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does synology have anything that can make use of 10GbE yet? I haven't looked into this at all but I've seen folks build NAS' with NVMe drives and 10Gb Ethernet cards and I was wondering how fast those things can get.
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Yep the big bois have a pcie slot and you can throw a 10gig card in no problemo and thats with platters i think e: fun topic i'm actually migrating most of my dockers off my synology because i need to justify runnin this fuckin separate server i set up. so now all my poo poo's on the skylake box and it talks smb to the nas for all its file dumps Jonny 290 fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Oct 3, 2021 |
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Oct 3, 2021 22:52
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I'll check out synology then. Thanks folks. 
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Oct 3, 2021 23:29
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yep yep. here's the next-year update of mine https://www.synology.com/en-us/products/DS920+ you get 4 bays, 2 ssd cache slots, and it comes with 4g standard in a SODIMM slot, with a second one free. i bought one $29 8gb sodimm to bump it to 12 gigs ram total. love my little archive box
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Oct 3, 2021 23:43
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50a linear? i wanna know how much that power supply warms up the place when its loaded
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Oct 3, 2021 23:58
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Base Emitter posted:50a linear? i wanna know how much that power supply warms up the place when its loaded they're almost exactly 50% efficient soooooo at full honk it's a space heater on low. but still not a fan on it lol
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Oct 4, 2021 00:04
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Jonny 290 posted:so now all my poo poo's on the skylake box and it talks smb to the nas for all its file dumps fwiw i went with nfs and so far it's worked real well, e.g. my rpi k8s cluster can use the nfs mounts as persistent volumes and i assume it's running in kernel mode so probably real efficient, which per above is pretty much the main concern on account of the underpowered cpu on the ds413 but that said it probably doesn't work with windows so that probably overrides everything i said if thats a factor
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i wont gently caress with nfs because i dont understand the uid/gid mapping and the numbers are different on both sides and i just don't want to gently caress with it but also won't use squash
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Can they do client backups? (In the real sense, not just file sync) What about running the crash plan client? I've been through WHS and now WSSE and this thing is going to be EoL in a bit and Essentials isn't a thing anymore.
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i'm not sure what you mean actually in 2021 people that insist on crashplan are running a small windows VM (which the + synology boxes can do, albeit gruntingly). people seem to hate crashplan these days syno supports any sort of smb/nfs file copying out of the box and rsync as well.
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Jonny 290 posted:i'm not sure what you mean actually 2 things. Crashplan client is one. I'm on them because up until last week that had unlimited retention of deleted files and previous file versions - now I'm on them because of sunk cost fallacy reasons related to uploads. I have a bunch of PCs in my house that I want to backup. With WHS (or Server Essentials) this is stupid easy. They wake up nightly and do differential backups (that are deduped on the server). If a machine ever dies, you just boot to a restore thing and hit a button and it's all back how you left it. I was just wondering if anyone had experience doing something like that with synology. I'm guessing that it would take buying something (Veem?).
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Ah, gotcha. Yeah i'm basically slumming it on my setup - the macs do backup via time machine target, but i have boring rsync set up on my linux and windows boxes so i'm not really that keyed in. that being said the syno community is large enough there's a much larger selection of plugins and addons that may fit your needs than about any other brand barring like dell poweredge dorks that live with a house full of screaming 60mm fans in a bunch of ebay deal 1u's
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Jonny 290 posted:Ah, gotcha. Yeah i'm basically slumming it on my setup - the macs do backup via time machine target, but i have boring rsync set up on my linux and windows boxes so i'm not really that keyed in. that being said the syno community is large enough there's a much larger selection of plugins and addons that may fit your needs than about any other brand barring like dell poweredge dorks that live with a house full of screaming 60mm fans in a bunch of ebay deal 1u's Cool thanks - my project is basically trying to keep this from becoming an ongoing project.
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In 2014 I set up a Xeon server with VMware ESXi running FreeNAS as one VM (with the raid controller passed through to that VM) and another VM for all Ubuntu and docker stuff. Has also been rock solid all that time. Had to replace a failed drive in the ZFS pool once but that too went swimmingly.
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Sagacity posted:In 2014 I set up a Xeon server with VMware ESXi running FreeNAS as one VM (with the raid controller passed through to that VM) and another VM for all Ubuntu and docker stuff. Has also been rock solid all that time. Had to replace a failed drive in the ZFS pool once but that too went swimmingly. why didn't you just install FreeNAS in an OS on the server instead of putting a hypervisor in the middle?
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Depending on your hardware, VMware sometimes have better drivers than Linux or FreeBSD. My old AMD FX “server” was unreliable with Linux but rock solid with vSphere for some reason. And if you janitor VMware at work it’s nice to have a lab environment at home I guess.
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yeah true.dat. btw, cross-posting from grey forums, may be relevant to those of ya'll who run ESXi on home servers:Thanks Ants posted:VMware are discontinuing support for running the hypervisor from only SD cards and USB sticks. You'll need good local disk as well, at which point the SD card adds no value. i personally am discontinuing my old IBM x3550 M2 server (dual Xeon X5570 CPUs, 128GB RAM, 4x500GB 2.5" SAS HDDs) because it can't run anything past ESXi 6.5 as they discontinued support for the CPUs. gonna move whatever poo poo i actually need to my new stupidly insane QNAP NAS.
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I got to do a bunch of network programming on System 7 to get my HTTP downloader program going and I hate network programming
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Pile Of Garbage posted:why didn't you just install FreeNAS in an OS on the server instead of putting a hypervisor in the middle? Also, Docker and other containerization wasn't really widespread at that time so I figured having VMware in between would allow me to mess up virtual machines without too much risk. And mess them up I definitely did, so it was really handy to just be able to throw out a VM and reinstall a new one.
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spankmeister posted:does synology have anything that can make use of 10GbE yet? I haven't looked into this at all but I've seen folks build NAS' with NVMe drives and 10Gb Ethernet cards and I was wondering how fast those things can get.
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Finally set up pihole and my lovely phone is so much faster. apparently half my cpu time / ram was taken up with sending tracking data and loading ads. gently caress you google
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AnimeIsTrash posted:I am thinking about getting a NAS or if I can't find I like turning my PI into one, is there one that you all like? insert my raving about how you should use an HP ProLiant DL380 for this if you’re thinking of using a Pi at all for storage, you’ll be far better off using a recent-model off-lease server, and you’re only looking at a few hundred bucks for impressive features and bandwidth and if you’re thinking of running applications on your NAS it’s a much, much better platform (since you can get dozens of cores, tens to hundreds of GB of RAM, and add PCIe accelerators as needed)
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assuming of course, you have already set up a solar power system and wont be idling with 200w of coal
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dumb q: where's a good place to buy lightly used servers?
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I just bought mine on eBay
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I've been to a datacenter or two and those DL380's are loud as gently caress. why would you want that in your house?
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they’re not that loud most of the time with the latest firmware
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A lot of data centers have CPU power saving disabled because VMware says it adds a bit of latency, setting “max power” in the bios usually means the fans run full tilt all the time too. If you fix that setting they can be as quiet as a desktop computer if they’re mostly idle. My dell r720 with quad core xeons is pretty quiet but the 720xd and md1200 disk shelf is obnoxiously loud so it lives in the garage.
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you can also take them out of the slim enclosures they're in and use any cooling you want one weird trick to make loud rear end servers quiet, data centers hate this!
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all of this sure sounds like the most convenient and expedient way to store your bits and bytes yes, might as well make it the official yospos-approved nas solution
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i mean if u got a basement or a garage or something go hog wild with your computing noises. i cant tolerate that poo poo here tho. 120's or 140's or gtfo
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I'm just gonna buy a DS920+ and not worry about it
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excellent choice
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is a synology a better solution than some sort of cloud thing u pay a sub for, i know this is the project thread just wondering about dollars
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eschaton posted:insert my raving about how you should use an HP ProLiant DL380 for this barkbell posted:is a synology a better solution than some sort of cloud thing u pay a sub for, i know this is the project thread just wondering about dollars spankmeister posted:I'm just gonna buy a DS920+ and not worry about it
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barkbell posted:is a synology a better solution than some sort of cloud thing u pay a sub for, i know this is the project thread just wondering about dollars i would never rely on cloud file storage unless i had symmetric gig with no cap having it in your back pocket is fine but as a primary? nah
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i got my souped-up 486* turned on for the first time in 230V-land today. i had thought i needed to find another AT power supply, and opened up the case to check what the dimensions were etc. then i noticed one of those 120/230V switches on one of the inside faces of the PSU - i'd previously assumed that it was 120V-only because i didn't know they'd hidden the switch. meanwhile the original 14" CRT monitor also works fine on 230V, it was a little confusing because the power spec label on the back of the monitor showed 100-240V 50-60hz but then there was a little sticker next to the power port that said "115V" on it. anyway it's running and everything in dos still works fine but for some reason win 3.11 for workgroups is stuck at the splash screen. but that's probably just a software/driver issue so whatever i'll get to it eventually now i'm thinking of trying an IDE/SATA adapter and using that to replace the 2GB PATA hard drive with an old SSD i have lying around. not really concerned with performance obviously but just want to remove the whine noise the HDD has and also switch to something that'll be much more reliable than an ancient 2GB harddrive that i had lying around. QUESTION 1: has anyone tried either this or this before? to be clear the machine is old enough that i will need to go into the bios and configure the number of cylinders/heads/sectors and i don't know how that'll work with an adapter. QUESTION 2: do those numbers matter given i'd be using an adapter+SSD, or is it just 'set them big enough to get the capacity you want'? *originally a 486SX-25 with 8MB ram (itself upgraded from 4MB stock), did some ebay shopping and now it's a 486DX2-66 with 32MB ram
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Progressive JPEG posted:i got my souped-up 486* turned on for the first time in 230V-land today. i had thought i needed to find another AT power supply, and opened up the case to check what the dimensions were etc. then i noticed one of those 120/230V switches on one of the inside faces of the PSU - i'd previously assumed that it was 120V-only because i didn't know they'd hidden the switch. meanwhile the original 14" CRT monitor also works fine on 230V, it was a little confusing because the power spec label on the back of the monitor showed 100-240V 50-60hz but then there was a little sticker next to the power port that said "115V" on it. I haven’t looked into SATA controllers yet, but I did find these 4GB flash modules that plug into the motherboard interface. Works fine so far. https://www.transcend-info.com/Embedded/Products/No-820
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Progressive JPEG posted:i got my souped-up 486* turned on for the first time in 230V-land today. i had thought i needed to find another AT power supply, and opened up the case to check what the dimensions were etc. then i noticed one of those 120/230V switches on one of the inside faces of the PSU - i'd previously assumed that it was 120V-only because i didn't know they'd hidden the switch. meanwhile the original 14" CRT monitor also works fine on 230V, it was a little confusing because the power spec label on the back of the monitor showed 100-240V 50-60hz but then there was a little sticker next to the power port that said "115V" on it. i blew up a computer in primary school by switching the PSU voltage selector switch from 240 to 110 whilst it was turned on. putting the switch on the inside makes sense lol
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fortunately a lot of new poo poo is smart enough that it doesn't give a gently caress, thats why a lot of power bricks have 90-240v input ratings
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