equal a ban at some point. He never learns anything from the probes, ever. He's just an rear end in a top hat for the sake of being an rear end in a top hat, he's open about this, and the mods don't give a poo poo. I don't know if they're tee-hee Discord pals with him or what but it's absolutely bizarre to see. As someone who has been on SA for entirely too long, it's the strangest thing to witness this level of accommodation for someone so dedicated to ruining discussion.
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Sep 13, 2021 19:38
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☝️ this☝️
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Sep 13, 2021 19:42
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TheScott2K posted:In addition to his long-running bullshit in the Stadia thread, Stux has this tendency to just absolutely poo poo up whatever thread has his attention. It's not necessarily shitposting either - in the Switch and Xbox threads, Stux will roll in, smugly disagree with people about something in the most hostile manner possible, argue endlessly, and next thing you know the thread is about Stux until he fucks off. If he's making GBS threads up actual discussion threads then yeah ramp his rear end.
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Sep 13, 2021 19:45
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describing the switch thread as an actual discussion thread is pretty generous
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Sep 13, 2021 19:46
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The Shortest Path posted:If he's making GBS threads up actual discussion threads then yeah ramp his rear end. There actually is pretty decent dunk-laden discussion about Stadia in the Stadia thread until Stux shows up and it becomes about Stux again. Everyone stop having fun because Stux wants to have fun, over and over.
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Sep 13, 2021 19:47
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TheScott2K posted:In addition to his long-running bullshit in the Stadia thread, Stux has this tendency to just absolutely poo poo up whatever thread has his attention. It's not necessarily shitposting either - in the Switch and Xbox threads, Stux will roll in, smugly disagree with people about something in the most hostile manner possible, argue endlessly, and next thing you know the thread is about Stux until he fucks off. T H I S
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Sep 13, 2021 19:47
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Andrast posted:describing the switch thread as an actual discussion thread is pretty generous
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TheScott2K posted:In addition to his long-running bullshit in the Stadia thread, Stux has this tendency to just absolutely poo poo up whatever thread has his attention. It's not necessarily shitposting either - in the Switch and Xbox threads, Stux will roll in, smugly disagree with people about something in the most hostile manner possible, argue endlessly, and next thing you know the thread is about Stux until he fucks off. Yeah pretty much. Look at his rap sheet. This is what he does. Probing him does nothing. Why is it still tolerated? Does the mod team WANT more work?
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Sep 13, 2021 19:49
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Nobody's ever like "man I miss fishmech" and it wasn't even years of terrible posting that did it in the end. The gently caress are the mods even for? Dispensing 6ers?
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Sep 13, 2021 19:50
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TheScott2K posted:As someone who has been on SA for entirely too long, it's the strangest thing to witness this level of accommodation for someone so dedicated to ruining discussion. That's the thing. Why would I use SA over reddit or somewhere else when the biggest draw (moderation) for SA isn't even a thing? If assholes are just going to run rampant and unrepentant and the leadership response is, say, "Arf is just doing Arf things." Then I may as well go do things elsewhere with more people because at least with a larger pool of people I'm more likely to find a group or a community I mesh with. Multiply this by every person that a troll trolls and suddenly you're losing good community members because you're protecting assholes until every thread is just Stux doing joker pictures at Arf who is calling Stux a slur and they're the only two posters' there.
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Sep 13, 2021 19:50
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Saxophone posted:That's the thing. Why would I use SA over reddit or somewhere else when the biggest draw (moderation) for SA isn't even a thing? If assholes are just going to run rampant and unrepentant and the leadership response is, say, "Arf is just doing Arf things." Then I may as well go do things elsewhere with more people because at least with a larger pool of people I'm more likely to find a group or a community I mesh with. 
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Sep 13, 2021 19:52
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Saxophone posted:That's the thing. Why would I use SA over reddit or somewhere else when the biggest draw (moderation) for SA isn't even a thing? If assholes are just going to run rampant and unrepentant and the leadership response is, say, "Arf is just doing Arf things." Then I may as well go do things elsewhere with more people because at least with a larger pool of people I'm more likely to find a group or a community I mesh with. Sounds to me like you should make a QCS thread about this very real and bad problem
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Sep 13, 2021 19:55
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multijoe posted:Sounds to me like you should make a QCS thread about this very real and bad problem How about shutting the gently caress up and letting people post feedback in the Games Feedback Thread
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Sep 13, 2021 19:56
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Infinitum posted:Hellbans were the old solution. Nah the old solution was straight-up bans. Once upon a time it'd only take a dozen probes or so before mods started banning the person just for being annoying The rapsheets of people who've been annoying since the 00s are always really funny because they get 10-20 probations, then several bans, then they stop posting until the mid-2010s, and then they come back and get two hundred more probations before they start getting banned again
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Sep 13, 2021 19:58
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TheScott2K posted:How about shutting the gently caress up and letting people post feedback in the Games Feedback Thread Whoa careful there, someone's liable to own you by posting a manga scan at you
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Sep 13, 2021 19:59
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I think if moderation within news/discussion threads was allowed to be more effective than an occasional 6er and only going past that mark at great length, they'd live and die as news/discussion threads but what's the point of talking about any news when it's gonna draw a flood of shitposts the moment it gets pushed back up the page? If you get rid of the shitposts and it dies for lack of activity, then it dies and that's the end of it, there's no real need to have ad-hoc janitors begging to gas threads for inactivity in a forum as popular as Games since any dying/dead thread will be buried pretty fast.
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Sep 13, 2021 19:59
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TheScott2K posted:How about shutting the gently caress up and letting people post feedback in the Games Feedback Thread Has Arf been trolling any Games threads? From here it seems some people just want a soapbox to call for the purge of their posting enemies, which is QCS's place
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Sep 13, 2021 19:59
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multijoe posted:Has Arf been trolling any Games threads? From here it seems some people just want a soapbox to call for the purge of their posting enemies, which is QCS's place Looks like "from here" is farther away than your prescription lets you see.
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Sep 13, 2021 20:00
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TheScott2K posted:smugly disagree with people about something in the most hostile manner possible, argue endlessly this describes half the switch thread lol TheScott2K posted:Looks like "from here" is farther away than your prescription lets you see. thank you for your feedback!
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Sep 13, 2021 20:05
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Stux is a mockthread.
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Sep 13, 2021 20:07
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TheScott2K posted:smugly disagree with people about something in the most hostile manner possible, argue endlessly, this is the something awful experience
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Sep 13, 2021 20:10
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yea that just kinda sounds like normal posting i agree that chat threads should be able to exist and have their own specific moderation that can resolve these issues more quickly, unfortunately that pattern has proven to be impossible in games
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Sep 13, 2021 20:13
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Honestly I think if you're indignantly calling for a guy to be banned and the worst thing you can point to is a linebreak image of the Joker I think you're being a huge bitch
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Sep 13, 2021 20:15
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having posting in/lurked some of the same threads as stux, i'd perhaps examine the situation that the baseline quality of discussion is generally so banal that any mildly inflammatory post instantly grabs all the attention. stux can be defeated in two clicks, you just have to have the courage to do so. "but people will still quote him!" unfortunate, scroll on by
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Sep 13, 2021 20:18
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multijoe posted:Has Arf been trolling any Games threads? From here it seems some people just want a soapbox to call for the purge of their posting enemies, which is QCS's place He was loving around in Blizzwatch when it was in Games. TheScott2K posted:In addition to his long-running bullshit in the Stadia thread, Stux has this tendency to just absolutely poo poo up whatever thread has his attention. It's not necessarily shitposting either - in the Switch and Xbox threads, Stux will roll in, smugly disagree with people about something in the most hostile manner possible, argue endlessly, and next thing you know the thread is about Stux until he fucks off. Also this is a good point
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We nearly lost this entire website because a cabal of posters became convinced that they could identify and eliminate a different cabal of wrong posters. The Stadia thread has been put on vacation multiple times because left to itself it turns rancid. I do not think that Stux should be driven off because long clowns interrupted the otherwise scintillating exchange of sick burns re: dumb things copied and pasted from Reddit.
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