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WarpedLichen posted:Goddamn I nearly rage quit the game after the last second fake out in the final realization. That is a total dick move to spend an hour just to see unavoidable death coming your way. The final card could've unlocked one scene earlier with absolutely no difference in gameplay. you have to have faith!
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GilliamYaeger posted:More than a good chance, since it's one of the main ways to defend against guns in-game. That said, guns are still very dangerous - even Colors like Kali can only deflect so many attacks before they start hitting them, and unlike swords guns don't require much training or augmentation to use. There's a very good reason why the Head puts so many restrictions on the things - they break the intended power curve of the City and allow the weak to take out the strong, even just through sheer force of numbers. Give some Rats a top quality blade and suit and they're still trash, but give them some AK-47s and they might be able to kill someone important before going down. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-SEMThCjUU
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I kinda hope one of the Limbus characters is Mars' mom or Finn's (I think) sister since we got to hear about how tough they are.Nea posted:I can't help but laugh at the person in the LP thread talking about how the city runs on cyberpunk logic and not anime logic. they have no idea how wrong that is. we haven't even gotten to 'one of the reasons people don't often use guns is because if you're going up against a pretty decent guy, not even the best guy, there's a good chance they might be able to deflect it with a sword' I had a laugh at the guy talking about 'how would an accountant rank up' when I thought of Life Insurance. 
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I think you guys could probably stand to keep it in your pants a bit more in the LP thread, tbh. 'Colours' as anything beyond a cool nickname Gebura used to have don't get mentioned until the Full-Stop reception and you're all going at it
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I could have sworn it came up in the LC artbook or DD but that might have been a fever dream.
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Finally done with the game. Last section was very difficult. Are there any cards that will actually beat a 40-50 summation attack? I haven't seen one yet. The more I play the game the more I think emotion levels are a bad mechanic as it currently is. A lot of fights are unrecoverable if the enemy is at high emotion and you start at zero. Likewise the light refill makes the combat pacing very awkward. You need to run a lot of light refill or else you get stuck doing nothing once you're at 5. Meanwhile early game, you just clash brainlessly with your best cards. At the same time, all the really powerful toys you get tend to cost 4+ light to play so they're just dead draws early on. 9 page deck is tiny too. All in all, still a pretty fun game.
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You can with enough power stacking. Particulakry with cards like rapid gashes or divinatory impact.
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ZeroCount posted:I think you guys could probably stand to keep it in your pants a bit more in the LP thread, tbh. 'Colours' as anything beyond a cool nickname Gebura used to have don't get mentioned until the Full-Stop reception and you're all going at it Hey I was careful to keep things within the region of "stuff we just learned from the yun's office reception and/or already knew from lobcorp" power level debate is eternal
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WarpedLichen posted:Finally done with the game. Last section was very difficult. Are there any cards that will actually beat a 40-50 summation attack? I haven't seen one yet. The 9 page cycling deck is one of Ruina's best points imo, it means decks are more about flowing well than the usual card game experience of "well you died, draw cards better next time" Yinlock fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Sep 12, 2021 |
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I think it's more that the rank of 'Colour' has not yet been clarified in setting (I don't think Gebs was referred to as such in LC, but I might remember wrong), so her whole title being like an administrative/organizational thing rather than just a badass nickname is the spoilery bit.
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Theantero posted:I think it's more that the rank of 'Colour' has not yet been clarified in setting (I don't think Gebs was referred to as such in LC, but I might remember wrong), so her whole title being like an administrative/organizational thing rather than just a badass nickname is the spoilery bit.
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Yinlock posted:The 9 page cycling deck is one of Ruina's best points imo, it means decks are more about flowing well than the usual card game experience of "well you died, draw cards better next time" That sorta still happens - I think the main thing is that it makes the slots you use for energy regen/card draw more obvious. I think the ideal in my head would've been smaller scale fights (3 vs 3) and everybody having the purple tear ability to switch decks for 0 light. Also get rid of assistant librarians and just let you pick a team of main characters.
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Theantero posted:I think it's more that the rank of 'Colour' has not yet been clarified in setting (I don't think Gebs was referred to as such in LC, but I might remember wrong), so her whole title being like an administrative/organizational thing rather than just a badass nickname is the spoilery bit. She was the red mist, but otherwise I think the closest we had were the "Fixer in X" white ordeals. I'm still a little sad they don't show up in Library of Ruina, but clearly Laserface Jim was just too strong and thus not allowed a boss fight.
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So I was looking up library departments out of curiosity because of the question in the main thread and...huh. The Library is structured on the Dewey Decimal system.LukasR23 posted:She was the red mist, but otherwise I think the closest we had were the "Fixer in X" white ordeals. quote:1: Hey. GilliamYaeger fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Sep 12, 2021 |
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GilliamYaeger posted:So I was looking up library departments out of curiosity because of the question in the main thread and...huh. The Library is structured on the Dewey Decimal system. That's really cool. They're even in the same order, if you just look at upper/middle/lower! ...why is computer science under 000 and not under technology or science.
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Qrr posted:That's really cool. They're even in the same order, if you just look at upper/middle/lower!
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Urban Nightmare deck building questions. I just got Kim's page which seems very powerful for a slash deck. So far I've beaten the sweepers and barely beat the index, so I've put together a singleton pierce deck which seems to be working ok. Any suggestions for a slash deck for Kim, or any other powerful things to try? I'm definitely starting to struggle.
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Razakai posted:Urban Nightmare deck building questions. Things I find work really well in Urban Nightmare: Singleton Sweeper - get a speed dice onto the Sweepers, then run all a full sweeper team. Kinda just rolls over everything because your healing outpaces the damage. Just pile in on one guy and the heal on kill will top you off. I think a slash deck doesn't work out too great until you get the Shi association cards. Dante's stuff is ok but you're really missing draw until you can get To Overcome Crisis. Whereas you get everything you need for sweepers from their one fight and it carries you till Star of the City no problem. The other really strong thing in Urban Nightmare is to do the 3rd branch first and go all in on blunt. But full sweeper is the easiest.
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Razakai posted:Urban Nightmare deck building questions. One thing to note about Kim is that their signature page is really cool and also very much a trap. It requires you lose a clash as Kim with a single dice page, which is... not common, and if you do manage it you're probably getting very badly hurt. There are a lot of good slash cards, you don't need to only use single die ones, +2 power is already a ton. Crack of Dawn is nice for a while, as an example.
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Razakai posted:Urban Nightmare deck building questions.
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GilliamYaeger posted:Attach Sayo's page and a bunch of other bleed infliction passives then run 3xDraw of the Sword, 3xFlash of Sunup and 3xSharpened Blade. That seems bad to me because sharpened blade kinda doesn't win clashes unless you stack two of them. Like if you're not playing double Slay is better and it's still not that great. Even a single buffed flash of sunup is a 3-7 roll that's an average Urban Nightmare card before buffs.
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WarpedLichen posted:That seems bad to me because sharpened blade kinda doesn't win clashes unless you stack two of them. Like if you're not playing double Slay is better and it's still not that great. Even a single buffed flash of sunup is a 3-7 roll that's an average Urban Nightmare card before buffs. GilliamYaeger fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Sep 13, 2021 |
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So I'm stuck in SOTC. I'm at 47/48 Abnos only available one is price of silence...fuuuuck price of silence and have completed the 1st, 2nd, and 4th columns. Xiao stage 2 is kicking my rear end, I can't seem to beat her. Do people try with the first floors that have ego, or the Geb/Binah floors with the powerful librarians So, could I please have some advice on the two fights mentioned above. Also, I think this game would be dramatically improved without the book burning mechanic. It's ludicrously frustrating to beat a difficult slog fight like Purple, only get 4 books, and not get the character book. I wish the character books were guaranteed
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IAmThatIs posted:So I'm stuck in SOTC. I'm at 47/48 Abnos only available one is price of silence...fuuuuck price of silence and have completed the 1st, 2nd, and 4th columns. Xiao stage 2 is kicking my rear end, I can't seem to beat her. Do people try with the first floors that have ego, or the Geb/Binah floors with the powerful librarians GilliamYaeger fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Sep 13, 2021 |
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The Myongest Yesod is really good at book grinding. Request marks the target and killing them with the one holding the Abnormality pages doubles the book drop and Myongest is such a force to be reckoned with. The only downside is that he kills the enemy too fast, so I have to deliberately hold myself back. The only other option for book grinding is Hokma. More specifically, WhiteNight Tier III card. That is obtained just before the endgame. Okay...
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IAmThatIs posted:So I'm stuck in SOTC. I'm at 47/48 Abnos only available one is price of silence...fuuuuck price of silence and have completed the 1st, 2nd, and 4th columns. Xiao stage 2 is kicking my rear end, I can't seem to beat her. Do people try with the first floors that have ego, or the Geb/Binah floors with the powerful librarians Do you have PT? The easiest way to beat Xiao is to take the Smiling Face (I forget which) that has +Stagger from Smoke (Sooty Thwack I think?) and give everyone some Inhale Smoke and Great Serpent's Impacts. Put them on Yesod's floor with Concussion (+blunt stagger), puppet skeleton, battle ready and so on then use Great Serpent's Impact and cards with the strongest blunt dice you have (I think Wrath of Torment and Steel Knuckles are the most efficient?) and Regret to burn through stagger.
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WarpedLichen posted:Finally done with the game. Last section was very difficult. Are there any cards that will actually beat a 40-50 summation attack? I haven't seen one yet. Divinatory Impact is a 30-47, so with some power boosting you'd have decent odds of blocking with that. Next best are probably Rapid Gashes and Blind Faith, which are both 18-29, although Rapid Gashes scales better with power. Some EGO pages like Logging(25-36, x4 strength multiplier) also work. The key though is doing power stacking stuff, like Augury Kick Mirinae and abnormality pages like Pulsation or Loyalty. With like +10 strength you could block it with Focused Strikes.
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I'm at the Keter Realization and I am seeing what people are saying about the end game just going on and on. The Ensemble fight was fun -- the only one that gave me real trouble was Hokma's floor, where I had to cheese it with Damage On Clash cards, while the rest was mostly getting totally dunked on by accident when fights would change phases and I'd end up with just a full team of completely unequipped librarians. To be honest I just want to go back and burn a few books because I am realizing that I'm missing a few key ones after
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Malkuth realization: I thought I figured out what was going on, ok this is just a boss rush, queen is down which is good cause I'm barely alive! Then the final phase starts. Was not expecting that.
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The day the first realization showed up in early access was full of surprises for everyone
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I'd like to correct an above poster, it's very very important to run Kim's signature card and lose with it a lot, because that's how you get his bamboo hat and it is siiiiiiiiick.
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GilliamYaeger posted:Xiao is probably the hardest fight in the game. Ok, that makes me feel better haha I'll try out y'alls strategies, I've apparently been underappreciating Yesod! And genius!! I've never used the auto battle feature, so I never would have thought of that
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lets hang out posted:The day the first realization showed up in early access was full of surprises for everyone It was so fun. Can't wait for Limbus fridays 
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Quick Lobotomy Corporation question: how much do I need to worry about dragging days out to grind stats? I just wrapped up day 5 and I could see this being important long-term if the balance is really tight, but also it is insanely boring and doesn't seem necessary so far.
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Towards the end I stopped even bothering to block mass attacks beyond a token effort because the numbers get so dumb that there's no pointRoboCicero posted:I'm at the Keter Realization and I am seeing what people are saying about the end game just going on and on. The Ensemble fight was fun -- the only one that gave me real trouble was Hokma's floor, where I had to cheese it with Damage On Clash cards, while the rest was mostly getting totally dunked on by accident when fights would change phases and I'd end up with just a full team of completely unequipped librarians. To be honest I just want to go back and burn a few books because I am realizing that I'm missing a few key ones after Sadly you cannot burn books again until you've beaten the game and there's no longer a point to doing so The good news is your pages won't be limited ever again and the Realization gives you checkpoints between each fight so you can lose and rearrange decks as much as you want(though they also use this as an excuse to boil a couple fights down to "hope you rolled high lol")
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IAmThatIs posted:Ok, that makes me feel better haha I'll try out y'alls strategies, I've apparently been underappreciating Yesod! Another Xiao Protip: when starting the 2nd phase use a fresh floor since her emotion will be low and you can slowly build up, when team 2 burns to death switch to your already-emotional round 1 team and finish the boss. I typically use Gebura for round 1 and Binah to weaken her, then back to Gebura for the finisher. It's never pretty but you can beat her fairly consistently this way without much super-specific strategy. Also Binah has that abno page that makes someone immune to burn which makes that librarian almost immortal until everyone else dies and Xiao can focus on them, a lot of her damage is tied up in her ridiculous burn-stacking Weirdly enough I find part 1 of that fight to be almost as difficult, the team-up card and how fast they gain emotion always leaves my round 1 floor in absolute shambles by the end, but i'm also bad so Irony.or.Death posted:Quick Lobotomy Corporation question: how much do I need to worry about dragging days out to grind stats? I just wrapped up day 5 and I could see this being important long-term if the balance is really tight, but also it is insanely boring and doesn't seem necessary so far. The final days(and super-bosses) will run a lot smoother the more maxed-out folks you have, but you don't have to do it super-early. You'll eventually get abnormalities that will rocket up one stat or other and fully training someone barely takes any time at all. It's worth taking an extra meltdown or two to buff your agents up early on but you shouldn't really go nuts about it until you unlock Training's stuff which speeds up the process by a ton e: minimum-wise all you really need is enough super-agents to hold all your Aleph and good WAW gear, everyone else is just +1 deathball power or a spare hand to work a meltdown when poo poo is going down(which is very helpful but not entirely necessary) Yinlock fucked around with this message at 10:03 on Sep 14, 2021 |
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don't believe any slander about kims exclusive card. either it wins, and its kim so it probably just wins, or you get to use the coolest* card in the game * id also accept boundary of death
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Varinn posted:don't believe any slander about kims exclusive card. either it wins, and its kim so it probably just wins, or you get to use the coolest* card in the game boundary of death is only for the most skilled card game warriors
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Finished the Keter Realization, finally. Thank you for all the help! I think I'm just about burnt out though, so I'm going to read the wikipedia (and TeeQueue LP!) for the plot of any remaining fights. It's really cool that you get Pluto's contracts from his keypage, but the fact that they can activate automatically if you're not careful and that the penalties are just as steep as during his Ensemble fight just makes it not worth it. So, for some endgame plot clarification -- it turns out that Carmen and her plan for the light was that every person could Distortion-fy themselves at will with the reasoning that if this happens, no one will be able to be more powerful than anyone else (because everyone will have ~distortion powers~). Ultimately though, Angela rejects this and returns the Light that the library has been collecting via un-booking everyone, and almost fades away in the process (because she's constructed out of Light?) before Roland stops her from going through with it. Did I understand that right? also god bless Ultra Instinct Binah for carrying half of these fights.
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RoboCicero posted:Finished the Keter Realization, finally. Thank you for all the help! I think I'm just about burnt out though, so I'm going to read the wikipedia (and TeeQueue LP!) for the plot of any remaining fights. It's really cool that you get Pluto's contracts from his keypage, but the fact that they can activate automatically if you're not careful and that the penalties are just as steep as during his Ensemble fight just makes it not worth it. Regarding Carmen's plan...The heavy implication that I gathered is that Angela's interference caused her to Distort. Her original plan was almost certainly to either give everyone EGO like Kali, Xiao and Moses, or just give everyone empathy again like you see with all the Guests (who were explicitly affected by the Light the most deeply out of everyone) but Angela's coup at the end of LC drove her insane. What she's doing now runs counter to everything we saw out of her in flashbacks. Could you imagine Light!Carmen freaking out like the original Carmen did after being accused by Tiphereth? GilliamYaeger fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Sep 14, 2021 |
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