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Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?

Booty Pageant posted:

is it me or does it feel like they got rid of bullet drop??

I think each bullet type has a different velocity/bullet drop, but for some reason they decided to make sniper rifles have no bullet drop?

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Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

it feels like they fire completely flat for a long distance then suddenly fall off, but i haven't played enough to be confident in that

Retarded Goatee
Feb 6, 2010
I spent :10bux: so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
I can't fly these aircraft for poo poo, I remember binding spacebar to pitch up among other things in earlier titles. Anybody got a recommended list of control settings?

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

Can you view the map while you're in game? I couldn't figure out how on the PS5. I could only see it when choosing spawn location.

Collapsing Farts
Jun 29, 2018

💀
Mmmm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUJDAYJ7RX8

kri kri
Jul 18, 2007

Wheeee posted:

we at a point where EA need to clean house on :dice: leadership, it's just mindbogglingly stupid decisions all the way down and a massive degree of project mismanagement to have brought such a major product to the market in such atrocious condition

They should just move development fully to Ripple Effect, there is no fixing Dice.

kri kri fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Oct 8, 2021

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"
I'm eager to see what the solution is to everyone being the same group of specialists. If a player is in your peripheral vision at range you can't readily tell if it's friend or foe based on model silhouette, color/style of uniform and have to take a split second to either turn to see if they light up blue/red or glance at the minimap.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Ytlaya posted:

For some reason I have an immensely more difficult time shooting people in this than in BF5. I think it's something specific to me, since my friend is doing fine.

I think it stems from enemies being far more difficult to see.

Every player in this game looks like a shadow/silhouette until you get within 2ft from them, and then you can see textures and even a splash of color.

Yami Fenrir
Jan 25, 2015

Is it I that is insane... or the rest of the world?

jisforjosh posted:

I'm eager to see what the solution is to everyone being the same group of specialists. If a player is in your peripheral vision at range you can't readily tell if it's friend or foe based on model silhouette, color/style of uniform and have to take a split second to either turn to see if they light up blue/red or glance at the minimap.

or just shoot them in the face.

Squeezy Farm
Jun 16, 2009
the map is so big and frontlines never really form... it wasn't played much but something like chain link in bf4 would be nice to concentrate the fighting over 1 or 2 objectives.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

Squeezy Farm posted:

the map is so big and frontlines never really form... it wasn't played much but something like chain link in bf4 would be nice to concentrate the fighting over 1 or 2 objectives.

Breakthrough/Operations on this map would own

henpod
Mar 7, 2008

Sir, we have located the Bioweapon.
College Slice
So, despite the problems, I just had a round that gave a glimpse into the cool stuff.

I noticed that the rocket was getting ready to take off, so I just hung near it with the littlebird and fired rockets and miniguns. Two minutes later and that poo poo exploded BIG, which i'm sure could be seen from across the map. Awesome.

Then the weather changed and it got stormy, and then I saw my first in-game hurricane. The scale is quite impressive, and the weather effects as you go nearer to it are great. I decided to run into it to see what happens. My guy got pulled up and swirled VERY high up until I eventually got free. I followed it around on my parachute and watched it make its way onto the main fighting area, with all the trucks and debris getting pulled in.

The battle pretty much stopped and everyone was running and jumping into the tornado, having gunfights high in the sky, tumbling in a barely visible megastorm.

That stuff was really cool.

But yes, there is no 'team' feel. No medics, ammo guys, frontlines or anything. But, then again this is conquest on a large open map, so perhaps on more focused areas and gametypes we'll se a bit more of the 'old' battlefield.

henpod fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Oct 8, 2021

kri kri
Jul 18, 2007

The amount of graphics glitches and stuttering made my just quit playing after a few minutes last night. Hopefully they fix this jank up, but god drat this poo poo is hosed. This is like pre-alpha levels of polish.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
Arnt they only giving us 2 modes? Everything else is portal?

Will the ranking/unlocks system work in portal or is it going to be the equivalent of 'unofficial servers'.

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


If you double click fire really fast with the infantry rocket launcher it looks like you shoot 2 rockets sometimes

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



i love this game

it's giving me bf3/bf4 feels and im here for it

bugs from bf3 and bf4 betas popping back up just makes me lol, the frostbite engine must be held together by chewing gum and paper clips

ethanol fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Oct 8, 2021

Skyl3lazer
Aug 27, 2007

[Dooting Stealthily]



Yeah this beta is easily the best battlefield since 4, I have no idea how people are complaing about this compared to the mediocrity of 1 and awfulness of 5

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica
Feels more like a shittier titanfall than a battlefield game

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

There's a large contingent of goons that just hate every piece of media always. TV/IV and the Movie forum are especially bad about it.

This game is cool and good. And yeah there is some jank, but calling this pre-alpha levels of polish is hyperbolic nonsense.

henpod
Mar 7, 2008

Sir, we have located the Bioweapon.
College Slice
Just wait until a tornado wades in, that was loving awesome.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



it's so drat nice having the helicopters back, im right back to my old sky god pop and drop tricks. also with the increase player count it's easier to do insanely funny landings right in front of groups of advancing players. nobody can pass up a ride in a helicopter that cuts off a huge swathe of players moving off of a newly captured point. Also I've seen some pretty awesome ground advances, like 20+ players charging across the field towards the rocket, felt cool as hell

when there are less noobs and more people playing objectives, the player count is really going to shine i think. I do hope they dont forget to include a 16v16 reduced size map like they did in bf4 though

oh and that assembly building rooftop.. oh man... it's the perfect bait for snipers to await my rocket barrage.

ethanol fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Oct 8, 2021

Fart Car '97
Jul 23, 2003

Bad Company 2 was good because it was on a smaller scale. Thats it. It's easier to make a tighter & better designed game on the scale of BC2 and they did just that. Despite conquest and big maps being the selling points, the BF series has always been at its best when it's confined to a more moderate scale with medium sized teams. But here we are many iterations later and they still won't admit it.

Rusty
Sep 28, 2001
Dinosaur Gum

Pontificating rear end posted:

I think each bullet type has a different velocity/bullet drop, but for some reason they decided to make sniper rifles have no bullet drop?
Sniper rifles are really hard to use because the bullets are really slow and have massive bullet drop, so no. Seems like they really nerfed snipers which is good, I barely got killed by any when I played.

I ended up refunding as I don't think I can deal with the menus anymore and am not paying $90 for this to play on the 12th. I may still buy on release depending on how Portal works out. I also just do not like how directionless it is. It's just people running randomly to points and no way as far as I can tell as an SL to direct your squad like other BF games. No one heals, no one drops ammo, barely any revives, pretty disappointing.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
I've refunded because pre-ordering a digital game is dumb and I only did it for the early beta access. I'll pick it up if the chat from the early access days (November 11-19th i think?) give a good impression of improvements.

There is lots of stuff I like but I want to know exactly how portal will work and how they monetise these specialists.

Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Oct 8, 2021

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



bf4 took like a whole year to get fixed so consider the whole first year early access. i just hope they strive to release as many maps as bf4, but that's a tall order.

Born in Bexhill
Apr 9, 2007

ethanol posted:

bf4 took like a whole year to get fixed so consider the whole first year early access. i just hope they strive to release as many maps as bf4, but that's a tall order.

Going to take that long to get a ps5 so works out

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

Fart Car '97 posted:

the BF series has always been at its best when it's confined to a more moderate scale

Like Metro

Sammus
Nov 30, 2005

kri kri posted:

The amount of graphics glitches and stuttering made my just quit playing after a few minutes last night. Hopefully they fix this jank up, but god drat this poo poo is hosed. This is like pre-alpha levels of polish.

PS5? I ask because that’s been my experience to. Some of this poo poo is so bad as to be downright dangerous if I was epileptic.

kri kri
Jul 18, 2007

Fart Car '97 posted:

Bad Company 2 was good because it was on a smaller scale. Thats it. It's easier to make a tighter & better designed game on the scale of BC2 and they did just that. Despite conquest and big maps being the selling points, the BF series has always been at its best when it's confined to a more moderate scale with medium sized teams. But here we are many iterations later and they still won't admit it.

But a full BF1 breakthrough/frontline game is good.

Sammus posted:

PS5? I ask because that’s been my experience to. Some of this poo poo is so bad as to be downright dangerous if I was epileptic.

Xbox series X. I can't capture any videos but I was getting constant flashing / graphics pop-in and stuttering. When using tank guns I get constant camera movement and have to just stop using them.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

I am beyond frustrated with the AA launcher in this game.
This happens well over half the time I get a lock and shoot at aircraft.

https://twitch.tv/videos/1170888896

RCarr
Dec 24, 2007

kri kri posted:

But a full BF1 breakthrough/frontline game is good.

Xbox series X. I can't capture any videos but I was getting constant flashing / graphics pop-in and stuttering. When using tank guns I get constant camera movement and have to just stop using them.

Just curious, why can’t you capture any videos?

kri kri
Jul 18, 2007

RCarr posted:

Just curious, why can’t you capture any videos?

They had to turn the capture options off for xbox as they were busted

Its in the known issues post of whatever

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006

Foehammer007 posted:

Feels more like a shittier titanfall than a battlefield game

A shittier titanfall is better than 99% of what’s on the market, so I’d cut that check personally

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

Beta runs like complete doo doo rear end, I have to drop it all the way to low to barely scrape 70-80fps on an 8700k+3070, and it still stutters

BillyJoeBob
Feb 7, 2010

Anal-retentive, overly loquacious weapons scientist.

Don't make me choose between the repair torch and rocket launcher. I loved being the armormancer. I only got a round and a half in so far but it seems p fun.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

kri kri posted:

But a full BF1 breakthrough/frontline game is good.

Yep, and what do they both have in common? A series of focused, moderate sized encounter areas on a much larger map. And much like Bad Company 2, they work better with their lower player counts; Frontlines with 32 players and Operations being better with 40 than 64. Conquest is an amazingly fun sandbox mode but sometimes you want more focus. Glad Breakthrough is coming back for 2042

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Doctor Butts posted:

I am beyond frustrated with the AA launcher in this game.
This happens well over half the time I get a lock and shoot at aircraft.

https://twitch.tv/videos/1170888896

This is because aircraft are skating around. Even after figuring out the controls of the jet, it's very hard to shoot anything because everything is skipping from place to place. Your missile just straight does not know where that helecopter is, so it can't hit them.

Also aren't the singer launchers reusable? They've got optics and everything. Should just reload the missile

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Grondoth posted:

This is because aircraft are skating around. Even after figuring out the controls of the jet, it's very hard to shoot anything because everything is skipping from place to place. Your missile just straight does not know where that helecopter is, so it can't hit them.

Also aren't the singer launchers reusable? They've got optics and everything. Should just reload the missile

:lol: Yes in real life the launchers are reusable, you're just supposed to reload it with a new stinger missile. But in the future you just throw the whole thing away and pull a whole other 5 foot long, 33lb launcher system out of your rear end.

Mr Beens
Dec 2, 2006

Mega Comrade posted:

Arnt they only giving us 2 modes? Everything else is portal?

Will the ranking/unlocks system work in portal or is it going to be the equivalent of 'unofficial servers'.

They have said that progression works in Portal, but they have the ability to turn it off if specific modifiers are present to prevent people making easy xp farm modes (i.e. 4 players vs 100 easy bots on 1hp each)

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codo27
Apr 21, 2008

repiv posted:

Beta runs like complete doo doo rear end, I have to drop it all the way to low to barely scrape 70-80fps on an 8700k+3070, and it still stutters

The funny thing to me is even with on max at 1440 it doesn't really look great? Theres just something off about it to me but maybe its something else that needs to be fixed

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