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quote:To have him unseen felt wrong and off, so I added his perspective This is all but outright admitting that Snout doesn't give a gently caress about anyone else in the comic, even the characters that are supposedly his friends, because his perspective does not include them. He only cares about himself.
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TheHan posted:lmao holy poo poo I feel like pure landscapes could have been pleasant and even, if he were a better artist, exciting. A character being bored could even be good as well - maybe make a bunch of simple small panels of Snout being bored, chatting with the others, being bored again, and so on along the bottom of the page for each landscape page. I realize this is an unfair comparison but Bill Watterson was really good at depicting Calvin being bored in fun and interesting ways, along with being an absolutely beautiful landscape artist with relatively simple designs. Mookie could have even called it an 'homage' to Calvin & Hobbes!
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Sep 22, 2021 19:27
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TheHan posted:lmao holy poo poo
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Sep 22, 2021 19:41
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Happy Landfill posted:Haha, so what do I win? Congratulations! You can think like Mookie.
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Sep 22, 2021 19:43
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Zereth posted:The answers to those questions are "yes", "yes", and "yes". Mookie's only critic is himself, and he already answered no to all these.
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Sep 22, 2021 19:49
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Okay yeah, but the rest of the comic is boring as well.
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Sep 22, 2021 20:51
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Chapter 52: A Long Flight was boring on purpose, to simulate the tedium of real-world long trips. Chapter 51: The Library Card was, uh....
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Sep 22, 2021 20:58
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"challenging myself as a comic creator"
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Sep 22, 2021 21:11
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He stepped out of his comfort zone by making it poo poo on purpose instead of accidentally.
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Sep 22, 2021 21:25
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God, it's always an "experiment" with him. Wasn't Stonewater the "heroic" rapist an experiment also? Did he ever describe it like that or am I misremembering?
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Sep 22, 2021 22:04
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Yep. I don't remember the quote word for word, but he definitely said making a sexy rapist was an experiment for him because no one's done it before.
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Sep 22, 2021 22:33
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It's just an admission of "I don't know what the gently caress I am doing" twisted into a form of self-assurance. "Is this section of the comic I am planning out going to be boring? It looks like it, so by following through with it anyway I am displaying boldness!" It's like an extension of his general philosophy towards passion vs expertise; much like he portrays a love for books as good but being actually well-read and studious as bad, he sees creative challenges as a dare rather than an intellectual exercise. It's about "do I dare challenge my limits by writing a boring scene?" and not about "do I challenge my limits by trying to figure out how to deliver a boring scene in a satisfying way?".
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Sep 22, 2021 23:04
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"I work full time as a comic creator and there is no way I could have planned it in advance so I didn't have weeks of boring low effort filler"
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Sep 22, 2021 23:35
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I remember way back this dummy was waxing poetic about his darn imposter syndrome making his comic making hard and I was just thinking you absolute buffoon you have to be a high achiever to have imposter syndrome you absolute fool wannabe humble bragger.
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Sep 22, 2021 23:37
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TheHan posted:lmao holy poo poo I'd say there's a reason shaggy dog stories are hated. Mors Rattus posted:Still loving that at no point does Mookie or Snout ever think of the possibility of interacting with the people nearby who are theoretically his friends. That's the thing about it, this was the perfect downtime in the plot to flesh out these characters. Instead we got pointless filler and he's proud of having made it. Pacing is all about moving from one story beat to the next, the only time you should show the downtime is when something important is about to happen or the characters are going to interact. Otherwise just skip to the next important thing or have a quick montage.
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Sep 22, 2021 23:40
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Looks like the real boredom was the friends we made along the way.
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Sep 23, 2021 01:45
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Mx. posted:"I work full time as a comic creator and there is no way I could have planned it in advance so I didn't have weeks of boring low effort filler" Of course he can't plan it in advance, then it wouldn't be a surprise to him!
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Sep 23, 2021 03:28
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Mors Rattus posted:Still loving that at no point does Mookie or Snout ever think of the possibility of interacting with the people nearby who are theoretically his friends. I find it even funnier that originally Snout himself had been left out of this chapter, and even Mookie thought that was too lazy. So he copy pasted in some poses and called it a day. Way to go champ, nobody can say Mookie didn't try. Except Mookie, who told us in this very blog post that he didn't try.
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Sep 23, 2021 04:26
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It's pretty telling that none of the characters or events or goals matter more than Snout's feelings moment to moment.
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Sep 23, 2021 04:37
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Remember, Snout's defining characteristic is curiosity. He's always seeking new knowledge. That's why on an hours long ride, rather than picking the brains of the people who seem to know a lot of things, he chooses to pick his nose and whine about how boring it is.
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Sep 23, 2021 05:03
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Fister Roboto posted:Remember, Snout's defining characteristic is curiosity. He's always seeking new knowledge. That's why on an hours long ride, rather than picking the brains of the people who seem to know a lot of things, he chooses to pick his nose and whine about how boring it is.
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Sep 23, 2021 06:12
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Howard Beale posted:Looks like the real boredom was the friends we made along the way. Wow. No wonder I hate you all and myself.
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Sep 23, 2021 09:12
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I know if I was a reclusive hermit who only interacted with the world through books because of my burning curiosity and desire to see and learn more, and was finally encouraged to go on a world-spanning adventure to discover a mystery no one apparently has the answer to, getting to literally FLY in a bizarre ship with magical wizards who hold mysterious secrets they've only hinted at, speeding across wild scenery I'd only imagined about in a book and from a perspective I'd never even thought possible, I'd get bored in 5 seconds and start playing with my toes and wondering when someone was going to cuddle naked with me again. Like anyone ever drive over the causeway in Louisiana, like I've driven over bridges before but WOW the bridge is so long you can't see the other end! And I've driven over it a dozen times and I'm still impressed and psyched up by it every time! I've SEEN bridges and I've seen THIS bridge before and it was just as exciting on trip 6 as it was trip 1! This is Snout's first time seeing an expansive body of water in his LIFE and his reaction is to PLAY WITH HIS TOES LIKE A TODDLER. Why is Snout THIS much of a soft babyman that he is literally an actual child???? Like I don't wish Mookie ill I wish him BETTER. I wish he was better at this. I wish after 20 years of this being his job he'd improved upon it at all. Like we've all done sophmoric creative works we should be and are ashamed of but they're critical learning steps in being a creative animal, Mookie we are all waiting on the other side of artistic adolescence it isn't a thing that happens with age you have to learn the secrets they aren't even that hard secrets buddy please you're on the level of 12 year old me's meandering fanfiction where each chapter was focused on what I was thinking about that given week Mookie please be better than 12 year old me I am pleading you I want to see you earn a fifth of your own ego please.
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Sep 23, 2021 17:58
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i wouldnt consider 'curiosity' a defining character trait of mine but if i was riding in that ship i'd be asking about every part of the landscape I saw, and when they first visited/found out about this place, and any fun facts they knew about it? Its weird for a 'curious' person to act like this when faced with a new environment.
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Sep 24, 2021 05:10
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A crucial problem is that curiosity assumes a world outside of the character. Snout can only be curious about things that exist, and since only what is on the page right now exists because object permanence is dead and the author has killed it, and the panel is always framed on Snout. There is nothing! There is only Snout!
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Sep 24, 2021 05:19
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Zereth posted:The answers to those questions are "yes", "yes", and "yes". IMO: 1. If you have to ask... 2. What momentum? 3. The whole comic is actually the mistake
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Sep 24, 2021 07:14
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Good thing nobody is injured from a high speed crash into waist high water.
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Sep 24, 2021 07:18
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Giant lake, waist high water at the point where the ship crashes, despite having visibly middle-of-the-lake waves in the crash sequence.
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Sep 24, 2021 07:33
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I cant wait for this character to have no backstory, personality, or influence on the non-existant plot
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Sep 24, 2021 07:37
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Personally, I like how at a distance of about 5 meters the female characters have absolutely no facial features and the male characters have about 3 seconds worth of doodling for their faces.
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Sep 24, 2021 07:43
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Softface posted:Personally, I like how at a distance of about 5 meters the female characters have absolutely no facial features and the male characters have about 3 seconds worth of doodling for their faces. the ladies lost their faces in the crash
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Sep 24, 2021 07:45
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Joe Slowboat posted:A crucial problem is that curiosity assumes a world outside of the character. Snout can only be curious about things that exist, and since only what is on the page right now exists because object permanence is dead and the author has killed it, and the panel is always framed on Snout. There is nothing! There is only Snout! I'll keep leaning on the Neverending Story comparison because yes, this is the true form of the Nothing. The few times something has happened it's always collapsed into a non-event.
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Sep 24, 2021 08:32
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Well, at least Snout looks happy in that last panel.
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Sep 24, 2021 08:45
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Swear we've seen that Snout 'two dots and a triangle' face before.
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Sep 24, 2021 09:35
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Maxwell Lord posted:Swear we've seen that Snout 'two dots and a triangle' face before. I have to say it is the one thing I find kinda charming about this comic, I am always kinda amused by his minimalistic face in these situations.
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Sep 24, 2021 09:36
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The figure facing them looks like Snout from behind sans tail.
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Sep 24, 2021 10:19
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What the gently caress. It barely looked like they were crashing in the last page. It didn't look like they were crashing into water at all? Was that giant mess of texture brushes supposed to be a water splash??
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Sep 24, 2021 11:34
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Stahlgeist posted:The figure facing them looks like Snout from behind sans tail. For a brief moment, I thought it would be. But that would mean some mystery or intrique, and that's not happening here.
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FlocksOfMice posted:What the gently caress. It barely looked like they were crashing in the last page. It didn't look like they were crashing into water at all? Was that giant mess of texture brushes supposed to be a water splash?? You know how bad editing and cinematography in a movie can make it feel like there is a discontinuity and poo poo just teleported around? That's what this page feels like. I went back in the thread to see if I had skipped one because from the last one to this one it doesn't parse at all. This would be genuinely infuriating in a book format.
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