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Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Bad Purchase posted:

if we can make real inflation happen at a higher rate than we pay interest on our debt, then the dumb idiots who bear the risk of default by holding our bonds are also effectively paying us for the privilege

no, idiot you are going to pay for it. When was the last time that Windows or Amazon paid for the loving crack in your street?

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Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost
Inflation just makes you pay more for underpants

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Archer666 posted:

Honestly I feel like American conservatism is way too extreme for me to map any of my opinions on except for 2.

- Non binary gender is more of a fad than a real thing. (I'll still respect whoever wants to call themselves that, but its also like who gives a poo poo? Just be you.)
- If the field is equal enough (And in many countries its not), bootstrapping works.

Next level dumb. Everything in the brain is measured on a spectrum, and you think gender identity is somehow binary. Big brain take.

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.


-only morons think communism would actually work

lukevictorious
Mar 31, 2019

this is the water
Just loling at these abortion takes. The catholic church didn't care about abortion until the 19th century. The religious right didn't care about it and in fact were pro Roe v. Wade until they needed a new wedge issue besides segregation. Obviously it worked because it's laughable anyone would find it tragic. Safe legal and rare makes a handy liberal catchphrase but gently caress that noise. It should be safe, legal, and common.

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




Mumpy Puffinz posted:

no, idiot you are going to pay for it. When was the last time that Windows or Amazon paid for the loving crack in your street?

ackshually what you're talking about would be the same whether the federal budget ran a surplus or debt

Smugworth
Apr 18, 2003

I find it offensive when conservatives call liberals cucks because not everyone who enjoys the cuck lifestyle is liberal :mad:

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Bad Purchase posted:

ackshually what you're talking about would be the same whether the federal budget ran a surplus or debt

are stupid? It's ok if you are. I am too

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

no, idiot you are going to pay for it. When was the last time that Windows or Amazon paid for the loving crack in your street?

Nobody is going to pay for it because America actually does have unlimited money because, and I can't stress this enough, our money is worth however much we say it is and nobody can stop or challenge us

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost
you:

Who What Now posted:

Nobody is going to pay for it because America actually does have unlimited money because, and I can't stress this enough, our money is worth however much we say it is and nobody can stop or challenge us

The guy she told you not to worry about :
China

Plebian Parasite
Oct 12, 2012

I don't really care for neopronouns, I don't mind using preferred pronouns when it comes to he/she/they but i'm not sure how to pronounce xe and i'm not sure my mouth can even make that sound. It's never really come up among the people I know but I'd probably just default to calling them by their full name all the time as opposed to rewiring my brain with a new type of grammar.

Plebian Parasite fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Oct 15, 2021

Plebian Parasite
Oct 12, 2012

also it's cool to be rich as gently caress

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




Mumpy Puffinz posted:

are stupid? It's ok if you are. I am too

my post was responding to the debt vs surplus hand-wringers. being able to sell your debt with near-zero interest rates while inflation erodes the value faster than you pay interest means the debt holders are paying you for the risk they carry. i'm not saying that if you build a border wall and fund it with bond sales that the debt holders have paid for the whole border wall project -- however the government finances it, the funding is obviously still coming from tax payers. i'm just saying that in some circumstances the government choosing to go into debt makes more sense than funding the border wall outright with a balanced budget. unless you can make mexico pay for it.

Edit: the thing that will gently caress over the US government is deflation, not inflation.

Bad Purchase fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Oct 15, 2021

fishing with the fam
Feb 29, 2008

Durr
Weird how the conservative opinion thread is indistinguishable from a bad opinion thread. Must be a coincidence.

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Monarchies are good actually

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Smugworth posted:

I find it offensive when conservatives call liberals cucks because not everyone who enjoys the cuck lifestyle is liberal :mad:

it's always projection, cuck porn is basically indistinguishable from KKK propaganda about black men coming to steal white women

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Bad Purchase posted:

my post was responding to the debt vs surplus hand-wringers. being able to sell your debt with near-zero interest rates while inflation erodes the value faster than you pay interest means the debt holders are paying you for the risk they carry. i'm not saying that if you build a border wall and fund it with bond sales that the debt holders have paid for the whole border wall project -- however the government finances it, the funding is obviously still coming from tax payers. i'm just saying that in some circumstances the government choosing to go into debt makes more sense than funding the border wall outright with a balanced budget. unless you can make mexico pay for it.

Edit: the thing that will gently caress over the US government is deflation, not inflation.

Defaltion will gently caress over the american people. Its why Wendy's is looking into using machines.

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
Yes, thats the reason fast food has been funnelling money into automation for decades and decades: deflation :hmbol:

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Who What Now posted:

Yes, thats the reason fast food has been funnelling money into automation for decades and decades: deflation :hmbol:

I have no word for how much I hate you

Lascivious Sloth
Apr 26, 2008

by sebmojo

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

I have no word for how much I hate you

deflate my balls lol

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth
Dave Thomas' ghost screaming into the dreams of Wendy's CEO "DEFLATION IS COMING YOU FOOL! WE NEED ROBO BURGERS OR WE'LL NEVER SURVIIIIIIIIIIIVVVEEEEE!"

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




rampant chemical pollution of waterways is turning frogs gay

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Lascivious Sloth posted:

deflate my balls lol

you like that wouldn't you? you saucy bitch

Who What Now posted:

Dave Thomas' ghost screaming into the dreams of Wendy's CEO "DEFLATION IS COMING YOU FOOL! WE NEED ROBO BURGERS OR WE'LL NEVER SURVIIIIIIIIIIIVVVEEEEE!"

That is I said!

Guildenstern Mother
Mar 31, 2010

Why walk when you can ride?

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

you:

The guy she told you not to worry about :
China

Doesn't China still keep a huge portion of their reserves in dollars?

edit: Yes they do, the largest of any country, currently a bit more than 3 billion at last count.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Guildenstern Mother posted:

Doesn't China still keep a huge portion of their reserves in dollars?

edit: Yes they do, the largest of any country, currently a bit more than 3 billion at last count.

I know right?
It's everyone's problem if we default.

Economics is loving stupid

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY

Guildenstern Mother posted:

Doesn't China still keep a huge portion of their reserves in dollars?

edit: Yes they do, the largest of any country, currently a bit more than 3 billion at last count.

$3 billion? That seems pretty small for a large power like China.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

phasmid posted:

$3 billion? That seems pretty small for a large power like China.

It does doesn't it. Maybe China can see into the future.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Away all Goats posted:

Monarchies are good actually

The US presidential system is basically 1700s people thinking that you still need a powerful king to make the system work, and trying to work around the worst problems by making the position elected and time limited. Those were absolutely improvements, but it means the US is still stuck with having a single man be way too powerful.

Somewhat ironically, the remaining western monarchies evolved into "maybe giving a single person that much power is bad", which I prefer. Of course, there are republics with entirely symbolic presidents as well, but having a king or queen makes it so obviously stupid to give your single symbolic leader any power that it keeps (most) people from getting silly ideas.

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



Pansexual is just Bisexual but harder to explain.

Demisexual isn't real.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Computer viking posted:

The US presidential system is basically 1700s people thinking that you still need a powerful king to make the system work, and trying to work around the worst problems by making the position elected and time limited. Those were absolutely improvements, but it means the US is still stuck with having a single man be way too powerful.

Somewhat ironically, the remaining western monarchies evolved into "maybe giving a single person that much power is bad", which I prefer. Of course, there are republics with entirely symbolic presidents as well, but having a king or queen makes it so obviously stupid to give your single symbolic leader any power that it keeps (most) people from getting silly ideas.

is this why the electoral college is broken?

Dubplate Fire
Aug 1, 2010

:hfive: bruvs be4 luvs

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

why the gently caress would we ever want a surplus. As long as we pay our loving bills every once in a while, and our money is what everyone compares it to, it will cost us less and less, in the real sense. While we are top dog, inflation is a good thing. At least in the international sense

no one actually understands what the deficit is. its economically terrible to have a surplus

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Fashionable Jorts posted:

Pansexual is just Bisexual but harder to explain.

Demisexual isn't real.

whatever. I want to gently caress a demon or a half god

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




Guildenstern Mother posted:

Doesn't China still keep a huge portion of their reserves in dollars?

edit: Yes they do, the largest of any country, currently a bit more than 3 billion at last count.


phasmid posted:

$3 billion? That seems pretty small for a large power like China.

Wikipedia says China owns about $1T of federal treasuries. Japan owns about that much as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States#/media/File:Composition_of_U.S._Long-Term_Treasury_Debt_2000-2014.svg

Congrats to Belgium on 3rd place.

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Dubplate Fire posted:

no one actually understands what the deficit is. its economically terrible to have a surplus

I know. I explained it a couple of posts ago

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Bad Purchase posted:

Wikipedia says China owns about $1T of federal treasuries. Japan owns about that much as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States#/media/File:Composition_of_U.S._Long-Term_Treasury_Debt_2000-2014.svg

Congrats to Belgium on 3rd place.

wow. they should probably make sure our economy works

Wall Balls
Jun 3, 2007

Spanish Castle Magic

lying is a great way to avoid trouble and get what you want

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

i dont believe in wearing sunglasses indoors

Mumpy Puffinz
Aug 11, 2008
Nap Ghost

Earwicker posted:

i dont believe in wearing sunglasses indoors

it does happen. I have done it before

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



Earwicker posted:

i dont believe in wearing sunglasses indoors

Hats should always be taken off indoors.

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Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Mumpy Puffinz posted:

it does happen. I have done it before

you are a ghost so even if you did, you didn't.

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