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tsob posted:Thanos with 3 infinity gems was also struggling with Tony Stark despite his own power being "nanomachines, son" and, more pertinently, with Dr. Strange. Who was using magic this episode to protect everyone else. So when Ultron with 5 gems tried to wipe everyone out much the way Thanos did, it didn't work. At which point, Thanos would have not only been stumped, but would probably have outright lost to several heroes like Carol or Thor, even with all the Stones in his hand, if snapping them out of existence didn't work. Thanos used the stones creatively while Ultron just did blasty blasty and energy beams. Literally used the time stone once and it failed.
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I mean the simplest answer is that Thanos knows how to fight and probably have been brawling for decades. Ultron may have raw power but even in the show he kinda sucks at punch em ups
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Oct 6, 2021 15:22
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I did like how we got some advancement with all the other stories from this season.
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Oct 6, 2021 15:38
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badjohny posted:I think he ate the energy of ultron trying to destroy the galaxy That makes sense, thanks.
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Oct 6, 2021 15:53
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Everyone posted:I did like how we got some advancement with all the other stories from this season. I really want to see the Tony on Sakaar one now.
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Oct 6, 2021 16:11
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Everyone posted:I did like how we got some advancement with all the other stories from this season. I might have been disappointed if they came out of the gate and said "there will be an overarching multiverse spanning plot" which was true, but not what they sold it as. As it is, the fact we got something that tied it all together worked as a nice surprise. I think they can build on this from here. Obviously there will be additional universes explored in future seasons but they've at least laid some groundwork to go from in the future not just that there's a multiverse, but that the heroes can and have moved between the universes. There's no way we've seen the last of Captain Carter, Party Thor, or hell probably Strange Supreme. This might be a concept where future seasons will be better because of the groundwork they've laid (and seeing what works and what doesn't), but I do kind of feel like it would benefit from being an hour show instead of 30 mins.
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Thundercracker posted:I mean the simplest answer is that Thanos knows how to fight and probably have been brawling for decades. Ultron may have raw power but even in the show he kinda sucks at punch em ups I always figured that the stones are ultimately limited by the device their used in. Like the Infinity Gauntlet is the perfect tool to rewrite the universe at will, but Hydra's WWII tech in the first Captain America could just use the space stone to fill guns with laser juice. So Vision's body with all six stones can move through multiverses and destroy planets easily, but still isn't as effective as the actual gauntlet.
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Oct 6, 2021 16:17
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Proteus Jones posted:This was a pretty good ending to the season. Wasn't perfect, but it was satisfactory overall. Something I kind of expected to happen at the end: I expected the oath to only watch and observe be revealed to a variant of Kang or the Council of Kangs and the Watcher having to go to trial, to tie everything together more.
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Liked it BUT a bit dissappointed my fan idea of Wanda zombie fighting Ultronvision was so short.  Still that was a good episode! I do wonder who is going to be the big baddie for next season. I'm not very super versed in the comics so I can't think of anything
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Oct 6, 2021 16:48
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That was a great episode, easily the best of the season.
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Oct 6, 2021 17:34
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Bit sad that Apocalypse Peter, Scott, and T'challa didn't show up. Like just a scene of them suddenly wondering where all the zombies went to.
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Oct 6, 2021 17:41
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Finale was fun, my only real complaint is that the missing episode hurt it a lot Honestly, Natasha has been done so much better in the last few episodes than ten years of the movies! I was wondering at the end if they were gonna plop alt-Widow into the main MCU but she's clearly better off anywhere else. I hope they bring her back for S2; they are almost certainly going to bring back Captain Carter for S2, so we could still see more of Zombies, post-Loki rule Earth, etc. Also was I the only one excited to see Georges St-Pierre in the opening credits lol? The animation for all of the fights were good this episode, but the Batroc/Peggy fight was really slick.
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Infinitum posted:Great ep, solid end to the season. I loved that, too! I wonder if they’ll rewrite any of the delayed episode to make up for the fact it’s out-of-sequence? This was a lot of fun, I really want a behind-the-scenes video because it sounded like the actors were enjoying themselves.
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I enjoyed it! But zombie Scarlet being so underused was a big letdown. I almost would have preferred if they were not included.
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I kept waiting for carter to bring up the fact that Strange keeps summoning the same tentacle monster she fought in episode 1 but I guess theyre saving that for season 2 Also this episode should have been called what if Infinite Ultron fought Strange Supreme ft. The Guardians of the Multiverse cause Strange did a lot of the heavy lifting during that fight
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Away all Goats posted:I kept waiting for carter to bring up the fact that Strange keeps summoning the same tentacle monster she fought in episode 1 but I guess theyre saving that for season 2 There was definitely a reaction shot of her when he summoned them. And outside of his bit at the end, what did Killmonger really do in the fight?
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Oct 6, 2021 20:45
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kazil posted:There was definitely a reaction shot of her when he summoned them. Killmonger stole the stones so that Arnim Zola didn't have them.
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tragedyjones posted:Killmonger stole the stones so that Arnim Zola didn't have them. Which is exactly what I meant by "his bit at the end" without being spoilery for an episode that just came out. I meant during the actual fight with Ultron
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tragedyjones posted:Killmonger stole the stones so that Arnim Zola didn't have them. That was his bit at the end. I didn't really see him play much of a part, honestly. I think he tried to Panther Claw Ultron a couple of times but that was pretty much it.
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Everyone posted:That was his bit at the end. I didn't really see him play much of a part, honestly. I think he tried to Panther Claw Ultron a couple of times but that was pretty much it. He was doing the same thing as Carter for most of the fight, hitting Ultron when he could and trying to keep Ultron distracted.
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Oh, my b. I just think he was stolen for his move there not for his ability to fight Ultron.
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tsob posted:Thanos with 3 infinity gems was also struggling with Tony Stark despite his own power being "nanomachines, son" and, more pertinently, with Dr. Strange. Who was using magic this episode to protect everyone else. So when Ultron with 5 gems tried to wipe everyone out much the way Thanos did, it didn't work. At which point, Thanos would have not only been stumped, but would probably have outright lost to several heroes like Carol or Thor, even with all the Stones in his hand, if snapping them out of existence didn't work. This Strange also spent centuries absorbing the energy of the nastiest monsters of his universe. And then he ate Ultron’s Galactus power too. And had his own Time Stone. He is much more powerful than regular MCU Strange in Infinity War.
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Zero One posted:This Strange also spent centuries absorbing the energy of the nastiest monsters of his universe. And then he ate Ultron’s Galactus power too. And had his own Time Stone. Ultron tried exploding the galaxy they were standing in and Strange absorbed it like he was swallowing a pill. He might actually be stronger than the Watcher at this point
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Zero One posted:This Strange also spent centuries absorbing the energy of the nastiest monsters of his universe. And then he ate Ultron’s Galactus power too. And had his own Time Stone. i was honestly surprised they went with that Strange also having a Time Stone, because it seems to open up the whole can of worms of "wouldn't Ultron be seeking out the Stones in other universes, if they're all just as powerful as the ones he has?"
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eke out posted:i was honestly surprised they went with that Strange also having a Time Stone, because it seems to open up the whole can of worms of "wouldn't Ultron be seeking out the Stones in other universes, if they're all just as powerful as the ones he has?" He's intelligent, but he's not smart.
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eke out posted:i was honestly surprised they went with that Strange also having a Time Stone, because it seems to open up the whole can of worms of "wouldn't Ultron be seeking out the Stones in other universes, if they're all just as powerful as the ones he has?" Just sitting around on a huge pile of infinity stones, all 
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also i wonder if there's an episode pushed back to season 2 with Gamora That Killed Thanos that would've explained the whole Stone Crusher (or whatever it was called) macguffin more, because the writing of this episode made it feel like they were re-introducing something we'd already seen earlier in the series
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eke out posted:also i wonder if there's an episode pushed back to season 2 with Gamora That Killed Thanos that would've explained the whole Stone Crusher (or whatever it was called) macguffin more, because the writing of this episode made it feel like they were re-introducing something we'd already seen earlier in the series It was already announced that there was indeed one episode pushed to season 2. And it's clearly that one.
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There's even a Lego kit of Sakaar armour Tony, so that's clearly an episode that was delayed. It's just weird that the finale featured a character apparently from that episode and we're not going to get their origin until next year some time because of the delay.
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Oct 6, 2021 22:37
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Can we change thread title to MCU TV: Not you Stark
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Zero One posted:I was fully expecting Steve to become the Winter Soldier. I'm glad to see this is probably the direction they are going.
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swickles posted:Can we change thread title to MCU TV: Not you, Stark
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Good episode overall but had a few misses here and there. Almost feels that if this was the direction they wanted to go, they should have pushed the finale back rather than the gamora and tony episodes and then expand the finale even more to give stuff like zombie wanda more time to shine. But then again the episode was good as was and god drat this Stephen loving rules. Dude is pretty much omnipotent at this point but also willing to play jailer and prisoner at the same time while also appreciating the power within him as both a blessing and a curse. Would like to see more of him as middleman to the Watcher where he can be more active
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Veotax posted:There's even a Lego kit of Sakaar armour Tony, so that's clearly an episode that was delayed. It's just weird that the finale featured a character apparently from that episode and we're not going to get their origin until next year some time because of the delay. It's a multiverse where different timelines exist too I'm sure they'll figure out a way to make it work in the context of a new season. If nothing else, a good rationalization is it shows you there's a lot more heroes he could pick from besides the ones you've seen throughout the season. He's watching a lot more than 8 universes. The randomness of hulkbuster stark and gamora melting down the infinity gauntlet is almost better without any setup. Nail Rat fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Oct 7, 2021 |
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I wanted to see Captain Carter eschew the dick measuring contest with Batroc and just take him out quickly with the shield.
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Oct 7, 2021 03:58
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Next season we need a “Oops, all Natashas” episode.
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Marsupial Ape posted:Next season we need a “Oops, all Natashas” episode. Yeah, they didn't do any multiples of the same character this time around. That seems like an easy place to go for next time.
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