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Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012
imma laugh and not be surprised if anyone having performance issues boiled down to this new implementation of EAC/drm that requires you to be on 2019/2020 builds of windows 10

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jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

Charles 1998 posted:

What's the point when you can just respawn?

Instead of saving a ticket, possibly help continue pushing and putting pressure on an enemy point AND not mess up my leet kdr???

Skyscraper
Oct 1, 2004

Hurry Up, We're Dreaming



I was so angry when I went in for a revive under fire, got it, and they ended up being an AI.

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

Having now played the beta, my number one question is: Who in the gently caress thought it was a good idea to give the littlebird hydras

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

Chillgamesh posted:

Having now played the beta, my number one question is: Who in the gently caress thought it was a good idea to give the littlebird hydras

It was even worse in the alpha lol

Charles 1998
Sep 27, 2007

by VideoGames

Booty Pageant posted:

imma laugh and not be surprised if anyone having performance issues boiled down to this new implementation of EAC/drm that requires you to be on 2019/2020 builds of windows 10

Just wait till they start implementing TPM support, where they can uniquely identify your PC hardware using the TPM's key.

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT
some of y'all are extrapolating a hell of a lot from a half baked beta with one map and no comm system

it's gonna be a shitshow on launch like every dice game and they're gonna fix it eventually like every dice game and if you expected any different you live on another plane of reality.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic

Skyl3lazer posted:

Saying "I really miss one of the biggest gameplay flaws of a previous game" isnt exactly making me give a poo poo about how you think the game should be designed

Sorry you don't like fun.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2

Skyscraper posted:

I was so angry when I went in for a revive under fire, got it, and they ended up being an AI.




Chillgamesh posted:

Having now played the beta, my number one question is: Who in the gently caress thought it was a good idea to give the littlebird hydras
Rocket pods are cool and I will forever lament that they were removed from the already overpowered BF2 Blackhawks sometime after creating the box art but before release

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

Dr. Fishopolis posted:

some of y'all are extrapolating a hell of a lot from a half baked beta with one map and no comm system

it's gonna be a shitshow on launch like every dice game and they're gonna fix it eventually like every dice game and if you expected any different you live on another plane of reality.

People like making themselves mad and also complaining

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica
Changing core battlefield elements is real goofy

Propaganda Hour
Aug 25, 2008



after editing wikipedia as a joke for 16 years, i ve convinced myself that homer simpson's japanese name translates to the "The beer goblin"
Battlefield 2042: Posters are inventing a guy operator just to get mad at

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
Reading the complaints is so weird. Battlefield 1 was a complete shitshow, and terrible addition to the franchise. I skipped V because it was so awful. Now we finally get something modern again and it's like they took BF4 and added some cool gadgets to it. It feels and plays great, and not total poo poo like BF1 was. Yeah, the UI, class system, mods, and other weird glitches need some work, but cancelling? Really? I dont get it. Compared to boring as COD and the previous crap BF games, this is pure gold.

BIgDevine
Sep 24, 2018

Blue Raider posted:

This is my opinion also

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica

Philthy posted:

Reading the complaints is so weird. Battlefield 1 was a complete shitshow, and terrible addition to the franchise. I skipped V because it was so awful. Now we finally get something modern again and it's like they took BF4 and added some cool gadgets to it. It feels and plays great, and not total poo poo like BF1 was. Yeah, the UI, class system, mods, and other weird glitches need some work, but cancelling? Really? I dont get it. Compared to boring as COD and the previous crap BF games, this is pure gold.

It's exactly like COD Ground war???

Target Practice
Aug 20, 2004

Shit.
Tbf while BF1 was really rough at launch, it turned into a really solid combined arms game. I can totally understand not liking the setting but as far as map design and gameplay it's a great addition now.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

Philthy posted:

Reading the complaints is so weird. Battlefield 1 was a complete shitshow, and terrible addition to the franchise.
Wrong bitch!

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

Foehammer007 posted:

It's exactly like COD Ground war???

Genuinely wondering how they're similar because ground war was a cramped shitshow no matter the map and ends up being killstreak spam.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic

Target Practice posted:

Tbf while BF1 was really rough at launch, it turned into a really solid combined arms game. I can totally understand not liking the setting but as far as map design and gameplay it's a great addition now.

It was a fine game in isolation, it just wasn't a Battlefield game in the same vein as BC2/BF3/BF4. Way fewer cool sandbox moments in it.

All the battlefield moments I ever saw were sentry killstreaks, which wow congrats on killing people with an elite kit.

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006

Charles 1998 posted:

Now that I think about it, I think we're getting the opposite of Battlefield V.

I sure loving hope so.

Revitalized
Sep 13, 2007

A free custom title is a free custom title

Lipstick Apathy
I just want to host a server that runs a BF3 ruleset with whatever improvements 2042 brings.

Warad
Aug 10, 2019



Hot Diggity! posted:

Genuinely wondering how they're similar because ground war was a cramped shitshow no matter the map and ends up being killstreak spam.

Honestly the only thing that feels COD-ish to me is the movement to an extent, maybe the shooting as well in a way that I can't quite put my finger on, but even with all the jank I wouldn't put 2042 anywhere near the shitfest that Ground War was.

Anyway, would just like to mention that the Magnum is just perfect and it makes me feel like I have my baby the Obrez again.

Skyscraper
Oct 1, 2004

Hurry Up, We're Dreaming




:haw:

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Hm. This game seems like a bad battlefield game. Not gonna play this.

whaley
Aug 13, 2000

MY DOODOO IS SPRAYING OUT

RBX posted:

It looks, plays, and sounds like Battlefield. I really don't know why all the hand wringing other than just to complain about something. The only thing wrong are bugs like saving settings, Squad stuff, or optimization which they usually nail.

What.

How is any of that a bad thing and not progression? Do you people just want BF4 with new guns? I don't get it

charles is just mad that everyone thinks his favorite class is worthless

whaley
Aug 13, 2000

MY DOODOO IS SPRAYING OUT
2042 is going to fail because the beta is buggy, compared to the successful battlefield 3 where you couldn't move without falling through the ground in the beta, or battlefield 4 where you couldn't play through an entire round without it crashing

Target Practice
Aug 20, 2004

Shit.

whaley posted:

2042 is going to fail because the beta is buggy, compared to the successful battlefield 3 where you couldn't move without falling through the ground in the beta, or battlefield 4 where you couldn't play through an entire round without it crashing

Yeah, this beta is pretty on par. I have had zero issues (except for the glitch gunner position).

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



whaley posted:

2042 is going to fail because the beta is buggy, compared to the successful battlefield 3 where you couldn't move without falling through the ground in the beta, or battlefield 4 where you couldn't play through an entire round without it crashing

Don’t forget bf4 servers would just rubberband for months

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

MMMPH MMMPPHH MPPPH GLUCK GLUCK OH SORRY I DIDNT SEE YOU THERE I WAS JUST CHOKING DOWN THIS BATTLEFIELD COCK DID YOU KNOW BATTLEFIELD IS THE BEST VIDEO GAME EVER NOW IF YOULL EXCUSE ME ILL GO BACK TO THIS BATTLECOCK

whaley posted:

2042 is going to fail because the beta is buggy, compared to the successful battlefield 3 where you couldn't move without falling through the ground in the beta, or battlefield 4 where you couldn't play through an entire round without it crashing

Yes this is the reason people are worried about 2042 and nothing else, yup, just this.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

MMMPH MMMPPHH MPPPH GLUCK GLUCK OH SORRY I DIDNT SEE YOU THERE I WAS JUST CHOKING DOWN THIS BATTLEFIELD COCK DID YOU KNOW BATTLEFIELD IS THE BEST VIDEO GAME EVER NOW IF YOULL EXCUSE ME ILL GO BACK TO THIS BATTLECOCK

Sedisp posted:

Hm. This game seems like a bad battlefield game. Not gonna play this.

It is unfortunately

RBX
Jan 2, 2011

My favorite class was assault just to revive and heal teammates and now I can heal from long range AND carry ammo for them because I don't need defib equipped also fixing the problem of support not giving ammo.. And I use whatever gun I want! I see nothing wrong.

Skyscraper
Oct 1, 2004

Hurry Up, We're Dreaming



I think the bugs are going to get fixed and the bad ideas for classes are going to get baked in.

Then again, some of the classes we haven't seen yet might be OK. I haven't seen how this game plays with smoke grenades and better maps and stingers that actually sting.

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

Raskolnikov2089 posted:

It was a fine game in isolation, it just wasn't a Battlefield game in the same vein as BC2/BF3/BF4. Way fewer cool sandbox moments in it.

All the battlefield moments I ever saw were sentry killstreaks, which wow congrats on killing people with an elite kit.

I'm always really curious what people imagine those cool sandbox moments to be b/c whenever I see examples cited it pretty much just boils down to jihad jeep hijinks, playing with 1-2 particularly janky gadget implementations, and maybe shooting a manpads after leaping from a jet and then catching it

those are neat but (any particularly favored janky gadget aside) they're so old hat for the series that calling them "sandbox" seems dubious, and it's hard to see how they're inherently more "sandboxy" than stuff like horse or motorcycle + sidecar hijinks

I liked those games as well, and obviously a fair bit of this is genuinely subjective and holistic, but whenever I see anyone talking about how BF1 somehow betrayed the spirit of the series it's impossible for me to see it as anything but unmoored nostalgia (at best)

especially when BC2 is also cited as a favorite, since that was a game that is fondly remembered in large part because of how extensively it deviated from the sacred cows of "real" battlefield (and the things that do arguably make BF1 genuinely less "sandboxy," like the spotlight on more focused game modes like Operations, have pretty obvious parallels in BC2's smaller player count and focus on Rush)

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

There's been a massive exodus of talent from DICE since BFV shipped so I'm a bit wary of using past trends to predict how this one will shape up

In particular most of the senior Frostbite people bailed and landed at Epic or Unity or Embark

Pleads
Jun 9, 2005

pew pew pew


It would be neat if the game would let me join a game instead of just looping through matchmaking endlessly. Somehow I feel this is going to affect my perception of the title.

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
If people took BF betas for a representation of what the final product would be...then BF3/4 would probably be seen as the worst in the series.

The mechanics change with each iteration. The sniper rage from BC2 eliminating the ability to prone was hilarious. BF3/4 were netcode messes for well over a year, among other problems. BF1 Operations were terrible until Dice made AA encampments repairable. The list goes on and on.

The beta has been live for 1.5 days and it's playable and fun which rocks.

DeliciousPatriotism
May 26, 2008
after seeing tons of footage, speaking with pals playing it and reading this thread I'm frankly ambivalent on the changes mostly because Portal will exist and if it's even 50% of what they're claiming then if I dont like vanilly I'll just go to like

any of a bazillion custom servers or straight up classic remix ones

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

Raskolnikov2089 posted:

It was a fine game in isolation, it just wasn't a Battlefield game in the same vein as BC2/BF3/BF4. Way fewer cool sandbox moments in it.

All the battlefield moments I ever saw were sentry killstreaks, which wow congrats on killing people with an elite kit.

Pretend I posted the video of the BF1 cavalry tossing mini anti tank grenades into the air to kill a plane

Dr Cheesequake
Dec 23, 2008

I dream of humans and goblins co-existing peacefully
How playable is it on i5-4590, 8gb ram and a 970 on a 1080p monitor?
As you can see, my system is from 2015. With the current gpu prices it’s going to stay at this performance level for a while.

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Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Seeing a lot of evidence in this thread that management’s directive to make BF feel more like CoD was the right move, you get to hook a bunch of the dumber people who like that poo poo and everyone else tags along anyway since it’s not like BF has any real competition in the huge sandbox FPS market.

Game right now is bad, they’ll eventually fix the technical problems like they always do, and portal at least promises the ability for the community to fix the terrible design decisions like specialists.

I installed BC2 last night out of curiosity and it’s sad how much better it feels and while sliding around like a wannabe Apex legend in 2042 is alright, the movement in this game is a big step down from BFV.

But at least now there’s a janky grapple hook!

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