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shoeberto
Jun 13, 2020

which way to the MACHINES?

The_Franz posted:

i'd believe "the google service that hosted my homework was shut down" far more than the old "my dog ate it"

lmao

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Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Fart Sandwiches posted:

my second year of college I took some computer class and the instructor was also the network admin (small school of 3000 peeps). he recognized my name and after the first day pulled me aside and said I accounted for about 30 percent of the entire school traffic because I was torrenting anime all day with many instance of the og BitTorrent client

I miss the old internet. it’s all boring now. or I’m just old and jaded

wait so you fired-up bittorrent clients on multiple different PCs to download different torrents?

e: just checking because if yes lol that owns, dedication. also funny tech poo poo: i remember it taking 7 hours to download windows XP SP1 via 56k. also i was one of the first kids in high-school to get 512k ADSL however i unfortunately did not have the wherewithal to take full advantage of it. thinking back i reckon if i had a CD burner at the time i prolly would have cornered the warez and piracy market (instead some other dude did but also not really, he would just give you CDs with games and stuff if you hung out with him, i didnt mind he was ok, also that's how i got starcraft, halflife+opposing force+blue shift+cs 1.3, baldur's gate 2 and FF8 for PC).

Pile Of Garbage fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Oct 7, 2021

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

shoeberto posted:

I dunno, the whole Chromebook-in-schools thing makes it so a lot of kids have no idea how files (or file systems) work at all, they can still probably get away with "I spent all night on it but now I can't find it on my Drive!"

this happens to me with files on my iphone

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



just copy the exe file and run it twice

or did that not work on pc? it did with hotline on macos 8 at least

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Pile Of Garbage posted:

wait so you fired-up bittorrent clients on multiple different PCs to download different torrents?

e: just checking because if yes lol that owns, dedication. also funny tech poo poo: i remember it taking 7 hours to download windows XP SP1 via 56k. also i was one of the first kids in high-school to get 512k ADSL however i unfortunately did not have the wherewithal to take full advantage of it. thinking back i reckon if i had a CD burner at the time i prolly would have cornered the warez and piracy market (instead some other dude did but also not really, he would just give you CDs with games and stuff if you hung out with him, i didnt mind he was ok, also that's how i got starcraft, halflife+opposing force+blue shift+cs 1.3, baldur's gate 2 and FF8 for PC).

no, the old BitTorrent client, the literal first release from the creator of BitTorrent could only download one torrent at a time. so if you wanted two, you had to open another instance and set the second instance off downloading your other torrent.

that’s my foggy memory of it anyway. torrent clients that could download multiple torrents in one client didn’t come till later and were a pretty big deal

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Jim Silly-Balls posted:

no, the old BitTorrent client, the literal first release from the creator of BitTorrent could only download one torrent at a time. so if you wanted two, you had to open another instance and set the second instance off downloading your other torrent.

that’s my foggy memory of it anyway. torrent clients that could download multiple torrents in one client didn’t come till later and were a pretty big deal

oh poo poo yeah now i get you. yeah iirc it was one torrent per process at the start.

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

Jim Silly-Balls posted:


this was also peak edgelord time at the height of BMEZine and rotten.com and whatnot so I also inadvertently stumbled on a lot of really gross hosed up poo poo :cry:

there was one image sharing site that was mostly memes and funny pics you could find by incrementing the number in the URL, but if you happened on a 404 you got a gory autopsy pic instead top view of a human skull with the brain removed :barf:

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

no, the old BitTorrent client, the literal first release from the creator of BitTorrent could only download one torrent at a time. so if you wanted two, you had to open another instance and set the second instance off downloading your other torrent.

that’s my foggy memory of it anyway. torrent clients that could download multiple torrents in one client didn’t come till later and were a pretty big deal

the og client really was a fantastic bit of software, to no small part because it didn't try to do all that much outside the core functionality. up there among the best one-man entirely original pieces of software of all time.

polyester concept
Mar 29, 2017

irpoweroutlet posted:

I had a semester long term paper due the next day, and I probably had it 75% complete. I took home 5 copies on separate multicolor translucent floppies. this was back in the early 2000’s when the quality of floppies was going down the shitter. they had something like a 50% failure rate.


Pile Of Garbage posted:

hah good times. i had a very similar experience. started high-school in '01 and a box of floppies was on the list of required stationery. i got a box of those multi-colour transparent ones as well that were dogshit unreliable


polyester concept posted:

i never got into any of the zip drives but last time i used a floppy disk was in 2003 when i had to get a resume printed at staples for a job interview in a couple hours, lol it was truly some dark times. the disk had a read error so i had to rush home and burn it onto a cd and i remember thinking it felt so wasteful. i didn't get the job either


why were they so bad tho

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



Pile Of Garbage posted:

wait so you fired-up bittorrent clients on multiple different PCs to download different torrents?

e: just checking because if yes lol that owns, dedication. also funny tech poo poo: i remember it taking 7 hours to download windows XP SP1 via 56k. also i was one of the first kids in high-school to get 512k ADSL however i unfortunately did not have the wherewithal to take full advantage of it. thinking back i reckon if i had a CD burner at the time i prolly would have cornered the warez and piracy market (instead some other dude did but also not really, he would just give you CDs with games and stuff if you hung out with him, i didnt mind he was ok, also that's how i got starcraft, halflife+opposing force+blue shift+cs 1.3, baldur's gate 2 and FF8 for PC).

for a hot minute i burned mix discs with a day turn-around so i had time to napster the songs on 56k. some other dude got a burner and we had a bit of a price war before i just stopped caring and got a cheap spindle and burned for friends for free, since it was a great way for me to find new music

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



polyester concept posted:

why were they so bad tho

same reason my memorex and tigerdirect cd-rs were bad: they're cheap trash, but as a student it's affordable

edit: in college, a lot of us started our own ftp servers to save projects back to our desktops on the dorm side. the cloud really is just someone else's computer

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

shoeberto posted:

I dunno, the whole Chromebook-in-schools thing makes it so a lot of kids have no idea how files (or file systems) work at all, they can still probably get away with "I spent all night on it but now I can't find it on my Drive!"

https://www.theverge.com/22684730/students-file-folder-directory-structure-education-gen-z

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

when I started college every single dorm hall and school building was on H U B S

loving HUBS, not switches.

it was the summer before my senior year when my college replaced the 10Mbps dorm hubs with 100Mbps switches

also along with it came a terribad attempt at packet shaping where any traffic outside the university that wasn't port 80/443 was given like 10Mbps shared across all residential users

i fished an old PC out of a dumpster behind the engineering school and talked a friend of mine in the CS department to let me plug it in under their desk, so i could run a SOCKS proxy on it and bypass the residential traffic rules

Agile Vector posted:

edit: in college, a lot of us started our own ftp servers to save projects back to our desktops on the dorm side. the cloud really is just someone else's computer

i remember all of us using remote desktop back to our dorm machines, running FCKGW windows xp pro

kitten smoothie fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Oct 7, 2021

Jimmy Carter
Nov 3, 2005

THIS MOTHERDUCKER
FLIES IN STYLE
in high school I once had a teacher who accepted my of "my computer broke last night" when I told them I had Windows ME.

crazysim
May 23, 2004
I AM SOOOOO GAY

kitten smoothie posted:

it was the summer before my senior year when my college replaced the 10Mbps dorm hubs with 100Mbps switches

also along with it came a terribad attempt at packet shaping where any traffic outside the university that wasn't port 80/443 was given like 10Mbps shared across all residential users

i fished an old PC out of a dumpster behind the engineering school and talked a friend of mine in the CS department to let me plug it in under their desk, so i could run a SOCKS proxy on it and bypass the residential traffic rules

i remember all of us using remote desktop back to our dorm machines, running FCKGW windows xp pro

All this talk about hubs, and nothing about direct connect hubs. The socks proxy thing was something I did too and oh my gosh, 100Mbit was very nice BW!

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

crazysim posted:

All this talk about hubs, and nothing about direct connect hubs. The socks proxy thing was something I did too and oh my gosh, 100Mbit was very nice BW!

i run a dc++ hub to this very day

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


I remember some guy bussing in his friends server full of all sorts of pirate stuff to connect up to the local network for one weekend only.

ofc it got slammed and nobody could download anything because the actually network speed was still bad but it was cool in theory

Fart Sandwiches
Apr 4, 2006

i never asked for this

Pile Of Garbage posted:

wait so you fired-up bittorrent clients on multiple different PCs to download different torrents?

e: just checking because if yes lol that owns, dedication.

sort of!

I had many instances of bt on my main computer but eventually I had an RA let me into empty rooms and I would re run their drops to my dorm to have extra lines for like my laptop and stuff. Xbox live had just launched and I had my own line for Xbox too

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001

never thought about it until now that it took a decade after i graduated from college before i again could get a 100Mbps internet connection where i lived. 15 years if you count upstream bandwidth.

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)

i definitely went to college more recently than a lot of posters so i had some early cloud services i was using even in high school. they are funy tech poo poo i just remembered:

- windows live skydrive, and the lawsuit from bskyb that got it renamed onedrive
- adobe had an online office suite, i think they acquired an online word processor called buzzword that was written entirely in flash.
- i actually used lala before it got acquired by apple and shut down. it took them literally almost a decade to produce a web-based music player again
- vague memories of storing some files on this thing called openomy in middle school, don't remember anything else

Shaggar
Apr 26, 2006
scour was rad as hell

obeyasia
Sep 21, 2004

Grimey Drawer
i went to one and only 1 lan party ever (i think), which took place in the rented gymnasium of a local YMCA, probably 2003-ish. hotbed of file sharing and some lan tournaments. lots of teenagers of course. LOTS of porn sharing, which is kinda hosed up in retrospect since maybe only 10% of the attendees werent teenagers.

my best friend at the time was a unreal tournament pro, so he didnt even have to play in the tournament. everyone else just competed for a chance to play him and if you beat him you won. he lost only because his piece of poo poo computer overheated and shut off twice in that hot rear end gym during the final match lol. somehow he got ungodly good at that game playing on lovely dial up out in the boonies.

i played in a pick-up team of CS 1.3, where i head shotted a person with a deagle to win a round, and i'll never forget it.

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



a friend of mine played tfc and day of defeat with software rendering and he absolutely crushed playing a sniper. i sold him my geforce 2 mx400 and that just made him stronger

Animal Friend
Sep 7, 2011

Jimmy Carter posted:

in high school I once had a teacher who accepted my of "my computer broke last night" when I told them I had Windows ME.

lol

eschaton
Mar 7, 2007

Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

when I started college every single dorm hall and school building was on H U B S

when I started school CMU was still using the chunky IBM token ring baluns but had finally deployed Ethernet to the dorms for general use, so everyone had to get a balun to RJ45 adapter for like $50

(previously you had to have a Good Reason to get Ethernet instead of LocalTalk or Token Ring, such as having your own SPARCstation)

shoeberto
Jun 13, 2020

which way to the MACHINES?

obeyasia posted:

i played in a pick-up team of CS 1.3, where i head shotted a person with a deagle to win a round, and i'll never forget it.

This entire post is a huge nostalgia trip for me back to hs. What a time to be alive.

Thread appropriate: Bawls Guarana

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
Handheld scanners for documents you couldn't (or didn't want to) put into a flatbed scanner



You had to move them physically, in a straight line, along the path you wanted to scan. If you went too fast it would smear because it could only transmit so fast, and changing direction with your hand changed direction with the scanner.

Honestly, just thinking back on all the tech poo poo my mom had at home in the 90s, so much rad stuff that I didn't properly appreciate.

Volmarias fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Oct 8, 2021

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




I am once again here to say that Cathode Ray Dude is a good follow on youtube and they did a video on those which explains them pretty well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDdfs0XW1kM&t=1369s

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

when I started college every single dorm hall and school building was on H U B S

loving HUBS, not switches.

so I’m sure it was collision central, but you could see every single computer on campus. I had a program that would just scan every IP in a block for open SMB shares and return the findings

I got so much music, software and movies that way. it also had the added advantage of on Napster, peers that were on campus would show up with a ping time of 1, so if
you saw one of those in your Napster searches, you went for it.

this was also peak edgelord time at the height of BMEZine and rotten.com and whatnot so I also inadvertently stumbled on a lot of really gross hosed up poo poo :cry:

when i started was the same year that they instituted a policy that every student must have their own computer (which you were forced to buy through them, but i digress), they upgraded the dorms with 100mb switches, but the university owned apartments and houses were still on these ancient units that had a 100mb uplink and 10mb local ports, and they were only upgraded as they went bad. this lead to tech-savvy students destroying them by jamming the fan with a pencil until they overheated and died to get an upgrade

being that every student now had their own computer, every new file sharing service that popped up also basically killed the network until it was blocked. not that it mattered as we had our own intranet of game and warez servers, as the unofficial word from the campus IT department was basically "we don't care what you do as long as you don't expose it to the outside world"

shoeberto
Jun 13, 2020

which way to the MACHINES?

Volmarias posted:

Handheld scanners for documents you couldn't (or didn't want to) put into a flatbed scanner



You had to move them physically, in a straight line, along the path you wanted to scan. If you went too fast it would smear because it could only transmit so fast, and changing direction with your hand changed direction with the scanner.

Honestly, just thinking back on all the tech poo poo my mom had at home in the 90s, so much rad stuff that I didn't properly appreciate.

Big CueCat energy

filthy regex
Oct 1, 2010

s/ (. Y .) / 8==D~~ /g

Volmarias posted:

Handheld scanners for documents you couldn't (or didn't want to) put into a flatbed scanner



You had to move them physically, in a straight line, along the path you wanted to scan. If you went too fast it would smear because it could only transmit so fast, and changing direction with your hand changed direction with the scanner.

Honestly, just thinking back on all the tech poo poo my mom had at home in the 90s, so much rad stuff that I didn't properly appreciate.

I properly appreciated the one in my house. Used it extensively to scan my dad's playboy stash so that I could read the articles at my leisure.

Quaint Quail Quilt
Jun 19, 2006


Ask me about that time I told people mixing bleach and vinegar is okay

Volmarias posted:

Handheld scanners for documents you couldn't (or didn't want to) put into a flatbed scanner


There is an AI assisted scan option on Google drive (mobile app) that I love if you need it.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
gruber remembered some funy tech poo poo from 2013 today

Larissa Faw, writing for Forbes in January 2013 posted:

Ultimately, in the eyes of today’s youth, massive popularity has watered down Apple’s coolness. “Teens are telling us Apple is done,” says Tina Wells of the youth marketing agency Buzz Marketing Group. “Apple has done a great job of embracing Gen X and older [Millennials], but I don’t think they are connecting with Millennial kids. [They’re] all about Surface tablets/laptops and Galaxy.”
ah those mid 10s kids who couldnt get enough of their surface laptops

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001

Volmarias posted:

Handheld scanners for documents you couldn't (or didn't want to) put into a flatbed scanner



You had to move them physically, in a straight line, along the path you wanted to scan. If you went too fast it would smear because it could only transmit so fast, and changing direction with your hand changed direction with the scanner.

Honestly, just thinking back on all the tech poo poo my mom had at home in the 90s, so much rad stuff that I didn't properly appreciate.

When I was in 7th grade I saved up lawn mowing money to buy one of these because I thought I could make the coolest looking school papers with scanned photos.

Now we all take for granted standard USB HID interfaces and such so that you plug in a webcam or scanner or something and It Just Works

The hand scanner I had came with its own ISA card. You got to mess around with IRQ and DMA settings until it worked and hopefully it didn’t conflict and disable your Sound Blaster along with it.

Then once you had it working, the scanner only worked with its own proprietary DOS driver and scanning software, so you would have to use Logitech’s crappy software to export an image and then import it into wherever else.

If you wanted to spend two or three months rent on an HP flatbed scanner, those supported TWAIN and had a standard interface other software could talk to, but it was the Wild West for us cheap scrubs and our hand scanners

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



The_Franz posted:

…the unofficial word from the campus IT department was basically "we don't care what you do as long as you don't expose it to the outside world"

the people that would take turns running our dc hub got in hot water for opening it to other colleges one year due to the same look-the-other-way policy. pretty sure i heard they were threatened with expulsion and withdrawing their credits if they didn't shut it down

the next year a new crew started the server and kept it local. it was still an incredible trove of content minus the bragging rights of being a huge hub for other colleges

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



our school paper had an ad telling students to talk to the campus legal counsel if they got a dmca threat letter instead of calling a tv lawyer lol

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

shoeberto posted:

Big CueCat energy

I use one to pay the few paper bills I still get.

Mantle
May 15, 2004

3D Megadoodoo posted:

I use one to pay the few paper bills I still get.

How does the cuecat fit into that workflow?

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



it keeps the bills on the table when the fans on

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Mantle posted:

How does the cuecat fit into that workflow?

You scan the bar code on the bill with it, so you don't have to type in anything? The anroid application for my bank can use the phone camera for this but it literally never works because the bar code is too wide.

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