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Mano
Jul 11, 2012

God's name, it was a joke about becoming a sucker and the fact that you "suck" the air from the tank.

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Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

Yeah I find the moment I have a camera I go into 100% pokemon mode where every cool thing MUST BE CAPTURED to show people in the bar who don't care

Leandros
Dec 14, 2008

SuitcasePimp posted:

You could just put the Oceanic octo on there as a stopgap.... it probably works fine enough for octo purposes. I mean, test it of course before your buddy actually needs it and make sure it doesn't free flow. Or just go full FYGM and remove it, who are they anyway trying to take your air?

The Aqualung set hasn't arrived yet and was serviced 2 weeks ago, so I think it'll be fine. The Oceanic octopus cover is the one that fell to pieces, and I just found a thread elsewhere with people complaining about exactly that. A poster there also made a 3D printed cover, so I reached out to them and will try to print one. Wish me luck!

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Strategic Tea posted:

Yeah I find the moment I have a camera I go into 100% pokemon mode where every cool thing MUST BE CAPTURED to show people in the bar who don't care

That’s why I have an Instagram*

*that I haven’t posted dive pics on in years, because it’s been that long since I dove with a camera :smith: it’s all shorebirds and beach pics right now.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

I mostly take pictures of my dive mates because then at least the person in the picture will be happy.

Then they'll show those pictures to other people who don't care. :v:


But yeah most of the stuff I take under water ends up on a USB hard drive and never looked at.

Leandros
Dec 14, 2008

Leandros posted:

The Aqualung set hasn't arrived yet and was serviced 2 weeks ago, so I think it'll be fine. The Oceanic octopus cover is the one that fell to pieces, and I just found a thread elsewhere with people complaining about exactly that. A poster there also made a 3D printed cover, so I reached out to them and will try to print one. Wish me luck!

Aqualung just arrived, and the purge cover is cracked here too :v: but the plastic doesn't seem like a weird non-rubber elastic that will crumble, I think it just cracked under abuse. No biggie I think, but the 2nd stage does allow for breathing (albeit with some difficulty) while not pressurised. I removed the diaphragm cover and the diaphragm seems to be incorrectly installed/dislodged (on the right):

Is this something I can fix myself? Considering this diaphragm is held in place by this weird combed ring, I assume it's a bit less trivial than the Oceanic one.

lord1234
Oct 1, 2008
This is a bad idea. Are you seriously considering servicing a piece of life support equipment as a brand new diver? I can't even fathom this thought.

But seriously, you got some cheap Regs. And don't be surprised they are crap. Scuba is not cheap. Go buy some better regs. If you can't afford it scuba might not be for you.

DeadlyMuffin
Jul 3, 2007


Used regulators serviced by someone who knows what they're doing are perfectly safe. Don't mess with them yourself unless you're trained for it.

I wouldn't do anything more complicated than swap hoses and I've been diving a long time.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Your regs, tanks, and BCD are life support equipment. Treat them like it.

I keep a Google sheets log for my gear and MrsYenko’s gear. Date serviced, next date due, and a great big go/no-go indicator for each of us. Currently red, because we’re lame and have no time.

If you have a genuine need to learn to service your own gear (remote site diving, etc,) ask your instructor or dive shop if anyone is offering a gear maintenance course. PADI offers one that I wouldn’t trust personally, but it’s better than nothing at all.

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

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Fallen Rib

MrYenko posted:

Your regs, tanks, and BCD are life support equipment. Treat them like it.

I keep a Google sheets log for my gear and MrsYenko’s gear. Date serviced, next date due, and a great big go/no-go indicator for each of us. Currently red, because we’re lame and have no time.

If you have a genuine need to learn to service your own gear (remote site diving, etc,) ask your instructor or dive shop if anyone is offering a gear maintenance course. PADI offers one that I wouldn’t trust personally, but it’s better than nothing at all.

Agreed. It's literal life support equipment. The repairs and maintenance are actually very easy to perform if you have the right tools and training. I've done my share of rebuilding poo poo that's much more complicated and finicky. I worked on underwater robotics for a decade, and build deep sea cameras/oceanographic systems for a living. I have a huge shop filled with every tool imaginable. I'm an avid DIY'er. I've watched my SCUBA tech work on my gear. It's not hard, certainly not for the very basic Sherwood stuff I dive.

Guess what? I don't service my regs. It's cheap insurance to have the shop rebuild them every year (if we're going diving).

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



sharkytm posted:

the right tools and training.

The OSHA thread is full of people posting pics of others that had maybe one of these things, but probably not.

If you’re only doing it for yourself, it’s not worth the 1 or 2 practices you get every year on your own regs. The training programs + experience of tearing down and rebuilding hundreds (probably not an exaggeration) of regs for an active shop can’t be easily quantified, but paying some dollars gets you that experience.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Icon Of Sin posted:

If you’re only doing it for yourself, it’s not worth the 1 or 2 practices you get every year on your own regs. The training programs + experience of tearing down and rebuilding hundreds (probably not an exaggeration) of regs for an active shop can’t be easily quantified, but paying some dollars gets you that experience.

It’s not even a lot of dollars. I think my shop charges $25 plus parts for regs, and the same for a BCD cleaning/inspection.

Ropes4u
May 2, 2009

Icon Of Sin posted:

The OSHA thread is full of people posting pics of others that had maybe one of these things, but probably not.

There is an osha thread?

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Ropes4u posted:

There is an osha thread?

1087 pages right now, and it’s the 4th iteration.

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3904642&perpage=40&noseen=1&pagenumber=1087

e: probably the best thread in GBS (no irony). People from across all sorts of industries talking about fuckups in their industries, and how to not become one of those fuckups.

Also, the truckfucklers gang tag was born there :laffo:

Icon Of Sin fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Oct 3, 2021

Leandros
Dec 14, 2008

Relax goons, as I said, I didn't feel comfortable doing it myself. I went to a shop and the dude just unscrewed the retaining ring by hand, reseated the diaphragm and fastened everything again. Checked it for leaks and all is well. It's not like I would've opened up the first stage or hosed around with the other components, but these steps aren't very complicated.

let it mellow
Jun 1, 2000

Dinosaur Gum

lord1234 posted:

This is a bad idea. Are you seriously considering servicing a piece of life support equipment as a brand new diver? I can't even fathom this thought.

But seriously, you got some cheap Regs. And don't be surprised they are crap. Scuba is not cheap. Go buy some better regs. If you can't afford it scuba might not be for you.

This is 💯 accurate.

Ropes4u
May 2, 2009

Just got back from two weeks in Bonaire, felt good to be back in the water with the fishes.

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

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Ropes4u posted:

Just got back from two weeks in Bonaire, felt good to be back in the water with the fishes.

We were there 2 years ago. Everything has changed so much in our lives that it feels like a lifetime ago. I'm glad you enjoyed it!

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



I’m looking to go back at some point, when COVID is less stupid ( :smith: ) and I can wrangle a group to go back with.

I haven’t been on a dive boat in nearly 2 years, even thinking of one brings me back to being seasick all over again. It’s all shore diving for me, for now.

Ropes4u
May 2, 2009

We are headed back in May/June for another trip. It’s a beautiful place to dive but I think we have decided to skip moving there and instead visit for 3-12 month trips in retirement, maybe work there for a year to complete an internship.

let it mellow
Jun 1, 2000

Dinosaur Gum
We’re about to go to Cozumel which is dumb given that we only dive in the Caribbean and at home but I do want a toadfish picture so gently caress it.

Ropes4u
May 2, 2009

let it mellow posted:

We’re about to go to Cozumel which is dumb given that we only dive in the Caribbean and at home but I do want a toadfish picture so gently caress it.

What is dumb about going to Cozumel?

let it mellow
Jun 1, 2000

Dinosaur Gum

Ropes4u posted:

What is dumb about going to Cozumel?

It’s a cruise ship port. We usually don’t do that kind of thing but it’s an easy flight so here we go. I am looking forward to finding toadfish!

Ropes4u
May 2, 2009

let it mellow posted:

It’s a cruise ship port. We usually don’t do that kind of thing but it’s an easy flight so here we go. I am looking forward to finding toadfish!

A friend loves it there, we are firmly in the Bonaire shore diving crowd and struggling to go anywhere else. I have committed to looking for a live aboard but to be honest the prices are scaring me away.

let it mellow
Jun 1, 2000

Dinosaur Gum

Ropes4u posted:

A friend loves it there, we are firmly in the Bonaire shore diving crowd and struggling to go anywhere else. I have committed to looking for a live aboard but to be honest the prices are scaring me away.

The diving was really good, but concentrated near the Iberostsr resort. Lots of boats, lots of divers in the same reefs. Great visibility, very healthy reefs, we even found an octopus during day dives. Bonaire is still way better.

If you want another option, it’s expensive but awesome, check out Turks & Caicos and Aqua TCI. We’re friends with the owners, but be warned - they mostly dive west Caicos which is a serious haul from their dock.

Edit: I mentioned the octopus but overall the dives were more reef and macro stuff (nudibranch, fire worms, etc), smaller pelagic schools, and a few spotted eagle rays which were also awesome.

let it mellow fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Dec 11, 2021

Ropes4u
May 2, 2009

let it mellow posted:


If you want another option, it’s expensive but awesome, check out Turks & Caicos and Aqua TCI. We’re friends with the owners, but be warned - they mostly dive west Caicos which is a serious haul from their dock.

Thank you we will check it out, we are headed back to Bonaire for two weeks in May / June

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Other than the convenience of shore dives, what is the best part of Bonaire diving in terms of what you can see? Healthy/diverse reefs, macro life (nudis), pelagics, wrecks, or just lots of cool fish?

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



There’s a single wreck I dove on last I was there (the Hilma Hooker), other than that it’s a lot of reef diving with a large variety of both corals and animals. We had a young green sea turtle escort us back to shore one day ( :kimchi: ), lots of morays, occasional lionfish (report these to your resort, hopefully someone can go find it/stab it), reef squids that want to have a staring contest, nudis, I found a bearded fireworm out there, piles of moray species, and more coral species than I’ll ever know.

I heard stony coral tissue loss disease had finally made it’s way down there, any word on how bad it is yet? Figures that it originated off of the FL coast :(

e: my pics from my trip there, Oct 2019 (in the before-times).

Icon Of Sin posted:

More pics from Bonaire!

Potentially my best selfie so far:


Turtle-friend, from before:


Another green sea turtle-friend:


I think this is a speckled (or spotted?) moray:



Maze coral:



An inverted filefish, scraping coral for food:



The next 3 are a set. They're all from inside/near a shipwreck called the Hilma Hooker, on the south end of the island. The ship itself is rolled over hard on its port side. It was a drug boat that was impounded by the local government, then it rusted to the point of being too much to restore, then they sank it as an artificial reef (so the story goes).

The corridor I'm in right here, the right hand side was the deck when this ship was upright.



This is looking up (now) but this hallway used to connect the hallway in the previous pic to the hallway next to it. I think this was the ship's bridge, or at least that area?



Looking at the prop/rudder.



I think this is some kind of glassy sponge, but I'm mostly clueless when it comes to invertebrate life underwater.



A french angelfish, giving some mean side-eye:



A deer A foureye butterflyfish acting like a deer caught in the headlights:



This coral enchanted me for some reason. I saw a ton of it, which made me happy too :) M. aliciae, which makes sense because the first dive site I noticed at is called "Alice in Wonderland" :v:



A porcupinefish (puffer relative). Probably between 1-1.5ft long.



This one is a honeycomb trunkfish. They always look so grumpy :3:



A smooth trunkfish. Apparently these guys are toxic to touch? Idk, I don't touch marine life if I can help it.



A stoplight parrotfish. Their intermediate phase is red with random white scales, then they turn into this:



This is a carribbean reef squid. I got inked at by one of these guys, then it decided it was curious and wanted to have a closer look at all these weird bubble breathers.



When you're out on a dive and something green bites your thigh...THAT'S A MORAY :suicide:



Icon Of Sin fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Dec 13, 2021

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Icon Of Sin posted:

There’s a single wreck I dove on last I was there (the Hilma Hooker), other than that it’s a lot of reef diving with a large variety of both corals and animals. We had a young green sea turtle escort us back to shore one day ( :kimchi: ), lots of morays, occasional lionfish (report these to your resort, hopefully someone can go find it/stab it), reef squids that want to have a staring contest, nudis, I found a bearded fireworm out there, piles of moray species, and more coral species than I’ll ever know.

I heard stony coral tissue loss disease had finally made it’s way down there, any word on how bad it is yet? Figures that it originated off of the FL coast :(

e: my pics from my trip there, Oct 2019 (in the before-times).

Great pictures, thanks. gives me a better idea of the place.

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

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Fallen Rib

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

Other than the convenience of shore dives, what is the best part of Bonaire diving in terms of what you can see? Healthy/diverse reefs, macro life (nudis), pelagics, wrecks, or just lots of cool fish?

It's the laid back nature of the island, the lack of big boat charters, the general cadence of shore diving with so many sites so close, and the well-protected reefs. I'd go back in a heartbeat.

Ropes4u
May 2, 2009

Ramrod Hotshot posted:

Other than the convenience of shore dives, what is the best part of Bonaire diving in terms of what you can see? Healthy/diverse reefs, macro life (nudis), pelagics, wrecks, or just lots of cool fish?

Tropical fish, turtles, rays, and sea horse. I live by a work calendar so we go for the laid back diving. I would argue the reefs are declining but I suppose that is true anywhere you have people.

Trivia
Feb 8, 2006

I'm an obtuse man,
so I'll try to be oblique.
"Convenience of shore dives" doesn't quite describe what you're getting, I feel. What that really means is the absolute freedom to go where you want, when you want, and to do in the water what you will. For you the customer, you are actively exploring. You're not following some guide who safely shows you where to go; instead you get the joy of pure discovery.

I can't speak for everyone of course, but in the past I've had the pleasure to take fellow dive instructors (some with over 1,000 dives!) on their first ever "non-guided" dives. Dives that are just shore dives, under some pier, at a max depth of maybe 15 meters. We literally found a place that looked cool and said "let's dive there." It sounds lame until you do it. It just feels...different.

Trivia fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Dec 13, 2021

sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

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Fallen Rib

Trivia posted:

"Convenience of shore dives" doesn't quite describe what you're getting, I feel. What that really means is the absolute freedom to go where you want, when you want, and to do in the water what you will. For you the customer, you are actively exploring. You're not following some guide who safely shows you where to go; instead you get the joy of pure discovery.

I can't speak for everyone of course, but in the past I've had the pleasure to take fellow dive instructors (some with over 1,000 dives!) on their first ever "non-guided" dives. Dives that are just shore dives, under some pier, at a max depth of maybe 15 meters. We literally found a place that looked cool and said "let's dive there." It sounds lame until you do it. It just feels...different.

Agreed. It's complete freedom.

Ramrod Hotshot
May 30, 2003

Awesome. Goonmeet in Bonaire? lol

I'm going to buy my first dive computer. I want a watch set up rather than console. What else should I be looking for? Any recommendations?

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



I loved my Oceanic Geo 2, but had to give it back since it belonged to my work :cry:. I think they’re up to a Geo 4 now, but I’ve barely been in the water since the pandemic started so I’m not too sure anymore. I have an OCi and and Veo 2, but the OCi is on the 3rd iteration of getting sent back (compass won’t calibrate, and depth gauge was being weird last I had it underwater).

Just make sure it’s comfy for you (as a normal watch, or around your wrist on the outside of your wetsuit) and something with a backlight. I think that’s mostly standard now, but some older computers (my old Zoop comes to mind) you needed a flashlight to “charge” whatever the phosphorescent stuff was so you could read it in the dark. May not be a really a big problem for you, but your buddy may not like your flashlight going every which way every time you want to check your computer :v:

Trivia
Feb 8, 2006

I'm an obtuse man,
so I'll try to be oblique.
Oceanic Geo 2 is the bees' knees. I've had mine for about 8 years now and the only failure is the backlight. The Aqualung i200C (or model similar) is about as close to the Geo 2 as I've seen (I've not seen Geo 4s). The i200 has Bluetooth integration which is kinda neat but really is more of a gimmick. The Geo 2's best feature is the algorithms available to it (I think some of them are now discontinued for being too dangerous). My first dive of the day gives me a TON of bottom time, even at 30 meters. A bit dangerous for sure. I'm not sure what local prices are, but here i200s run ~$450 US equivalent.

The cheaper models are the Aqua Lung i300 and the Suunto Zoop. I think those go for ~$200-300 US equivalent. They're very basic and conservative, but they get the job done and are ideal for holiday divers. They're bulky though so don't have that "cool" wristwatch look.

There's also the Suunto D-series. They're pretty expensive and more for hardcore hobbyists. Not really worth it imo. The integrated compass on some of them is p cool though.

Then there are the laughable Garmin and Shearwater brands. I hope you hate money.

edit: Best piece of advice I can give is to get a computer that allows you to change the battery yourself. Some of them require sending to a dealer.

Trivia fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Dec 15, 2021

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

There’s also the Suunto Vyper, which is basically a more full-featured Zoop. MrsYenko has an Oceanic Geo 2, and it’s a fantastic computer, but I cannot loving stand the display or the UI. Suunto’s computer is a bit more conservative, but has a much easier to read display, and friendlier UI.

DeadlyMuffin
Jul 3, 2007


Trivia posted:

Then there are the laughable Garmin and Shearwater brands. I hope you hate money.

Shearwater Peregrine is my dive computer recommendation for folk who ask me :-)

The problem is it's $500. It does everything else you'll ever need if you aren't planning on trimix, up to and including multiple gasses and switching between them.

The screen is large, extremely readable, and the layout can be customized. Large and readable really really matters for murky cold water. I believe you charge it inductively (I have a perdix because I do occasionally use trimix and I'd like to do more in the future, and it has a replaceable battery, but it's closer to $850)

Not the right choice for everyone, but not worth dismissing out of hand imo.

Trivia
Feb 8, 2006

I'm an obtuse man,
so I'll try to be oblique.
Oh they are a quality product no doubt. Just not really something most recreational fun divers would need.

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DeadlyMuffin
Jul 3, 2007


It depends on your definition of recreational fun diver :-)

Around here that can mean someone who dives every month or so. If you're talking about someone who dives on vacation once every couple years, I agree.

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