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https://twitter.com/SleeplessDomain/status/1448166905030844416 So Goops did this before, with Anemone?
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Oh poo poo, when Anemone talked about Goops, she had the Forgetful Eyes:
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Oct 13, 2021 07:33
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Ah, see, she's helping. Everything's gonna be fine.
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Oct 13, 2021 07:33
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https://twitter.com/aaronlinguini/status/1004116559571312640?lang=en
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Oct 13, 2021 08:06
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This is totally cool and not terrifying!
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Oct 13, 2021 15:03
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Does this suggest that being bitten by the monsters infects you with whatever Goops is and causes those nightmares the hospital was talking about? https://www.sleeplessdomain.com/comic/chapter-9-page-20
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Oct 13, 2021 18:50
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Goops: "They'll never let us into the movie theater looking like this." Cassidy: "It'll be fine, just borrow a trenchcoat. Also, can we get caramel popcorn?"
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Oct 13, 2021 18:55
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Does this suggest that being bitten by the monsters infects you with whatever Goops is and causes those nightmares the hospital was talking about? I think we're getting a peek into what monsters really are. My personal theory is that the monsters are nightmares. That when the inner barrier covers the city during the night, it taps into the populace's dreams (the woman in white has interacted with Undine's dreams a couple of times but only when she's been asleep with the barrier up, which I don't think is a coincidence) and harvests them for power to fuel the outer barrier (the static effect on it looks exactly like the effect on people's eyes when they try to remember something they dreamed and forgot). But nightmares can't be used for this purpose and get spat out into the street as monsters so they don't mess up the rest of the system. Perhaps when they infect people they're just trying to get back home - and Goops is using that same pathway here.
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Oct 13, 2021 19:30
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The Tessa thing did seem almost too obvious for Cagle. And hollllly poo poo.
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Tenebrais posted:I think we're getting a peek into what monsters really are. This is a cool theory, but it raises the question of why the outer barrier exists at all. The story is that it's to protect from monsters on the outside, but if monsters are just incidentally caused by the fueling of the outer barrier, that would have to be wrong. Really interested in seeing more about the guy from the outside.
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What I find really interested is the text in the background: YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND I DON'T WANT TO BE HERE IT'S NOT RIGHT LET ME OUT IT HAS TO STOP WHY I DON'T BELONG IN HERE Acebuckeye13 fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Oct 14, 2021 |
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Oct 14, 2021 02:15
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Goops confirmed as a Radiohead fan
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Oct 14, 2021 03:03
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Well this qualifies as a massive lore dump.
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Oct 14, 2021 04:32
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Interesting that these pages do have alt text.
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girl dick energy posted:Interesting that these pages do have alt text. The first page's is "Loading Playlist" and the second is System 0. Goops has good taste in background music.
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Oct 14, 2021 20:44
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Character poll closes late on Friday! Get your votes in if you haven't already!
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blastron posted:The first page's is "Loading Playlist" and the second is System 0. Goops has good taste in background music. Tessa looking to talk about anything else: Are all these songs so literal Goops: no no Also Goops: hits play on Dead Angle and Prison Strip
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https://www.sleeplessdomain.com/comic/chapter-page-3 Oh good, something pleasant and totally normal to focus on. (According to Cube's patreon, this is Tessa's capital-D Dream.)
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Those are the same flowers/tree leaves seen at the edge of the outer barrier https://www.sleeplessdomain.com/comic/chapter-17-page-12 Tessa's Dream being a queen carried by her friends is pretty loaded....
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Looking forward to finally seeing one of these, and I expect to have even more questions after this.
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Oct 17, 2021 04:40
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That alt text is not encouraging. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRq0S_0FjkE Edit: The lyrics Goops is hiding aren't exactly encouraging, either! You know, just a regular, good old-fashioned parade where you're being carried by your faceless friends to the sound of a song about drowning out your misery in the spectacle of society! girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 07:44 on Oct 17, 2021 |
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I wonder how much the dream is the girl's subconscious and how much of it is something chosen by the Woman in White. Or something to do with destiny, I don't know. Like, is the fact that Tessa is being carried by her friends indicative of her relative potential and power to the rest of them, and that she was destined to become their leader? Or is it indicative of Tessa having a sense of inflated self-importance compared to the rest of them and seeing herself as a de-facto queen bee/leader of their friend group pre-powers (and/or expecting herself to become the Sailor Moon of the group, like "oh of course my powers would be the strongest")?
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I'm guessing the dreams are a mix of various metaphors Feels appropriately dream like to do something like that. If this sequence is any indication https://www.sleeplessdomain.com/comic/chapter-6-page-21 https://www.sleeplessdomain.com/comic/chapter-6-page-23 (The dialog here is pretty important too....) Undine's dream had her team represented by jellyfish, glowing, floating upward as she sunk down into the darkness. There's lots of ways to read into that.
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That Undyne was the first of her friends to have The Dream makes it extra unusual (or just extra  ) in its significance.
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Speaking of which, I was just looking at that. Tessa's look in the final panel can be read in a lot of ways. She looks vaguely upset and not at all excited like the others. Is she upset that Undine is in danger? Upset that the dynamic of their friend group might be changing? Upset that maybe some of them will be left out as far as who gets powers? Upset that she didn't get her powers first?
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Tiny Myers posted:Is she upset that Undine is in danger? Upset that the dynamic of their friend group might be changing? Upset that maybe some of them will be left out as far as who gets powers? Upset that she didn't get her powers first? It comes up from time to time in the Discord that Tessa's whole deal feels very familiar to anyone who was a gifted kid growing up. She was just a naturally better magical girl than anyone around her, and got all the attention and fame and was just plain used to it to the point it caused some bitterness among her friends. Then she ran into actually failing at something, with serious consequences, and fell into a spiral as she realised she doesn't actually have much going for her. Personally I think we can read that attitude a little further back too, to before they became magical girls - if she was already used to being treated as the best and most special girl for being a non-metaphorically gifted kid then she could easily slide into that same position as a magical girl. And that means reading that expression as shock and jealousy - she's so used to being the special one and yet here the cosmic powers-that-be that give people powers picked Undine over her. And given other dialogue we've seen in flashbacks Tessa was probably the last of her team to receive powers, so she kept getting hit with not being the Important One up until suddenly she was all over again.
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This is the second webcomic where I've seen Parade used as an alt-text soundtrack. In the other (K6BD) that character ended up getting a lot of people killed out of spite.
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So what you're saying is that Tessa would eat the worm?
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Tenebrais posted:It comes up from time to time in the Discord that Tessa's whole deal feels very familiar to anyone who was a gifted kid growing up. She was just a naturally better magical girl than anyone around her, and got all the attention and fame and was just plain used to it to the point it caused some bitterness among her friends. Then she ran into actually failing at something, with serious consequences, and fell into a spiral as she realised she doesn't actually have much going for her. These are all really good points. Especially combined with this page:  Lines like "she uses her powers as an excuse to boss us around" and "she thinks she's actually more important than us". I think in some ways, Tessa did get used to feeling as if she was better than those around her, because things came easier to her, and her self-esteem became heavily predicated upon that. Like obviously she cares about her friends and isn't a narcissist or anything, she's just, you know, the protagonist of her own story in her head, as many young teens are. Right after that discussion, she decides to leave to prove to both herself and her team that she is as important as she thinks she is. And then later on, being torn between wanting to feel like that necessary, powerful part of their team and caring about her friends.  Which obviously ends badly and she blames herself for not valuing them more or for valuing herself above them and her worldview/self-esteem instantly shatters. "Any one of you deserves to live more than I do."  Man this webcomic is so good and I find new stuff to appreciate every time I go back and reread it. I'm on tenterhooks waiting for the next page.
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Seconding that, honestly Sleepless Domain has been going from strength to strength ... more or less for the entire run.
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It's a very good comic. Great art, great writing, good pacing, Cagle has really been knocking it out of the park.
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Oct 18, 2021 01:17
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Oct 18, 2021 03:16
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One of the few flaws of this comic is that we don't see those two more often.
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Tiny Myers posted:These are all really good points. Especially combined with this page: Some of that first page is Sally being Sally. She's firey, abrasive, and doesn't like being told what to do. While Tessa has a superiority complex, Sally has an inferiority complex and lashes out and as a result, gets most of the group killed. She could do things like not rely on the rest of the group to take notes for her or figure out better ways to use her powers, but nope. Teen girl gonna teen girl. A lot of Tessa's problem is that she feels like she HAS to carry the group because she does. Here's Sally on a normal night. At the same time, her position and powers are destroying her friend group and you can see her quietly approaching a breakdown through the second chapter. She's about to cry in this last panel here. I think that walking away at the cafe was less about proving superiority and more just, "I can't loving deal with this." I feel like there's more and someone did a really good job pointing out that Tessa was low-key depressed long before she got to "any of you deserves to live more than I do."
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I feel like 'Sally got the group killed' is about as fair as 'Tessa got the group killed.' None of these teens were making good decisions, because everything around Magical Girls is sort of geared to minimize the perception of risk, and I don't think Tessa's superiority complex is either arguable or more to blame for her friends dying than the literal nightmare specter scheming to assassinate them. E: The literal next page has Tessa pointing to her own face and saying "LEA. DER." to explain why she should always take the finishing blow. She and Sally are precisely matched in how the team's dysfunction works. Honestly it's a lot like a team of teens with a school project: The one with prior experience or aptitude does all the work, encouraging the rookies to slack off. The rookies feel like they don't get to make decisions so they half-rear end it, and the one with experience feels like they have to make all the decisions so starts resenting them. Both parties ought to be trying to get the less experienced/talented team members up to par with the team leader, but neither party is actually trying to make that happen. The dynamics are pretty common, and as the kid who always carried the team project in high school... yeah, that was also on me, not just on my teammates who slacked off, even though at the time I was convinced I was obviously being saintlike and self-sacrificing by taking charge. Joe Slowboat fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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Sylvia has her own reasons to resent Tessa's role: she was dependent on her MG income as sole earner for her family, so she needed Tessa to give her more air time (cough) This led her to just continuously enable Sally's anxieties (not that she would like to listen to Sally herself) Gwen just shuts off, leaving Tessa to rely on Undine to back her up, but Undine just wants to be peacemaker... just a toxic group dynamic all around. Really well-portrayed in so few pages 
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Yeah it's very clearly a friend group that was going to have some kind of blow-up eventually... but they all got magic powers as a magical girl team, so the blow-up was capitalized on by Goops and had casualties.
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Joe Slowboat posted:I feel like 'Sally got the group killed' is about as fair as 'Tessa got the group killed.' It’s so great because the knee jerk reaction for most people reading would be to assign blame to someone so you start looking for “who’s really responsible for the group falling apart?” And the more you look you realize, no one is to blame here, they’re just kids acting the way kids do. And that to me makes the whole situation even more heartbreaking because while it feels like Goops may have targeted team alchemical to get a very powerful prize, this whole exact thing could have happened to probably any MG team. Well probably not Team Melty though, because those two are perfect for each other.
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Tiny Myers posted:Oh my god I never noticed Bud in the last panel of this  Still probably my favorite panel from this entire comic lol
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