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The framework laptop is cool. The inside is totally user-serviceable, even has QR codes so that a normie could look up how to do it. Every laptop oughta be like that.
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Did Linus say LTT wouldn't review laptops, or that he wouldn't review laptops?
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Fantastic Foreskin posted:Did Linus say LTT wouldn't review laptops, or that he wouldn't review laptops? He said he personally would not and that he would recuse himself from the entire process
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Oct 12, 2021 22:40
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VostokProgram posted:He said he personally would not and that he would recuse himself from the entire process He never said this.
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VostokProgram posted:He said he personally would not and that he would recuse himself from the entire process Nope! He led off with that as a hypothetical though! Fantastic Foreskin posted:Did Linus say LTT wouldn't review laptops, or that he wouldn't review laptops? Neither. Transcript d/l from youtube, sic: quote:The cleanest way to handle this, is to recuse myself from all decisions related to our editorial coverage of notebooks books. With the size and talent of our team. That's a legitimate option these days, frankly, I've had very little to do with it for a long time. Since there's been so little in the space, that's excited me, but my only issue with that is that means I'll be giving up the opportunity to talk to you guys about truly incredible machines that I am excited about. Like the ASUS RG flow X 13, that I've been daily driving for the last few months. Aside from some, yeah, we sent you a prototype, bugginess, I absolutely love that thing. It is so cool. So for that reason, I'm reluctant to completely bud out when there's still going to be stuff that I'm going to think is cool. And I'm going to want to talk about, what I know for sure is that even though I'm not ready to make a firm commitment to covering or not covering notebooks in the future, I will make a firm commitment to maintain the same level of honesty and transparency that you guys have come to expect from me. I will never say that I like something I don't, I won't hold back from anything I love. And I will keep you guys 100% apprised of the situation. Basically, he's gonna keep reviewing laptops, he's cool, you can trust your good pal Linus.
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Ethical Speech and Correct Speech means abstention from telling lies, from backbiting and slander and talk that may bring about hatred, enmity, disunity, and disharmony among individuals or groups of people, from harsh, rude, impolite, malicious, and abusive language, and from idle, useless, and foolish babble and gossip. When one abstains from these forms of wrong and harmful speech one naturally has to speak the truth, has to use words that are friendly and benevolent, pleasant and gentle, meaningful, and useful. One should not speak carelessly: speech should be at the right time and place. If one cannot say something useful, one should remain silent.
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Is it a conflict of interest if say, MKBHD or Gruber have a fuckload of Apple shares?
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well why not posted:Is it a conflict of interest if say, MKBHD or Gruber have a fuckload of Apple shares? Yes. 100%. Unless it is explicitly disclosed, within the video, by the individual themselves. Shipon posted:Comparing "he roughed up a laptop" to people spouting race war poo poo is a pretty flippant attitude to have toward the latter It’s not comparable. But it’s the same style of bullshit. There’s a reason there are so many legal regulations regarding marketing. Because it’s too easy to abuse celebrity trust to make a quick buck. I can’t say that I find it acceptable for any media member to pretend to be impartial when they are obviously not.
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well why not posted:Is it a conflict of interest if say, MKBHD or Gruber have a fuckload of Apple shares? Gruber specifically has always been very upfront that he refuses to buy individual stocks for exactly this reason. https://twitter.com/gruber/status/1305933710068416519?s=20 https://twitter.com/gruber/status/1306117172528324608?s=20
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Pilfered Pallbearers posted:Yes. 100%. Unless it is explicitly disclosed, within the video, by the individual themselves. The conflict of interest still exists even after you disclose it. The disclosure is just the bare minimum you need to do (particularly with stocks, where you might get in actual legal trouble over non-disclosure). The thing is, a conflict of interest in and of itself isn't a terrible violation. It's only bad if you let it influence you... or appear to influence you. And subconscious influence is a thing! Society Of Professional Journalists posted:Avoid conflicts of interest, real or perceived. Disclose unavoidable conflicts. (Now, do tons of actual journalists and like 99.9% of youtube completely fail these and other guidelines? Sure. Do better. Linus dove headfirst into a completely avoidable situation, he should be bending over backwards for other laptops.)
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Oct 13, 2021 01:06
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Linus roughing up a review sample is expected and normal
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Klyith posted:The conflict of interest still exists even after you disclose it. The disclosure is just the bare minimum you need to do (particularly with stocks, where you might get in actual legal trouble over non-disclosure). This is pretty perfectly stated. Avoid conflicts, and go out of your way when you can’t avoid it to be ridiculously clear that you may be biased. GN did a video recently, I forget which one, but I think it was the one where they explained when thermal cameras were appropriate for benchmarks. In the video every single time GN disagreed with someone else or said someone could be wrong, Steve repeated over and over that there was a conflict of interest, and that they could easily be biased in their opinion, and they may not be right because of it. It’s about as close to the gold standard you can get when there’s a conflict outside of avoiding it outright.
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:Yeah, so if you want to be told how to use your hardware and software with virtually no customization options exposed, then Apple makes stuff for you. You'd also be right to observe that they sell a ton of devices. lmao the condescension dripping off this post. You really hate it when people have different preferences than you, don't you?
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Canine Blues Arooo posted:I like it when my devices let me do things though, and 'detrimental customization' is only detrimental when you prefer being told what you can do, and how you can do it. The idea of modular IO is honestly enough for me to seriously consider a Framework device. Yes, the groundbreaking achievement of making USB C ports take up more space in the laptop case. Laptop expansion bays are NOT NEW, they have basically invented PCMCIA-ExpressCard, which consumers already said they don't want. edit: Did everyone forget about PCMCIA? I'm 40 and had a Novatel Merlin CDPD modem in whatever weird compact Sony laptop I had in with a wheel built into it in high school. 
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Oct 13, 2021 04:11
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Someone in the YOSPOS Apple thread said well done you’ve invented the dongle.
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njsykora posted:Someone in the YOSPOS Apple thread said well done you’ve invented the dongle. It's this. The big innovation is moving the USB C ports further into the computer so the dongle sits flush with the case? Okay.
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I mean that does solve my main complaint about dongles.
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Also can do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_uOzNt-xwY Person makes his own expansion cards. One is making a magsafe connector while the other is a hide away for his mouse rf transmitter.
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JuffoWup posted:Also can do this: So he invented Bluetooth and this:  ? I mean, I guess also this if Bluetooth existed at the time, the mouse actually fit into the computer. 
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if framework didn’t have the internal dongles it’d still be interesting
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Linus yapping about his new cable tester, also pointing out that there's a whole lot of esoteric bullshit in the cable world, which made me remember LTT's few contributions to audiophoolery in regards to headphones and receivers in the past, which is kind of ironic.
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This is the cringiest LTT video I've seen in a long time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coVxNAYPzWo
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Remember when Hasan Piker said America deserved 9/11 and got fired from The Young Turks?
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you can get fired for being correct?
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Mr.Radar posted:This is the cringiest LTT video I've seen in a long time: I think it's pretty funny
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well why not posted:you can get fired for being correct? let us know how you manage to be so edgy and cool
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Former Human posted:let us know how you manage to be so edgy and cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSyrFuAydD4
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Former Human posted:Remember when Hasan Piker said America deserved 9/11 and got fired from The Young Turks? I won't go far as to say who deserved what, but America is the world champion of committing and enabling 9/11s across the world
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Former Human posted:Remember when Hasan Piker said America deserved 9/11 and got fired from The Young Turks? Given the horrors you have unleashed in the decades after you deserved so much worse.
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well why not posted:you can get fired for being correct? He made a career out of it.
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Hm hm lets see what's going on in the YouTube Tech Idiots thread. Right to repair is something for poo poo-idiots like me who are comfortable working with microelectronics to be able to get the relevant documentation needed to service poo poo, order the parts, and install said parts without sending the product to the manufacturer. It's not about assuming away engineering compromises or whatever strawman people were throwing out on the last page. If that is what people think it is, then that is a social problem (much like people treating Top Gear, Fox News, and Linus Tech Tips as trusted authorities). Framework is not some flagship right to repair device, because it isn't solving the problem RTR wants to solve: the systemic opacity surrounding proprietary devices that creates untold amounts of e-waste (and other forms of waste see John Deere). Canine Blues Arooo posted:Yeah, so if you want to be told how to use your hardware and software with virtually no customization options exposed, then Apple makes stuff for you. You'd also be right to observe that they sell a ton of devices. I prefer to spend my time customizing things other than my phone. My phone has a handful of jobs none of which I feel like compromising in the name of customization. For the same reason you don't overclock a production server, I don't jailbreak my phone--or even want to install things outside the Apple walled garden. It still boggles my mind that people don't understand this philosophy. The only convincing argument has been that the type of reporting LTT, and many other tech YouTubers, does is misleading to the average viewer and that allowing it is a social problem. I agree with that one, because the Fox News/Breitbart/Top Gear argument correctly points out that people don't seem to have a good critical eye for separating entertainment from journalism. See also everyone who thinks right to repair = modular laptops.
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You're sort of right and sort of wrong. The biggest problem right to repair has is a lack of any consistent definition. There are a whole bunch of potential issues that may or may not be part of the topic in any given person's mind and "right to repair" gets used as a blanket term for all of them : OEMs refusing to sell parts. OEMs suing third parties who manufacture parts. OEMs suing third parties who repair OEM parts. The federal government assailing third parties who repair or manufacture replacement parts. OEMs suing users who repair their own loving property. Government assailing users who repair their own loving property. OEMs using custom/obfuscated/modified versions of OTS parts simply to break parts compatibility. OEMs refusing to make schematics freely available. OEMs refusing to sell schematics. OEMs suing anyone who makes their own schematics. Government assailing anyone who distributes any schematics of any sort. OEMs refusing to provide diagnostic services. OEMs refusing to provide info on diagnostic protocols. OEMs putting DRM on diagnostic protocols. OEMs suing anyone who provides info on diagnostic protocols. Government assailing anyone who provides info on diagnostic protocols. OEMs refusing to provide repair services. OEMs suing anyone who provides repair services. Government assailing anyone who provides repair services. Parts having DRM and requiring programming to work for no goddamn reason. OEMs refusing to provide said programming. OEMs refusing to provide information on said programming. OEMs using the DMCA to stop other people from providing reverse engineered information on said programming. Government assailing people who provide information or services for said programming. Probably more that I'm forgetting. And then you get into loony poo poo where people think everything should be modular no matter what, every IC should be socketed, every single board should always be designed to have every component be hand-solder-replaceable by end users, every internal connector should be designed to withstand at least 10,000 plug/unplug cycles, and all kinds of other impractical/undesirable poo poo. I could go on and on and on. When you say "right to repair", someone else doesn't necessarily have any idea what you're talking about, because there isn't a definitive definition of what exactly "right to repair" legislation should cover. That's why it's such a shitfest and IMO doomed until there's a serious attempt to discuss and settle on a single definition using a new terminology, popularize it in the public mind, and then once people understand it and can support it, push legislation based on that. K8.0 fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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For right to repair stuff I really like this channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/Tronicsfix He buys broken electronics from ebay and then tries to fix them and sell them. He often talks about how "I don't have the schematics so I can't effectively troubleshoot this device." He also talks about things like "I can't buy this component directly from the manufacturer". I think his channel is pretty interesting in that regard. It makes me wish I had paid way more attention during my Basic Electronics class I took in the military.
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K8.0 posted:I could go on and on and on. There isn't a definitive definition of what exactly "right to repair" legislation should cover, which is why it's such a shitfest and IMO doomed until there's a serious attempt to discuss and settle on a single definition using a new terminology, popularize it in the public mind, and then once people understand it and can support it, push legislation based on that. I can very much agree with RTR being Occupy Hardware. SalTheBard posted:For right to repair stuff I really like this channel: I flunked my highschool electronics class, but between taking what I could away from it (mostly the practical PCB assembly part) and filling in the blank with a decade of math and random computer gibberish, I've made myself comfortable enough to use a sodering iron on very expensive things. Having the nerves to dive into a project without fearing the cost of failure helps too. The most commonly cited reason I get from people about not wanting to repair/build their own tech is being afraid of breaking something. Warmachine fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Oct 18, 2021 |
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I mean it's obvious to everyone why Apple devices are good, but people willfully pretend that there's some philosophical hardship inherent in a closed system for the same superiority-complex reasons people on the internet make other empty statements like "gameplay over graphics" - to defend habits and biases that nobody was attacking in the first place. A lot of tech people are very dogmatically function over form, basically. But yeah, I hear you. I have a PC because I like to tinker, and a Windows laptop because it's easier when I already have a PC. But nobody buying a mac or an iPhone are being decieved. They're beautiful and functional objects that fit into most people's lives tremendously well.
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gradenko_2000 posted:apparently some people got mad at Hardware Unboxed's Steve when he was doing his new-studio tour and walked on the Gamers Nexus modmat, alleging it was some kind of deliberate disrespect to GN I feel like Steve Burke’s response is very predictable: ask for the offending modmat back in exchange for a brand new one, as it now contains valuable real life end user stress testing data.
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Right to repair also makes products easier to separate for more effective recycling, which means less of them get shredded. The EU is likely going pretty far with this soon, forcing manufacturers to provide updates for a certain amount of years, forcing the availability of replacement components and requiring eco-design, making products easier to repair and recycle.
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K8.0 posted:And then you get into loony poo poo where people think everything should be modular no matter what, every IC should be socketed, every single board should always be designed to have every component be hand-solder-replaceable by end users, every internal connector should be designed to withstand at least 10,000 plug/unplug cycles, and all kinds of other impractical/undesirable poo poo. Can people please stop flipping back and forth from extreme to extreme and inventing positions no one holds? Also no one is wrong or bad for wanting a modular phone or a modular laptop or to tinker with stuff you deem "unusual" to tinker with. This attitude of shaming people for wanting to mess with stuff is super weird and the way it slowly crept in from being nonsense into being consensus is loving creepy.
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TheCoach posted:Can people please stop flipping back and forth from extreme to extreme and inventing positions no one holds? Not empty quoting
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