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So, I did a respec of the MC well into Act 3 I think, I'm Angel mythic path and so far nothing seems to be broken (well, outside the generic bugs). Am I in the clear or will I be boned in the next acts?
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Sep 14, 2021 21:32
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canepazzo posted:So, I did a respec of the MC well into Act 3 I think, I'm Angel mythic path and so far nothing seems to be broken (well, outside the generic bugs). Am I in the clear or will I be boned in the next acts? The devs said the bug mostly hits Demon and Lich players, so, while there's a chance your save is borked, the odds are on your side, though there's no real way to tell short of playing until you hit a either hit a dead end or win (if you're still in the first part of Act 4, there's currently a dead end either way, but I assume a hotfix is incoming for that one).
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Sep 14, 2021 21:42
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Wow, the Radiance upgrade to +4 is bonkers. They really make it feel like the Angel path is the canon story despite all their constant "no choice is the wrong choice"
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Sep 14, 2021 21:43
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Most pathsfeel that way tbh. For as many bugs and issue as the game has they absolutely did not skimp on reactivity or on packing in dozens of cool unique things for each Mythic Path.
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Sep 14, 2021 21:45
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pentyne posted:Wow, the Radiance upgrade to +4 is bonkers. They really make it feel like the Angel path is the canon story despite all their constant "no choice is the wrong choice" If you're talking about the upgrade at the end of Act 3, don't all paths get that upgrade (or a separate one if they so choose)? At the very least I don't recall any innate advantages Angel gets with Radiance.
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Sep 14, 2021 21:46
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Yeah, Radiance isn't Angel-specific.
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Sep 14, 2021 21:50
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What about aeon is bugged in crusade mode? I know bane is hosed up rn but I remember someone mentioned a crusade bug too
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Sep 14, 2021 21:54
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pentyne posted:Wow, the Radiance upgrade to +4 is bonkers. They really make it feel like the Angel path is the canon story despite all their constant "no choice is the wrong choice" It's just a little something something for Seelah. Now, the Baptized in Yaniel's blood upgrade, that is a nice surprise gift. 
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Sep 14, 2021 21:56
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pentyne posted:Wow, the Radiance upgrade to +4 is bonkers. They really make it feel like the Angel path is the canon story despite all their constant "no choice is the wrong choice" To be honest, I feel the opposite. A) Radiance isn't Angel specific B) Having seen both Angel and Azata, Angel's reactivity is overall pretty piddling compared to Azata. Azata is way, way more fleshed out. You'd expect otherwise given that Angel is one of the cover boys but yeah, the other cover boy (Lich) isn't doing so hot either soooo
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Sep 14, 2021 22:12
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New patch seems to have broken monster tooltips, they don't show up for me anymore hovering in RTWP; they show up if I hover on portrait in turn-based.
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Sep 14, 2021 22:15
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ZypherIM posted:
Wait? Where is this explained. I've just rolled up a ES and right at the start of the game. Can't see it anywhere.
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Sep 14, 2021 22:15
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Deptfordx posted:Wait? Pretty sure that mechanic is in tabletop but not implemented in either Kingmaker or Wrath.
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Sep 14, 2021 22:16
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Does life link work yet?
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Sep 14, 2021 22:22
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Deptfordx posted:Wait? That's not in the crpg at all. I have a 13 ES doing everything fine.
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Sep 14, 2021 22:37
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Cool. Just out of curiosity, what bloodline are you using. I went for Arcane.
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Sep 14, 2021 22:40
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Deptfordx posted:Wait? Looks like they just didn't include that I guess, which is fine because anytime it'd come up before level 8 you'd be wanting to use that pool point anyways. It'd be worth checking to see if metamagic works the way its supposed to or if they buffed it as well, that was always the real reason that archetype was so bad (PF normal rules is applying metamagic to a spontaneous standard cast time spell turns it into a full round action).
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Sep 14, 2021 22:52
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Mister Olympus posted:What about aeon is bugged in crusade mode? I know bane is hosed up rn but I remember someone mentioned a crusade bug too The don't get any crusade unique units, buildings, or battle skills. They get the map rituals at least.
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Sep 14, 2021 22:55
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Mister Olympus posted:What about aeon is bugged in crusade mode? I know bane is hosed up rn but I remember someone mentioned a crusade bug too The mission that is supposed to unlock some stuff for them never triggers. You can see the card for it I’m the crusade management stuff and it just says you should go back and rest in your room, but nothing happens.
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Sep 14, 2021 22:57
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im honestly confused at these Seelah guides I see out there that are looking into "salvaging" her https://www.neoseeker.com/pathfinder-wrath-of-the-righteous/builds/Seelah how the gently caress changing her to Bard/Skald works? Do you just abandon the frontline/shield aspect of her and put her in mithril so her spells don't gently caress up? I'm asking because I'm gonna start playing Core and know I have to optimize things better a bit but at this point might as well hire a loving merc lol
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Sep 14, 2021 23:00
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Ethiser posted:The mission that is supposed to unlock some stuff for them never triggers. You can see the card for it I’m the crusade management stuff and it just says you should go back and rest in your room, but nothing happens. oof. is this the case for trickster too? i've basically heard something like this for everything besides angel/demon lol frajaq posted:im honestly confused at these Seelah guides I see out there that are looking into "salvaging" her the inEffect guides are built primarily for Unfair difficulty, where you need to stack every single type of bonus you possibly can to be able to hit AC on anything but a nat 20. In this context, the fact that the party doesn't have a bard to start with like Linzi in Kingmaker, means that someone needs to be made into one in order to get that competence bonus to whatever you need. Lower difficulties than the absolute worst are challenging, and having a hyper-optimized party will help but not total make-or-break like that. Unfair itself is also reportedly broken in a lot of ways too, so like don't stress Mister Olympus fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Sep 14, 2021 |
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Sep 14, 2021 23:03
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frajaq posted:im honestly confused at these Seelah guides I see out there that are looking into "salvaging" her Nah, you keep the frontline/shield. Its not like Bard is any less tanky than Paladin and Bards specifically get an exception to ignore arcane spellcasting failure chance with shields plus they ignore arcane spell failure with light armor anyways. Just keep her in that or mage armor until you find some decent Mithril breastplate and you're set. Her dex is decent enough that heavy armor is usually a waste even going full Paladin. I definitely vouch for the Bard build as its what I did and having a buffbot that eventually went all in on TWF with Radiance and a big shield ruled. You also only need to use builds like that on Unfair. He's deliberately building all the companions in a way to stack as many bonuses as possible. Bards are basically necessary for this because few things overlap with Inspire Courage and Seelah is the only companion who isn't really gimped if you go Bard with her. Zore fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Sep 14, 2021 |
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Sep 14, 2021 23:04
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frajaq posted:im honestly confused at these Seelah guides I see out there that are looking into "salvaging" her I followed that guide and I'm playing on core. I don't think the point is to "salvage" her. I think the point is that you need a bard. The guides on that site suck because they explain none of their reasoning for their choices. But if you want a bard and don't want to hire mercs then yeah Seelah seems like the best choice.
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Sep 14, 2021 23:13
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Can confirm, Bard Seelah sacrifices nothing in tankiness and gains a ton of party support. Pure class Paladin is kinda bad and wasteful, even in Wrath.
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Sep 14, 2021 23:16
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Kobal2 posted:Trip report : charges still get randomly eaten post patch that fixes charges getting eaten randomly. Yeah I have no idea how its implemented mechanically. When it goes off properly its glorious. Spirited charge works sometimes and others not. Sometimes works for multiple attacks in a row. Unsure why https://imgur.com/a/5VMFRKG I'm almost certain these were in one round. This is at level 3 at Market Square, as satisfying as this game gets imo when it works but theres other times my char will charge into melee then no attacks will trigger for the round. I think it may be to do with initiative? Like it gets interrupted.
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Sep 14, 2021 23:16
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really wishing i hadn't forgotten to bring radiance again also where the fuk is nenio in drezen? I can't find her anywhere
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Sep 14, 2021 23:21
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Tabletops posted:really wishing i hadn't forgotten to bring radiance again She's upstairs in the Inn. Which is a different building than the tavern and seems to basically exist to hide her and Hulrun and make them as hard to find as possible.
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Sep 14, 2021 23:22
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Zore posted:She's upstairs in the Inn. Which is a different building than the tavern and seems to basically exist to hide her and Hulrun and make them as hard to find as possible. ty!
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Sep 14, 2021 23:30
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oh my god y'all are right I feel so dumb, I thought bards/skalds had to use mithril stuff but they can use medium armor AND shield with no arcane failure? I feel like my main character should be one goddamn
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Sep 14, 2021 23:36
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Bards and Skalds are both Very Good.
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Sep 14, 2021 23:37
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I got to level 11 with my Warpriest before I realized I could use fervor to swift cast buffs on myself. I am not a smart man.
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Sep 14, 2021 23:41
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Captain Oblivious posted:Bards and Skalds are both Very Good. kinda curious what's the use for Mithril gear then?
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Sep 14, 2021 23:49
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frajaq posted:im honestly confused at these Seelah guides I see out there that are looking into "salvaging" her Heavy armor is inferior to DEX AC bonus + light armor/Mage Armor + buff stacking in 3.5 and Pathfinder Melee bards are preferred because can still become omega tanky and need to be in range of the enemy to get their most useful song off. Dirge of Doom causes every enemy that isn't immune to become permanently Shaken also it doesn't have any saves so immunity is the only way to block it. The Shaken status is why so many builds go for Dazzling Display into Shattered Defenses. Dazzling is a worthless prereq and bad action economy, but Shattered Defenses allows you to roll against flat-flooted AC against anything that's shaken, frightened, or panicked.
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Sep 14, 2021 23:50
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So I´ve been playing as a twohander Bloodrager with the Arcane bloodline due to it´s "Fire and Forget" nature and it seems to work just fine. I´m just curious about what kind of feats I should work towards for a build like this? Should I focus on stuff like the Cornugon Smash line or perhaps Critical strikes?
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Sep 14, 2021 23:50
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frajaq posted:kinda curious what's the use for Mithril gear then? It's lighter, which lets puny elves wear heavier armour without getting encumbered. Also the armor check penalty is smaller and the dex allowance is better (ex a chain shirt is max dex 4, a mithral CS is max dex 6). In PnP it also makes armour one category lighter (so full plate becomes medium armor, breastplate becomes light armor - you still have to have the correct feat to wear it but it doesn't slow you down as much) but I'm not sure if that's in the game. EDIT : Oh, and the arcane spell failure is better too - bards and maguseses don't care about that poo poo, but real wizards or Eldritch Rogues do.
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Sep 14, 2021 23:57
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Kobal2 posted:In PnP it also makes armour one category lighter (so full plate becomes medium armor, breastplate becomes light armor - you still have to have the correct feat to wear it but it doesn't slow you down as much) but I'm not sure if that's in the game. It is, which is handy for someone whose class abilities key off of wearing light armour even if they have the proficiency for more.
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Sep 15, 2021 00:04
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Mythic rank 4-5 or higher for second bloodline is obscene. For sorcerer's its just pick any three spells from the entire spell list 1-9 if you're already casting 9th level spells. Finally hit Act 4. Got to same it was probably 35-40 hours to beat act 3 but what felt like a huge chunk of that was Crusade army management and in future play-throughs I will absolutely cheat in a unlimited movement army to clear the map piecemeal as I play. It's been a bit fun after getting over the initial hurdle from Act 2 but for Lich especially it's just a ton of micromanaging units all over the map.
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Sep 15, 2021 00:09
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Are there any good fauchards in this game or is it glaives all the way for reach weapons
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Sep 15, 2021 00:09
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Kobal2 posted:It's lighter, which lets puny elves wear heavier armour without getting encumbered. Also the armor check penalty is smaller and the dex allowance is better (ex a chain shirt is max dex 4, a mithral CS is max dex 6). The Eldritch Scoundrel archetype actually loses the Rogue's armor proficiency, so unless you spend a feat on it, you technically don't need to worry about the AFC of armors. If you don't mind spending the Mythic pick on it, Archmage Armor can get a spellcaster way more AC than any other option, and it's especially useful on characters like Woljif, who actually want to be in melee combat. Personally, I'm also in favor of giving Woljif both levels of Enduring Spells so he can have Shield up 24/7, as well.
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Sep 15, 2021 00:10
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Mister Olympus posted:oof. is this the case for trickster too? i've basically heard something like this for everything besides angel/demon lol Trickster is supposedly fine in crusade mode. In fact Trickster seems to be one of the least buggy mythic paths right now. From my understanding, in terms of bugginess, Angel, Trickster and Azata are largely fine, Lich and Aeon have crusade issues and Demon has problems in Act 5. The extra paths, Legend is perfectly fine, Gold Dragon has some pretty bad issues and Swarm is absolutely hosed.
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Whelp can't progress from act 4, the cutscene isn't triggering. Guess I'll have a look at Kingmaker instead.
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