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If any movie deserves a LotR style extended edition its this one.
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Oct 26, 2021 00:40
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There is a director's cut, it's the version currently in theaters. It's the version the director cut. I want to see deleted scenes too but "director's cut" doesn't really make sense unless the director didn't get to release the movie the way they wanted to.
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Oct 26, 2021 00:50
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Just to chime in, I didn't really dig this movie. A couple of us watching it had enjoyed the David Lynch version, though overall I think that movie is just ok. Plus David doesn't like it due to not having final cut etc. Not to compare too much. Cool that people do dig this one, and it's capturing people's imagination here on SA. I'll say for me, I think the script is fairly ok, but I don't dig the chosen direction, tone, and casting. There are aspects of the movie I like, I enjoy the lore and the more surreal stuff, and stuff like the system of influence and that whole spider's web of deception and planning or whatever. But that is pretty straightforward, just delivered in some expository dialogue. But there's something there for sure. I also like the visions and the destiny or appearance thereof and funky cool stuff like that. Paul in this doesn't land for me. The performance, the writing, however it's framed here, just not a very memorable movie performance or arc (or half an arc) for me. I do like Kyle's better, but I just like his unique charm as an actor. Not that they need be compared, just for the record, Kyle is a cool dude. That one bit here where Paul complains about his lot doesn't feel earned, but in general he doesn't seem to be portrayed as having a personality at all. And I don't get the impression that he has a lot going on inside either, just kind of vacant. And hey, you can have a cool sterile vacant character, that connects with the audience somehow, for me this didn't though. Jason Mamoa I don't think is a great actor, and Josh Brolin often is pretty drat good but I feel is used in a pretty poor way here. The "I am smiling" joke taken from Black Dynamite, I'm not sure why they thought that worked. Oscar Isaac and Rebecca Ferguson are good. The villains are pretty whatever to me here, and the Kurtz nod with the head rubbing doesn't really imbue any depth or anything. In general I may not be a big Villeneuve fan. I would've liked to see somebody do a different take on this than what we got here. I like taking your time and covering the book, but it feels like this took it's time with so-so action and spectacle. I don't find this movie to be anything special. And I did like his Blade Runner movie, but found it to be mostly just ok. Found the Deckard use pretty blah, and overall felt overhyped to me. He seems sort of like a new take on Nolan, making straightforward blockbusters that are just a bit apparently elegant or artisanal in tone, but can for me fail to deliver the goods character and emotion wise. And for spectacle and artistic wildness there are other directions I'd prefer. Well, that's my take. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Oct 26, 2021 |
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Oct 26, 2021 00:50
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https://twitter.com/blimp_juice/status/1452665128151834628
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Oct 26, 2021 01:03
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AnEdgelord posted:If any movie deserves a LotR style extended edition its this one. Yep. I have not watched a movie since fellowship that felt more like fellowship. Really didnt do a whole ton of “stuff” but instead just set the “feels” for the universe, and god drat i just want to roll around in it.
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Oct 26, 2021 01:18
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Vote Muad'dib: The Strength At The Base of a Pillar, The Strength Arrakis Needs.
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Oct 26, 2021 01:22
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Jason Momoa should only play parts where he's a contemporary cool dude, or doesn't speak English.
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Oct 26, 2021 01:24
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Baron von Eevl posted:There is a director's cut, it's the version currently in theaters. It's the version the director cut. I want to see deleted scenes too but "director's cut" doesn't really make sense unless the director didn't get to release the movie the way they wanted to. Ok nerd, EXTENDED EDITION
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Oct 26, 2021 01:31
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porfiria posted:Jason Momoa should only play parts where he's a contemporary cool dude, or doesn't speak English. Yes. Not because he should, but because that’s the extent of his range.
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Oct 26, 2021 01:32
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I'm back and forth on that; I don't really buy Momoa as a legendary warrior of such status that the empire's elite legions are warned that he'll be there, but I do buy him as a brave and loyal friend, and given how things go in the movie that's probably the more important aspect of his character to play up
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Oct 26, 2021 01:35
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Look i go to my street corner and go “oops I dropped some cash” and then a kid walks by and goes “oops I dropped some drugs” Denis, just put all the deleted scenes on the Blu-ray, we’ll do the rest of the work ourselves
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Oct 26, 2021 01:41
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2house2fly posted:I'm back and forth on that; I don't really buy Momoa as a legendary warrior of such status that the empire's elite legions are warned that he'll be there, but I do buy him as a brave and loyal friend, and given how things go in the movie that's probably the more important aspect of his character to play up Not unfair, but find someone who can do both. Edit: actually just reverse gurney/duncan casting AlternateAccount fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Oct 26, 2021 |
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Oct 26, 2021 01:48
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AlternateAccount posted:You could kinda game it, the rule is you can't machine machines that think in the manner of a human mind. Everything but thinking machines - self-aware A.I. - is allowed.
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Oct 26, 2021 02:20
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Feyd should be in part two and it should be Machine Gun Kelly. He is the Yang to Chalamet's Yin.
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Oct 26, 2021 02:43
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incoherent posted:He can easily side step it and not call it a directors cut. Call it a "expansive world cut" or some poo poo. He's the few that could still command as "close to final cut" rights as possible and I feel this is a "cinema vision" of dunc. Also he's need to start wheeling and dealing to generate post-movie revenue to get a part 2 filmed. Being amenable to the thought of a larger cut would go a long way. They could do a thing where after a Dune part 2 comes out the entire thing is edited into one movie and adds back in some scenes.
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Oct 26, 2021 03:07
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Baron von Eevl posted:There is a director's cut, it's the version currently in theaters. It's the version the director cut. I want to see deleted scenes too but "director's cut" doesn't really make sense unless the director didn't get to release the movie the way they wanted to. Give me a poorly-paced cut then!
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Oct 26, 2021 03:08
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i'm not sure why, but the many shots of machines looming over infantry squares made me think of the cutscenes from the Battletech game so Denis Villeneuve Battletech movie when?
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Oct 26, 2021 03:26
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AnEdgelord posted:Posts like these make me think the haters are just trolling. They are, OP
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Oct 26, 2021 03:32
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AlternateAccount posted:Edit: actually just reverse gurney/duncan casting Wow this is pretty racist lol
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Oct 26, 2021 03:34
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“I can’t buy the non-white actor as a legendary warrior, regardless of the directorial and authorial intent.”
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Oct 26, 2021 03:35
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I thought movie was okay. Liked it more in the beginning, got a little bored by the end. Oddly enough, the opposite of how my friend, who liked Dune so much she kept the "Fear is the mind-killer" quote in her psychiatry office, felt the opposite, and thought it got better as the movie went on. Go figure. Anyone else feel like the music was a little much at times? I know it's supposed to have an epic feel to it, but sometimes it felt like Paul could have been taking a poo poo and that woman on the soundtrack would have been wailing her heart out to it.
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Oct 26, 2021 03:39
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it would rule if Timmy C got fuckin shredded for part 2. Or just cast Adam Driver for Messiah
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Oct 26, 2021 03:48
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Momoa is perfectly cast IMO. He is very much A) someone who could kill most people without breaking a sweat and B) a big loyal friend. He works very well and having Brolin as the more cynical Gurney is a good counterpoint. And yeah I'm glad Villenue is happy with the theatrical cut of the film and doesn't feel it was compromised but I would like to see some of the stuff that was cut anyway. Just make it deleted scenes, that's fine, have it be an interesting side curiosity for the people who are really into the movie or whatever.
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Oct 26, 2021 03:51
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AnEdgelord posted:Posts like these make me think the haters are just trolling. there's a dude in GBS who angrily insisted that dune was a failure because it didn't match the step by step heroic journey plotline in the save the cat screenwriting book. he spoke as a writer. a writer whose biggest achievement was getting almost selected in some family guy scriptwriting competition.
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Oct 26, 2021 03:55
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Personally, I think the film would have been better if it catered itself exclusively to my preferences.
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Oct 26, 2021 03:57
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I buy Momoa as an incredible warrior, but I don't buy Brolin as a guy who'd pick up whatever the gently caress that lute thing was and jam for a while. Momoa actually plays stringed instruments! I bet you could build something huge and kind of interesting and he'd reasonably be able to play it! Get the Warr guitars guy on the phone. Honestly though I was apprehensive about Momoa and Brolin in those roles before the movie came out but I think each one was well cast for their role as it was written. I feel like if you switched the more character-y bits and had Duncan as the hard rear end overly serious guy and Gurney as the affable but "but seriously though" guy it could have worked too. It'd have robbed us of a lot more Momoa in a hypothetical Children/God Emperor duo but it would blessed us with a little more Momoa in the might-actually-happen Dunc2.
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Oct 26, 2021 04:06
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Baron von Eevl posted:I buy Momoa as an incredible warrior, but I don't buy Brolin as a guy who'd pick up whatever the gently caress that lute thing was and jam for a while. Momoa actually plays stringed instruments! I bet you could build something huge and kind of interesting and he'd reasonably be able to play it! Get the Warr guitars guy on the phone. Brolin sold me on his Gurney just in the way he delivered the "They're BRUTAL" line. This movie was good top to bottom.
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Oct 26, 2021 04:07
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Horizon Burning posted:there's a dude in GBS who angrily insisted that dune was a failure because it didn't match the step by step heroic journey plotline in the save the cat screenwriting book. he spoke as a writer. a writer whose biggest achievement was getting almost selected in some family guy scriptwriting competition. Lemme guess, the RLM thread?
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Oct 26, 2021 04:10
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Seriously, David Lynch must be loving how suddenly everyone's a fan of his version. It was a laughing stock for almost everyone up until this movie came out, apparently.
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Oct 26, 2021 04:14
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"everyone" is quite a stretch
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Oct 26, 2021 04:18
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David lynch probably doesn't really care, he disowned the movie and stopped thinking about it almost 40 fuckin years ago. Respect
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Oct 26, 2021 04:19
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Glottis posted:Seriously, David Lynch must be loving how suddenly everyone's a fan of his version. It was a laughing stock for almost everyone up until this movie came out, apparently. I feel like I'm in a Battlefield thread
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Oct 26, 2021 04:20
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Glottis posted:Seriously, David Lynch must be loving how suddenly everyone's a fan of his version. It was a laughing stock for almost everyone up until this movie came out, apparently. I just rewatched it and it's really not that great of a movie. I think a lot of this is fair, I also didn't really dig Timothee Chalamet's portrayal of Paul, but I suppose it's only half the movie.
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Oct 26, 2021 04:20
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IMB posted:Brolin sold me on his Gurney just in the way he delivered the "They're BRUTAL" line. This movie was good top to bottom. His neck did quite a bit of acting on that line. Every muscle went taut and veins were in stark relief. I’ve used FACS rigs where there are controls to trigger that bit of muscle action and on that line I was like “drat he has good control over his neck.”
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Oct 26, 2021 04:33
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No Mods No Masters posted:David lynch probably doesn't really care, he disowned the movie and stopped thinking about it almost 40 fuckin years ago. Respect He absolutely doesn't care, he didn't even care enough to read the book before adapting it in the first place. Few would be so brazen with other people's dreams.
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Oct 26, 2021 04:51
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Noam Chomsky posted:Everything but thinking machines - self-aware A.I. - is allowed. I believe the term "thinking machines" doesn't just mean sentient/self-aware AI but anything that "thinks" in the stead of a human mind, including simple calculators. The thopters in the movie had all analog readouts. "Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind... Even the simplest computers and calculators were banned, with the penalty for building or owning such a thinking machine technology being put to trial and sentenced to immediate death." Source: https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Butlerian_Jihad
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Oct 26, 2021 05:22
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I actually really appreciate the 3 hour TV cut for giving us EVEN MORE Herbertian/Lynchian weirdness, but yeah he got screwed over by the studio for that Alan Smithee version. Would have been wild to see a "post-Twin Peaks The Return" Lynch take on Dune though.
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Oct 26, 2021 05:28
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i clicked on some links in the dune wiki and got to a never made french 70s movie featuring 2000 extras pooping. where would that scene have been in this?
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Oct 26, 2021 05:36
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kater posted:i clicked on some links in the dune wiki and got to a never made french 70s movie featuring 2000 extras pooping. The cut dinner scene. Denis only had 100 poopers, which is truer to the book to be honest. "Father! Father. The sphincter has awakened!" --Paul Muad'Dib
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Oct 26, 2021 05:45
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i like skarsgard as harkonnen but he's not nearly gross enough was kinda disappointing when he popped up out of his oil bath after getting a face full of poison gas and wasn't super hosed up looking.
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