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Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

I am curious how different I'd feel about season 2 if I had been able to watch it all at once rather than week by week, but having watched season 2 it also doesn't leave me interested to rewatch it.

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MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

Binging helps with pacing issues in general. A weekly show has to be structured in very specific ways to not start dragging. On a binge an off-track episode is just a speck, in a weekly release it means the audience goes an incredible 2-3 weeks without development.

MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Oct 17, 2021

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost
It’s really weird to me in retrospect that there was no interaction between Nate and Dr. Sharon. She seemed to interact with everyone else on the pitch.

Nybble
Jun 28, 2008

praise chuck, raise heck
At least the streaming services are pretty locked into weekly releases, and don’t have the “mid-season” break that a lot of network shows have. Just looked back at Good Place (as that was the last show I watched on TV weekly): Season 3 had a stretch that was November 15, December 6, then January 10. A brutal wait.

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010
Season 3 was garbage too.

seaborgium
Aug 1, 2002

"Nothing a shitload of bleach won't fix"




Solkanar512 posted:

It’s really weird to me in retrospect that there was no interaction between Nate and Dr. Sharon. She seemed to interact with everyone else on the pitch.

Makes sense though, he's concerned he looks weak and going to therapy is still perceived as weakness to a lot of people. It's not like the rest of the team wouldn't know he'd gone, even if what he talked about was kept between him and Dr. Sharon.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/appletv/status/1451243133031915521?s=21

Very cool (watch the video it’s funny as hell)

Robobot
Aug 21, 2018
Had no idea Mr. Quest season 2 was out.

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret
They spent so much money on weird shots in Invasion.

Its cool but... drat.

clean ayers act
Aug 13, 2007

How do I shot puck!?

apatheticman posted:

They spent so much money on weird shots in Invasion.

Its cool but... drat.
Only two episodes in but so far the multiple perspectives thing is a bit much.
Also, its pretty funny that one of the main characters is based on a US military base in Kandahar province
woops!

apatheticman
May 13, 2003

Wedge Regret
Oh poo poo. Max Richter did the soundtrack for Invasion?

Octy
Apr 1, 2010

See is utterly absurd but I love it.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Morning Show continues to be weird and not very good although at least we got a break from Aniston’s terrible, horrible character this week

I feel weird about scenes like the one where the girl unfairly yells at Chip. I’m not sure what purpose it serves. Yes, some people are stupid and annoying and direct their anger in the wrong direction. Is pointing that out the only goal? It’s kind of a flimsy attempt at both-sidesing an issue that doesn’t really deserve that treatment.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


I watched the first episode of Acapulco and I enjoyed it but I'm really growing tired of every comedy on TV+ having to be 'uplifting'.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
Does Invasion get better? Just watched the first episode out of boredom and I’m pretty sure I came out more bored at the end.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



VideoGames posted:

I have been very poorly so took time to watch all of season 2 of Ted Lasso while recuperating and I thought it was ace. It was not content to be more of season 1 and did some interesting and different pathways.

The whole show, both season 1 and 2, is about Fathers and Nuture. That is why Nate's story has been so interesting. Showing how his Dad responds to him gives us all the context for why he did what he did. He never got respect from his Dad, he got it from Ted and it was intoxicating. Ted did not realise Nate was so broken due to the bullying by others and rejection of his own father. That kind of dependency can go toxic very quickly as we saw. (The spitting is disgusting but I get what it symbolises to him.) The sign though :(

The therapy angle was amazing and Dr. Sharon was a great addition. Everyone felt lik they had evolved and grown rather than been written as caricatures. The christmas episode was a bit weirdly placed, but I loved the Coach Beard Alone episode. I actually thought it was all a drunken dream at one point because of the moon on the side of the building when he was talking to the Lady in Red.

James Tartt continues to be awful and seeing Jamie reject his dad and follow his surrogate dad in Ted and be better is excellent and slow enough that it is believable.

Sam's relationship with his Dad is heartwarming and I especially like how Roy is basically a dad to Phoebe. (And he nails that role).

There is so much that is clicking about the importance of a fatherly role model - Roy and Isaac, Elliot and his four boys, Rebecca and her Father, Rupert and his new role as a dad. The whole nuture/nature dichotomy is in full flow this season.

Also Trent Crimm, Independant rocks. :)

My favourite scene in the first season was the dart contest. I rewatched it after finishing season 2. It now has even more of an impact with Ted talking about his Dad this season - which were incredible moments. He did not become overbearing and he still had moments (Even if Led Tasso was a bit odd) of darkness. The therapy stuff really spoke to me as someone who has undergone it as well.

Ted Lasso is easily one of my favourite TV show characters of all time and I am so there on launch day of season 3. :hai:

I just finished season 2 and I absolutely agree with all of this. While the tone clearly shifted I didn't think the quality did at all - but looking at some other reactions in this thread I think watching it all back to back rather than weekly helped a lot. Everything (especially Nate and Ted's journeys) felt like a very natural continuation of season 1.

As much as I enjoyed Beard's episode I think you could make a case for cutting it and using the time to flesh out the Nate and Ted situation a little more. Maybe one or two scenes where Nate is clearly looking for Ted's support and approval but Ted's too distracted by his own development to notice? Although that could have run the risk of implying that Ted was dropping the ball or being selfish when really he was just letting Nate fly and (wrongly) believed his work was done. I could also have used a little bit more focus on the football itself - there was a lot of telling rather than showing about how the club was doing. Every few episodes we had Jeff Sterling point out that Richmond was on a winning/losing/drawing streak but I feel like more of that could have been on the screen - which would have allowed some of the players a bit more time to shine.

As someone who lived in Stratford for three years I naturally despise West Ham and its (incredibly loud) fans so season 3 will be fun.

stev fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Oct 24, 2021

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


I like how invasion took the Martians arriving from War of the Worlds with Tom Cruise and dragged it out to 20 minutes of people standing around in a LI suburb coming up with dumber and dumber explanations.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Boris Galerkin posted:

Does Invasion get better? Just watched the first episode out of boredom and I’m pretty sure I came out more bored at the end.

I haven't watched it yet but judging from the reviews, no.

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


I am getting to the end of the third episode and it feels like someone was shooting 4 different shows and edited them together and added dialog after the fact to try and make something.

aga.
Sep 1, 2008

I guess aliens weren't enough of a conflict so they added two comically lovely people as characters.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
VideoGames and stev are my bros!!!! my bros!!!!!!

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

Boris Galerkin posted:

Does Invasion get better? Just watched the first episode out of boredom and I’m pretty sure I came out more bored at the end.

There's someone on twitter called Spaceshipper who really loves slow burn stuff and even they said Invasion was too slow.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Television can be fast and about nothing in particular, or it can be slow and dense. So much crap TV is just slow and about nothing -- and let's be honest, most "slow burn" television is exactly that.

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


I just feel that Game of Thrones broke all the writers/show runners to think that what made GoT popular was the huge number of characters, places and different plots all going on at the same time. Ignoring the fact that GoT was popular as it was fantasy murder porn. Have one main plot with a group of characters that are developed and the audience is invested in and expand from that. A good example of that is the early seasons of The Walking Dead until that also devolved into GoTitus.

tofes
Mar 31, 2011

#1 Milpitas Dave and Buster's superfan since 2013
Is Invasion at least worth watching for Sam Neill?

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

BigPaddy posted:

I just feel that Game of Thrones broke all the writers/show runners to think that what made GoT popular was the huge number of characters, places and different plots all going on at the same time. Ignoring the fact that GoT was popular as it was fantasy murder porn. Have one main plot with a group of characters that are developed and the audience is invested in and expand from that. A good example of that is the early seasons of The Walking Dead until that also devolved into GoTitus.

It's way older than Thrones; The Walking Dead was doing it before Thrones anyway (and in TWD's case it largely seems to have evolved out of a way to keep budgets crunched).

LOST was doing it before all of them; particularly by the time the show had reached its third season, when you start seeing the characters defined into subgroups and rarely leaving those groups. The fourth season codified it into literal faction "conflicts". But ultimately there was very little crossover between the various groups of thinly written characters.

But, I mean, it's also a process fundamental to soap opera, it's only that As The World Turns doesn't pretend that the characters are on different continents.

Basically, none of this is new.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

tofes posted:

Is Invasion at least worth watching for Sam Neill?

I’ve only watched the first episode and I’d say no, unless you really want to see him cosplay a god fearing cop.

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed

Boris Galerkin posted:

I’ve only watched the first episode and I’d say no, unless you really want to see him cosplay a god fearing cop.

Doesn't he get killed in the first episode? I never watched beyond that but I got the impression that someone just handed him a bag of money to make a small apperance.

Antifa Poltergeist
Jun 3, 2004

"We're not laughing with you, we're laughing at you"



Just give me a Roy Kent and Jan Maas buddy comedy

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

God Foundation is such a weird show.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

I love that Ted Lasso is such a positive show that it's inoffensive to the worst people in the world.

https://twitter.com/MittRomney/status/1453752691868438533

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Chairman Capone posted:

I love that Ted Lasso is such a positive show that it's inoffensive to the worst people in the world.

https://twitter.com/MittRomney/status/1453752691868438533

It's very easy to some of those scenes in particular would resonate with lovely people: Ted repeatedly interrupts his boss, against her wishes, to have private meetings with her wherein he gives her personal gifts and asks her questions about her personal life. She says no but he hears it as a yes that's yet to happen.

TBH it's classic male entitlement.

Throw in some of the Sam/Rebecca stuff from season 2, and you get the sense that the writer's room doesn't really understand work power dynamics.

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Alex Levy still the worst TV character of the past few years but this episode ain’t bad

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

Escobarbarian posted:

Alex Levy still the worst TV character of the past few years but this episode ain’t bad

Really? I think she's loving hilarious and such an absolute trainwreck.

(Not seen the most recent episode)

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
She’s such a ginormous piece of poo poo to everyone and the show genuinely doesn’t seem to realise it. It wants us to have sympathy for her but she’s so loving horrible!!!!

Escobarbarian
Jun 18, 2004


Grimey Drawer
Oh MAN the end of that episode

Oasx
Oct 11, 2006

Freshly Squeezed
Foundation is moving at a snails pace, I really wish they didn't feel the need to drag out the story so much.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Aren't they trying to drag it out to 80 episodes?

External Organs
Mar 3, 2006

One time i prank called a bear buildin workshop and said I wanted my mamaws ashes put in a teddy from where she loved them things so well... The woman on the phone did not skip a beat. She just said, "Brang her on down here. We've did it before."
Maybe they're trying to get it cancelled but place enough framework so that it will be picked up again in 1000 years.

Prestige TV is ending....it's.... inevitable.

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Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost
Is it just me, or is The Morning Show just cargo cult prestige tv? By that I mean everything that you have to spend money on (talent, lighting, sets, etc) is there, but the writing is uneven as hell, character arcs go all over the place or just vanish, important moments are incredibly heavy-handed, the opening is meandering and pretentious as gently caress and so on.

Maybe it's just me.

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