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D-Pad posted:"Conceptual alpha build" is hyperbolic in the extreme if you've ever actually played a conceptual alpha build. I'm not denying there isn't a lot of jank, but this isn't that far off from any other battlefield beta that went on to do well. Of course it hyperbolic, but thanks for pointing it out. It's still a completely fubar'ed beta/demo. Even the map doesn't work, seriously what the gently caress?
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dog nougat posted:I'm really enjoying the beta overall. It's not perfect, but I didn't expect it to be. While I still think it'd be better with actual classes than the goofy specialist system I'll just have to adapt to this new system. The decision to limit squads to 4 players is questionable. I think it'd be better at 5 or 6 so you can have a robust squad that can react to nearly any threat (ideally). The grappling hook is cool, but I honestly prefer running with the recon perk and using my drone to spot enemies for my team assaulting a point or play defense as an engineer. The ability for anyone to carry wiz-balls is pretty sweet and I find it way more useful than grenades. For the most part I haven't found rocket spam to be all that bad and have had pretty good luck surviving in vehicles. I'm interested to see how the game turns out in November. I'm having a blast so far, and the portal thing looks like a hell of a lot of fun. Pretty much my thoughts. This has been by far the smoothest of the series' betas that I've played. Nothing utterly game breaking, no crashes, just some expected jank. Finding big firefights hasn't been hard, which isn't something I was really expecting given the map size. Love the ttk. The attachment system is fun and useful. I'm glad there aren't 10k attachments like it was in BF4. Gonna play a lot over the weekend gonna rock.
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Oct 8, 2021 19:25
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I just find it funny how somehow BF isn't "team based" anymore. As if vehicles don't dominate a majority of servers. Half the time I played the old games I feel like fodder for some nerd sitting in a jet for two hours. I just played and naturally we had a lil squad of 7 running together and covering each other from objective to objective. And sometimes I didn't. Hell it's a beta and I'm sure half the people are just loving with settings to get playable FPS. Just alot of anecdotal stuff that isn't true for everybody. Or somehow everybody being able to revive each other is a bad thing. Every BF game we get the "Medic never revives' complaining and now that everyone can (like in BFV) that's bad too.
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Oct 8, 2021 19:27
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Oct 8, 2021 19:32
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Seems like a lot of old battlefield veterans want to play Hell Let Loose. Which is a good game too. Its just not this game
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Oct 8, 2021 19:34
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:Seems like a lot of old battlefield veterans want to play Hell Let Loose. Which is a good game too. Its just not this game That's completely false. Everyone complaining about Battlefield 2042 is comparing it to older Battlefields.
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Oct 8, 2021 19:36
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:Seems like a lot of old battlefield veterans want to play Hell Let Loose. Which is a good game too. Its just not this game
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Oct 8, 2021 19:41
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Charles 1998 posted:That's completely false. Everyone complaining about Battlefield 2042 is comparing it to older Battlefields. Maybe I didn't phrase that correctly? Those same people would love playing HLL because it does not have those Battle Royale traits that you yourself listed. Its a very team based objective war fps with classes and vehicles
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Oct 8, 2021 19:42
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:Maybe I didn't phrase that correctly? Those same people would love playing HLL because it does not have those Battle Royale traits that you yourself listed. Its a very team based objective war fps with classes and vehicles Eh, I'm doubtful of that. It plays like a janky indie walking sim. You may as well play Battlefield 4, 1, or V.
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Oct 8, 2021 19:46
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Oct 8, 2021 19:47
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:Maybe I didn't phrase that correctly? Those same people would love playing HLL because it does not have those Battle Royale traits that you yourself listed. Its a very team based objective war fps with classes and vehicles I mean, I guess but for a battlefield game I would like to play like a typical battlefield game. The specialist system changes the entire game. I guess we find out in a month.
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Oct 8, 2021 19:51
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Charles 1998 posted:Eh, I'm doubtful of that. It plays like a janky indie walking sim. You may as well play Battlefield 4, 1, or V.
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Oct 8, 2021 19:53
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Rusty posted:It's not even close to any of those games. You are on voice comms with a squad of 6 (or 3 in a tank) and stick with your squad the whole game. It's basically almost forced the way the spawn system works and rifles are all one hit kills up to like 100m. It doesn't play anything like any BF game. I for one am shocked that someone may in fact be arguing in bad faith on the internet because they're mad about a video game not being what they expected it to be.
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Oct 8, 2021 19:54
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:Maybe I didn't phrase that correctly? Those same people would love playing HLL because it does not have those Battle Royale traits that you yourself listed. Its a very team based objective war fps with classes and vehicles I hate HLL but loved battlefield 1 and 4 and wished this game was more like that. This feels like a step away from what makes battelfield a fun franchise, not an improvement on the formula.
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Maybe it's the expanded player base, or maybe DICE got enough stats and stopped reserving many slots for bots, but the game was so much more responsive today. And my server was 100% humans only -- made a real difference. Fighting against multiple people was a real challenge, and really made me more amped for this game. They have to fix the sniping though. Crazy slow velocity and wicked bullet drop -- ends up with a sniping match being two people just testing the drop against each other for ever. The game loves CPU cores, I reckon, because sure I have a 3080, but it seems like I get great performance (110-120 fps) at 1440p (Ultra/High mix) thanks to the 12 cores of my 5900x.
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Oct 8, 2021 20:02
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LampkinsMateSteve posted:They have to fix the sniping though. Crazy slow velocity and wicked bullet drop -- ends up with a sniping match being two people just testing the drop against each other for ever. This is honestly my only real complaint with the game right now. I wouldn't want them to go all warzone ballistics on the sniper rifles but BF4 and 1 had it right imo.
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Oct 8, 2021 20:05
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LampkinsMateSteve posted:Maybe it's the expanded player base, or maybe DICE got enough stats and stopped reserving many slots for bots, but the game was so much more responsive today. And my server was 100% humans only -- made a real difference. Fighting against multiple people was a real challenge, and really made me more amped for this game. I know the Freeman community guy was talking about fixing which servers you connected to, so you are probably right. Apparently the game would connect you to another geographic location which would probably explain alot of the crazy lag.
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Oct 8, 2021 20:13
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The only thing I absolutely hate about this game is losing literally all the good things from V. I want my action roll and secret handshake back dammit. 
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Oct 8, 2021 20:16
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Kazinsal posted:This is honestly my only real complaint with the game right now. I wouldn't want them to go all warzone ballistics on the sniper rifles but BF4 and 1 had it right imo. BF4 spoiled me on sniping so hard. I can't snipe without a rangefinder anymore lol.
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Oct 8, 2021 20:16
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Infidelicious posted:While taking into consideration optimal engagement profiles based on the opponents class strengths and weaknesses the dude has killed you and your friends with whatever he's carrying: Growing sense that we've discovered the difference between the farmer and the farmed. "Who has the rockets, who has the health" is some basic poo poo to have thrown out the window. Kind of lame to abandon those layers of complexity and squad cohesion, while adding in fiddly midround gun customization so you can minmax your ammo/sights between objectives.
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Oct 8, 2021 20:16
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Charles 1998 posted:Now that I think about it, I think we're getting the opposite of Battlefield V. Battlefield V had a battle royal mode in a game designed and balanced around Conquest and Operations. What we're getting is a game designed around Battle Royal, with Conquest and Operations shoe horned in. Here are the things that make me feel like Battlefield 2042 is designed from the ground up as a battle royal: Symetrique posted:I mean, these were in V as well. repiv posted:DICE explicitly said there are no plans for a BR mode in 2042 GyverMac posted:Yeah, can attest to this. The 128 player cap really did me in most of all though. It is just chaos everywhere and impossible to get some kind of team cohesion. It felt more like a futuristic COD ground war match than battlefield. (which is bad IMHO) Assepoester fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Oct 8, 2021 |
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Oct 8, 2021 20:27
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First impressions are that this game is going to be good but it does not feel like a game that is coming out in a month. Visually it's really impressive. Much more so than in videos on youtube, but I can't help but feel like something is missing... some sort of post processing maybe, that really made BF1 and BF5 pop. Like, it looks sort of sterile. I don't know how to describe it.
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Oct 8, 2021 20:44
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Chronojam posted:Growing sense that we've discovered the difference between the farmer and the farmed. "Who has the rockets, who has the health" is some basic poo poo to have thrown out the window. None of that has ever been Battlefield what the hell
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Oct 8, 2021 20:49
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The United States posted:Doesn't matter that they're not making one now, at some point EA definitely wanted to have these features worked on in preparation for one, or at the very least to make this game more palatable to the very large playerbase of COD Warzone, and here we are. Battle Royale is tapped out. There is no room for more Battle Royale games. Fortnite, Warzone and Apex, dominate that market and I think companies are starting to realize that. This is why hazard zone is supposed to be a "hardcore squad experience". It's totally going to be Tarkov lite. Imho the Tarkov/Hunt:showdown formula is going to be the new thing games start gunning for, because it's very similar to BR in nature and experience, but has a lot more room for creativity and the market isn't completely saturated. I've been saying this for a while and looking at Battlefield and The new Ghost Recon it seems to be becoming a reality. Which is good because that formula is way better than BR imo. I really don't expect to see a traditional BR in 2042 at all. Maybe as some gimmick mode I dunno. I'm sure the currently successful BR games will continue to be popular but I think the gold rush is over.
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The United States posted:Doesn't matter that they're not making one now, at some point EA definitely wanted to have these features worked on in preparation for one, or at the very least to make this game more palatable to the very large playerbase of COD Warzone, and here we are. Definitely the last part. It seems like a very executive move to look at the massive success of of BR games and then make DICE copy elements from them, with out actually knowing their own franchise. No matter what, the implementation comes from a place of insecurity in their product
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Oct 8, 2021 21:06
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RBX posted:None of that has ever been Battlefield what the hell Really quickly discovering that "kill the guy with the shotgun next to you first, then kill their medics" is a tactical bridge too far. Pubbies taking the exact same route into the exact same minefield over and over is starting to make sense.
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Oct 8, 2021 21:08
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-There's really no point in medics at the rate you self-heal, huh? -Lol, if you swap the grenade controls to quick throw, it'll automatically throw it if you even just mousewheel over it which is dumb
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Oct 8, 2021 21:08
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Chronojam posted:Really quickly discovering that "kill the guy with the shotgun next to you first, then kill their medics" is a tactical bridge too far. It's more like"those are obvious things people know for every multiplayer game ever but most of the time in BF that doesn't matter and it's shoot people first". Making up stuff like it's some deep system is a reach.
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Oct 8, 2021 21:11
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RBX posted:None of that has ever been Battlefield what the hell Lmao what, the BF series had always been about identifying classes both on your side and the enemy, it's part of the failing of BFV
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Oct 8, 2021 21:25
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jisforjosh posted:Lmao what, the BF series had always been about identifying classes both on your side and the enemy, it's part of the failing of BFV Kind of moot in 2042 when everyone is walking around with paddles. I really miss dueling medic chains in BC2, that was insane.
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Oct 8, 2021 21:27
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jisforjosh posted:Lmao what, the BF series had always been about identifying classes both on your side and the enemy, it's part of the failing of BFV I agree, being able to tell at a glance what you're up against is super important.
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Oct 8, 2021 21:28
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Game's got a real identity crisis imo.
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Oct 8, 2021 21:29
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:Kind of moot in 2042 when everyone is walking around with paddles. Honestly the BFV system of anyone being able to revive but it took much longer was a good risk-reward trade off
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Oct 8, 2021 21:41
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jisforjosh posted:Honestly the BFV system of anyone being able to revive but it took much longer was a good risk-reward trade off What's the point when you can just respawn?
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Oct 8, 2021 21:44
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Charles 1998 posted:What's the point when you can just respawn? ??????????
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Oct 8, 2021 21:52
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:Kind of moot in 2042 when everyone is walking around with paddles. Saying "I really miss one of the biggest gameplay flaws of a previous game" isnt exactly making me give a poo poo about how you think the game should be designed
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Oct 8, 2021 21:53
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Oct 8, 2021 21:57
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Would prefer 64 or 32 player servers on a smaller map tbh The chaos of 128 players is fun for a while but it's not as engaging
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Oct 8, 2021 22:03
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It took a few days, and maybe cos it's Friday night and have a couple beers in me, but low ping, good frames, and I'm having fun. I think I get the flow and meta a bit more, and I'm getting into lots of good fights.
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Skyl3lazer posted:Saying "I really miss one of the biggest gameplay flaws of a previous game" isnt exactly making me give a poo poo about how you think the game should be designed those were fun tho
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