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Krogort
Oct 27, 2013
TTK is probably quicker than BFV and tons of internet people complained that BFV had a too quick TTK and that this went against the spirit of the battlefield franchise

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Collapsing Farts
Jun 29, 2018

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Like so many others I went back to Battlefield V and while I acknowledge that it has become better (the new maps is what I noticed most, they're actually good) I'm still not feeling it. Maybe it's just that I'm tired of WW2? There's just something very off about Battlefield V

Chikimiki
May 14, 2009

codo27 posted:

Forever unreal to me that people think being able to survive several clips of high caliber ammunition from close range is an essential feature in a shootmans game. If anything it was still a little bit too slow in the beta

High TTK is good, it means my old rear end can keep up with the coked up twitch streamers :v:

Aphex-
Jan 29, 2006

Dinosaur Gum
People are guessing that this Hazard Zone mode might be like Tarkov. Sounds plausible.

Songbearer
Jul 12, 2007




Fuck you say?
BFTarkov sounds a lot like the Fortnite vs PUBG "Let's take this jank game and make it good with our Big Budget Bux"

but you know, it's :dice:, so for a fractional value of "good"

Qmass
Jun 3, 2003

Aphex- posted:

People are guessing that this Hazard Zone mode might be like Tarkov. Sounds plausible.
IMO its more likely to be like the hunt because the backend of tarkov is a MASSIVE undertaking and probably > 50% of the experience. Tarkov is a loot simulator more than a mil sim. I don't see them developing all of that for a secondary game mode. I hope im wrong though because a slightly more casual tarkov would be awesome.

DrPop
Aug 22, 2004


The only way that Hazard Zone could even come close to emulating Tarkov would be by just being a nigh-unplayable buggy mess, which Tarkov occasionally is and the 2042 Beta absolutely was.

The engine and gameplay I saw in the beta is not capable of providing anything close to Tarkov's gameplay.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

DrPop posted:

The only way that Hazard Zone could even come close to emulating Tarkov would be by just being a nigh-unplayable buggy mess, which Tarkov occasionally is and the 2042 Beta absolutely was.

The engine and gameplay I saw in the beta is not capable of providing anything close to Tarkov's gameplay.

Yeah it's going to be more akin to The Hunt and the Dark Zone in Division 2

Charles 1998
Sep 27, 2007

by VideoGames
It's going to suck loving rear end just like the rest of the game.

Thirsty Dog
May 31, 2007

Charles 1998 posted:

It's going to suck loving rear end just like the rest of the game.

Man, you really have taken the beta personally

Jokerpilled Drudge
Jan 27, 2010

by Pragmatica
are we at the bargaining stage yet or still stuck in denial

Hot Diggity!
Apr 3, 2010

SKELITON_BRINGING_U_ON.GIF
I am going to play Battlefield 2042 and have fun doing it

Rusty
Sep 28, 2001
Dinosaur Gum
I'm buying 2042 despite numerous misgivings about the beta, but the fact is, it is close to the only game in town for this type of game. I hope portal is as good as it looks and has popular servers.

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

I'm curious to finally hear what hazard zone is because whatever it is it's inevitably going to disappoint a whole lot of people who pinned all their hopes and dreams on this last unannounced mode. I'm also expecting a scaled down BR a la The Hunt but the word tarkov has been thrown around so much when discussing it and I just don't think they can jam the stuff that makes Tarkov interesting in that engine. Tarkov feels pretty impenetrable to a newbie so I don't think a more streamlined version of that would necessarily be a bad thing but I really don't have much faith that they can do it justice with everything else that kinda sucks about this game as of the beta.

kri kri
Jul 18, 2007

https://twitter.com/Battlefield/status/1448302632020361219

15 billion bullets for friendlies

I have not played the hunt or division - are these games PvP or PvE?

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

kri kri posted:

https://twitter.com/Battlefield/status/1448302632020361219

15 billion bullets for friendlies

I have not played the hunt or division - are these games PvP or PvE?

PvPvE-ish, squad against squad against squad against AI. Collect loot, collect objectives and make it out to the extraction point. If you're killed you're out

kri kri
Jul 18, 2007

jisforjosh posted:

PvPvE-ish, squad against squad against squad against AI. Collect loot, collect objectives and make it out to the extraction point. If you're killed you're out

Thanks, sounds interesting

Also hell yeah bf friends is back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSsc1K27gek

Collapsing Farts
Jun 29, 2018

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Rusty posted:

I'm buying 2042 despite numerous misgivings about the beta, but the fact is, it is close to the only game in town for this type of game. I hope portal is as good as it looks and has popular servers.

Charles 1998
Sep 27, 2007

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Thirsty Dog posted:

Man, you really have taken the beta personally

How?


Rusty posted:

I'm buying 2042 despite numerous misgivings about the beta, but the fact is, it is close to the only game in town for this type of game. I hope portal is as good as it looks and has popular servers.

I had this same line of reasoning but then I went back and tried Battlefield 1, V, and 4. Had way more fun and realized I didn't need the latest version to scratch that itch.

After playing the beta, I'm doubtful the other game modes will be any better.

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Charles 1998 posted:

How?

I had this same line of reasoning but then I went back and tried Battlefield 1, V, and 4. Had way more fun and realized I didn't need the latest version to scratch that itch.

After playing the beta, I'm doubtful the other game modes will be any better.

I'm sure you can make an all sniper mode in portal that you'd like

Charles 1998
Sep 27, 2007

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Fried Watermelon posted:

I'm sure you can make an all sniper mode in portal that you'd like

I'm sure they'll make a mode just for you where you can drink Andrew Wilson's cum.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

Charles 1998 posted:

I'm sure they'll make a mode just for you where you can drink Andrew Wilson's cum.

You cancelled your preorder yet you're still here.

Charles 1998
Sep 27, 2007

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jisforjosh posted:

You cancelled your preorder yet you're still here.

Yes.

Eastbound Spider
Jan 2, 2011



Posting is the true battlefield

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
Melman v2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSufJgCXwnw

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

MMMPH MMMPPHH MPPPH GLUCK GLUCK OH SORRY I DIDNT SEE YOU THERE I WAS JUST CHOKING DOWN THIS BATTLEFIELD COCK DID YOU KNOW BATTLEFIELD IS THE BEST VIDEO GAME EVER NOW IF YOULL EXCUSE ME ILL GO BACK TO THIS BATTLECOCK
People keep saying The Hunt, but I'm assuming they mean Hunt: Showdown and I'm only adding this correction for anyone interested in checking it out because it's my current favorite game and it's a really fun cowboy simulator (plus it has some guns from BF1)

Dead Like Rev
Sep 6, 2010

"The dead walk among us."



jisforjosh posted:

You cancelled your preorder yet you're still here.

He's a literal forum troll / thread shitter. Peep the rap sheet, its a loving wild ride.

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica
what a jerk!

Charles 1998
Sep 27, 2007

by VideoGames

Dead Like Rev posted:

He's a literal forum troll / thread shitter. Peep the rap sheet, its a loving wild ride.

The meaning of "troll" is so watered down and meaningless. People think I'm trolling because I don't think snipers are useless.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

BLAAAAAARGH PLEASE KILL ME BLAAAAAAAARGH
Grimey Drawer
I love how we are all talking specialists like there wont be the one skin sold that unintentionally actively is better than the rest which then becomes the defacto only skin we will ever see.

Guns being linked to class is a bit whatever so every specialist being able to use whatever weapon is fine. Im not sure who thinks that is the complaint. But it is nice when you load in to go oh my team has two anti armor and a sniper, guess ill be the medic and having that feedback.

Maybe with squad comms and the commrose in the main game thatll be better but in its state in the beta my squad mates were just places to spawn and nothing else. Literally no feedback on what the squad is doing or whatever. Do we all have medkits? Do we all have ammo packs? Is everyone running missiles? . And the argument that because its "casual" people dont expect that seems spurious. im casual and I liked having a squad that could work together a bit even if it was just noticing that my anti armor pub teammate would need ammo at some point.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


The United States posted:

The TTK seems incredibly low to me, but also hard to judge because of the lag.

I'm under the impression Battlefield has always had a High TTK. I don't want this to end up like Squad or Arma where it's just one or two shots and you are out.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

ZeusCannon posted:

I love how we are all talking specialists like there wont be the one skin sold that unintentionally actively is better than the rest which then becomes the defacto only skin we will ever see.

Guns being linked to class is a bit whatever so every specialist being able to use whatever weapon is fine. Im not sure who thinks that is the complaint.

Yeah the people not being forward thinking enough to see that issue never experienced the Warzone plague that was the original Rook skin for Roze.

Collapsing Farts
Jun 29, 2018

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I want to play assault with a shotgun in BFV but the game is forcing me to be the ammo guy. This is bad. In 2042 I can be an assault-man with a grappling hook and shotgun. This is good

Chikimiki
May 14, 2009
I think the bigger issue than everyone having access to all guns is that the gadgets are badly organized: why would people pick the ammocrate instead of the rocket launcher (arguably the most useful gadget in bf games), unless they were coordinating with friends or achievement hunting?

VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
I AM, AND ALWAYS WILL BE, UNFUCKABLE AND A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT TO EVERYONE. DAE WANNA CUM PLAY WITH ME!?




Where are my big titty car girl skins?

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

MMMPH MMMPPHH MPPPH GLUCK GLUCK OH SORRY I DIDNT SEE YOU THERE I WAS JUST CHOKING DOWN THIS BATTLEFIELD COCK DID YOU KNOW BATTLEFIELD IS THE BEST VIDEO GAME EVER NOW IF YOULL EXCUSE ME ILL GO BACK TO THIS BATTLECOCK
I will never not laugh at players trying to upend years of design, balance, or any other gameplay decisions by basically just saying "I want x, why can't I do it!". Like a toddler upset he can't have cake for dinner everyday (spoiler alert he can but it won't be good in the long run)

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Skyarb posted:

I will never not laugh at players trying to upend years of design, balance, or any other gameplay decisions by basically just saying "I want x, why can't I do it!". Like a toddler upset he can't have cake for dinner everyday (spoiler alert he can but it won't be good in the long run)

I really dont get it either.

BF4 was the best implementation of cross-class gadgets and weapons.

Keshik
Oct 27, 2000

I preordered after playing the open beta and then immediately canceled my preorder cause I thought about it some more and there was one thing that irked me.

I spent like 45 minute as a recon flying a drone over the warehouse that's kinda halfway between the launchpad and the VAB, spotting fuckin tons of their guys for our infantry and tanks to splatter. I had a grand old time. Even occasionally popped out of cover myself to snipe fuckers on the rooftops when they were sitting still.

And after those 45 minutes I realized I hadn't gotten one single spot assist. No XP for it, no credit in the score, nothing. That sucked hard. I'm not always on the top of my game so I love playing recon and just spotting the enemy, or playing medic and being a mad lad just sprinting from one revive to another.

I got tired of the same old maps of BF5 over and over, and BF1 never clicked for me. Firestorm was, imo, the absolutely best BR yet produced, but I know I'm in the minority.

I dunno, the more I think about it the more I think I really missed the simple little thing of seeing minor score bonuses scrolling, like just seeing a little "+10 resupply" for people grabbing ammo from your box. That made me feel like I was contributing even when I was vibing on edibles and building fortifications.

I hope I come to love this thing but I didn't like the beta as much as I wanted to.

ZeusCannon
Nov 5, 2009

BLAAAAAARGH PLEASE KILL ME BLAAAAAAAARGH
Grimey Drawer
I will say since the commrose and all squad gameplay was removed from the beta maybe the point incentives for teamwork will be added in the main game like the comms are supposed to be?


Still yeah its noticeably missing and part of my complaint against this iteration of Bf.

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AcidCat
Feb 10, 2005

Keshik posted:

I dunno, the more I think about it the more I think I really missed the simple little thing of seeing minor score bonuses scrolling, like just seeing a little "+10 resupply" for people grabbing ammo from your box. That made me feel like I was contributing even when I was vibing on edibles and building fortifications.

Hehe. You're not wrong. It's a little thing, but it's nice to get even a small token reward for contributing to your team effort in those ancillary ways.

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