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And it gets much worse, some serious anti-vax ultra-libertarians just casually wishing for widespread death, to preserve their freedoms, since "the vaccines don't work against getting infected and spreading COVID anyway". I'm checking out from HN forever, the fact that they just let this insanity fester is the last straw. Did the same with Reddit years ago, feels good. E: this is a previous comment in the thread, speaking of Nazis: quote:twofornone 6 hours ago [–] The "perfectly rational" comment he's referring to is someone saying that it's completely fine if people just shut down work if their employers require them to be vaccinated, because they consider the vaccine to be more dangerous than getting COVID. Perfectly rational 
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kloch 6 minutes ago [–] I don't think it's reasonable to compare cryptocurrencies to chain letters. Chain letters' sole purpose is to enrich early adopters at the expense of later participants. While early adopters of cryptocurrencies frequently do reap windfall gains, it is not necessarily at the expense of later users as it is with chain letters. The early adopter benefits for cryptocurrencies are no different than early investors in a business that goes on to produce a popular and successful product. Unlike chain letters cryptocurrencies provide a useful utility of a medium of exchange coupled with consensus based algorithmic scarcity. This is an attractive alternative to centrally planned fiat currencies that are persistently and intentionally debased over time. Whether the power usage is worth the utilitarian benefits to societey is certainly a valid debate and hopefully will lead to more efficient protocols. reply
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Mr.Radar posted:kloch 6 minutes ago [–]
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mystes posted:Cryptocurrencies are more like speculating in the stock market than chain letters. No, that's a good thing. cryptocurrency gains are at the expense of later users both because the hashing difficulty grows as more people get into it and also because of the limited supply of coins it means it is deflationary cryptocurrencies provide an useful utility of a medium of exchange in the same way as buying a new work laptop each morning is a useful utilisation of your company's budget
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should we update the thread title to "now serving a purpose since n-gate stopped" ?
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sgregnt 47 minutes ago | In my opinion a world is a much better place with people like Zuck.
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DuckConference posted:should we update the thread title to "now serving a purpose since n-gate stopped" ? did they? well let’s get some more suggestions for thread title going
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hn thread: pg's (no) funhouse
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hn thread: veni vidi vc
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VC? More like WC.
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hn thread: concentrated slashdot
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slashdot? more like slandot
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pcstl 32 minutes ago [–] I actually think in-game content is one of the most legitimate uses for NFTs. It's also cool that since the on-chain data doesn't go away if the game does, it allows for in-game collectables which are not tied to a specific game. Lots of possibilities there. reply
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Progressive JPEG posted:hn thread: concentrated slashdot
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fritz posted:pcstl 32 minutes ago [–] lol where do they think the content is exactly??
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mystes posted:I think slashdot was a bit different because during its peak people weren't getting figgies and optimistic about even bigger figgies so they were more about open source and hating their job and less about passive income rent seeking and cryptocurrency grifts. also posting ascii goatse
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mediaphage posted:lol where do they think the content is exactly?? i mean, if i can’t keep using my $30,000 in PoE cosmetics when everybody switches over to PoE 2, it’ll almost be like i wasted a shitload of money
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i do love those people. basically every game with a ton of cosmetics makes most of its money by selling those cosmetics. making cosmetics look good on your game’s character models takes a lot of time. so this entire idea is premised on game developers putting in years of work to wreck their own revenue streams
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it's such a fundamental misunderstanding of absolutely everything. cross-game cosmetics only make any sort of financial sense as a specific cross-marketing thing intended to get players of each game to try the other one, and adding nfts to the mix would just undermine that. cross-game functional items make even less sense. the idea of getting gear or a spaceship or whatever in one game and then using it in a different game is something that only someone who has never actually played a video game could think would work or be a good idea.
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rjmccall posted:i mean, if i can’t keep using my $30,000 in PoE cosmetics when everybody switches over to PoE 2, it’ll almost be like i wasted a shitload of money don’t look up 802.3bt-2018
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Plorkyeran posted:it's such a fundamental misunderstanding of absolutely everything. cross-game cosmetics only make any sort of financial sense as a specific cross-marketing thing intended to get players of each game to try the other one, and adding nfts to the mix would just undermine that. cross-game functional items make even less sense. the idea of getting gear or a spaceship or whatever in one game and then using it in a different game is something that only someone who has never actually played a video game could think would work or be a good idea. otoh my level 120 wow tank with 500k hitpoints will wreck face in baldur's gate
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rjmccall posted:otoh my level 120 wow tank with 500k hitpoints will wreck face in baldur's gate what's his save vs petrification
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mystes posted:I think slashdot was a bit different because during its peak people weren't getting figgies and optimistic about even bigger figgies so they were more about open source and hating their job and less about passive income rent seeking and cryptocurrency grifts. yeah i was mostly thinking of its long community decline over a few years where the sane or interesting people were quietly but steadily falling off, leaving behind a bunch of loud libertarians with the effect accelerating and feeding on itself over time until there wasn't anything left
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Progressive JPEG posted:yeah i was mostly thinking of its long community decline over a few years where the sane or interesting people were quietly but steadily falling off, leaving behind a bunch of loud libertarians with the effect accelerating and feeding on itself over time until there wasn't anything left
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but enough about yospos
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Achmed Jones posted:but enough about yospos
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FMguru posted:weirdly, no. the sa system of escalating probations and bans tends to drive off the most annoying and aggressive posters is this what goons honestly believe lol
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hobbesmaster posted:don’t look up 802.3bt-2018 i lol'd at this
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Plorkyeran posted:the idea of getting gear or a spaceship or whatever in one game and then using it in a different game is something that only someone who has never actually played a video game could think would work or be a good idea. can’t wait til the EU Parliament mandates it or President Xi President Xi, please, our DLC yearn for freedom
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fritz posted:pcstl 32 minutes ago [–] *looking at an insane man setting a pile of garbage on fire* lots of possibilities there
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Juul-Whip posted:did slashdot have upvotes and downvotes? i can't remember if they did but that seems to accelerate the death spiral everywhere it's used (Score: 5, Insightful)
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remember when 9/10 front page posts on Digg were about Ron Paul
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NihilCredo posted:is this what goons honestly believe lol where are stymie and fishmech now
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Juul-Whip posted:did slashdot have upvotes and downvotes? i can't remember if they did but that seems to accelerate the death spiral everywhere it's used They did, but it was an extremely weird system. Firstly, only like 1% of the users could vote at any given time (randomly selected on a weekly? basis), and you couldn't just vote up or down, you had to specify the reason why you wanted to up is down vote the comment, with the most-voted reason being displayed with the score on the comment. Votes were also limited to a range of IIRC -1 to +5. Co.ments from anonymous users started at +1 and comments from logged-in users started at +2. People who were not allowed to vote on the comments directly could instead vote whether they thought a given comment was over- or under-rated. This didn't change the actual comment score but instead acted as a way to rate how good the people who were voting voted which affected how frequently they would be selected to be able to vote. Additionally, participating in this "metamoderation" system increased the odds you would be selected to be able to vote.
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Mr.Radar posted:They did, but it was an extremely weird system. Firstly, only like 1% of the users could vote at any given time (randomly selected on a weekly? basis), and you couldn't just vote up or down, you had to specify the reason why you wanted to up is down vote the comment, with the most-voted reason being displayed with the score on the comment. Votes were also limited to a range of IIRC -1 to +5. Co.ments from anonymous users started at +1 and comments from logged-in users started at +2. This sounds right from what I remember, except I think anonymous started at either 0 or -1 and logged-in started at +1. Their scoring system is goofy in a lot of ways, but to be fair, any attempt at crowdsourcing moderation will probably be at least as goofy
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DaTroof posted:This sounds right from what I remember, except I think anonymous started at either 0 or -1 and logged-in started at +1. Their scoring system is goofy in a lot of ways, but to be fair, any attempt at crowdsourcing moderation will probably be at least as goofy That was all from memory from like 10 years ago so you could be right.
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DaTroof posted:This sounds right from what I remember, except I think anonymous started at either 0 or -1 and logged-in started at +1. Their scoring system is goofy in a lot of ways, but to be fair, any attempt at crowdsourcing moderation will probably be at least as goofy You could also set custom modifiers. So your account would set -4 funny +2 insightful, +2 interesting, anonymous -1 which would be added to whatever the moderators chose (still within the -1 to +5 range) and make the comments more suited to your wants. So the +5 funny In Soviet Russia joke would automatically get buried.
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DaTroof posted:This sounds right from what I remember, except I think anonymous started at either 0 or -1 and logged-in started at +1. Their scoring system is goofy in a lot of ways, but to be fair, any attempt at crowdsourcing moderation will probably be at least as goofy where they hosed up of course is not taking into account bad actors and "karma whoring", as well as actually displaying people's karma score, which of course lead to an arms race to see how high they could go/who could get the highest score. some account called Signal11 would do nothing but repost the summary in the comments and invariably get +5 very quickly, which no one bothered modding down. it took a lot of complaints about this "karma whoring" for the slashdot admins to even admit they did something wrong , let alone finally fix it.
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