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girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

MarquiseMindfang posted:

Whatever coffin you pick is getting fired into space, isn't it? You know, like if you imagine it as a giant revolver...

Komaeda was not the Impostor.

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HydroSphere
Feb 11, 2014







(From what we heard... the rules are simple. Nine coffins... If Gin is picked, we lose. If Komaeda is hit, we win. But...)

“Is it really... that simple...?"


(Above all... It's strange that Komaeda, who should be in a coffin, isn't saying anything...)

".........."

Music stops.

(But... It doesn't change what we have to do! We'll discuss it together and find an answer...!!)





Kanna's statement.



Music stops.

"Okay...! Let's take a look at the machine!"

(Alright, then... I'll touch around and see if there's anything else we can control.)



Investigate base of platform.

Music stops.

(This part of the platform... It shows the number of each coffin. So what are these round lamps beneath the numbers...?)

"Hey, whoa! Don't go casually pressin' that!"

"...Will you tell me about it?"

"Of course! See, these lamps are..."





"Hint...?"

"Yep! This is a game where you and Komaeda take turns selecting coffins, but..."

"Before each selection, you can get one hint!"



Can Komaeda use that too...?"

"Yes ma'am! And I'm sure he will!"

"And what exactly are these hints?"

"Too bad! Explanation ends here!"

"Just see what happens and think about it!"

(W-What...?!)

"You're good at puzzles, ain'tcha?"

Music stops.

(Urgh! If we can only use it once, I can't choose aimlessly... I want to narrow things down to an extent first. I think we need to discuss after all...)





"Alright...! Let's observe!"

(So he says, but...)

"They all look pretty much the same..."

(The only one we can identify is Anzu's coffin.)

“That means there's only a one in eight chance that we hit Komaeda."

"There's also the possibility we hit Gin...!"

"Meowww?!"

"That's a problem, woof!! I can't die like this, woof!!"

(Right, but what difference in appearance is there?!)

"Is there not something?! Some way to see things the eye cannot...!"

(Let me think about it...)

"Hmph... Have you thought of something, Sara Chidouin?"



"How about we use an item?"

"Hmph... It seems you have an idea. Then show it to me! This so-called "item"...!"

(I'll present it to him...)

Show lantern to Alice.

Music stops.



"What...? The lantern?"

"The light of this lantern can reveal things that you can't normally see!"

"But... I thought it was out of battery..."

"We'll use the one I picked up."



"Thinkin' it's the same as your lantern, Sara."

"Thank you very much...!"

"Now, let's try this!"





"The coffins are glowing...!"

"Eh...? Wha...? What's going on outside?!"

(We're not sure of the details either, but... There's something special to these coffins! We might just be able to tell them apart...!)

Music stops.






"The coffins must be made with a special material that glows in the lantern's light..."

"Hey, hey! What's it look like?! How many glowing coffins are there?! Tell me!"

"We saw the coffins glowin' like this when we were off on our own, too!"



Extract statement from Hayasaka.

"The coffins must be made with a special material that glows in the lantern's light... Just for example, I believe some ores like ruby and diamond glow in ultraviolet light."

"Maybe those coffins are made of diamond, too..."

Extract statement from Q-taro.

"We saw the coffins glowin' like this when we were off on our own, too!"

"Never would've guessed the same lantern would be on Floor 5 too..."

"When we used it in the cemetery... all seven coffins started glowin'!"

(All seven coffins...? This is an important statement...!)

Extract statement from Anzu.

"Hey, hey! What's it look like?! How many glowing coffins are there?! Tell me!"

"W-Well? Do you know...?"



“Five.”

"Really...? Hmm... I see..."

"...So?"

"If there are five glowing coffins, then, like... what?!"

(This has to be a lead... Let me think about it.)

Conflict Q-taro against Anzu.

Music stops.

"All seven... glowed?"

"Y-Yeah...!"

"Then... Why are only five glowing now?"

"By the way, there exist no other coffins than these!"

(So the seven glowing coffins were reduced to five glowing coffins because...)

"There are coffins that lost their glow...!"

"Awright, why don't we think about why that is?!"








"I've lost my glow?!"

"Ahem... Don't go addin' pointless statements."

"Ah...! I'll retract it!"

"Maple exploded on top of Anzu's coffin. Is that why...?"

"But... There should be another coffin that's lost its glow too, right?"

"…"

"Is there any other possible cause...?"

(Even little things matter here...)

"Do any of you remember anything unusual that happened to the coffins...?"

"All I can think of is how their peculiar smell bothers me..."

"Ahh... That's right, Hinako splashed liquid at me and got my coffin all sticky..."

"Maybe the coffins actually use power to glow? Surely... they ran out of battery!"

"It's gotta be the explosion's fault, yeah? The heat of the blast, say..."

Extract statement from Kanna.

"The Dummies also run on battery! It would make sense if their coffins did too!"

Extract statement from Hayasaka.

"All I can think of is how their peculiar smell bothers me..."

"I feel like staying in this coffin for too long will give my suit a stench... Haha..."

Extract statement from Kurumada.

"It's gotta be the explosion's fault, yeah? The heat of the blast, say..."

"The impact of the explosion, or the heat... There's a lot that could've done it, ain't there?"

Extract statement from Ranmaru.

"Ahh... That's right, Hinako splashed liquid at me and got my coffin all sticky..."

"See, Hinako was having me hold her cocoa..."

"And I said "it's hot, carry it yourself."”

"Then she crumpled it up, and splashed it all over my coffin..."

"...I had no choice but to wipe it off myself."

"But... That ain't important, is it?"

(I can't overlook this statement...!)

Conflict Ranmaru with Kurumada.

Music stops.

"Hold on a sec! I wanna hear about what you said!"

"Wha?! Me...?!"

"Yeah, I think it was cocoa, but..."

"Maybe it was actually... a cafe mocha?"

"Whichever it is, that ain't the point!! Ranmaru said the cocoa didn't matter..."

"But both the explosion and the hot cocoa... share the fact of bein' super hot!!"



"Hey, hey! Is that really relevant?!"



"Err... If the heat had an effect, that means..."

"Something melted...?"

"Paint...!"

"Maybe there's somethin' like paint on the surface of the coffins that glows from the lantern?"



"The consent form in the classroom...!"





"Whoaaa!! So it was usin' the same paint?!"

"It's not unlikely...!"

"If the paint comes off at high temperatures..."

"Then I can understand why Ranmaru's coffin would have lost its glow!"

"And it's possible that a certain other coffin lost its glow as well...!"

(Another coffin that stopped glowing...)



"The coffin Keiji was in...! That coffin used a cremation system meant to grill Keiji alive!"

"Indeed... With enough heat that just touching the lid would burn you!"

"So Mr. Policeman's coffin lost its glow too, meow!"

"I bet the melted paint got under the lid, which is why it got stuck and wouldn't open, meow!!"

"Yet... how strange..."

"Going with this, there's Anzu, Ranmaru, Keiji... Three coffins would have stopped glowing!"

"Ahh! The numbers don't match up!"

Music stops.

"Umm, well... and also..."



(Good point... I want to clear that up.)

"Understood! Let's discuss it!"






"First up, when I split off from Sara... All seven coffins in the cemetery were glowin'!"

"Hmph... Then someone painted the coffins before we parted from Cubetaro Hamburger!"

"I imagine it had to have been Komaeda... Surely the culprit wouldn't be one of us?"

"I know! Wouldn't it get on their hands or clothes when they applied it? That paint stuff!"

"I don't remember seeing anyone acting questionably in the cemetery..."

"Could there... not be a culprit, meow?"

"Hey, do you think there's a difference between Gin and Komaeda's coffins and the rest...?"

"Got it! The culprit is Maple!"

"Hold up, we sure that old-timer Q-taro is tellin' the truth...?"

"There must be some meaning to them being painted in the first place..."

Extract statement from Ranmaru.

"I know! Wouldn't it get on their hands or clothes when they applied it? That paint stuff!"

"Sara! Check if there's paint on anyone's clothes!"

"...Nope, don't see anything."

"Seriously?! Not even Komaeda?!"

"...I can't see someone inside a coffin."

"O-Oh, right... Dammit...!"

Extract statement from Hinako.

"I imagine it had to have been Komaeda... Surely the culprit wouldn't be one of us?"

"Only Komaeda would get these weird ideas..."

"What kind of intention did he have...? Can't even be bothered to consider it."

Extract statement from Kurumada.

"Hold up, we sure that old-timer Q-taro is tellin' the truth...?"

"If this gets us makin' a misjudgement, we'll be in some real poo poo...!"

Extract statement from Mai.

"Hey, do you think there's a difference between Gin and Komaeda's coffins and the rest...?"

"Maybe they were stored differently from the coffins in the cemetery, for instance..."

Extract statement from Anzu.

"Got it! The culprit is Maple!"

"See, when we couldn't go down to Floor 4... She was there slapping on the paint!"

"But wasn't the shutter closed so no one could get into the cemetery?"

"Oh yeah, huh!! Sorry!!"

Extract statement from Hayasaka.

"There must be some meaning to them being painted in the first place..."

"I mean, so long as they aren't lit by the lantern, their color isn't even any different."

Extract statement from Gin.

"Could there... not be a culprit, meow?"

"The culprit doesn't exist...!"

"In other words, a ghost, meow! The ghost of the person in that coffin played a trick, woof!"



"Haha..."

"I was joking, meow! Stop treating me like a troublesome kid, woof!"

"I mean, it's a brand new coffin, so of course there wouldn't be a ghost, meow."

"Brand new...?"

"Huh? Big sis Sara, you don't remember, woof?"

"Seaweed head said "Ahh, I can't wait... It's my first time using this fancy new coffin”, meow!"

(Come to think of it...!)

Extract statement from Alice.

"Hmph... Then someone painted the coffins before we parted from Cubetaro Hamburger!"

"It's inconceivable that no one saw such a suspicious act. Thus..."

"It was much, much earlier...!"

"The very beginning! Before the Death Game even begaaaaan!!"

(Before it began...?)

"Don't gawk at me! What I mean is they were repainted for the Death Game!"

"Surely Komaeda repainted some old coffins that had been sitting around for some time...!"

(He reused them...?)

Extract statement from Q-taro.

"First up, when I split off from Sara... All seven coffins in the cemetery were glowin'!"

"For the record, there's four unglowin' coffins now..."

"You can tell if you light 'em up, but... It's #2, #4, #5, and #7."

Extract statement from Kanna.

"I don't remember seeing anyone acting questionably in the cemetery..."

"I imagine it would take some time to paint all of the coffins..."

Conflict Gin against Alice.

Music stops.



"Naturally, meow!"

"No wonder there were no suspicious persons...!"



"A new coffin would have been painted to begin with!"

"So it was coated in paint back when it was made!"

"Like the chocolate on chocolate-covered almonds!!"

"Then even the coffins outside the cemetery...!"

"Yes, Meister said so... That Gin and Komaeda's coffins are both new."



"Both of their coffins glow!"

"Exactly, meow!"

"Then the numbers would add up!"

"It's not two out of seven coffins that no longer glow..."

"It's four out of nine...!"

"Anzu's, Ranmaru's, Keiji's... and one more coffin ceased to glow!"

(There's just one we can't identify...?)

"But I suspect the last one would be among the cemetery coffins..."

"This is some amazing information, isn't it...?"

"Because it means that Komaeda is in one of the glowing coffins!"

"Ohh! Then if we pick a glowing coffin...!"

"W... Wait up!!"

Music stops.



"Oh yeah! Then that's no good!"

"Unless we got a way to distinguish Gin and Komaeda, it's still a game of chance!!"

(...One in five. One in five odds... that we hit Komaeda...?)

(If we just miss, that's one thing... But if we hit Gin... Gin dies.)

"Sara... Don'tcha think it's about time we try that hint function?"

"...!"

"We've narrowed it down to five... If we use the hint, we might narrow it down more!"

"...You're right."

"I'll explain how to use it."



"Okay, got it..."

"I'll choose one of the glowing coffins to use a hint on...!"





I pressed the lamp.





"Ohh...!!"

"...Wait, is that it?! What's that tell us?!"

"Calm yourself, Cubetaro Hamburger! That is what we will now consider...!"

"G-Guess you're right..."

"Listen... We can't use another hint..."

"If we don't hit Komaeda, it'll come around to his turn...!"

"We have to prevent that! Gin's life is on the line...!"



"The lamp's color...!"

"Its color?"

"Think back to our searching on this floor! We saw numerous devices with a relation to color!"

"That's true..."

"Then we'll have to discuss what we can determine from the color, meow..."

"Right! If we all join forces... I'm sure we can solve this mystery! Let's uncover... the secret of the color!""

Music stops.






"The lamp indicates the contents! Red, for red blood! In other words, there's a human within!"

"Speakin' of color... there were those three buttons on Maple's back! Red, blue, and yellow!"

"Come to think of it, I feel like I read a message involving the colors red, blue, and yellow..."

"Hey, could it be gender or somethin'? Lotsa bathrooms in Japan use red for girls, blue for boys, yeah?"

"I don't know if it's relevant, but... There was a colored glow for my fingerprint scan!"

"I kinda feel like it's gonna be hard to theorize just from the color of the lamp, woof...!!"

Extract statement from Kanna.

"Come to think of it, I feel like I read a message involving the colors red, blue, and yellow..."

"Err... I think it was..."

"I'm sorry! I can't remember...! I'm sure I would if I saw it again..."

Extract statement from Alice.

"The lamp indicates the contents! Red, for red blood! In other words, there's a human within!"

"True, I feel that may be somewhat forced..."

"But whether or not blood flows through them is a major difference for identifying a doll...!"

Extract statement from Gin.

"I kinda feel like it's gonna be hard to theorize just from the color of the lamp, woof...!!"

"What do we do, woof?! This isn't good, meow..."

(Urgh... Gin's uneasy...)

Extract statement from Mai.

"I don't know if it's relevant, but... There was a colored glow for my fingerprint scan!"

"Err... and that color was..."

"H-Huh? Sorry... I forgot...!"

Extract statement from Kurumada.

"Hey, could it be gender or somethin'? Lotsa bathrooms in Japan use red for girls, blue for boys, yeah?"

"That's why I got laughed at for havin' a red backpack as a kid! Pisses me off...!"

"So anyway, the person in coffin #9's a girl! No mistakin' it!"

Extract statement from Ranmaru.

"Speakin' of color... there were those three buttons on Maple's back! Red, blue, and yellow!"

"Those buttons were linked with emotions, right?!"

"Red is anger, blue is sadness, yellow is joy..."

"Well?! Any connection with the color of the lamp...?!"

(Emotions and colors...)

Show Note to Kanna.

Music stops.



“Is this what you saw, Kanna?”

"What's that...?"

"We found this note while exploring... Which matches something that was displayed on the Coffin Control System."

"Ah...! That's right!"






"Ohhh! And since it was on the coffin control screen..."

"The colors would give information about the contents of the coffins, wouldn't they?!"

(So, the red color of this lamp...!)

"Red: doll..."

"That means one of the Dummies is in there!"

"Mwahaha...! A good hint!"

"For we've learned that all but Gin Ibushi will be red!!"

"If we choose red coffins... we shall avoid hitting Gin Ibushi!"

"…"

Music stops.

"'Zat... really it...?"

"Sara! Remember the coffin control screen again!"



"Specifically... that message in the top-right!"

"Data Log..."



"Ain't this a record from when the contents of the coffins was checked...?!"

"Mya...?! We didn't do anything like that, meow!"

"Does it automatically make a record, maybe...?"



"It must be... when the game started. I'm guessing that note was a printout of this log. And since this says Game Start: Blue 1, Red 6, Yellow 0..."



"But... but wait...! That would mean those seven..."

Music stops.



"A human among the Dummies...!"



"There's whaaaaat?!"

"So who is that sneaky bastard?!"

"I can't believe somethin' like that...!"

"L-Look, let's calm down for a second!"

"You think we can calm down about this?!"

"Because... that means there's a person who's been lying and pretending to be one of the Dummies!"

"Hell, why would they even do something like that?"

(What should I do...? I don't know what this fact means... But I won't be able to fully trust the Dummies at this rate... In that case...)

"...Understood."

Music stops.

"Let's first make it clear who the human is...!"

HydroSphere fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Sep 24, 2021

HydroSphere
Feb 11, 2014

Sorry, please ignore.

HydroSphere fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Sep 24, 2021

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



Time to start stabbin' people! Wait... that can't be the best way to check people...

C...
Jan 22, 2008

Tootin the Doom Flute has led the Kingdom of Ankist into a new age of illumination. Every morning, people wake up and open palm slam a woodwind instrument into their mouth. It is the Doom Flute and right then and there they start playing the notes. They play every note, and they play every note hard
We've already checked one person and one Dummy using that technique, so far so good

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Randalor posted:

Time to start stabbin' people! Wait... that can't be the best way to check people...

It's a bit extreme, but also, a small cut or a prick on the finger would work. Anything that would draw blood, it doesn't need to be a big wound.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
We don't know if dolls bleed or not, but if they do, then that means that humans don't bleed, which means the human must be Kurumada! :pseudo:

Tylana
May 5, 2011

Pillbug
How certain are we that the Komaeda in this game is or is not a doll?

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



Blaze Dragon posted:

It's a bit extreme, but also, a small cut or a prick on the finger would work. Anything that would draw blood, it doesn't need to be a big wound.

I mean, we have robots that are virtually identical to humans, it's not hard to believe a human could just have doll limbs for prosthetics.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Randalor posted:

I mean, we have robots that are virtually identical to humans, it's not hard to believe a human could just have doll limbs for prosthetics.

True. A small cut to the face then. It may even leave a cool scar, win-win.

MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

Tylana posted:

How certain are we that the Komaeda in this game is or is not a doll?



Reasonably?

I don't think we've seen a verifiably human Komaeda yet. There's the rocket punch one, the one we had the head for, and the one Alice "killed";



(See? No blood.)

Was there ever a real Sou Hiyori?

C...
Jan 22, 2008

Tootin the Doom Flute has led the Kingdom of Ankist into a new age of illumination. Every morning, people wake up and open palm slam a woodwind instrument into their mouth. It is the Doom Flute and right then and there they start playing the notes. They play every note, and they play every note hard

Ahh, the old 'hand up the sleeve' technique. Devious!

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
We've talked about "dolls don't bleed" being a lovely twist to spring on us, but someone mentioned prosthetic/robotic limbs and Komaeda having those would track as a way to involve the same idea. He's the kind of manipulative shithead who'd use that sort of strategy.

HydroSphere
Feb 11, 2014





"The Dummies and Komaeda... That combined group of seven would appear to contain one human!"

"I got no drat clue...! Is it Ranmaru or what?!"

"U-Uh, hey... I replaced my hand, remember? No way I'm human."

"...Being able to take your hand off doesn't necessarily mean you're a doll."

"But... getting a hole that big in your stomach... Kurumada's gotta be a doll, huh..."

"Hey, hey! Do you think there's cases where someone doesn't even realize they're human?!"

"We all saw our deaths in the victim videos... It's hard to imagine a human mixing in..."

Extract statement from Hayasaka.

"We all saw our deaths in the victim videos... It's hard to imagine a human mixing in..."

"You saw them too, didn't you? Everyone pictured in those definitely died..."

"Unfortunate as that is..."

Extract statement from Anzu.

"Hey, hey! Do you think there's cases where someone doesn't even realize they're human?!"

"It's possible they wouldn't be aware, right?!"

"And I'm no exception! Maybe I could be a human?!"

Extract statement from Mai.

"But... getting a hole that big in your stomach... Kurumada's gotta be a doll, huh..."

"If he were human, that'd be way too big of a tummyache! He'd die!"



"Is that really true...? He doesn't have a tummy to ache..."

"Quit it with the dark comedy, Sara!"

Extract statement from Kurumada.

"I got no drat clue...! Is it Ranmaru or what?!"

"'Cause, y'know... he seemed pretty human, right?!"

"Can't think of any reasons besides that..."

Extract statement from Hinako.

"...Being able to take your hand off doesn't necessarily mean you're a doll. Komaeda's hand came off, too..."

"But that could've been a prop to make it look like he was a doll."

(A prop? Hmm...)

"So are you thinking that Komaeda is the human, Hinako?"

"I can't say that for sure yet..."

"But... just remember this."

"Komaeda is with the organization... He can freely use everything in this facility."

"...There's no such thing as "impossible."”

Extract statement from Ranmaru.

"U-Uh, hey... I replaced my hand, remember? No way I'm human."

"And I sprayed steam! I've got zero human qualities!



"Urgh..."

"A... Actually..."

"The finger you found me earlier... was a stun gun Upgrade Part."

(I see... And he used that on me...)

"Look, I'm sorry, Sara...!"

Extract statement from Alice.

"The Dummies and Komaeda... That combined group of seven would appear to contain one human!"

"The Coffin Control System has it all color-coded. Blue: human, red: doll, yellow: vacant..."

"And Blue 1, Red 6, Yellow 0... If those were the contents when the game began..."

"No doubt... one human is among themmmmm!!"

Show ID card to Hinako.

Music stops.



"Hinako... I'm not so sure about that."

"About what...?"

"If Komaeda can freely use all the machines in the facility... Why would he need to make an ID card...?"



"W-Well..."

"I mean... maybe he didn't necessarily need it?"

"He probably went and prepared one so that we could beat his challenges... right?"

"No doubt he could use a face scanner or something instead of needing that thing."

"We never saw no devices like that!"

"All we saw was the ID card scanner and the fingerprint scanner..."

"That's right. Even if Komaeda's with the organization..."

"There were machines he couldn't mess with without a registered card."

"A-A registered card...?"

"Then why were Mai's fingerprints registered?"

".........."

"Eh...?"





"That's wrong! Mai ain't with the organization!!"

"Stop letting your emotions do the talking, you wrestling old-timer..."

"Don't call muscle gorilla names, meow!!"

"E-Everybody calm down! We can't be looking for villains...!"

"Whaddya expect?! If they're suspicious, they've got a high chance of being the human!"

"I wish I didn't have to be castin' doubt on my allies, either...!"

"Kurumada..."

"…"

"All right, fine..."

"Then I want you to prove it yourselves..."

"That I'm your ally...!!"






"I always thought it was strange how Mai was the only one to pass the fingerprint scan..."

"Even I don't know why my fingerprints were registered! I swear it's true...!"

"And also, Mai's final moments were clearly recorded in her victim video..."



"It is kinda scary how she puts on an act... But Mai couldn't be a full-on villain...!"

"Mai had the belief she was a doll, which is why she stabbed Q-taro!"

"The fingerprint thing's a whim of Komaeda's! No point thinking about it...!"

Extract statement from Ranmaru.

"It is kinda scary how she puts on an act... But Mai couldn't be a full-on villain...!"

"I'm sure her not killing Q-taro then..."

"Was because her heart resisted...!"

"The kind part of her!"

Extract statement from Hinako.

"...It's all fake. Her attitude's an act, too. Maybe her role was to move the Death Game forward..."

"That's who Mai really is! Happily ever after, not!"

"Hinako..."

"I know! What I'm saying is absurd!"

"So show some proof to deny it...!"

Extract statement from Kurumada.

"The fingerprint thing's a whim of Komaeda's! No point thinking about it...!"

"Komaeda must've just registered Mai's fingerprints as a sick joke!"

Extract statement from Mai.

"Even I don't know why my fingerprints were registered! I swear it's true...!"

"Honestly... I just thought it was a lucky break!"

"If I were hiding something, I'm sure I'd have a better excuse than this!"



"Do you have any ideas why? Like you put on a finger part, or...!"

"Ooooooghhh...!!"

"I really... don't..."

"I haven't attached any shady parts... I've just been regular old me the whole time!"

(M-Mai...!)

Extract statement from Anzu.

"Mai had the belief she was a doll, which is why she stabbed Q-taro!"

"She was just afraid of what Komaeda said!"

"So she's not a villain or anything, right?!"

Extract statement from Hayasaka.

"And also, Mai's final moments were clearly recorded in her victim video..."

"I couldn't imagine it was a fake video...!"

"If you saw it too, then don't you remember?"

"Mai was holding two guns pointed at her head... Her face pale... her gloved hands trembling..."

"It was just too cruel...!"

Extract statement from Kanna.

"I always thought it was strange how Mai was the only one to pass the fingerprint scan..."

"But I don't think it's good to decide she's with the organization because of that..."

Conflict Mai against Hayasaka.

Music stops.

"Um... Can I have a second?"

"Are we sure Mai never attached any Upgrade Parts...?"

"Urghh...!"

"I didn't... I mean, that's scary..."

"Then it's strange..."

"The Dummies have to look the same as their original human selves, right?"

"But comparing with the victim video..."



".........."

"...Huh...?"

(It's true... In the video we saw...)





"Now that you mention it, why was I gloveless from the start...? They're my favorite..."

"Did they just forget to give me them?"

"They're surely not ones to take half-measures..."

"Huh?"

"I suppose that must mean..."

"Her gloves were taken off to attach a part, perhaps?"

"Whaa...?! Someone went and attached something before I woke up?!"

"But... you could just put her gloves back on after attaching it, right?"

(True... That's strange.)



"Did the gloves... not fit...?"

"You mean the gloves shrank?!"

"No..."

Music stops.

"The opposite..."

"...Opposite?"

"You're saying it's because her hands got bigger...?"



"The hands that got attached to Mai...were bigger than her original hands."

"...?"

(I've come to an absurd conclusion... But it'd be consistent with the fingerprint scan...)

"Like the creation of Komaeda's ID card... This floor has been designed to suit the Floor Master, Komaeda. So then... It's natural that the fingerprint scanner would also be configured for Komaeda..."

"…"

"Eh...?"

"And Mai's hand, which she used for the fingerprint scan... Was bigger than her her original hand..."



"Then...!!"



"S-She had seaweed head's parts, meow?!"

"Not necessarily any old parts... We've discovered that blue means human, red means doll..."





"That means these hands...! These hands attached to me...!!"

Acerbatus
Jun 26, 2020

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Oh noooo

Poor Mai...

C...
Jan 22, 2008

Tootin the Doom Flute has led the Kingdom of Ankist into a new age of illumination. Every morning, people wake up and open palm slam a woodwind instrument into their mouth. It is the Doom Flute and right then and there they start playing the notes. They play every note, and they play every note hard
What?

What.

:suspense:

Doobeedoo
Oct 6, 2013

Trees and plants tend to grow on this Pokemon's back because it moves so little. It loves eating food while playing with tiny Pokemon.
T-that's certainly a twist. How'd they even do that?

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?
I take back all the doubt I ever had about this game. :suspense: :magical:

bawk
Mar 31, 2013

This mother fucker really saw that some other VN game pulled the "they're not an android. They have prosthetic arms" twist and hit that with the UNO reverse card :psyduck:

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
You people all have hands.

They are all...normal hands.

C...
Jan 22, 2008

Tootin the Doom Flute has led the Kingdom of Ankist into a new age of illumination. Every morning, people wake up and open palm slam a woodwind instrument into their mouth. It is the Doom Flute and right then and there they start playing the notes. They play every note, and they play every note hard

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

You people all have hands.

They are all...normal hands.

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.
This twist is gloriously silly.

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



So... we never were told if PEOPLE can go into the AI imprinting machine, were we? Because the only way I can see why Mai would have Komaeda's actual human hands is if she was uploaded over human-Komaeda (and presumably had work done on the face and body). Or prosthetics are advanced enough that they can sustain human limbs on lifeless bodies.

Or Komaeda is a really convincing actor and will pull off Mai's face and go "IT WAS ME, KOMAEDA, ALL ALONG!"

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
I want a papers please style minigame as Asunaro's HR director.

Elfface
Nov 14, 2010

Da-na-na-na-na-na-na
IRON JONAH
The Face/Off prequel Hand/Off wasn't nearly as exciting.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
Brave Little Equipment Manager to the rescue!

Mirello
Jan 29, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
is it just me or are some images missing in the previous update? like some of the bigger ones.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
And now I can't stop thinking about that one Seinfeld episode.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Mirello posted:

is it just me or are some images missing in the previous update? like some of the bigger ones.

They may have failed to load for you, the update looks fine to me.

Also I really like Hinako in this update. She's fully aware that she's throwing Mai to the wolves...and desperately pleads with Sara to prove her wrong. She doesn't want to believe it, but she can't hide what she's thinking either.

Kevin DuBrow
Apr 21, 2012

The uruk-hai defender has logged on.

Mirello posted:

is it just me or are some images missing in the previous update? like some of the bigger ones.

For the really long image posts this happens to me on mobile, I just refresh.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Blaze Dragon posted:

Also I really like Hinako in this update. She's fully aware that she's throwing Mai to the wolves...and desperately pleads with Sara to prove her wrong. She doesn't want to believe it, but she can't hide what she's thinking either.

I don't think even she really believes Mai is a bad guy either, but she's following the straightforward logic to its brutal conclusion and hoping the conflict can worm out the truth. She's definitely one of the smarter ones here.

whitehelm
Apr 20, 2008

Well of course...why do you think Komaeda needed (in case someone didn't play DR2)Junko's hands in DR2? Wait...

Jade Rider
May 11, 2007

All the pages have been censored except for "heck," and she misread that one.


whitehelm posted:

Well of course...why do you think Komaeda needed (in case someone didn't play DR2)Junko's hands in DR2? Wait...

It's hands all the way down.

blakelmenakle
Sep 1, 2007
AHEM! There's sand on my boots!
This brings new meaning to the term hand-me-downs.

HydroSphere
Feb 11, 2014







(I feel sorry for Mai, but...)

"It's possible that wasn't a fingerprint scanner... It might have been a blood tester, that pricked the finger..."

"You sayin' there's blood in there...?!"

"So Komaeda cut off his own hands to attach them to Mai...?!"

"And instead, he equipped a rocket punch! That would give us an explanation where Komaeda is human and Mai is a doll...!"

"That's... insane...!"

".........."

"...Horrible... Disgusting... So disgusting...!!"



Music stops.





"Aaahahahahaha!!"



"You were listening this whole time...?!"

"There's nothing funny about this!! I swear, I'm going to kill you...!!"

"Yes, yes! That's what the game is about!"

"Well? Won't you pick your first coffin already? I'm about to die of boredom!"

“Yes, that's right...! If we've reached a conclusion... we must choose!”



“Komaeda is an unbelievable man, able to cut off his own hands... He's a human, with blood flowing through him!! And... all six of the Dummies are dolls!”

(Which means... hmm...)




“But Komaeda is a human... So #9 won't be it!”

(...Which means...Huh?)

Music stops.

“So in the end... It's one in four?!”

“Wha...?! After all this discussion?!”

“If Gin and Komaeda are both human, then, like! There's no way to tell them apaaaaart?!”

“...Ooof...!!”

(N-No way...! Why has it come to this?!)

“...W-We just need to calm down!”

“................”

“Err... Our options are...”




“Say what...?!”

(There's nothing left to reason with...We have to think... and choose...)



(I absolutely can't choose wrong!!)





  • The risk of hitting Gin is too high.

(This one... We might choose Gin otherwise... I can't take such a risky bet. As long as we get through Komaeda's turn, I'm sure we'll still have a chance!)



“Ohh....! Well? Is it the right one?!”







“Wha...!”



"What in the heck?!"

"A drill pierced right on throooooguh!!"

"Too bad! You hit Hayasaka!"

"Say what?!"

"What happened to suit-and-specs, meow...?!"

"Hey! Suit-and-specs! Respond, woof!! What happened, meow?!"

"Hey...!! Hey..."



"I wish I could've seen it from outside..."

"You've gotta be kidding, Komaeda!! We didn't hear it would be like this!"

"Yeah, seriously! This is the first we heard that we'd be in danger...!!"

"You bastard...! This ain't what we were promised!! I want no part in this! Let us free already!!"

"...Ahem?"

"Is there some kind of problem...?"

"What...?!"

"The drill just pierced the contents, you know?"



"Victory is decided once me or Gin get hit...I haven't lied about anything."

"You...!!"

"Gettin' mucked up by a big drill like that leaves no trace of 'em...!"

"We can't bring 'em back like that!!"

"Relax."

Music stops.









Extract statement from Komaeda

"Once I get him in one, it'll already be over."

"...Quit joking around already."

"Huh...? Are you mad?"



"...!!"

"Now then, back to Gin's location... It's as much a game of luck for me as well."

"My favorite number is 0, but that isn't here, so..."

"Where shall I use a hint...?"

"..............."

"You've got pretty eyes..."



"Ahaha! What a unique response!"

"Alrighty! I'll go with #1! That's my lucky number of the day!"

"Miss Sara! Could you press the lamp on #1 for me?"

  • Won't. :colbert:



"Hey now, missy, no cheating!"

"I'll be watching to make sure you do as Komaeda says."

(Seems I can't deceive him here...)

  • Fine.



Music stops.

I summoned my resolve...and pressed the lamp.



(It lit up... blue...)

“Doesn't blue... mean human?!”

“Then...!!”

"It would be Gin or Komaeda...?!"

"Eh...?"

"H... Hold on a sec, meow!!"

"A... A blue showed up already, woof?!"

"Ahaha! What are you so surprised about?"

"Going by your reasoning, there are already only three choices, right?"

"Of course it's likely for it to come up..."

"In fact, shouldn't you be happy your reasoning was correct?"

“I guess, but...!!”

"Haha..."

"...Were you not prepared?"

"To lose Gin this quickly..."

"Don't tell me... You're gonna pick it?!"

"B... Big sis Sara..."

"It's okay, Gin...!!"

"Komaeda... There's no way you can choose that!"

"Hm...?"

"If you do, there's a 50% chance you die! You must be scared of death...!!"

"...Still making that claim?"

"Stop believing those convenient assumptions and look at reality."



"Then...!! Go ahead and pick it! The #1 coffin..."

".........."

"Okie-dokie! Meister, hit coffin #1!"

"Wha...!!"

"Roger that!"

"Big sis Sara...!!"

"Stop it! That's absurdity...!"

"You're going to decide your fate like this...?!"




"Ah... Ahh...!!"

"Big sis Saraaaaaa!!"

"Now then! Will we finish this so soon?!"

"Truly... this is fate being decided...!"





Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



Wut

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.
Really curious to see if this is played straight or if we're being railroaded into a false choice for the sake of Narrative.

Hypocrisy
Oct 4, 2006
Lord of Sarcasm

That's a bad look for the hint system assuming this isn't some mega fake out.

Komaeda isn't actually unflappable though so his perfect composure there makes me think that there was no risk to him.

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.
Maximum fuckery: Hinako is human, Komaeda is human, Gin is a doll and has been the whole time. Because why not.

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MarquiseMindfang
Jan 6, 2013

vriska (vriska)

King of Bleh posted:

Maximum fuckery: Hinako is human, Komaeda is human, Gin is a doll and has been the whole time. Because why not.

Komaeda can't be human now if the coffin control system's report from the start of the game is true.

Which means in addition to all the Komaedas we've "met", there's another actual real human one out there, dead or armless.

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