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cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




other context for that interview: it was the first and hopefully the only time in my life where i had to type python code in a google doc, with interviewer copying it and running it in their interpreter

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Armitag3
Mar 15, 2020

Forget it Jake, it's cybertown.


cinci zoo sniper posted:

other context for that interview: it was the first and hopefully the only time in my life where i had to type python code in a google doc, with interviewer copying it and running it in their interpreter

When (not if, because lol) that happens to me I hope I have the fortitude to just hang up on their asses, honestly.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Armitag3 posted:

When (not if, because lol) that happens to me I hope I have the fortitude to just hang up on their asses, honestly.

it was without warning too - i was invited for a “chat”, that turned out to be in an hour long leetcoding session in google docs. the position was interesting enough that i just went with it and then gave recruiter an earful, but the subsequent interviews were even worse and i just walked off

toiletbrush
May 17, 2010

cinci zoo sniper posted:

other context for that interview: it was the first and hopefully the only time in my life where i had to type python code in a google doc, with interviewer copying it and running it in their interpreter
lol if that was supposed to be part of the challenge rather than just the interviewer being totally inept. actually lol either way

One of my first interviews out of uni involved coding up a solution to a problem but written out fresh off the cuff with pen and paper, making heavy use of the STL, in valid C++ with accurate #includes/semicolons/namespaces and whatnot, while they watched. After I wrote it up they disappeared for a few minutes, then came back and told me about all of the syntax errors and finished off with a C++/STL esoterica trivia test.

On the upside it put me off ever interviewing for a C++ job again

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




toiletbrush posted:

lol if that was supposed to be part of the challenge rather than just the interviewer being totally inept. actually lol either way

One of my first interviews out of uni involved coding up a solution to a problem but written out fresh off the cuff with pen and paper, making heavy use of the STL, in valid C++ with accurate #includes/semicolons/namespaces and whatnot, while they watched. After I wrote it up they disappeared for a few minutes, then came back and told me about all of the syntax errors and finished off with a C++/STL esoterica trivia test.

On the upside it put me off ever interviewing for a C++ job again

please tell me you did finish university in 1980 or something

toiletbrush
May 17, 2010

cinci zoo sniper posted:

please tell me you did finish university in 1980 or something
lol no, was around 2006 or so. the night before, my dad had even warned me to look out for dumb 'initiative' tests like seating me stupidly far from the interviewers, and it was going through my mind the whole time, but it was literally my third 'proper job' interview ever and I was too green and desperate to call them out on it

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




toiletbrush posted:

lol if that was supposed to be part of the challenge rather than just the interviewer being totally inept. actually lol either way

One of my first interviews out of uni involved coding up a solution to a problem but written out fresh off the cuff with pen and paper, making heavy use of the STL, in valid C++ with accurate #includes/semicolons/namespaces and whatnot, while they watched. After I wrote it up they disappeared for a few minutes, then came back and told me about all of the syntax errors and finished off with a C++/STL esoterica trivia test.

On the upside it put me off ever interviewing for a C++ job again

jesus loving christ

huhu
Feb 24, 2006

huhu posted:

Yesterday was my last day. Today they laid off 30% of the company, 50% of the engineers. My glass of "I told yall so" tastes real good tonight.

Just got an offer that's between $40k and $80k a year better than my previous job depending on how the stock price does (last job was an awful startup and no benefits, now I have the same salary plus ESPP, sign on bonus, RSUs, and a ton of other benefits). Stock grew by over 100% last year so fingers crossed.

Took a bunch of great interview questions from this thread, so that you all for the advice.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


silvergoose posted:

jesus loving christ

Oh hey I had an interview like that about a year back, C++ and everything too.

It was for a video software and camera company, a pretty high-profile one.

My handwriting is poo poo which I assume didn't help, suffice to say I didn't get far.

e: something something dodged bullet

e2: the company name may or may not be similar to "mlack bagic design"

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Sep 26, 2021

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

cinci zoo sniper posted:

i implemented interview problem in 2 ways - o(nlogn) and o(n). they told me o(nlogn) is faster than o(n), and instructed me to further improve the former variant.

even if this would have been a joke, this is like “boss jokes about firing you” tier of appropriateness of jokes. and that’s not touching the obvious language difficulties the interviewer, a non-native speaker, was having.

Where do you get all these interviews caring about big O? Is there an undergrowth of people caring a lot ?

CPColin
Sep 9, 2003

Big ol' smile.

champagne posting posted:

Where do you get all these interviews caring about big O?

PornHub

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



cinci zoo sniper posted:

and instructed me to further improve the former variant.

look at it. look at how wrong i was and be in awe. goddrat thats bad

FMguru posted:

"when someone tells you who they are, believe them"

yeah v_v

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




champagne posting posted:

Where do you get all these interviews caring about big O? Is there an undergrowth of people caring a lot ?

ive been getting a handful of less generic ml engineer ads (e.g. high frequency real time inference or unusual algorithm implementation) fired my way in the last couple of months, and pretty much every single one wanted to hear some classical data structure/algorithm reasoning from me. which makes sense, since i would not only have to write computationally solid python code initially, but also take it closer to metal where appropriate, going beyond my current comfort zone stack-wise

Blinkz0rz
May 27, 2001

MY CONTEMPT FOR MY OWN EMPLOYEES IS ONLY MATCHED BY MY LOVE FOR TOM BRADY'S SWEATY MAGA BALLS

Menacer posted:

i would absolutely assume that someone who said incompetent poo poo in a professional setting is actually incompetent. i have been burned so much in my career by assuming that someone saying stupid poo poo has some deeper reason for it, or they're joking, or whatever.

you know that it's ok to be wrong, right?

Xarn
Jun 26, 2015

cinci zoo sniper posted:

i had to type python code in a google doc, with interviewer copying it and running it in their interpreter

toiletbrush posted:

One of my first interviews out of uni involved coding up a solution to a problem but written out fresh off the cuff with pen and paper, making heavy use of the STL, in valid C++ with accurate #includes/semicolons/namespaces and whatnot, while they watched. After I wrote it up they disappeared for a few minutes, then came back and told me about all of the syntax errors and finished off with a C++/STL esoterica trivia test.

We need :murder: but it keeps growing every cycle until it takes over the entire screen.

Menacer
Nov 25, 2000
Failed Sega Accessory Ahoy!

Blinkz0rz posted:

you know that it's ok to be wrong, right?

absolutely. but why would i give the benefit of the doubt to the interviewer in an interview setting?

Blinkz0rz
May 27, 2001

MY CONTEMPT FOR MY OWN EMPLOYEES IS ONLY MATCHED BY MY LOVE FOR TOM BRADY'S SWEATY MAGA BALLS

Menacer posted:

absolutely. but why would i give the benefit of the doubt to the interviewer in an interview setting?

idk unless the interviewer is a jerk that doubles down on being wrong it could just be that they don't know

Menacer
Nov 25, 2000
Failed Sega Accessory Ahoy!

Blinkz0rz posted:

idk unless the interviewer is a jerk that doubles down on being wrong it could just be that they don't know

sounds like a hosed up interview if they're coming in and asking questions they don't know anything about.

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

Plorkyeran posted:

it is true that a nlogn algorithm can be faster than the n algorithm for the values of n that you care about, and it is also true that logn is less than one when n is one, but those two facts aren't actually connected and the second isn't the reason why the first is true
being a smart-rear end is possibly worse that merely being wrong

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

The actual exam only cared about correctness, not performance. The three questions were stepwise refinement problems like I'm used to, but they were each very long. I only got the first of the three questions complete and correct, so my score was 39%. I spent a big chunk of time, 20-30 minutes, because I forgot that Python's .split() can't split by multiple delimiters like other languages I've studied since learning it, before I realized what I'd done. I used the regular expression module, re, because it came up while studying Web Scraping with Python, but the problem could have been done without it. Other than that, it was all Computer Science I stuff, just with longer problems. I wish I'd read all three questions before tackling the problems, because I felt more confident about the third one than the second one. The site says my test will be reviewed before October 6.

edit: The third problem involved sorting by date/time, and I have never done that before, so that probably would have been a stumbling block as well.

galenanorth fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Sep 27, 2021

qsvui
Aug 23, 2003
some crazy thing

champagne posting posted:

Where do you get all these interviews caring about big O? Is there an undergrowth of people caring a lot ?

every single interview i've had with a "big boy" tech company (and those aspiring to be one) asked about Big O to some extent. probably some faang started it and everyone else just cargo culted

FamDav
Mar 29, 2008

qsvui posted:

every single interview i've had with a "big boy" tech company (and those aspiring to be one) asked about Big O to some extent. probably some faang started it and everyone else just cargo culted

i mean its been true for years? though what i find particularly hilarious is how few places by comparison will ask "why is it correct?". this is not and probably was never a good interview q, but i used to ask years ago something like the following

code:
Given an input string S and an alphabet A, find the length of the shortest substring in S that contains all the letters in the alphabet at least once 
some percentage of people would get the right answer, but what was really surprising is that only ~60% could actually explain why their answer was correct. presumedly these people had memorized the answer or the pattern for this kind of problem but didn't actually learn why the pattern guaranteed the correct answer.

Arcsech
Aug 5, 2008

qsvui posted:

every single interview i've had with a "big boy" tech company (and those aspiring to be one) asked about Big O to some extent. probably some faang started it and everyone else just cargo culted

to be fair, knowing the difference between an O(n^2) operation and an O(2^n) operation is really important even if you're just a data plumber. algo complexity is one of those cs topics that's actually reasonable to check in interviews

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


There's a big difference between checking for an understanding of complexity and the song and dance routines we have in place now.

AWWNAW
Dec 30, 2008

going into a google phone screen tomorrow with absolutely zero ambition lol

AWWNAW
Dec 30, 2008

I’m more worried about being able to fake some enthusiasm than getting asked some bullshit smarty pants questions

fourwood
Sep 9, 2001

Damn I'll bring them to their knees.

AWWNAW posted:

going into a google phone screen tomorrow with absolutely zero ambition lol

AWWNAW posted:

I’m more worried about being able to fake some enthusiasm than getting asked some bullshit smarty pants questions

wait are you me

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
imma have to stop being so humble and start standing up for myself and my skills I reckon

reality is : real life echi rules. he’s good at all sorts of poo poo and real good at loads of poo poo others arent, and have a reasonably unique set of skills that others don’t

I just gotta make this clear, and make it count. and get my fingers in as many pies as possible

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



wait, the last time you tried that didn't you put your finger up a girls rear end at a burger king?

barkbell
Apr 14, 2006

woof
wat

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
that story has been butchered and no.. that did not happen

Poopernickel
Oct 28, 2005

electricity bad
Fun Shoe

echinopsis posted:

get my fingers in as many pies as possible

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



turns out it was actually a mcdonalds

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
:rolleyes:

290 the other day was giving me poo poo for a change and retold part of that story utterly wrong and now it’s canon. fml

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



i haven't seen anybody post about it since it was your custom av. has nothing to do with jonny

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
until about a couple days ago when 290 said something like “fingering bum hole in burgerking”, no one ever said anything about fingering in burger king


the story involves fingers in bums AND burgerking but that didn’t happen in burgerking


i need to write an saclopedia about it so people can keep their facts straight

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



sorry man seriously doesn't ring a bell. i'm like 99% sure that's literally how you told the story

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



if you want to dig up the original post and i'm wrong i'll admit it but i'm not gonna hold my breath

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
gently caress man why don’t you just believe me. i’ve told the story at least three or four times going back to early 2010s

like i know my reputation here is on thin ice but one thing I don’t tend to do is lie

what purpose would it serve for me to try to change the story this long after it’s been in existence?

:rolleyes:

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echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
plus if the story was like that it’d just be gross

it’s far more embarrassing and cringe inducing the way it actually happened

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