|
There is a theory in that twitch chat that your choices don't matter, but your teammates' do
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:27
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 27, 2024 07:35 |
|
|
Okay yeah I can confirm it's real too. What the gently caress Toby!?
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:28
|
|
|
Flesnolk posted:Stupid question maybe but does it matter if you've been killing everything up to the trash zone? I'd assume so. if I'm not mistaken, you only have to start worrying about it once you land in the trash zone / recruit Noelle; specifically, there's one boss before that you CAN'T kill
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:29
|
|
|
I feel compelled to try this out but I'm not totally sure I have the heart to
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:29
|
|
|
I can't believe the berdly loving dies guy was right.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:30
|
|
|
Oxyclean posted:Pressuring the most innocent character into murder is probably the best knife-twist to do a bad route. except it also makes sense within the story as this chapter is all about Noelle and how she has trouble standing up for herself and saying no. There's the Queen/Noelle's mom parallel in the regular route of course, but in this one she's doing what Kris is telling her (under the guise of making her "stronger") and it's pretty heartbreaking.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:33
|
|
|
Flesnolk posted:I feel compelled to try this out but I'm not totally sure I have the heart to One of the requirements seems to be getting Noelle to lose interest in Susie which is honestly the most hosed up part in this whole thing and something I could never do to Susie.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:35
|
|
|
The best thing about this alternate path is that it's very quick to check and see if it's real (I was wondering why Noelle wonders why you're going backwards but then doesn't stop you if you keep trying). I'm currently playing it myself and the moment I saw "Noelle became stronger", I knew it wasn't a hoax.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:37
|
|
|
Electric Phantasm posted:One of the requirements seems to be getting Noelle to lose interest in Susie which is honestly the most hosed up part in this whole thing and something I could never do to Susie. Kris and Susie is a popular fan pairing so Toby made setting it up into a genocide run 
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:40
|
|
|
So uh the astral projection thing, Ralsei knows what they're doing and have a low-grade freakout when it doesn't work in genocide.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:42
|
|
|
Electric Phantasm posted:One of the requirements seems to be getting Noelle to lose interest in Susie which is honestly the most hosed up part in this whole thing and something I could never do to Susie. In my run last night I was actively trying to encourage the two of them to get together so that's even worse!
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:44
|
|
|
Replaying ch1- I had forgotten just how unsettling the start of the game is. At least until Lancer rides in on his bike knocking Ralsei offscreen and goofy music starts playing.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:45
|
|
|
for reasons i can't entirely articulate, the fact that this alternate route exists kind of sours me on the game actually
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:47
|
|
|
Also: it seems like if you start fresh at chapter 2 it assumes you spared everyone in 1, wonder if that affects things on this possible route
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:49
|
|
|
I wouldn't say it sours me on it but I am curious how they'll keep it up throughout the story. Even though it's said our choices don't matter these changes seem big enough that it'd change the plot significantly
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:51
|
|
|
this is nuts and I can't believe this exists
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:51
|
|
|
Amppelix posted:for reasons i can't entirely articulate, the fact that this alternate route exists kind of sours me on the game actually same, honestly. even disregarding the content, like i'd said earlier, it feels like way too much considering DR's increased scope, especially with the more developed cast. not to mention the main route is already a lot more melancholy and foreboding than UT's pacifist run, so did we really need an edgy murder-path this time around?
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:52
|
|
|
Amppelix posted:for reasons i can't entirely articulate, the fact that this alternate route exists kind of sours me on the game actually Oxxidation posted:same, honestly. even disregarding the content, like i'd said earlier, it feels like way too much considering DR's increased scope, especially with the more developed cast. not to mention the main route is already a lot more melancholy and foreboding than UT's pacifist run, so did we really need an edgy murder-path this time around? If there's any consolation I can't imagine this leads into chapter 3
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:53
|
|
|
Honestly I think it'd depend on the payoff, and it's too early to know what that is yet since this is only ch2
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:53
|
|
|
Chocolate Bunny posted:I wouldn't say it sours me on it but I am curious how they'll keep it up throughout the story. Even though it's said our choices don't matter these changes seem big enough that it'd change the plot significantly yeah it feels like..... too much? the story ramifications are........... just really big, and we're only in chapter 2
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:54
|
|
|
Amppelix posted:for reasons i can't entirely articulate, the fact that this alternate route exists kind of sours me on the game actually I'll reserve judgement for now but it does feel like the seams are more visible around the edge, if you know what I mean. Maybe it'll fit in better when we have the full game but there's a big disconnect between Kris's behavior in the chapter and a half before you start the route and once you're on it.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:55
|
|
|
lol toby fox owns
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:56
|
|
|
Worth noting, regarding how the route ends and how it will carry forward - monsters don't leave corpses (at least, not in Undertale, maybe it's different in Deltarune) so it's possible Berdly isn't dead dead in the real world - and him still being alive would mean that this route's ending deviates less from the normal end than it initially seemsAmppelix posted:for reasons i can't entirely articulate, the fact that this alternate route exists kind of sours me on the game actually Yeah I can't really articulate why either but I feel the same way. Part of it is that it doesn't actually seem very... good. Like it doesn't feel as well written or well done as the main route, and while a big part of that is obviously that it wasn't the focus, I feel like a big problem is how it handles the characters.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:57
|
|
|
It does make me feel like he's flying too close to the sun, if this is real it feels a little... self-indulgent maybe? Recklessly over-ambitious?Zinkraptor posted:
Part of my scepticism is it just does not feel like something Toby Fox would write.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:57
|
|
|
I will say that watching that video actually made me feel bad for Berdly when in the main route, at least as far as I played I didn't do the Queen fight yet, I was ready to dropkick that rear end in a top hat into a trashcan He's a dick, but that was a bit much!
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 02:59
|
|
|
It seems to be a lot shorter than the main route. Not sure how to feel about this so far really.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 03:00
|
|
|
NewMars posted:So uh the astral projection thing, Ralsei knows what they're doing and have a low-grade freakout when it doesn't work in genocide. You got a link or anything? Does Susie still split off from you to save Noelle?
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 03:00
|
|
|
I do feel like it's...a lot I appreciate that it exists, but almost want it to not continue past this point? It's hard to explain exactly. I think multiple discrete character growth arcs for a game that's not even a third of the way into release is too much
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 03:00
|
|
|
That was loving bizarre
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 03:01
|
|
|
Oxxidation posted:same, honestly. even disregarding the content, like i'd said earlier, it feels like way too much considering DR's increased scope, especially with the more developed cast. not to mention the main route is already a lot more melancholy and foreboding than UT's pacifist run, so did we really need an edgy murder-path this time around? I don't really care about scope so much because that's on the devs and if they want to do it and feel like they can i'm not going to tell them no. It just feels meaner and Undertale's genocide run was too mean for me anyway. I ain't really feeling it.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 03:02
|
|
|
Anyone know if it works like Undertale yet - if going all the way on this route has lasting consequences even when you reload? (Granted we're only on chapter 2, but the gimmick was present even in Undertale's demo.) Also, makes me wonder if there's alternate routes for Susie and Ralsei somehow.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 03:03
|
|
|
good stuff
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 03:03
|
|
|
BERDLY IS DEAD e: lmao sick burn on berdly's gamer hobbies rudy
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 03:03
|
|
|
SyntheticPolygon posted:I don't really care about scope so much because that's on the devs and if they want to do it and feel like they can i'm not going to tell them no. It just feels meaner and Undertale's genocide run was too mean for me anyway. I ain't really feeling it. yeah the geno route’s grimness was counterbalanced somewhat by the bravery (futile or not) of the monsters you were stomping through. this is just you browbeating a traumatized kid into killing people for shiggles
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 03:04
|
|
|
I was worried the Thanksgiving Hack was too mean but I am no longer concerned.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 03:05
|
|
|
Roobanguy posted:jesus thats darker than anything in undertale, the game that you can literally genocide the world in.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 03:05
|
|
|
Zinkraptor posted:Worth noting, regarding how the route ends and how it will carry forward - monsters don't leave corpses (at least, not in Undertale, maybe it's different in Deltarune) so it's possible Berdly isn't dead dead in the real world - and him still being alive would mean that this route's ending deviates less from the normal end than it initially seems If you Fight Queen instead of freeing Berdley, he frees himself and burns his arms. Then when he wakes up in the light world he's no longer able to move his arms at all. It's possible that the result of freezing him in the dark world is "just" inflicting a form of Locked-in Syndrome on him.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 03:06
|
|
|
You know what? I am gonna say i called it.Tunicate posted:Gone away is the blue bird.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 03:07
|
|
|
well the alt route definitely confirms that the player is the one making the choices and not actually Kris, as Noelle states the voice telling her to do these things were not Kris' but someone else
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 03:08
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 27, 2024 07:35 |
|
|
On a lighter subject, am I the only one finding the graze challenge to be literally impossible? No matter what I do I always get hit at least once.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2021 03:09
|
|