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I saw Dune yesterday and enjoyed it, even if it is a movie you should read the plot summary on wikipedia before hand. Bit slow for the first bit, but once the invasion happens, everything picks up How many other books/games/movies have the protag's mom as a key party member on the journey. They usually get killed off pretty quick. DeadFatDuckFat posted:My friend told me that the in universe reason was that shooting lasers at a shield would cause nuclear explosions or something, but I think he was just loving with me this explains why in the far future, everybody hacks at each other with machetes instead of laser swords
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Saw this the other day, general feeling afterwards is that it is well made, but falls pretty flat. The Lynch version is superior if you can get past the dated sfx because it ends up being more memorable since its style lends the setting a more visually interesting and alien feeling. This new version seems to have made the modern movie mistake of making everything more detailed and "realistic" and the end result is it all feels kinda bland. Its a very beige movie. This isnt helped by the fact that as a reboot its forced to cover a lot of ground that we've seen before in the original so its sort of dull when the only plot surprises are what has been changed from the previous versions. Everything about it is competent. Nothing is outright wrong, I'll watch a part two. Hopefully part two is just a bit...more going on dramatically/visually/etc.
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Oct 23, 2021 17:49
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It seems to have pulled in $17.500.000 on Friday, which is pretty meh. Even doing bonkers on Saturday and Sunday it will struggle to break $60 mil over the weekend. Let's hope the VOD numbers are good and it has staying power
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Oct 23, 2021 17:51
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Trump posted:It seems to have pulled in $17.500.000 on Friday, which is pretty meh. Even doing bonkers on Saturday and Sunday it will struggle to break $60 over the weekend. Let's hope the VOD numbers are good and it has staying power jeez i think it almost broke $60 just from me and my friends seeing it. seems like an extreme lowball
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Oct 23, 2021 17:52
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fart simpson posted:jeez i think it almost broke $60 just from me and my friends seeing it. seems like an extreme lowball Wise rear end. (I fixed it  )
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Oct 23, 2021 17:54
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Failed Imagineer posted:100% this. If Dune II doesn't get made, it's because someone decided to kill the project outright.
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Oct 23, 2021 17:54
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Been a while since I've read the book, but was there an explanation of why the Emperor couldn't just greenlight a Harkonen invasion of Caladan instead of loving up spice production for however long with the pointless transfer? The only thing I can think of is blaming lowered output of spice on Leto and using that as a pretext for wiping them out.
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Oct 23, 2021 18:03
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Trump posted:It seems to have pulled in $17.500.000 on Friday, which is pretty meh. Even doing bonkers on Saturday and Sunday it will struggle to break $60 mil over the weekend. Let's hope the VOD numbers are good and it has staying power BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Oct 23, 2021 |
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Oct 23, 2021 18:05
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Ego-bot posted:Been a while since I've read the book, but was there an explanation of why the Emperor couldn't just greenlight a Harkonen invasion of Caladan instead of loving up spice production for however long with the pointless transfer? Per Liet-Kynes, the Emperor was jealous of the house Atreides and wanted them gone. Giving them a generous gift only for them to lose it and go extinct due to subsequent infighting among the houses give him plausible deniability. That's why Paul is all hot to get the story out to the Landsraad, the other houses could band together against the emperor once they realize that he might decide to come gunning for them individually next. Also he probably made a bunch of money off the Harkonnens in the process. withak fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Oct 23, 2021 |
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Oct 23, 2021 18:06
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Ego-bot posted:Been a while since I've read the book, but was there an explanation of why the Emperor couldn't just greenlight a Harkonen invasion of Caladan instead of loving up spice production for however long with the pointless transfer?
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Oct 23, 2021 18:06
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Sedgr posted:Saw this the other day, general feeling afterwards is that it is well made, but falls pretty flat. After watching some clips of Lynch’s dune, I think I’m inclined to agree about the aesthetic. Look at the set and costume design in this scene, there’s nothing like it in the new version, in my opinion! https://youtu.be/AGqdE1NdMTg 
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Oct 23, 2021 18:11
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:The budget was 165$ million and its already made $134,251,980 - and that's with several international markets not mentioned. Wouldnt it have to recoup probably another $100m on top of the filming budget to account for marketing and Hollywood accounting wizardry? It's possible that was scaled back in COVID time but it still seems like a pretty visible release and the payola must flow
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:The budget was 165$ million and its already made $134,251,980 - and that's with several international markets not mentioned. $60 million is still a baaaad opening and the domestic market is also still by far the market where the studio gets the biggest percentage return from theaters.
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Failed Imagineer posted:Wouldnt it have to recoup probably another $100m on top of the filming budget to account for marketing and Hollywood accounting wizardry? It's possible that was scaled back in COVID time but it still seems like a pretty visible release and the payola must flow It's still one of the best first-day box offices we've seen in COVID-19 times, so I don't think the studios are too unhappy. Trump posted:$60 million is still a baaaad opening
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Oct 23, 2021 18:13
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There's a fragile system in place where the noble houses have enough power that if some of them got together they could coup the emperor. House Atreides is powerful and popular, so if the emperor was seen to have a hand in wiping them out he'd have a dangerous amount of people mad at him. If he looks like he gave them Dune and the Harkonnens attacked out of grievance then everyone is just mad at the Harkonnens
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Oct 23, 2021 18:16
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:That I don't know - but the numbers cited on that website are purely first-day box-offices, so the actual number is likely to be somewhat bigger. What do you mean by "purely first-day"? Friday is statistically the biggest day during weekend openings. I'll admit, It's been a while since I followed BO reports and I kind of forget half the USA is still living under the plague. But the $60 million dollar estimate is mine, and it's very generous.
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Oct 23, 2021 18:22
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fart simpson posted:just an anecdote here, but i saw approximately 6x the people in the theater to see dune today than i did seeing any of the star wars sequels here in china. and star wars was heavily advertised here, dune wasnt. seems like good news to me Legendary Pictures plus a few lines of token Mandarin and Chinese audiences lose their minds
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Oct 23, 2021 18:23
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I read the book when I was in 9th grade and watched the Lynch movie right after that, so it's probably been 25+ years since I've read any of the source material. I have a few questions: Are the Bene Gessert similar to Handmaids from a Handmaids Tale? It seems like all the BG's that we met are concubines, and Leto even tells Jessica "I wish I had married you.", if Leto and Jessica aren't married, where is Leto's wife? I think this was hinted at, but want to make sure I understand, the BG on Arrakis are the ones that planted the seeds of "Lisan Al-Galib" regarding Paul right?
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Oct 23, 2021 18:23
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frogbs posted:After watching some clips of Lynch’s dune, I think I’m inclined to agree about the aesthetic. Look at the set and costume design in this scene, there’s nothing like it in the new version, in my opinion! One Perfect Shot 
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Oct 23, 2021 18:25
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SalTheBard posted:I read the book when I was in 9th grade and watched the Lynch movie right after that, so it's probably been 25+ years since I've read any of the source material. I have a few questions: Leto in the book wanted to be single in case someone offered a marriage alliance with their daughter that he is presumably related to. Like kings in the middle ages or early modern era these guys don't love their wives usually they are for business.
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Oct 23, 2021 18:27
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Trump posted:What do you mean by "purely first-day"? Friday is statistically the biggest day during weekend openings. On the 20th, Variety said: quote:The Warner Bros. film, a big-screen adaptation of Frank Herbert’s 1965 sci-fi novel, opens in 4,100 theaters in the U.S. and Canada on Friday and is projected to generate $30 million to $40 million in its first three days of release. It would be a solid start considering “Dune,” like the studio’s entire 2021 film slate, is landing simultaneously on HBO Max in the U.S. Box office experts predict that ticket sales for “Dune” may be especially strong on Thursday night (for previews) and Friday before slowing down on Saturday and Sunday because the property’s die-hard fans often show up in force on opening day. Today they are saying: quote:Box Office: ‘Dune’ Voyaging to a $39.1 Million Opening Weekend It sounds like it's doing as it was expected and as the tracking suggested. It's a fine result. Not amazing, but fine. If anything, the movie might benefit from the reduced expectations from 1) covid, and 2) HBO max simultaneous release. Pedro De Heredia fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Oct 23, 2021 |
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Oct 23, 2021 18:29
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SalTheBard posted:I read the book when I was in 9th grade and watched the Lynch movie right after that, so it's probably been 25+ years since I've read any of the source material. I have a few questions: Leto was single with only Jessica as his concubine The Bene Gessert do not all act as concubines, they have a huge breeding program however so insofar as a sister is needed to further that program, she'll work toward that goal
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Trump posted:What do you mean by "purely first-day"? Friday is statistically the biggest day during weekend openings. My point about the $60 million estimate is to question whether it's you comparing movies to pre-COVID-19 or movies during COVID-19? Because it did pretty well for being released during the pandemic in the US, as far as all the news reporting I can see is saying. SalTheBard posted:I read the book when I was in 9th grade and watched the Lynch movie right after that, so it's probably been 25+ years since I've read any of the source material. I have a few questions: BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Oct 23, 2021 |
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Oct 23, 2021 18:31
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someone earlier said that Lynch's Dune is basically the anime version of this one and i don't know if they meant it as a compliment but i think it's entirely accurate in only good ways what i'm saying here is that Sting should be playing Vegeta
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SalTheBard posted:I read the book when I was in 9th grade and watched the Lynch movie right after that, so it's probably been 25+ years since I've read any of the source material. I have a few questions: The Bene Gesserit are a school for women of high society, like how mentats teach you to be a human computer or the Ginaz school of swordfighting taught Duncan and Gurney to be badass. The skills they acquire are highly valuable, such as their perception of subconscious microgestures. So it's considered a valuable asset to have a BG wife/concubine and, as a result, a lot of the important women in society are members of it, including the Emperor's daughters that were mentioned. Of course there's much more to them in secret, but they don't exactly go around advertising that.
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frogbs posted:After watching some clips of Lynch’s dune, I think I’m inclined to agree about the aesthetic. Look at the set and costume design in this scene, there’s nothing like it in the new version, in my opinion! Yeah this set absolutely rules.
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Ego-bot posted:Been a while since I've read the book, but was there an explanation of why the Emperor couldn't just greenlight a Harkonen invasion of Caladan instead of loving up spice production for however long with the pointless transfer? The great houses also had hidden stockpiles of "atomics" (aka nukes) that were a last-ditch deterrent against conventional warfare. Using atomics offensively was grounds for planetary annihilation. I think some (or all) or the Atriedes nukes were to be transferred to Arrakis. I dont remember if its covered in the book but these may have been sabotaged too, or the Duke knew that nuking the heart of imperial spice refining and logistics would be a death sentence for his house. But you're pretty much on the right track. If spice production was critically endangered, the Emperor and Baron were counting on the Guild, CHOAM, etc holding their nose and allowing the Atriedes to be wiped out. Lakedaimon fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Oct 23, 2021 |
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Failed Imagineer posted:Honestly it looks really cool, but if it wasn't directed by David Lynch it would have no fanboy cachet and would be remembered the same way as like Flash Gordon or Barbarella I'm pretty sure that's exactly how Lynch's film is remembered.
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Wait a secondquote:Fantastic audience response here with an A- CinemaScore, the same as Blade Runner 2049, and higher than Villeneue’s Arrival (B) How the gently caress did Arrival get a B on CinemaScore? That's practically a pan!
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:To add to this, Denis Villeneuve has already made Warner Bros quite a chunk of change from Blade Runner 2049s box office and physical media release - so he's got a store of good-will worked up, in so far as the C-level execs who only care about money knows that he's proven he's capable of delivering. BR2049 was a box office disappointment for WB and the reason why only Part 1 of Dune was greenlit. Ego-bot posted:Been a while since I've read the book, but was there an explanation of why the Emperor couldn't just greenlight a Harkonen invasion of Caladan instead of loving up spice production for however long with the pointless transfer? Atreides are really popular with a bunch of the other houses and it's making the emperor fearful, so the emperor's participation in the attack on the Atreides is supposed to be secret because otherwise all the other houses would band together with the Atreides against the emperor, which is why he wanted them gone in the first place. In the movie almost all the politicking is left by the wayside, unfortunately.
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fart simpson posted:i have hopefully good news. Good sized crowd when I saw it, too. On the negative side, however, it's only got an 8.0 rating on Dianping so it's probably not going to have a great tail. That being said I'm like 90% sure the sequel has already been greenlit so it's a moot point.
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2house2fly posted:I'm surprised they didn't do what LOTR did and film two movies at once, then release them a year apart. This film is so heavily "part 1" in every way, which if nothing else takes a lot of confidence There is a 3 year time skip in the books so it kinda works
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I think they did a pretty good job with the shield fighting. Felt very faithful. It's about limb control, lots of blocking movements, very "geometric," putting yourself in a position where you can slowly push the blade through. Part of the reason the Sardaukar get dunked on is because they're not used to fighting anything without a shield. The bombs that "drill" through the shield were a visual and artistic compromise, because the shield just doesn't stop momentum but reflects it.
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:The whole "Will Dune II get made???????" is C-level executive bullshit from the studio forced upon the actors, directors and everyone else working on the movie, to try and generate more buzz. The question has always been, will the studio tell him to gently caress off if they decide they don't want to follow through.
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Saw it this afternoon, really liked it. A film adaptation of a book as dense as Dune is will never capture everything, so I think its perfectly fine for Villeneuve to have focused on the elements that make it a deconstruction of the Call to Adventure. I particularly liked how over the course of the film he subtly lines up a series of secondary characters who all experience a call to adventure (with terrible consequences), all culminating in Paul's decision.
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Trump posted:It seems to have pulled in $17.500.000 on Friday, which is pretty meh. Even doing bonkers on Saturday and Sunday it will struggle to break $60 mil over the weekend. Let's hope the VOD numbers are good and it has staying power Who the hell wants to catch COVID watching a movie? Looked fine in my basement on the flatscreen with the 5.1 surround sound.
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davecrazy posted:Who the hell wants to catch COVID watching a movie? More than 80% of over age 12 are vaccinated in my county (almost 90 partial vaxed) and the theater checked vax status if you wanted to buy concessions too so 
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Failed Imagineer posted:Honestly it looks really cool, but if it wasn't directed by David Lynch it would have no fanboy cachet and would be remembered the same way as like Flash Gordon or Barbarella Both of those movies are excellent.
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:More than 80% of over age 12 are vaccinated in my county (almost 90 partial vaxed) and the theater checked vax status if you wanted to buy concessions too so At least among my friends and acquaintances here in New England, even if we're all vaccinated most people are still hesitant to do anything with generic high exposure like movies or concerts.
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Saw this in a late opening night show in IMAX and the theatre was considerably more packed than it was for a similar showing of No Time to Die so I'm surprised the film is tracking to make less than that, but I hope word of mouth for it is good. This is an excellent watch if you want to get in to Villeneuve's thought processes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoAA0sYkLI0
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