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G-Hawk posted:Wake hasn't beat anyone and was lucky to get past Syracuse and Louisville. Their ranking is fine. If they actually win out the playoff debate is gonna be hilarious this year Otoh, gently caress you, 7-0
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Otoh, gently caress you, 7-0 otoh, maybe don't schedule Army, Old Dominion, and Norfolk State as your OOC games and people might treat you as a serious team
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Adun posted:otoh, maybe don't schedule Army, Old Dominion, and Norfolk State as your OOC games and people might treat you as a serious team Ah yes, like Kentucky's powerhouse slate of ULM and Chattanooga, and then they beat the mighty 4-3 Florida, South Carolina, Mizzou, and LSU. Truly a beastly schedule. Or Notre Dame, who is 6-1 beating Toledo, Wisconsin, and Purdue, and who barely beat an FSU team that Wake utterly destroyed, and then they've beaten VT by 3, which is as weak of a win as any of Wake's. Or Ole Miss, who scheduled Louisville (who again, Wake also beat), App State, and Tulane. Again, the whole thing is predicated on the SEC being some juggernaut, which is true of Bama and UGA, but the rest of the conference really isn't that much different from any other P5 conference, except for the fact that they have the aura that the media gives them, specifically BECAUSE of Bama. And then Notre Dame is boosted up literally only because they're Notre Dame. I'm not saying that Wake would destroy any of the teams ahead of them, I'm saying it's really annoying to be the only undefeated P5 team outside the Top 10, and "Because SEC Pawl" or "Because Notre Dame" has always been a self-fulfilling prophecy. Holy poo poo I assumed APST was App State, it's Austin Peay. SamuraiFoochs fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Oct 24, 2021 |
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Your 21st ranked 7-0 SDSU Aztecs. First time at 7-0 since 1975 and going into the biggest game of the year this week.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Ah yes, like Kentucky's powerhouse slate of ULM and Chattanooga, and then they beat the mighty 4-3 Florida, South Carolina, Mizzou, and LSU. Truly a beastly schedule. austin peay is an fcs school, foochs. ole miss is a big double mega fraud
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Alaois posted:austin peay is an fcs school, foochs. But SEC SEC SEC Confederate-rear end conference
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SamuraiFoochs posted:But SEC SEC SEC The ACC isn’t exactly free from the taint of the confederacy.
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YOLOsubmarine posted:The ACC isn’t exactly free from the taint of the confederacy. Also true! But if it's a tug of war...
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Houston vs SMU this weekend for the right to be the final speed bump in Cincinnati’s quest to finish 8th in the last CFP poll
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Oregon jumping MSU my rear end It'll give extra motivation for this weekend
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Ah yes, like Kentucky's powerhouse slate of ULM and Chattanooga, and then they beat the mighty 4-3 Florida, South Carolina, Mizzou, and LSU. Truly a beastly schedule. Has Wake played a single ranked team this season?
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Adun posted:Has Wake played a single ranked team this season? No but again, you're proving my point for me. My entire point is the fact that using the ranking of an opponent as a metric in a vacuum is inherently flawed because SEC teams and Notre Dame are routinely over-ranked to start the beginning of the year. SEC teams play a shitload of ranked teams because a ton of them get ranked earlier in the year, and then a lot of them crater (looking at Florida specifically). When you look at stuff like mutual opponents and whatnot, Wake starts to look a lot better than just doing the "ACC bad lol" logic. Also I love how I thoroughly dismantled the OOC schedule strength argument so you moved the goalposts. That's also funny. People act like the ACC is a non-P5 conference every season. Sure, even I'll admit they're not as good as the SEC, but they're not that much worse than the B1G most seasons (this is a bit of an outlier this year), they're no worse than the Big XII for the last little while (which is about to get gutted by OU and Texas both leaving), and they're probably better than the PAC.
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I mean if you play a strong conference schedule feel free to schedule some OOC cupcakes. If you're Wake Forest and actually expect to be good you should probably schedule some good teams to play to have a decent resume? Wake's (barely) beaten a bunch of lovely teams. Why would anyone actually expect them to be ranked in the Top 10?
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The sec is significantly better at football than the acc as a conference. Kentucky has beat better teams than Wake Forest has. and Kentucky's only loss came against the best team in the country, so the penalty won't be too stiff on that one. Sagarin has wake forest's strength of schedule at #79 in the country, lower than everyone in the top 20 except Cincy and SMU. S&P+ has Wake Forest as the 37th best team in the country (incidentally, Kentucky is actually #36) We've reached the point of the season where any p5 team that stays undefeated is gonna slide up the rankings, thats why Oklahoma St made it into the top 10 even though basically no one thought they were a top 10 team. But I don't think there is anything suggesting Wake Forest is actually better than the teams ahead of them. G-Hawk fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Oct 24, 2021 |
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I absolutely agree that WF should be ranked above ND but I also havent watched either of them play more than a couple of quarters
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Adun posted:I mean if you play a strong conference schedule feel free to schedule some OOC cupcakes. If you're Wake Forest and actually expect to be good you should probably schedule some good teams to play to have a decent resume? Nobody expected Wake to be this good before the season you gigantic clown And maybe it's fair to expect them to be in the top 10 because they're the only 7-0 P5 team that isn't, and there are several teams ahead of them with losses whose resumes really aren't that much better if you actually look? Like Ole Miss and Wake being switched ranking wise would make plenty of sense to me. That's not even getting into somebody like ND, or like the fact that Kentucky shot up as much in a bye week as Wake did putting up 10 goddamn touchdowns on the road against a team that Wisconsin, who was ~ranked~ earlier this year, only hung 20 points on at home. No, Kentucky and ND aren't top 10, but they're ranked higher than Wake and in both cases that's kind of bullshit. ESPECIALLY Notre Dame. IDK what part of "yes the SEC is good, hell, the best even, but the extent to which they are elevated is something of a self-fulfilling prophecy" is so difficult for people to grasp. Goddamn I hope we beat Duke by 40
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Wake's played at best a Top 50 schedule in college football. Sagarin has them ranked #18, FPI #35, and S&P+ (last week) had them #44. Hell if anything the voters are over-ranking the team.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Nobody expected Wake to be this good before the season you gigantic clown i don't like notre dame and think they should join a conference but they've played a legitimate schedule this season. Sagarin has their strength of schedule #6 which is probably a bit much but its certainly not weak. their ranking is fine. all 3 of those teams have better resumes than wake forest. its certainly possible wake forest is better than any of them but they haven't really done anything to show it yet this year. As Adun said they're probably ranked slightly high vs the actual statistics, but i think the voters correctly begin giving undefeated teams a premium at this point.
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Just enjoy unbeaten Wake. It doesn't matter if they're #14 or #8.
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Raku posted:this is hosed Who gives a poo poo? It doesn’t mean anything. It’s made up numbers by bunch of people who don’t even watch games and have no effect on playoff seeding.
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Dango Bango posted:That Oklahoma running back was hit, wrapped up, and going backwards when they did that handoff. Should've called his forward progress before it Probably, but in the context of the game, they couldn't do it. They'd let Kansas convert a 4th down where forward progress was stopped for, like, TWICE as long as it was on the later play. It would have been wildly inconsistent for them to call it there.
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CharlestheHammer posted:That was a terrible penalty but that’s also one of the slowest TDs I’ve ever seen I present to you an 86 yard jt barrett touchdown run. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8MERBPRb9k
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AP poll has no relevance anymore anyway. That said,Kloaked00 posted:Oregon jumping MSU my rear end I wonder if Mel can channel Dantonio’s pure loathing and pettiness for Michigan football to the same degree of success. Obviously he’s beaten them once already but that Michigan team was 100x worse than this one.
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Henchman of Santa posted:AP poll has no relevance anymore anyway. Why? It's still the poll of record until the CFP poll comes out. Which is next Tuesday, right?
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dirty shrimp money posted:Why? It's still the poll of record until the CFP poll comes out. Which is next Tuesday, right? Because said CFP poll exists and renders it useless.
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Speaking of polls, why wait until next Tuesday when you can disrespect Michigan State (and Cincinnati) in a moon poll right now? pre:Delta Team Record Score - 1. Georgia 7-0 4.9988 +1 2. Michigan 7-0 3.8268 -1 3. Iowa 6-1 3.6088 +2 4. Alabama 7-1 3.5752 -1 5. Cincinnati 7-0 3.5503 +3 6. Ohio State 6-1 3.1939 - 7. Oklahoma 8-0 3.0696 -3 8. Baylor 6-1 2.9568 +2 9. Wake Forest 7-0 2.8747 +3 10. UTSA 8-0 2.7486 +4 11. Ole Miss 6-1 2.7462 -2 12. Michigan State 7-0 2.6715 +3 13. Notre Dame 6-1 2.5896 +3 14. Pittsburgh 6-1 2.5410 +9 15. Oregon 6-1 2.5200 +3 16. San Diego State 7-0 2.4226 -9 17. Oklahoma State 6-1 2.3980 +10 18. Texas A&M 6-2 2.2415 +7 19. Iowa State 5-2 2.1962 - 20. Houston 6-1 2.1337 -9 21. Penn State 5-2 2.0338 +1 22. SMU 7-0 2.0150 +11 23. BYU 6-2 1.9645 +8 24. Virginia 6-2 1.8921 -3 25. Auburn 5-2 1.8546 +2 121. Old Dominion 1-6 -2.3256 -4 122. Akron 2-6 -2.4002 -2 123. North Texas 1-6 -2.4075 +2 124. Arizona 0-7 -2.7220 +3 125. UNLV 0-7 -2.7378 +1 126. New Mexico State 1-7 -2.7834 +2 127. Arkansas State 1-6 -2.8134 -3 128. Florida Intl 1-6 -2.9980 -5 129. Ohio U 1-7 -3.2060 - 130. Connecticut 1-8 -4.4510 pre:Delta Team Rec Score +12 26. Arkansas 5-3 1.8326 -13 27. Coastal Carolina 6-1 1.6923 -1 28. Kentucky 6-1 1.6293 -11 29. NC State 5-2 1.5499 -9 30. Air Force 6-2 1.4840 +2 31. Arizona State 5-2 1.4060 +12 32. Minnesota 5-2 1.3968 +8 33. Oregon State 5-2 1.3571 +2 34. Louisiana-Lafayette 6-1 1.3329 -4 35. UCLA 5-3 1.2746 +1 36. Texas 4-3 1.2735 +6 37. Fresno State 6-2 1.2529 +9 38. Liberty 6-2 1.2379 +3 39. UTEP 6-1 1.0637 -10 40. Nevada 5-2 1.0556 -16 41. Clemson 4-3 0.9814 -7 42. Western Michigan 5-3 0.8951 +6 43. North Carolina 4-3 0.8377 +12 44. Northern Illinois 6-2 0.8031 +17 45. Louisville 4-3 0.7897 -17 46. Purdue 4-3 0.6791 +22 47. UCF 4-3 0.6647 +16 48. Appalachian State 5-2 0.6575 -9 49. Tennessee 4-4 0.6526 Delta Team Rec Score -11 50. Utah 4-3 0.6195 +10 51. Florida 4-3 0.5984 -4 52. Texas Tech 5-3 0.5745 +20 53. Kansas State 4-3 0.5562 -3 54. Mississippi State 4-3 0.5528 +25 55. Wisconsin 4-3 0.4963 +12 56. Utah State 5-2 0.4754 -12 57. UAB 5-3 0.4671 -12 58. Boston College 4-3 0.4601 -2 59. Troy 4-3 0.4192 +22 60. Kent State 4-4 0.4010 +20 61. Florida Atlantic 4-3 0.3441 +17 62. Syracuse 4-4 0.3117 +26 63. Louisiana-Monroe 4-3 0.2929 -10 64. LSU 4-4 0.2712 +21 65. Toledo 4-4 0.2339 +19 66. Eastern Michigan 5-3 0.2204 -7 67. Washington State 4-4 0.1996 -16 68. Army 4-3 0.1287 +22 69. West Virginia 3-4 -0.0097 -15 70. Maryland 4-3 -0.0200 +6 71. Nebraska 3-5 -0.0257 -22 72. South Carolina 4-4 -0.0385 +5 73. Rutgers 3-4 -0.0418 -21 74. South Alabama 4-3 -0.0498 Delta Team Rec Score - 75. Marshall 4-3 -0.0563 +22 76. Middle Tennessee 3-4 -0.0983 -19 77. Georgia Tech 3-4 -0.1000 -12 78. Stanford 3-4 -0.1096 -14 79. Virginia Tech 3-4 -0.1276 +3 80. Missouri 3-4 -0.1363 -14 81. USC 3-4 -0.1474 -23 82. Charlotte 4-3 -0.1733 +4 83. Boise State 3-4 -0.1761 +8 84. Miami (FL) 3-4 -0.1967 +14 85. Miami (OH) 4-4 -0.2641 +7 86. Illinois 3-5 -0.2683 -15 87. TCU 3-4 -0.2993 +14 88. Washington 3-4 -0.3024 -15 89. Northwestern 3-4 -0.3202 -27 90. Ball State 4-4 -0.3289 +14 91. Buffalo 4-4 -0.3305 -22 92. Wyoming 4-3 -0.3406 +8 93. Hawaii 4-4 -0.3419 +9 94. Florida State 3-4 -0.3572 +2 95. Western Kentucky 3-4 -0.3576 -25 96. Colorado State 3-4 -0.3623 -21 97. Central Michigan 4-4 -0.5575 +10 98. California 2-5 -0.5833 -4 99. Duke 3-4 -0.6237 Delta Team Rec Score -4 100. Tulsa 3-4 -0.6283 -17 101. East Carolina 3-4 -0.7063 +4 102. Georgia State 3-4 -0.7298 -15 103. Temple 3-4 -0.7547 -10 104. Indiana 2-5 -0.8459 -15 105. Memphis 4-4 -0.8915 +4 106. Rice 3-4 -0.9621 -7 107. Colorado 2-5 -1.1340 +9 108. South Florida 2-5 -1.1684 +2 109. San Jose State 4-4 -1.1922 -3 110. Kansas 1-6 -1.2880 -7 111. Louisiana Tech 2-5 -1.3707 +7 112. New Mexico 3-5 -1.3810 -1 113. Navy 1-6 -1.6006 -1 114. Tulane 1-6 -1.8912 +1 115. Vanderbilt 2-6 -1.8969 -7 116. Georgia Southern 2-5 -1.9474 -3 117. Texas State 2-5 -2.0171 +2 118. Massachusetts 1-5 -2.0666 -4 119. Bowling Green 2-6 -2.1395 +2 120. Southern Miss 1-6 -2.3172
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JesustheDarkLord posted:Frankly, I think the voters recognize that scoring 70 points against Army is disrespectful to our great nation Blame the kicker, it’s his responsibility to hit hit the last PAT.
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GameDay still hasn’t said where they’re going, but it’s gotta be East Lansing right? Unless Fox gets their own show there already.
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Never mind this week, let's get Gameday in El Paso next weekend. UTSA versus UTEP. Bird versus Miner. Castro versus Beto. The Alamo Versus The Hands of Fate. Donkey Shows. Drug Cartels. A remake of From Dusk Til Dawn in Rosa's Cantina starring Alec Baldwin. Lee Corso getting a handjob at the Sun Bowl in a bird suit. Who says no? dirty shrimp money fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Oct 25, 2021 |
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Fox announced weeks ago that they'd be in East Lansing for Big Noon, so I'm not sure if Gameday will go up against it directly edit - yeah looks like PSU losing really threw a spanner in the works. Maybe Ole Miss Auburn? Omnikin fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Oct 25, 2021 |
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Omnikin posted:Fox announced weeks ago that they'd be in East Lansing for Big Noon, so I'm not sure if Gameday will go up against it directly Probably Auburn or Columbus then.
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dirty shrimp money posted:Never mind this week, let's get Gameday in El Paso next weekend. UTEP also has some sweet architecture on campus. Gameday in front of a bunch of Bhutanese inspired buildings would be awesome
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