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Has anyone done a wargame that covers the Battle of the Scheldt? It seems like an interesting fight, and historically important, and includes a lot of amphibious mucking around.
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Yep. Guess who https://johntillersoftware.com/PanzerCampaigns/Scheldt44.html
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Sep 15, 2021 05:25
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John Tiller rocks. He put one out about Operation Sealion! Not a scenario or two, a whole drat product dedicated to the "what if" campaign. Mad respect for that guy (rip).
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Sep 15, 2021 07:10
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Randomcheese3 posted:This isn't quite true for the British, who did carry out a fairly major tonnage war with their subs in the Mediterranean. It wasn't on the same scale as the American or German ones, sure, but it could still be represented well, especially since it offers options for secondary tasks like landing SOE saboteurs or shelling coastal targets. They also participated in the Pacific sub campaign, as did the Dutch who are rarely represented either. I'm interested in this - what kind of coastal target can you usefully shell with a submarine's deck gun?
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Sep 15, 2021 09:21
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Gort posted:I'm interested in this - what kind of coastal target can you usefully shell with a submarine's deck gun? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_M-class_submarine Anachronisms aside: the same sort of things you target with bombers. Stuff that just can't affordably be hardened against attack.
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Sep 15, 2021 09:26
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Gort posted:I'm interested in this - what kind of coastal target can you usefully shell with a submarine's deck gun? The Japanese ineffectually bombarded an oil refinery in California with a submarine deck gun in 1942. It didn't do much of any damage, but contributed to the prevailing sense of general hysteria.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardment_of_Ellwood
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Sep 15, 2021 11:51
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ZombieLenin posted:Right, and I think you have hit on exactly why Silent Hunter 4 added German Pacific U-boats rather than IJN submarines. But these are video games. Just grab submarines, produced and prototypes, put them out on sea and give them a procedurally generated campaign about sinking poo poo. It reminds me of when I played men of war and pubbies would completely FREAK OUT if they saw me hosting a USA Vs UK match. No no no, we have to play Soviets vs Germans until out bodies turn cold!
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Sep 15, 2021 13:23
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I think there are people who like smashing their army mans together and that there are people who like their army mans to be historically accurate recreations. But the group of people who care very much that the army mans are historically accurate but that the smashing up of them is not accurate tends to be a thinner sliver of the Venn diagram.
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Sep 15, 2021 13:35
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Awesome, thanks!
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Sep 15, 2021 15:30
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Pirate Radar posted:Has anyone done a wargame that covers the Battle of the Scheldt? It seems like an interesting fight, and historically important, and includes a lot of amphibious mucking around. Unity of Command II has the Scheldt as a scenario for the Allied campaign. Well, unless you already clear it out in the earlier Advance on Antwerp scenario, where it's a secondary target. Or unless you sucessfully take and hold Arnhem during Market Garden and switch the campaign to the ahistoric track.
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Sep 15, 2021 22:42
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Pirate Radar posted:Has anyone done a wargame that covers the Battle of the Scheldt? It seems like an interesting fight, and historically important, and includes a lot of amphibious mucking around. 
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Sep 15, 2021 23:09
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Gort posted:I'm interested in this - what kind of coastal target can you usefully shell with a submarine's deck gun? British subs in the Med spent a lot of time shelling railways on the Italian coast, hitting trains, bridges and the like. habituallyred posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_M-class_submarine The M Class weren't built to shell land targets, they were built to hit ships with something that was hopefully more accurate than a torpedo.
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Sep 15, 2021 23:52
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Thank God I'll be dead before we get to this.
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Sep 16, 2021 02:34
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does ASL ever get into hypothetical / fictional engagements? something like "what if Operation Jupiter was real" or "Unthinkable kicks off at the Elbe"?
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Sep 16, 2021 02:52
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gradenko_2000 posted:does ASL ever get into hypothetical / fictional engagements? something like "what if Operation Jupiter was real" or "Unthinkable kicks off at the Elbe"? Yeah there's fictional ASL scenarios.
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Sep 16, 2021 03:14
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gradenko_2000 posted:does ASL ever get into hypothetical / fictional engagements? something like "what if Operation Jupiter was real" or "Unthinkable kicks off at the Elbe"? There are zombie ASL scenarios, yes. Also plenty of scenarios that are inspired or ripped whole cloth from movies.
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Sep 16, 2021 03:23
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So Radio Commander is on sale for $1.99 on steam, if anyone was holding out…
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Sep 16, 2021 19:52
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My current challenge in Sprocket is making myself a viable light tank. I've managed to get down to a 10t 2-man machine with a 43mm cannon, but beyond that I can't seem to get myself something resembling the Model1/FT-17. I suspect it might be something to do with the size of the cannon.  Also, bonus garbage tank 
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Sep 16, 2021 22:32
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Can you make open turret tanks in Sprocket? Your garbage tank looks basically like a Marder II.
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Sep 16, 2021 23:50
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TacticalNecromancy posted:My current challenge in Sprocket is making myself a viable light tank. I've managed to get down to a 10t 2-man machine with a 43mm cannon, but beyond that I can't seem to get myself something resembling the Model1/FT-17. I suspect it might be something to do with the size of the cannon. How does Sprocket determine a good or bad tank? Is it just a pure sandbox or can you like, test it or make it duel with other tanks?
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Sep 17, 2021 00:10
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TacticalNecromancy posted:My current challenge in Sprocket is making myself a viable light tank. I've managed to get down to a 10t 2-man machine with a 43mm cannon, but beyond that I can't seem to get myself something resembling the Model1/FT-17. I suspect it might be something to do with the size of the cannon. Probably is, given the FT-17 had a 37mm stub howitzer or a 13.2mm HMG depending on version.
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Sep 17, 2021 03:22
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skooma512 posted:How does Sprocket determine a good or bad tank? Is it just a pure sandbox or can you like, test it or make it duel with other tanks? Both. It has 8 missions that you can test your tank in with a few restrictions on engine power and stuff. Currently you will face 60% historical tanks and a bunch of fake historical tanks. You can edit the mission files to load tanks that you design, though I suppose that will eventually be added as an official feature.
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Sep 17, 2021 17:28
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MrYenko posted:So Radio Commander is on sale for $1.99 on steam, if anyone was holding out… Are there portions of the game where your radio stops working for no reason and you have to yell at your XO and comms dude to refill the radio but then they inform you that the SKL dropped commsec and they need to go to BN to go get commsec so basically you're sitting there with no ability to talk to anyone
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Sep 17, 2021 18:16
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Ashmole posted:Are there portions of the game where your radio stops working for no reason and you have to yell at your XO and comms dude to refill the radio but then they inform you that the SKL dropped commsec and they need to go to BN to go get commsec so basically you're sitting there with no ability to talk to anyone I don’t know, I don’t have it. 
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skooma512 posted:How does Sprocket determine a good or bad tank? Is it just a pure sandbox or can you like, test it or make it duel with other tanks? There's a series of missions currently in-game with broad dates from 1918 to 1945, and the amount of stuff and weight you can put on your monstrosity depends on the era. Generally there's a few objectives from 'kill the arty', 'escape' and my favourite 'Kill that hull down King Tiger with a lower tech base'. Each scenario also has a weight limit, but if you have a tank substantially below that limit, you'll get extra vehicles. There is of course a difference between 'successful' and 'good'.  
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Sep 17, 2021 19:58
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MrYenko posted:So Radio Commander is on sale for $1.99 on steam, if anyone was holding out… Is it any good?
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TacticalNecromancy posted:There's a series of missions currently in-game with broad dates from 1918 to 1945, and the amount of stuff and weight you can put on your monstrosity depends on the era. Generally there's a few objectives from 'kill the arty', 'escape' and my favourite 'Kill that hull down King Tiger with a lower tech base'. Gonk Droids are not tanks
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Sep 17, 2021 23:46
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New patch for Ultimate Dreadnaughts dropped. It uh, it resets your mission progress.
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Sep 18, 2021 00:07
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Thanks for the sub sim suggestions - I was contemplating throwing Silent Service 2 or something similar up on my MiSTer since I've been playing with the ao486 core a ton but then discovered today that Cold Waters is on sale so that's an easy purchase there.
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Cold Waters is fantastic. If you're interested in modding or playing as the Soviets check out the Epic Mod it adds a ton to the game but the base game itself is a lot of fun.
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Popete posted:Cold Waters is fantastic. If you're interested in modding or playing as the Soviets check out the Epic Mod it adds a ton to the game but the base game itself is a lot of fun. Throwing an Alfa class submarine around at 41 knots was one of the best experiences I ever had with Cold Waters . It's such a monstrously fun boat to play around with even if not as stealthy as some others.
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Alchenar posted:New patch for Ultimate Dreadnaughts dropped. Replayability!
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More of a warning so people don't get surprised - the changes they've made mean the scenarios play differently (even Virginia vs Monitor is now a very different fight) and the whole point of the game in its early access state is to let you much about with the ship builder. e: they have also massively improved framerates in the ship builder
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Gonk Droids are not tanks They were neither sucessful nor good tanks, no.
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Sep 18, 2021 17:25
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Are any of these sub games as fun as the old as poo poo 688 Attack Sub? I played that as a kid and loved it, it wasn't very sweaty, but it just did everything right so that it was fun.
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Philthy posted:Are any of these sub games as fun as the old as poo poo 688 Attack Sub? I played that as a kid and loved it, it wasn't very sweaty, but it just did everything right so that it was fun. Cold Waters is very similar to Red Storm Rising
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688 was great in how the atmosphere differed on the US and Soviet sub. Russian UI had everything labelled in real cyrillic Russian, so e.g. ТОРПЕДА rather than TOЯPЗDOS. Now for a teen myself this was a bit too much, I could barely understand the English interface of the American sub. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhye7IZ7pS0
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Sep 18, 2021 19:20
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Real sub-heads will remember SILENT STEEL
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Sep 18, 2021 19:27
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gradenko_2000 posted:Real sub-heads will remember SILENT STEEL That LP still gives me PTSD.
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Played the tutorials of Cold Waters last night, seemed straightforward enough, think I've got a good handle on doing TMA on and sinking some merchant ships, cool. Start the first level of the first campaign this morning "Hey sink this enemy sub gogogo". Don't feel trained for this at all but sure okay, get to the mission and get started after poking around the helpfile for the campaign map. Two contacts almost immediately detect me and I have torps incoming. Manage to very nervously go under them, but feel like a badass for doing so. Lost track of whatever the second contact was but the first contact which I'm guessing is my primary target, an enemy sub full of commandos, is circling me like a drat shark and launching more torpedos. I go silent and try and circle behind it, coming up to speed as I get a good firing solution going but am too slow and clumsy at the controls to get a shot away. Moments later I realise I'm in deep poo poo - I'm losing contact with the enemy sub and one of their torpedos has found me and is rapidly approaching. I figure I'm about to get hit and possibly sunk. Moments later, the enemy torpedo detonates... because I have somehow completely inadvertently managed to place the enemy sub between me and the incoming torpedo. They are instantly sunk and I have successfully completed my first mission without firing a shot. Fun game!
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