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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Dr Cheesequake posted:

How playable is it on i5-4590, 8gb ram and a 970 on a 1080p monitor?
As you can see, my system is from 2015. With the current gpu prices it’s going to stay at this performance level for a while.

It's an open beta so give it a shot for yourself. I'm gonna assume it will run pretty badly though, especially with that cpu.

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Sammus
Nov 30, 2005

This is fun!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=73KL8nYLFdQ

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


First impressions: Might be the first battlefield game I don't buy on launch.

Graphically it's real nice but man do I hate this operator system. Everyone looks the loving same what the hell were they thinking?

That and basically eliminating the class system is a real downer. Snipers can carry RPGs, everyone gets sensor balls, etc... In all the other battlefields I could look at an enemy and at a glance get a rough idea what their capabilities are, now that wookie could be a medic or disable my tank.

While it's a visual and audio treat the gameplay just feels like mush.

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica
its such a breath of fresh air going from this to bf4

I just don't get how you can keep loving your series every new game

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica

Hot Diggity! posted:

Genuinely wondering how they're similar because ground war was a cramped shitshow no matter the map and ends up being killstreak spam.

there are better things about BF, but the animations/gunplay, zerg rush, etc all the same.

Its better with friends but feels a lot like COD, just slide around and shoot, get a million kills

George RR Fartin
Apr 16, 2003




Started my first session at 6:15 this morning, gun would not stop firing. Switch to grenade, immediately prime it. Switch back, continue firing, reload, continue firing. Hit esc, quit.

Started session #2 ten minutes ago. Same deal. Delete left mouse from fire binding. Shooting stops. Attempt to re-add left mouse, can't do it because it's simply not recognized as a bindable input. It works everywhere else but the keybinds, where it may as well not exist, and in-game if I reset to default (which I did), where it may as well be taped down. No controllers are plugged in, and everything else works fine outside the context of this game.

Quit, uninstalled.

Look, I get the point of a beta is to catch and fix bugs but when you go to open beta those bugs are meant to be esoteric. This is the dumbest thing I've ever encountered and I've played the other BF games and suffered through the most recent COD seasons, so I've seen some very stupid mistakes on an abstract level. It almost takes talent to gently caress this up so badly.

George RR Fartin fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Oct 9, 2021

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Melman v2
Battlefield Betas are actually Alphas BUT pre-order bonus Betas are also demos so I don't blame anyone for being put off by what is effectively a demo.

Also, did you know BF3 has modding? Except this isn't BF3...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMPOONHUOHs

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Oct 9, 2021

Nash
Aug 1, 2003

Sign my 'Bring Goldberg Back' Petition
After playing for a few hours, I think I’m gonna cancel my preorder and go back to playing BF1, the superior battlefield.

Fingat
May 17, 2004

Shhh. My Common Sense is Tingling



George RR Fartin posted:

Started my first session at 6:15 this morning, gun would not stop firing. Switch to grenade, immediately prime it. Switch back, continue firing, reload, continue firing. Hit esc, quit.

Started session #2 ten minutes ago. Same deal. Delete left mouse from fire binding. Shooting stops. Attempt to re-add left mouse, can't do it because it's simply not recognized as a bindable input. It works everywhere else but the keybinds, where it may as well not exist, and in-game if I reset to default (which I did), where it may as well be taped down. No controllers are plugged in, and everything else works fine outside the context of this game.

Quit, uninstalled.

Look, I get the point of a beta is to catch and fix bugs but when you go to open beta those bugs are meant to be esoteric. This is the dumbest thing I've ever encountered and I've played the other BF games and suffered through the most recent COD seasons, so I've seen some very stupid mistakes on an abstract level. It almost takes talent to gently caress this up so badly.

If you have any controller plugged in or gamepad it loads controller keybinds and does this. You have to go into the keybinds and clear any controller settings that are in the controller column.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



The too cod like is one of my favorite complaints from bf3 beta

sdr782
Jun 7, 2005

"I said it was dodgeball time, bitch."
I'm enjoying the game but I do agree with most of the common complaints such as the specialist system being significantly worse than the classic BF class system. The core gameplay feels like a step down from BFV which is unfortunate. The character movement feels worse & generally floatier and there are various features from BFV that were removed such as the crouch run. I wish they kept some of the "new" gameplay features from BFV, smaller things like anyone being able to revive squadmates, the lower starting ammo system which meant you were more reliant on support players, the bandage healing system, the fortification system. These things fostered teamwork and almost forced randoms to at least somewhat work together and at least right now in BF2042 it seems like everyone is just running around on their own sliding with their M4s, grapples, and rocket launchers and doing their own thing.

UnknownTarget
Sep 5, 2019

I liked BF1 from a gameplay perspective since I got into it late but I didn't enjoy it because it hardly had any vehicle focus, which is my jam.

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

Dr Cheesequake posted:

How playable is it on i5-4590, 8gb ram and a 970 on a 1080p monitor?
As you can see, my system is from 2015. With the current gpu prices it’s going to stay at this performance level for a while.

CPU is going to be what fucks you in modern games like this, not so much GPU, and that won't hold a steady 60fps. I have an old i7-6700K and put the game to 1080p low settings to try it out after reading this and still had drops to below 60fps with a 2080.

Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

First impressions: Might be the first battlefield game I don't buy on launch.

Graphically it's real nice but man do I hate this operator system. Everyone looks the loving same what the hell were they thinking?

That and basically eliminating the class system is a real downer. Snipers can carry RPGs, everyone gets sensor balls, etc... In all the other battlefields I could look at an enemy and at a glance get a rough idea what their capabilities are, now that wookie could be a medic or disable my tank.

While it's a visual and audio treat the gameplay just feels like mush.

Modern big budget media, including video games, being largely mediocre mush is due to design by focus group and risk aversion on the part of investors. EA and other big developers are constantly trying to find ways to bring as many new people as possible to their products, and so you get things like BF2042 playing like CoD on a Battlefield map with new hero shooter style bullshit via the specialists in the hopes of attracting the CoD and Apex/Fortnite/whatever crowds. It doesn't matter if old school Battlefield fans like the changes because most of them will just begrudgingly stick around anyway and get used to the poo poo.

and maybe that's all entirely wrong in this scenario and BF2042 is what it is simply because of brain drain and hiring lovely new talent who sincerely believe in their vision idk

either way in a few years BF2042 will be technically fixed up into great shape and everyone will be bitching about the new in-game hero skill tree progression system and AI creep exp grinding introduced for BF2043

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

I feel like I can't aim for poo poo, even more than usual. The vehicle judder is wild

Super fun though

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

I asked this before earlier in the thread, but is there seriously no way to view the map while you're alive in this game?

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF

Caesar Saladin posted:

I asked this before earlier in the thread, but is there seriously no way to view the map while you're alive in this game?

Currently no it's bugged

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

Well at least it wasn't an incredibly dumb design decision.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Melman v2
DICE: Should we ship the demo without a working map? I mean even Warzone has one.

EA: GOD loving damnit DICE we can't loving DELAY the DEMO again, people paid preorder money for this poo poo and SONY is up our rear end

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

Lol it crashed my driver's and my pc is about to overheat

Before that though it feels impossible to actually hit and kill

RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Oct 9, 2021

cmdrk
Jun 10, 2013
i preordered this here game and the first night was really fun, and then some of the shinyness wore off and I found myself having significantly less fun tonight and last night. this has probably all been said a million times in the thread already.. but the following seem egregiously bad to me:

- lack of a map?
- no cardinal directions on the map? I guess you can turn off rotation
- the new ping behavior. i guess you ping to get your turrets and robot dogs to shoot at stuff? i really don't understand it and it is rather frustrating to use
- the new sector thing with letter designations and numeric sub-designations? I don't get it. Why not just alpha, beta, .. like every other game in the series?
- no way to change attachments before deploying?
- lack of a scoreboard? deaths aren't tracked anymore?

I hope i'm just not hitting the right buttons or something :ohdear:
i found it really difficult to coordinate with my squadmates in general, the teamplay aspects seem way toned down compared to previous iterations of the series.

i also really don't understand how to shoot down helos. for example, we had 3 guys in a squad with AA, established locks, waited for helos to drop flares, and then fired after re-acquiring lock. every single missile simply missed or was dodged. how in the gently caress? is it buggyness in hit detection or did they tone down AA capability in this iteration? they were giving me flashbacks to circle strafing helos in the original Vietnam :v:

i'd kinda love to cancel my preorder at this point but i think i'm stuck thanks to buying it on Greenman. :shrug:

edit: reading backscroll i see that some of my complaining is just bugs

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

cmdrk posted:

the teamplay aspects seem way toned down compared to previous iterations of the series.

EA hired a crack team of elite data scientists and behavioural psychologists, fed them a decade’s worth of extremely granular metrics data collected across their entire catalogue of online games, and unveiled a stunning truth: The majority of people playing online games are dumbfucks who don’t care about team play or higher level objectives beyond their personal KDR and progression points, so why keep trying to force those square pegs into a round hole

cmdrk
Jun 10, 2013

Wheeee posted:

EA hired a crack team of elite data scientists and behavioural psychologists, fed them a decade’s worth of extremely granular metrics data collected across their entire catalogue of online games, and unveiled a stunning truth: The majority of people playing online games are dumbfucks who don’t care about team play or higher level objectives beyond their personal KDR and progression points, so why keep trying to force those square pegs into a round hole

damnit, i'd love to be a dumbfuck and look at my KDR but i don't even see the 'D' much less the 'R' in the scoreboard or lackthereof.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
Not sure where the praise for the visuals really comes from. It's got no art design to speak of, which makes the whole specialists thing ironic when they all look incredibly generic, and fidelity-wise it's...fine. About BF4 level in most cases? I don't think it looks as sharp as BF1, especially in terms of player models and animations, but even the way the landscape is rendered looks fuzzier. What it does have (for better or worse) is scale though, looking down from a tower makes you think "that's a big map!"

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

There's so many aircraft in this loving game. And the anti air missile locks so slow and each plane has so many flares that I've started just trying to snipe with the recoilless rifle because people just hover ten feet off the ground and shoot rockets in your face.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic
You can turn off camera shake from explosions, would highly recommend.

Charles 1998
Sep 27, 2007

by VideoGames

Mordja posted:

Not sure where the praise for the visuals really comes from. It's got no art design to speak of, which makes the whole specialists thing ironic when they all look incredibly generic, and fidelity-wise it's...fine. About BF4 level in most cases? I don't think it looks as sharp as BF1, especially in terms of player models and animations, but even the way the landscape is rendered looks fuzzier. What it does have (for better or worse) is scale though, looking down from a tower makes you think "that's a big map!"

For comparison, this is the Battlefield 3 beta. It has lower quality textures, models, and lighting, but somehow looks better? Hope it's not nostalgia goggles.

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


Seriously I can't understate how much the Operator system ruins the flow of the game visually. Just had a situation where I died because me and another Mackay were defending a point. I turn around a corner and see Mackay. I hesitate thinking it's the teammate, except it's not my teammate it's an enemy Mackay and he shoots me in the face. Two more Mackays run over my corpse while I wait for a revive. I know there's HUD indicators on friendlies but it's woefully inadequate.

Like compare that to BF1 where every class and faction had a distinct uniform and visual silhouette. It's maddening they went in this direction. Like the bugs, whatever. Helicopters teleporting around like loving Goku, fine. All that can be fixed, but they really hosed it all up by ditching the class system for this crap and I doubt that's fixable.

Mr Luxury Yacht fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Oct 9, 2021

kloa
Feb 14, 2007


I mean, just a page or two ago someone posted comparison videos between 2042 and 3/4/5. They all look much better than what this beta is sadly :sigh:

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
WTF...I'm trying to play some BF1 but Origin's saying it's not installed even though it's sitting right there, taking up 80 gigs on my hard drive.

E: "Reinstalling" detected it, still weird.

Mordja fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Oct 9, 2021

Dr. Fishopolis
Aug 31, 2004

ROBOT

CuddleCryptid posted:

There's so many aircraft in this loving game. And the anti air missile locks so slow and each plane has so many flares that I've started just trying to snipe with the recoilless rifle because people just hover ten feet off the ground and shoot rockets in your face.

Eh, I found them to be exactly like BF4s launchers. Hold the lock long enough and the pilot will get nervous and pop flares, re-lock as soon as you can and fire away. Don't go for the scout helis, you'll never hit them if the pilot is awake.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

ahahaha Mackay losing his poo poo if you RAMP IT in a scout vehicle repeatedly rules

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

MMMPH MMMPPHH MPPPH GLUCK GLUCK OH SORRY I DIDNT SEE YOU THERE I WAS JUST CHOKING DOWN THIS BATTLEFIELD COCK DID YOU KNOW BATTLEFIELD IS THE BEST VIDEO GAME EVER NOW IF YOULL EXCUSE ME ILL GO BACK TO THIS BATTLECOCK
It has absolutely atrocious LOD pop in, I have no idea why people think it looks good

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
Also: why is it so hard to figure out the exact capture zone from the minimap, not sure it's even demarcated at all.

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Certainly didn't miss helicopter supremacy from 1 and V. This poo poo is ridiculous.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Melman v2

Mordja posted:

Not sure where the praise for the visuals really comes from. It's got no art design to speak of, which makes the whole specialists thing ironic when they all look incredibly generic, and fidelity-wise it's...fine. About BF4 level in most cases? I don't think it looks as sharp as BF1, especially in terms of player models and animations, but even the way the landscape is rendered looks fuzzier. What it does have (for better or worse) is scale though, looking down from a tower makes you think "that's a big map!"

Charles 1998 posted:

For comparison, this is the Battlefield 3 beta. It has lower quality textures, models, and lighting, but somehow looks better? Hope it's not nostalgia goggles.


2042 Beta looks very good, but so do the old games, so it's really been small improvements over time, not big leaps. The biggest change was the photogrammetry introduced in Battlefront 1 (the third) and Battlefield 1, so the rocks started looking a lot better. And 2042 is actually missing a few effects like the godrays. The water also looks a bit worse, but still very good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWeVCaJOiZ4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1uA1WR493Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOFxyBmqjfg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bUvHlTsUFU

Assepoester fucked around with this message at 11:37 on Oct 9, 2021

Sammus
Nov 30, 2005

As long as I can keep doing this, I'm in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1-WI31qgOc

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

i was wondering if i was just crazy/blinded by nostalgia so i installed BFV today and on balance it actually does look a lot better than BF2042; the new game is obviously built on newer tech and has higher visual fidelity in most cases, but they did a worse job of implementation, at least in this demo build

as others keep saying tho all the technical problems with BF2042 will be smoothed out just in time for us all to get mad at the broken shitpile sequel, this is the circle of battlefield life

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM
Game sucks.

Super floaty.

Visually ugly, totally unimpressive.

Stupid rear end operator system.

Still absolutely 100% dominated by air power. People think you're firing AA missiles but they're really just requests for the choppers to give you a cool pyrotechnic flare lightshow while they continue to blow your poo poo up.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic

Sammus posted:

As long as I can keep doing this, I'm in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1-WI31qgOc

Im guessing 2 man demo teams are possible, uav driver has an ammo box, someone else has c4, load up the uav, blow it up, fly it back, reload.

Like in the good old days.

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Captain Beans
Aug 5, 2004

Whar be the beans?
Hair Elf
lol so this UI from the earlier test is legit whats going to be in the game huh? yikes

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