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Yeah, that Rion scene needs to be inside his head. We need to see him going from still anxious to a dawning realization that she is a ridiculous and pathetic person, and maybe he doesn't have to be afraid of her.
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quote:CHAPTER TWENTY-SEVEN Because staking your claim on a guy is more important than deciding to save your own life. But I guess that first test for High was way too long ago and therefore doesn't count anymore. quote:Using the power to stiffen my backbone and resolve might not be the same as learning to do it without help, but sometimes it’s downright idiotic to refuse whatever help you can get. This mechanic will never get explained, other than that it's a magical force that literally helps you along the way to "your true self". quote:“I wonder what Mirra wants this time,” Vallant muttered as he put a hand to my elbow at the stairs. “And she’s here with your father rather than with her own. She’s got to be up to somethin’, but not somethin’ to do us any good.” So why answer the door at all? I really don't understand. Like there's no reason they have to even go to the door. They could have just told the servant "no, we don't care to receive those particular visitors" and there'd be nothing Storn and Mirra could do short of forcing their way in. quote:“You’re touchin’ the power, aren’t you?” he asked very softly, his glance something I could feel. “Are you sure that’s wise?” Literally something Green puts in everywhere in an attempt to create a sense of tension. I wish she had linked this up with burnout, in which case we'd be more terrified of it. But she didn't, because spoilers for the rest of the series you're supposed to be constantly connected to the power, it's like the ideal state of being. quote:which was really nice but nothing which had to distract me. My father was here, and I couldn’t wait until he met the new me. I wish we could see more of a difference in Tamrissa's narration when she IS touching the power and when she isn't. quote:The servant who had come to Lorand’s room stood waiting by the front door, obviously ready to open it. He was another of the group I didn’t know, but somehow seemed a bit more pleasant than the others—and also somehow less afraid. He smiled as we approached, waited until we were positioned properly in front of the door, then opened it. The section that follows is a mess of blocking. quote:“Well, it’s certainly about time!” the girl Mirra huffed, my father looking outraged beside her. “Leavin’ us just standin’ here—! You’ll regret this, Vallant, by my oath you surely will.” It sounds like these front doors open inwards (which is generally consistent with how front doors are hinged), and Tamrissa's house has been described as a small mansion. These doors should be pretty big, but Mirra can't get in further than two steps. Presumably, they've been standing right on the threshold, so she's two steps inside the front door. What exactly is stopping her from charging around Tamrissa? quote:Petty outrage flashed across her overblown features, and my father frowned his disapproval. "Overblown features" will be a descriptor used for undesirable women over and over again in this series. quote:“Tamrissa, you will immediately step out of the way and allow us to come in,” my father ordered, the sternness in his tone demanding instant obedience. “There are serious matters to be discussed among us, and we have no intentions of doing that discussing while standing here like beggars.” so your heart ISN'T pounding right now? Why would you even think of this? Why use such a convoluted way of showing that when Tamrissa is touching the power, she's not scared of her father? Why not have Tamrissa marvelling at the fact that it's so easy to say that to him and mean it? quote:“If you have something to say, you can do it right here. Personally, I won’t mind if you take your trollop and just turn and leave.” Uh what? How exactly does the justice system in Gandistra work? Because this is just weird as hell. quote:“They’ll do more than listen with my suit added to that of the young lady’s family,” my father disagreed at once, his sleek smile very familiar. “Her parents are at this moment seeing about suing you for breaching the marriage agreement, and I’m suing you for alienating my daughter’s affections. Her own marriage was all arranged until you came along, and the court can reinstate that arrangement. Now do you think we might come in and sit down to talk?” Which, as Jovvi pointed out last time, Tamrissa never agreed to so it wouldn't be a valid arrangement anyway. quote:“No, we don’t,” I answered while Vallant hesitated, wiping away Mirra’s smugness and my father’s sleek smile, both at the same time. “You’re trying very hard to forget that we’re full participants in the upcoming competitions, but no one else wants to forget. One of our group was recently challenged in court, her word against the other woman’s. That other woman was given Puredan—which doesn’t let you lie—and afterward was sentenced to five years in the deep mines. If you’d like the same for yourselves, just go ahead and continue with those suits.” Literally this scene has been put in here for the sake of showing this random character not-growth, since Tamrissa hasn't learned anything about how to stand up for herself without leaning on a magical crutch. quote:I usually tried to defend myself against his attacks, but this time I’d counterattacked without the least hesitation. The action seemed to have frightened him, and his gaze and expression turned earnest. Atta girl. But also that written agreement wouldn't be a validly executed contract as far as I understand contract law. Any lawyers in the thread? quote:It’s really too bad that your plans are being ruined, Father, but it’s none of my concern. Just as the horror of the life you condemned me to was none of yours.” I do not understand how this man is supposed to be a genius business man, because that's terrible decision making. quote:“And so will I!” Mirra piped up, a spoiled-brat look on her face. “I’m not losin’ the man I love without a fight, especially since they won’t be sendin’ me anywhere. No man with eyes will ever do anythin’ ugly to a woman like me.” Because only cis/het relationships and people are represented in this work. quote:“The woman involved in that other matter Tamrissa mentioned was a retired courtesan,” Vallant commented, sounding as unimpressed as I had. “She hadn’t been retired all that long so she was still beautiful and desirable, and her residence for courtesans had made her wealthy. But havin’ beauty and gold didn’t help her, any more than it will be helpin’ you two. You go ahead and do what you need to, but don’t blame us if your game turns around and bites you.” Still waiting on an answer on WHY you even came to the door this time? quote:Vallant joined me in stepping out of the way, and the servant who had opened the door promptly closed it again in the faces of our visitors. So Mirra managed to charge in two steps, was stopped by Tamrissa, who hadn't moved, and Vallant has been beside her the entire time, and they were positioned so the servant could open the door (inwards, presumably) which implies they were out of the door's path of motion as it opens, yet they had to step out of the way to close the door? Also Mirra has planted herself right in front of Tamrissa, so how does that door not hit her in the face? quote:“That was nicely timed,” I said to the servant, feeling absolutely marvelous. “What’s your name?” And thank goodness for the end of these random encounters. I should be glad that Green decided three per protagonist was enough, that she combined Vallant and Tamrissa's last encounter and that she didn't need to stick to FIVE FIVE FIVE FIVE FIVE for these. quote:Hovan bowed his agreement to that and left, so Vallant and I headed back to the stairs. I’d had the feeling that Vallant was watching me, and as we began to ascend, he cleared his throat a bit. OH FFS VALLANT. quote:“It makes perfect sense,” I disagreed, paying attention to keeping my skirts held up rather than to how much I wanted to take his suggestion. “If things work out the way we both expect them to, we really won’t want to change partners once we lie together. Better that we see to the matter now, to keep from having to do it later.” FORESHADOWING! (which won't pay off until the sequel trilogy) quote:“I think I like you better when you aren’t touchin’ the power,” he grumbled, his hand still firmly under my elbow. “You don’t argue as well that way, even if you do argue as much. Are you tellin’ me that you and I won’t be lyin’ together until you and Lorand and Jovvi and I do?” If only Tamrissa had set this ultimatum like four chapters ago. quote:“And there’s really no reason for you to keep resisting. For all we know, you’ll find that you enjoy lying with Jovvi better than you do with me.” Then why can't you shut up with the constant "CAN I PLZ DO THE SEX TO YOU NOW?!?!?!" Vallant? Not-spoilers: his feelings don't go beyond that, because there is literally no substance to this relationship. quote:And with that he pulled me close and kissed me, refusing to let me say another word. Yeah, THAT bodes well for a relationship. quote:I would have expected to be frightened by such treatment, You SHOULD be! quote:but so much yearning flared inside me that there wasn’t enough room for fear. "It can't be sexual assault and you can't be scared if you're aroused." What the ACTUAL gently caress, Green?! quote:My hands spread out against the broadness of his back as I joined him eagerly in the kiss, and for a time the world faded and disappeared from around us. Only he and I were left in the universe, and I discovered that I also wanted more of him than just his body. Now that the Level 3 enemies have been vanquished, Tamrissa can dispense with Facts and Logic and get back to this nonsensical romance plot. I'm sorry, but you can't discover you want more of someone than just their body through KISSING. quote:It wasn’t at all long enough before he ended the kiss, grinning down at me when I tried to hold onto his lips with my own. This entire scene proves Vallant is right in his world view of thinking he can somebody into liking him and I hate it. quote:“You did that on purpose, so I refuse,” I mumbled, hating to have to insist but using the power to let me do it. “You’re a horrible, miserable man, and I won’t forget how you tortured me.” This entire exchange gives me high school vibes, of the kind where everybody is waiting for everybody else to decide if they want to do something/go someplace and nothing ends up happening as a result. quote:“Men!” I muttered, pushing aside the feeling that I still wasted my time. Half the battle was won, so now we only had the other half. Green's protagonists trying to be stealthy: Summary: Day 11 Meerk take Lorand and Tamrissa go to see Hat as a challenger to the Seated High in Earth magic. The whole contest is a sham. Lord Carmad Lestrin shows up to teach the protagonists how to Blend; the protagonists are very proud of themselves for hiding the signs of their own success. Tamrissa puts an end to all spying in the house by threatening to dob in anyone watching them since knowledge of Blending is highly classified. Another testing authority representative, Lord Twimmal, shows up to teach (badly) them to Blend. Jovvi finally figures out that they've all been drugged with Puredan to obey unknown orders. Meanwhile, Lord Idian shows up to teach the nobles how to Blend, but only Kambil and Delin are up. After Delin besmirches Rigos' reputation some more, Selendi, Homin and Bron finally show up. We get a THIRD lecture of "how to Blend" and Selendi and Bron can't reach Kambil. The three late arrivals are dismissed, then Kambil and Delin are told to have sex with Selendi ASAP, because that will somehow enable all of their magical connections to go through both Selendi AND Kambil. Kambil spends the afternoon messing around with everybody's heads (except for Delin). Delin has an assignation with a random MILF who is his source of intel for noble society gossip. The intel he gathers is related to his personal vendetta against Rigos which is utterly insignificant to the plot and delivered awkwardly via the worst sex scene in all eight books (which is really saying something). He ends the night by murdering Ollon Kapmar (the late Elfini's brother), except Delin doesn't remember the murder act, just the entire fantasy sequence leading up to it. By the end of Day 11, both groups have "Blended", though consistent with the "my protagonists are just so much more awesome than everybody else", Green's protagonists get it in one try while the nobles need a second attempt. Jovvi and Tamrissa realize polycule shenanigans need to occur for magical strengthening reasons. Tamrissa and Jovvi fail to seduce Lorand and Vallant respectively, because "bros before hos". Jovvi drags everybody into Lorand's room for a five-way conversation about group sex protocols which end up being all about soothing Vallant and Lorand's respective egos. Meanwhile, Rion sneaks off while the other four are busy drowning themselves in their sappy relationship drama to have his own sappy exchange with Naran, who needs a place to stay. They make arrangements for Naran to come back at night. After Naran leaves, Hallina shows up again. Rion tells her to go away, and she does, after the standard "you'll be sorry for this" parting speech. Everyone agrees to hide Naran. Meanwhile, Storn and Mirra turn up again. Tamrissa and Vallant also give them the "haha go away, we're untouchable because we're in the competitions" which cause Storn and Mirra to also go away after their "you'll be sorry!" speech. After yet another Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 44 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 23 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house MEALS ON-SCREEN: 28 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 18 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x2), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged (x2), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering (x1) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 31 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending) Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 91 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 49 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 16 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 25 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 73 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 46 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 57 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 31 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 11 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 8 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 8 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 8, including 1 rape scene (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: Reading through this mess, I can finally internalize why Sanderson decided to split and write Stormlight the way he did. Green's got too many plot points shoehorned into one book and she's trying to show all of the plot points happening to all of her POV characters at once. That, coupled with her awful "tell not show" prose, means that we never feel anything, other than incredibly frustrated and angry with these books. If I get bored at some point, I will cut up the ebooks by POV and try to read it that way, just to see if anything is improved by focusing on one POV at a time. I have a sneaking suspicion that while you'd still have to deal with her prose, just about everything else would be vastly improved by the sheer virtue of reducing all of the repetition. The constant recaps would actually be HELPFUL, because the POV character would not necessarily have experienced it on screen. Just think, if she had split her books by POV character, instead of by narrative timeline, and then self-published it, she could have done quite well. Maybe. I still think there's not enough variety on her POVs, but we've already established that her fanbase isn't actually that discerning.
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quote:CHAPTER TWENTY-EIGHT When Green was writing this chapter, she must have seen "picayune" on a word of the day calendar and decided to drop this anachronistic word in a book series where most of the time the prose level sits at like...seventh grade level. It is so jarring. quote:“Vallant and I will help, while Jovvi makes sure no one sees any of us.” Jovvi: "Simply being able to turn people into my mind slaves just ISN'T enough!!" quote:Somehow I feel that I should be able to do quite a bit more, things most people don’t even know are possible. And so should the rest of you.” Not-spoilers: Green will never do anything interesting with the magic system. quote:Her attention had returned from the distance, and now divided itself between Lorand and Rion. Rion looked … faintly vexed and troubled, and Lorand knew just how he felt. It's not your fault, Rion. After all, your author put very little imagination during the writing process. quote:“Maybe that’s something we can do for each other,” Jovvi mused as she studied Rion. “For instance, it’s occurred to me that solidified air can hide what someone behind it is doing if the air is also opaqued, but the area of blankness itself would be noticed. Is it at all possible to … to … superimpose a reflection of the innocent scene behind the activity, and hide it in that way? I know I’m not being clear in explaining what I mean, but—” Remember how a zillion chapters ago, we talked about how Air magic talents should basically have illusionist powers? GREEN THOUGHT ABOUT THIS! IT'S RIGHT HERE! AND NO SHE NEVER DOES ANYTHING WITH IT! quote:And I can almost see how that would be done … although normal background sounds would be absent, and someone watching might notice an occasional slip or lapse…” We had a mention of bonded animals in Chapter 1 of Book 1 and the best Green can come up with is this. I shouldn't be complaining, since Earth magic is so overpowered already, but still. quote:“And having the occasional slip ignored would be mine to do,” Jovvi added, her satisfaction so thick that Lorand was able to feel it with seven or eight feet between them. STOP WRITING THINGS LIKE THIS IN A BOOK WHERE SPIRIT MAGIC IS A THING! Lorand doesn't have Spirit magic! How about trying to express Jovvi's satisfaction through a sense that Lorand DOES have? Say, sight or hearing for example? quote:“I don’t have to speak to someone or even be very near them to make them doubt what they just saw, or feel too lazy to investigate what was probably their imagination. If we all work together, I’m sure we can accomplish it easily.” Spoilers for later this book: they have NOT yet properly Blended, so there's really no basis for what Lorand is saying here. They've surface linked, which is literally a transitional step that Green never goes anywhere with in the whole series. quote:but that would cover just the three of us. Where would Tamrissa and Vallant fit in?” There is zero context for Jovvi jumping to this conclusion of why a Blending needs to be able to function in a combative situation. quote:“Now I see it,” Lorand jumped in, beating Rion to it by no more than a breath. “Tamrissa is meant to attack a challenging group, and Vallant’s part is to defend us from a similar attack. Do they really go that far during a competition?” Green: "I picked a bad example where Water and Fire magic aren't relevant so um...yeah...let's go with this" quote:“Obviously they must,” Rion said when Jovvi hesitated. “The things we did to gain our masteries hinted at that, but Tamrissa isn’t the only one who needs to be able to attack. My own part can fall into the same category, but possibly not to begin with. Once Tamrissa gets their attention and softens them up, so to speak, then my ability to take away the air they breathe would come into play.” I don't think strangulation is necessary when they're already dying or severely injured from fourth degree burns? If they're even still alive? quote:“Or you would taint their air somehow,” Jovvi added with a nod. “While making sure the same doesn’t happen to our air. And Lorand would attack the ground they stood on, while defending our own ground. Vallant can add or take moisture from the air around them while keeping an eye on our own, and even Tamma will have to help to defend us while she attacks. My own part, I think, will be to coordinate the efforts, keep us all calm and assured, and possibly try to rattle our opponents at the same time. I wonder how much of that they’ll teach us before the competitions begin.” Why yes, every single aspect could attack AND defend! Whoever would have realized this? quote:“Teach us?” Lorand said with a snort. “They probably won’t even mention the possibilities. Like the fact that I can affect more than the ground our opponents stand on. The various demands of their bodies can be emphasized or glossed over, depending on which would be more effective. I may even be able to change their perceptions of what’s going on around them, especially if I have the help of Spirit magic.” Yeah, because Earth magic is overpowered. quote:“And I may be able to do more as well,” Rion said, again looking thoughtful. “As we’ve discussed, more may be done with air than simply taking it away or retaining it. And too bad we'll never see this! Until like...Book 6 or 7. quote:But the point which interests me most at this moment is: how much of this information will be given to most of our opponents? If one of the noble groups has been chosen to be the next Seated Five, will any of the other four be given more help than just what they need to prevail over the common Blendings?” My headcanon is Rion walks around with permanent because he's constantly thinking about Naran or having sex ever since he discovered sex is a thing. quote:“There’s one exception to what you just said, and we’d better keep it in mind,” Jovvi put in, also looking thoughtful. “Only four out of the five groups won’t know any more than we do. The fifth, the chosen Blending, will probably be fully trained. What I’d like to know is who’s supposed to face them first. That group won’t have a prayer of winning.” Which would create suspense and tension, if Green hadn't ALREADY SPOILED HER OWN BOOK at the end of the LAST book. Except that feels like so long ago that probably most of her fanbase has forgotten this so...y'know. quote:“Only if we aren’t missing some point we don’t know about,” Jovvi replied, apparently troubled. “I don’t trust those people at all, so I’ll feel much better if we don’t assume even the least, smallest thing. Which means we’ll have to do quite a bit of practicing, both individually and as a Blending.” Not-spoilers: Twimmal will know nothing. quote:“And speaking of more than we have at the moment, Vallant has agreed to be reasonable,” Tamrissa said, giving a brief glance to the man she referred to. “At least he’s being partially reasonable, since he still insists on making his agreement conditional on getting the same from Lorand. So now it’s up to you, Lorand. Do we make our Blending more effective, or do we go ahead as we are and work under a handicap?” Jovvi has done a thing that is ACTUALLY in character (at least the character that Green had set us up to meet back in Book 1). Here's something that a socially savvy person looking out for her own needs would do in order to manipulate the situation to her advantage. quote:Lorand joined the others in staring at Jovvi, and her return stare seemed defiant enough—if you failed to notice the faint suggestion of trembling beneath it all. Lorand studied her for a very long moment, and then had to show the smile which had grown inside him. And Green promptly undermines it all with unearned sincerity in an attempt to illustrate how Jovvi/Lorand are TRUE SOULMATES. quote:“I’ve always suspected there might be a benefit in being surrounded by demanding women,” he said, unable to take his eyes from Jovvi’s face. “Now, at last, I believe I’ve found that benefit. In other words, with everyone else willing, how can I refuse?” quote:The others all made some comment or other, STOP WRITING LIKE THIS! quote:but Jovvi simply returned his stare with the shyest smile he’d ever seen her show. Lorand hadn’t intended going near her again until and unless he found a solution to his problem, but he couldn’t stand to see her in pain from thinking she’d caused the rift between them. He would spend the night with her and gently explain the truth in a way she would have to believe, and then they’d be able to go their own ways until he became the kind of man she so much deserved. OMFG. quote:“If we’re goin’ to do this, let’s do it right now,” Vallant said, breaking the spell which had held Lorand’s gaze to Jovvi’s. “There’s plenty of time until dinner, and after dinner I mean to nap. We have a lot to do tonight, and after it’s done I don’t expect to be sleepin’ alone either. Rion will have our new resident ghost, so everybody ought to be happy.” Vallant: "COME ON COME ON COME ON I WANNA HAVE SEX NOOOOOOOOOW" quote:“We won’t know that for certain until tomorrow morning,” Tamrissa put in blandly, proving she hadn’t yet released the power. “But as far as right now goes, I agree with Vallant. Once we have this behind us, we’ll no longer need to spend hours talking about it.” I wish you guys hadn't spent so many chapters talking about it. quote:“I believe my own role has suddenly become lookout,” Rion said, rising from his chair. “I’ll watch for the air displacement which usually means the approach of a human being, and head off any servant who means to search out one of you. Are we agreed that none of us is going to be available to visitors until further notice?” DING DING DING! Rion's developed his own magical radar. 3 down, 2 to go. quote:“I’d better be the only exception to that,” Lorand said as he also stood. “I’ve promised to pay my friend Hat’s coach fare home, so he or that man Meerk ought to be stopping by. If one of them does, make arrangements for him to come back after dinner.” You guys have already blown your cover. Like at least five times. You know that right? quote:“I’d say we’ve come to the time where we’ll all be seein’ to our own affairs,” Vallant told him dryly, holding out his arm to Jovvi while most of them chuckled. “I’m at your service, dear lady.” Green: "Look at how witty my protagonists are! Aren't they just the drollest, funnest, bestest people?" quote:When the door closed behind them Lorand became aware of Tamrissa, who hadn’t joined in the last bit of amusement. She stood staring down at her hands, which suggested something to Lorand. Reminder that the last time we saw you have sex with a woman, you USED YOUR MAGICAL POWERS TO SQUEEZE HER INTERNAL ORGANS. quote:“That wasn’t what I was worrying about, but I still appreciate what you said,” she replied with a wan smile. “And you’re right, I did release the power. How did you know?” Nobody believes this. quote:And no, I’d rather not sit down and talk first. I think I’m more in need of being held in the arms of a friend.” It's because Tamrissa secretly knows that Green's romantic pairings are all off! If Green would just let Vallant/Rion/Jovvi/Naran exist in a happy little pansexual polycule of rich merchant kid, noble heir and sex entrepreneurs, then Tamrissa/Lorand could be a happy little monogamous pair, and we'd have some nice representation in the book. Book 8 spoilers: the thing upon which victory rests for the final book in the Blendingverse is each protagonist admitting that they love each other equally (or more specifically, that they love each of their sexual and romantic partners equally with no preference). Despite this, they still revert to these stupid pairs that Green set up from Book 1. FFS, seriously. quote:“No, it’s because I have no confidence at all in happy endings,” she replied with a sigh, back to looking miserable. “Not to mention having almost no confidence in myself. What if he decides that he is happier lying with Jovvi than with me? You’ll have nothing to worry about, not with Jovvi being as crazy about you as she is, but what will I do? It’s too late to forget about him…” Are you kidding me?!?!?!?!?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!? Vallant would 100% go to any lengths to sleep with any woman he's sexually fixated on. quote:And lying with a woman wasn’t the most important part of a relationship… If only we had seen any basis for that take from any of the male protagonists! quote:“Tamrissa, we’re going to have to find you a hobby,” he said at last with his own sigh. “The one you have now is just about guaranteed to make trouble for you and everyone else, so I’ll appreciate it if you consider giving it up.” That is offensive Lorand. I found it offensive when I read it as a 14 year old and I still find it offensive today, even as someone who DOES sew stuff. But we are in a regency era fantasy world with super regressive gender roles, so I guess it's totally in character. quote:The look she gave him then was rather odd, since she obviously struggled between laughter and indignation. After a moment the laughter won, and she shook her head ruefully. I can't tell if that's meant to refer to Lorand's soul or mind or if it's a euphemism for something else. quote:belonged to Jovvi, but his feelings for Tamrissa went well beyond fondness. He shared a bond with her Please stop writing like this in a book where magical bonds are a thing. quote:and more, mostly what people usually called friendship, although the word was pitifully inadequate. There was love of a sort between him and the small, beautiful woman in his arms, but a comfortable love rather than a romantic one. quote:So the kiss he began was warm and tender, coaxing her shyness into joining his effort. Her arms stole gingerly around him, the touch on his back hesitant, and it seemed that he now knew what it would be like to hold and kiss a doe. Uh. A very unfortunate choice of metaphor here, given Lorand's aspect. Thankfully Green's kink is badly portrayed BDSM, not beastiality. quote:Wide-eyed with nervousness, ready to run at the first frightening event, trembling very faintly with anxiety over what she was about to do… He would have to be exquisitely careful and gentle to keep her from bolting… This is the *counts* FIFTH sex protagonist scene from Green and it's still terrifying and not remotely erotic at all. Lorand has Earth magic which gives him the literal ability to control bodily functions, including arousal. How about trying to use that instead of grabbing at somebody's internal organs, Lorand? Also we're about to hit peak Green. quote:Her response took a moment or so to appear, but once it did she matched his mounting passion perfectly. Her kisses were hot as she stroked his body, and very quickly it felt to Lorand as though his blood were on fire. The flaming boil forced him to more frenzied activity, which in turn brought him to the point of no longer being able to keep from entering her. Being gentle as he did so proved horribly difficult, but for her sake he accomplished it. And how about trying to use your ability to control your own arousal? quote:And again her response was a bit hesitant, but then she moaned in pleasure and began to join him wholeheartedly. quote:He slowly increased the speed and intensity of his thrusting until they both tried frenziedly to fuse their flesh, her intense pleasure merging with and increasing his own. that sentence quote:It was mindlessness that they quickly slipped into, so it wasn’t possible for Lorand to know how long it took before he exploded in the ultimate ecstasy. Tamrissa had found her own ecstasy more than once, he knew, and after giving her a final kiss he lay beside her on the bed and tried to catch his breath. I swear Green put the sex mechanic in just so she could turn the figurative statement "set someone's blood on fire" into a literal thing. quote:“Lorand, stop,” she protested with a delightful blush that also seemed to be delighted. “I did no such thing.” Lorand: "you're a super special woman because you can do this one neat sex trick and if I wasn't already insanely obsessed with another woman, I would be trying my best to sleep with you again because that was the best sex trick ever" quote:“You’re more than just a friend, Lorand, and always will be,” she replied as she took his hand and squeezed it, a light sheen of tears in her lovely eyes as she smiled. “If the two years of my marriage was the price I had to pay in order to have you and Rion and Jovvi and Vallant, I’d be willing to pay it a second time just to make all this possible. And now I think it’s time for me to dress and leave.” And right there, we discover Lorand is just as much of an rear end as Vallant, he's just much sneakier about showing it. Getting dressed in the regency era is a massive pain in the rear end. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBsmEPoGeZs DO YOU SEE HOW MANY LAYERS AND THINGS TO TIE THERE ARE???? Summary: Day 11 Meerk take Lorand and Tamrissa go to see Hat as a challenger to the Seated High in Earth magic. The whole contest is a sham. Lord Carmad Lestrin shows up to teach the protagonists how to Blend; the protagonists are very proud of themselves for hiding the signs of their own success. Tamrissa puts an end to all spying in the house by threatening to dob in anyone watching them since knowledge of Blending is highly classified. Another testing authority representative, Lord Twimmal, shows up to teach (badly) them to Blend. Jovvi finally figures out that they've all been drugged with Puredan to obey unknown orders. Meanwhile, Lord Idian shows up to teach the nobles how to Blend, but only Kambil and Delin are up. After Delin besmirches Rigos' reputation some more, Selendi, Homin and Bron finally show up. We get a THIRD lecture of "how to Blend" and Selendi and Bron can't reach Kambil. The three late arrivals are dismissed, then Kambil and Delin are told to have sex with Selendi ASAP, because that will somehow enable all of their magical connections to go through both Selendi AND Kambil. Kambil spends the afternoon messing around with everybody's heads (except for Delin). Delin has an assignation with a random MILF who is his source of intel for noble society gossip. The intel he gathers is related to his personal vendetta against Rigos which is utterly insignificant to the plot and delivered awkwardly via the worst sex scene in all eight books (which is really saying something). He ends the night by murdering Ollon Kapmar (the late Elfini's brother), except Delin doesn't remember the murder act, just the entire fantasy sequence leading up to it. By the end of Day 11, both groups have "Blended", though consistent with the "my protagonists are just so much more awesome than everybody else", Green's protagonists get it in one try while the nobles need a second attempt. Jovvi and Tamrissa realize polycule shenanigans need to occur for magical strengthening reasons. Tamrissa and Jovvi fail to seduce Lorand and Vallant respectively, because "bros before hos". Jovvi drags everybody into Lorand's room for a five-way conversation about group sex protocols which end up being all about soothing Vallant and Lorand's respective egos. Meanwhile, Rion sneaks off while the other four are busy drowning themselves in their sappy relationship drama to have his own sappy exchange with Naran, who needs a place to stay. They make arrangements for Naran to come back at night. After Naran leaves, Hallina shows up again. Rion tells her to go away, and she does, after the standard "you'll be sorry for this" parting speech. Everyone agrees to hide Naran. Meanwhile, Storn and Mirra turn up again. Tamrissa and Vallant also give them the "haha go away, we're untouchable because we're in the competitions" which cause Storn and Mirra to also go away after their "you'll be sorry!" speech. After yet another Meanwhile, Jovvi, Rion and Lorand engage in kindergarten level speculation about what they could be magically capable of. Upon Vallant and Tamrissa's return, Jovvi announces her own ultimatum of "I won't sleep with Vallant unless I get to sleep with Lorand afterwards". Cue polycule shenanigans, beginning with Tamrissa and Lorand. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 44 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 23 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house MEALS ON-SCREEN: 28 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 19 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x2), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged (x3), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering (x2), fuse their flesh (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 31 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending) Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 91 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 49 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 16 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 26 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 73 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 47 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 57 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 31 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 11 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 8 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 8 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 9, including 1 rape scene (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: The whole discussion of "what can magic do in this world" should have been SHOWN in a bunch of different scenes. Like those time trial competitions or small scale arena battles. That is all.
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quote:CHAPTER TWENTY-NINE Rion continues to be the best character in these books. quote:“What are you thinking about?” Jovvi asked curiously as he closed the door behind himself. “Your face is wearing the strangest expression.” 100% amateur hour here. Green's writing this as if Jovvi's pulled off some amazing achievement but this really doesn't reflect well on Jovvi at all. quote:“You seem to be sure I didn’t touch him because you’re sure of me, and I thank you for that,” she said with a dimple-filled smile. “Touching him with my ability wouldn’t have been fair, but I was almost ready to do it anyway if that trick hadn’t worked. And to tell the truth, it wasn’t completely a trick. I’m just about desperate enough to do exactly as I said I would. Because of my big mouth.” This really, really doesn't have the effect that Green thinks it does. quote:“You couldn’t help it any more than Lorand can help feelin’ as he does,” Vallant said, moving closer to put a hand under her chin. “Neither one of you is to blame, so stop thinkin’ about what was and start thinkin’ about what will be. But not everythin’ that will be.” no kidding?! quote:“It’s bothering you that Tamma stayed behind with Lorand,” she stated, just as though he’d said the words first himself. “You aren’t jealous, just … bothered. Is there anything I can do to help?” FORESHADOWING! quote:“When I say I know exactly how you feel, please believe I mean it in every sense of the words,” she agreed with a sigh. Why would he not believe you? YOU'VE GOT SPIRIT MAGIC, YOU CAN LITERALLY FEEL HIS FEELINGS. quote:“I won’t believe that Lorand is back beside me until it actually happens, and waiting for it to happen is killing me. You … don’t really mind that we’ll be lying together, do you? I know you agreed to go along with the necessity, but I also know you still have certain reservations.” This is the most awkward transition to foreplay and it's in the scene with the two most sexually experienced and confident protagonists. quote:She came into his arms with a smile then, and began to raise his interest with a kind of coaxing-teasing combination that he’d never experienced before. I have literally no idea what this is supposed to mean. quote:It felt perfectly natural and real, as though his mere presence excited her passions, and his response grew faster and more intense. He felt tempted to think that it was just her expertise as a courtesan at work, but something told him it was much more than that. Why yes, Spirit magic is a thing??? quote:His feelings for Jovvi were surpassed only by his feelings for Tamrissa, and he suspected she felt the same about him in relation to Lorand. I feel like if Green had done more work establishing why monogamy is a strict thing in this world, I'd be cutting her more slack. As it is, I'm a bit like, I don't see why you guys are making such a drama out of this situation. quote:Their kissing quickly progressed to caressing, and then they began to rid themselves of their clothes. Jovvi was an extremely beautiful woman, and Vallant hadn’t been lying about how desirable he considered her. She aroused him completely in a very short time, and once they were entirely unclothed he did the same for her. When she was fully ready for him he entered her, and the pleasure was long-lasting and very intense. it's like Green realized how bad the prose was in the last chapter and went the other direction to write what is possibly the most pedestrian sex quote:Afterward she lay with her cheek on his chest, her saity a full match to his own satisfaction. They spent a few moments simply breathing, and then she chuckled. We're about to get into more Green weirdness. At first, this seems like it's Green's way of saying how great her male protagonists are at doing the sex. Also this is such a weird thing for Jovvi to say during a post coital conversation. Like, you realize as a courtesan that your sexual pleasure is not generally the point? I hate how Green has written this Satine fantasy. quote:“Odd may not be a strong enough word,” Vallant said slowly as he digested the idea with brows raised. “Tamrissa started out as a woman who cringed even if her hand was touched by a man, but she’s already lain with Rion, is in the process of lyin’ with Lorand, and apparently intends to lie with me at some time. Pointing out your narrative flaws doesn't excuse you for making them in the first place, Green. quote:Lorand and I are so deeply into this thing that I doubt he can think about other women any more than I can. What does this even mean? What is "this thing"? quote:And Rion… Goin’ from bein’ a virgin to bein’ the first among us to lie with both of you This is the only thing about the entire polycule storyline that I thought was true to the characters. quote:… and the fact that Lorand and I were more concerned about his well-bein’ than jealous of him… No, odd is definitely not a strong enough word.” I'm pretty confused why you guys even thought Rion would be hurt. quote:“You’re absolutely right,” Jovvi said with a frown, having straightened to sitting so that she might look at him. “My first thought was that the Blending had caused it, but that can’t be true because much of that happened before we Blended. So what did cause it?” FORESHADOWING. Spoilers for all of the Blendingverse if you can't wait until the last chapter of Book 8 (which we'll get to in like...a few years I'd guess): so they were brought together by the advanced Blendings from the other continent but there were no Spirit magic shenanigans involved, it's just that these guys are literally soul Blendingmates so it's like magical six way true love quote:“Somehow I have the feeling that we need to know this answer as soon as possible,” Jovvi replied as she ran both hands through her hair. Knowing the answer will have literally no impact on the plot because the answer is not useful, hence why it's only revealed in the last chapter of Book 8. quote:“Not that our needing it will bring the answer on magical wings. I think I’m getting very tired of discovering mysteries we can’t yet solve, and I’m no longer in the mood to just lie here oozing satisfaction. What I need is a bath, and maybe even a bit of a swim. Please feel free to stay as long as you like, even if it means still being here when I get back. I won’t mind.” Spoilers again: IT'S MAGIC! quote:Thoughts, however, were another matter. Vallant put his hands behind his head and thought about Tamrissa, how she would look lying beside him, how she would feel in his arms, how soft her lips had been during that too-brief kiss. Being with her would be ecstasy beyond description—if nothing happened to stop it… Green is doing so much to hype up the eventual Vallant/Tamrissa sex scene. Not-spoilers: she does not deliver. quote:* * * I don't know why you guys are bothering. Over the past few hours, you guys have congregated together in ONE bedroom (suspicious), then two of you were seen acting as a united front to rebuff unwanted visitors (very suspicious), then four of you slept with each other (hella suspicious). Everybody with any powers of observation in this residence knows this "we hate each other" act is totally fake. quote:“You’d better learn to watch where you’re going,” Jovvi said as quickly as possible, now aware that two people, both out of sight, were watching and listening. “If you don’t, you might actually end up bruised.” These spies have zero powers of observation. quote:It took Jovvi only a couple of minutes to reach the bath house, with Tamma hurrying along only a few small steps behind. She walked inside with senses extended in all directions, but their privacy was actually complete—at least for the moment. For that reason she waited until the door was closed again, then she turned to Tamma with a grin. It was TWO minutes. Not even. Probably one. quote:“After that we enjoyed lying together, but once the enjoyment was over our thoughts returned to you two. If you think he’s any less anxious now to spend the night with you, you’re in for something of a very big surprise.” There are so many more things about the magic system that we could get a scene on, and we're going to get a girl talk scene focusing on weird magical sex tricks. quote:“Well, of course, why didn’t I think of that before?” Jovvi said, definitely annoyed with herself as she led the way toward the benches. “It isn’t only your beauty and air of innocence that attracts all those men, it’s also the fact that your aspect is Fire. Allestine’s aspect is Fire, and it served her so well that she was able to open her own residence.” How would you know, Jovvi? Vallant's sailed tons of ports, he's no stranger to courtesans and other sex workers and we never learned what Mirra's aspect was (okay probably not Fire, but still). Also, based on the reports in Book 1, Fire magic is not exactly a rare thing. quote:“Yes, but not as much as I was,” Tamma said with a short, breathless laugh. “Oh, Jovvi, I wish I knew how to make it happen on purpose! Did Allestine learn to control the ability?” quote:“I wonder how strong she was,” Tamma mused as she rid herself of the wrap and book and began to remove her clothing. “Maybe you have to have a certain strength before you can establish control, but what about touching the power? Will a full grip on it help you with control, or simply add to the strength of the ability?” See the BETTER question to ask here is: if this is just a side affect that Fire magic can do at sexy times, does that mean Bron also has this ability? Or is it women only, because Green ? I swear Fire magic just wasn't interesting enough so Green decided to throw this into the mix. quote:Jovvi submerged herself briefly but completely, pushed back her sopping wet hair, then began to swim back and forth a bit. She had her own anxieties to work off, at least for the time being. I really need to know how big this bath house is, because it sounds like a small indoor pool. quote:Tamma had already finished washing when Jovvi decided she’d had enough of swimming, so Jovvi did her own washing quickly and then took the headrest next to Tamma’s. She’d been watching with her ability to make sure they remained unobserved, and since they still had their privacy she decided to mention an important point that hadn’t yet been discussed with Tamma. Green: "It's been a while since I implied that my protagonists are in TERRIBLE DANGER of being SPLIT UP, so I guess I should throw some more obsessing over this non-threat in here." quote:“They could use the excuse that we haven’t yet Blended, which is the truth as far as they know it,” Tamma said, sitting up at the urging of the disturbance inside her. “That means we have to make it official tomorrow, so they won’t have that particular excuse. And now I think I know what that so-called Lord Carmad meant when he commented about me.” Jovvi continues to suck at anything that she should actually be good at, given her background. quote:“When he called me forward first and I went to stand in front of him, I was nearly petrified with fright,” Tamma explained. “Only a blind man could have missed how I felt, and he sneered out something about how my reaction was to be expected, considering the way the testing authority liked to do things. He knew I was supposed to be aggressive, and his sneer was for the fact that I wasn’t.” Spoilers for book 4 there is a secret commoner organization headed up by Meerk, but spoilers for Book 8 "Lord Carmad" isn't part of that organization. quote:“If he does come back, I’m going to make sure he doesn’t see the other side of me,” Tamma said, this time surprising Jovvi. “I’ve learned a certain cynicism of my own from my father, which tells me that one visit from the man means he’s on our side, but two will mean he’s working for our enemies. They would expect us to decide that Carmad is on our side, from the way he helped us. Then, when he reappears, we let him in on any secrets we may be hiding from the authority.” Watch our protagonists Facts and Logic their way out of the author's inability to plot. quote:“I’m tempted to feel that not telling him will keep him from sharing what we need to know if he is on our side,” Tamma fretted, still not relaxing back in the water. “That doesn’t necessarily hold true, but it’s certainly a possibility. If he does come back, do you think we can use the Blending to find out the truth?” With this kind of attitude, you can justify anything! quote:“What I really hate is living like this,” Tamma said, finally sinking back to the headrest. “All this intrigue and doubt, lying and being spied on, sneaking around and pretending all the time… Sometimes I wish the competitions would start tomorrow, just to put all the rest of it behind us.” I really don't understand how an event this momentous doesn't have the exact time and date known to everyone. This is magical Olympics crossed with a coronation crossed with death match elections. There should be visitors POURING into Gan Garee, from across the whole continent. quote:A sigh escaped Jovvi, showing how weary she herself had become of the game they were caught up in. But their futures and possibly even their lives were at stake, so weariness was a luxury she couldn’t afford. Vallant meant to meet with the small ex-groom Pagin Holter, Jovvi knew, so she had to remember to tell Vallant that they needed to ask about “Lord Carmad.” And to pass on a warning, just in case the man really was an enemy. This meeting is just an excuse for Pagin to infodump stuff to the protagonists. quote:The warm water was deliciously relaxing, but Jovvi’s mind simply couldn’t rest. Now that she’d laid the groundwork with Tamma, it ought to be easier to break the news to the girl that she was considered to be the most important one among them. And after they all saw what their Blending was capable of, she might have to work with Lorand and Vallant on their problems. And with Rion’s lady in the house, would it be harder for the man to concentrate? And come to think of it, could his Naran be one of the enemy herself? You definitely don't have the skills to do this EVEN THOUGH YOU SHOULD. Summary: Day 11 Meerk take Lorand and Tamrissa go to see Hat as a challenger to the Seated High in Earth magic. The whole contest is a sham. Lord Carmad Lestrin shows up to teach the protagonists how to Blend; the protagonists are very proud of themselves for hiding the signs of their own success. Tamrissa puts an end to all spying in the house by threatening to dob in anyone watching them since knowledge of Blending is highly classified. Another testing authority representative, Lord Twimmal, shows up to teach (badly) them to Blend. Jovvi finally figures out that they've all been drugged with Puredan to obey unknown orders. Meanwhile, Lord Idian shows up to teach the nobles how to Blend, but only Kambil and Delin are up. After Delin besmirches Rigos' reputation some more, Selendi, Homin and Bron finally show up. We get a THIRD lecture of "how to Blend" and Selendi and Bron can't reach Kambil. The three late arrivals are dismissed, then Kambil and Delin are told to have sex with Selendi ASAP, because that will somehow enable all of their magical connections to go through both Selendi AND Kambil. Kambil spends the afternoon messing around with everybody's heads (except for Delin). Delin has an assignation with a random MILF who is his source of intel for noble society gossip. The intel he gathers is related to his personal vendetta against Rigos which is utterly insignificant to the plot and delivered awkwardly via the worst sex scene in all eight books (which is really saying something). He ends the night by murdering Ollon Kapmar (the late Elfini's brother), except Delin doesn't remember the murder act, just the entire fantasy sequence leading up to it. By the end of Day 11, both groups have "Blended", though consistent with the "my protagonists are just so much more awesome than everybody else", Green's protagonists get it in one try while the nobles need a second attempt. Jovvi and Tamrissa realize polycule shenanigans need to occur for magical strengthening reasons. Tamrissa and Jovvi fail to seduce Lorand and Vallant respectively, because "bros before hos". Jovvi drags everybody into Lorand's room for a five-way conversation about group sex protocols which end up being all about soothing Vallant and Lorand's respective egos. Meanwhile, Rion sneaks off while the other four are busy drowning themselves in their sappy relationship drama to have his own sappy exchange with Naran, who needs a place to stay. They make arrangements for Naran to come back at night. After Naran leaves, Hallina shows up again. Rion tells her to go away, and she does, after the standard "you'll be sorry for this" parting speech. Everyone agrees to hide Naran. Meanwhile, Storn and Mirra turn up again. Tamrissa and Vallant also give them the "haha go away, we're untouchable because we're in the competitions" which cause Storn and Mirra to also go away after their "you'll be sorry!" speech. After yet another Meanwhile, Jovvi, Rion and Lorand engage in kindergarten level speculation about what they could be magically capable of. Upon Vallant and Tamrissa's return, Jovvi announces her own ultimatum of "I won't sleep with Vallant unless I get to sleep with Lorand afterwards". Cue polycule shenanigans, beginning with Tamrissa and Lorand, then Jovvi and Vallant. Afterwards, Tamrissa and Jovvi pretend feud their way to the bath house so they can have girl talk about Fire magic weird sex tricks and more discussion. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 44 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 23 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house MEALS ON-SCREEN: 28 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 20 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x2), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged (x3), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 31 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending) Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 91 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 49 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 16 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 26 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 73 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 49 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 57 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 31 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 12 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 8 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 8 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 10, including 1 rape scene (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: That entire sex scene was completely pointless and told us nothing new! What a wasted opportunity. Even Green is getting tired of writing these sex scenes.
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quote:CHAPTER THIRTY It's a Tamrissa chapter so we know we're in for a doozy. quote:Jovvi was so deep in thought that she didn’t seem to see me, I have just realized that Green would have been a great writer for NPCs. Because all of her characters have about as much depth as random NPCs. quote:so I used a bit of the power to heat all the moisture from my body and hair, I can't remember if we've read about someone using their magical talent for personal hygiene purposes five times yet or not. I'm fairly certain that we have or might be getting to that point. quote:got into my wrap and picked up my clothes and book, and left the bath house. Actually I pretended to run out of the bath house, also pretending that I’d been driven out of it by a sharp-tongued enemy. Because you guys are the worst actors in the Blendingverse. quote:It was just something to think about to keep me from thinking about Vallant. For all intents and purposes I’d promised to spend most of the night with him, and the conflict in my emotions was driving me insane. what danger? Does ANYONE buy that there's danger? Even if there is, it's like Tamrissa confused Lorand (farm boy with no money and no connections) with Vallant (scion of a major shipping merchant family with stacks of gold to his name who punched his way up the ranks from cabin boy to captain). quote:Ignoring the sitting room, I carried my burdens through the bedchamber and disposed of them properly. I was very much in the mood to drop everything in a heap and then turn my back on the heap, but that would have been too much like running away from my problems. Turning your back and forgetting about things is easy—until the giant pile of problems you’ve built topples down on your head. Green should have printed that last sentence out and looked at it more when she was plotting and revising this book. Assuming she ever actually revised it at all. quote:So I put the book on a table and the worn clothes with the rest of my things needing washing, then lay down on my bed to think about my problem with Vallant. The plan I’d come up with, to let my power-enhanced self annoy him to the point of making him walk away, might not work, but it was the only thing I could think of. That was probably because I didn’t want to think of anything else, not when it would end any relationship even before it began. That's...not a plan. quote:But ending things was in Vallant’s best interests, so I knew I’d just have to keep trying. These self-righteous know-it-all protagonists are the reason that these books are so full of useless drama. quote:If only thoughts of being with him didn’t distract me so badly… I turned over onto my back to push those personal thoughts away, but they refused to go. Platinum blond hair and pale blue eyes above a devilish grin forced their way in front of my mind’s eye, then drew me along into the realm of marvelous daydreams. I don't understand why Green doesn't use multiple sections in her chapters. She clearly knows sections are possible in chapters, because she's done them before, but she only ever does them when she has multiple POVs per chapter. So we just got 4 useless paragraphs describing Tamrissa killing time, with nothing interesting happening whatsoever. quote:As it happened, when I woke up it was to remember a strange, disturbing dream. I’d been standing in a large, indistinct room, all alone while being almost completely surrounded by a lot of men. To my relief the men were ignoring me, and then suddenly, without warning, a flow of flames began to leak out of me at several points. In frantic fright I began to try to stop the leaks, but stopping one simply started the leak in another place. This is the only time there'll be a dream on page, though there is another dream-related plot thing that happens in the sequel trilogy around Book 8. I have no idea why Green thought it was necessary to put this in here. It doesn't tell us anything we don't already know about the characters and it doesn't foreshadow anything new. quote:And then that sound came again, only now I was awake enough to realize that it was knocking rather than footsteps. I looked at the door, trying to discern the shape of the person out there knocking, to see if I’d yet learned to tell man from woman. But there was no shape of heat outside my door, which meant either that the person knocking was dead, or the door knocked by itself. Oooook...so we just got a vital bit of information around how magic works on a very basic level in the middle of BOOK THREE. I'd forgotten about this mechanic, but the only way I can interpret this is that the power is like the Aristotelian idea of the aether that permeates everything and when you're in touch with the power you can mentally phase through things. Which explains a lot about how Water magic works when there's no line of sight. What an overpowered mechanic! And no information on range, or anything else. We don't know how far away Rion's room is from Tamrissa's but since she's got a suite in a small mansion, that's at least, what? 20 meters? I don't understand how personal security isn't a huge business in the Blendingverse. quote:Which left me with nothing but the memory of that dream as I got up to wash my face. The idea of flame leaking out of me like water was ridiculous, but it hadn’t felt ridiculous in the dream, it had been terrifying. I hadn’t been able to make it stop, and all those men had been drawn to me because of it… I... what? He's not a doll, Tamrissa. There's such a disconnect between the overhyping of the zoo of antagonists and their actual effectiveness. The only one who is remotely scary is Delin, because we know he's a) severely unhinged and b) seen him plotting and attempting murders. quote:I’d dried off on a towel and was brushing my hair when another knock came at my door, but this time someone actually stood on the other side. I opened the door to find Jovvi, who gave me a warm smile. Jovvi will never use this ability to put people to sleep ever again until some time in the sequel trilogy, at which point Green's forgotten about this first instance. quote:I nodded my agreement, trying not to frown at the flood of words she’d sent at me. Jovvi didn’t usually ramble like that, and somehow she seemed more excited than calm. For a moment the change was puzzling, and then I realized that the time was drawing nearer to when she would be with Lorand again. I watched her hurry back across my sitting room, probably on the way to let the men know where to come, and silently wished her all possible happiness with Lorand. It would be nice to know that at least someone was happy… This is the SECOND TIME a woman has referred to another woman as belonging to a man and I HATE IT. It's pretty mild compared to some of Green's other stuff (the Terrilian series had actual slave collars) but I still hate it. STOP IT. quote:The question stopped me in my tracks, so to speak, because it was such a good one. We were all half killing ourselves pretending we weren’t getting along, but all our efforts would be out the window once we cooperated to sneak the woman in. What I want to know is how everybody else let Rion know they were awake. Did Lorand take control of some bodily function of Rion's? Did Jovvi change his emotions? Did Vallant go slosh around some water in Rion's washstand or create a mini ice sculpture in his tea cup? I wish we had gotten this chapter from Rion's POV instead of Tamrissa's; it would have been much more interesting. quote:“Your staying out of the hall to do the waking was worth being startled,” Jovvi replied with a smile. “One of our watchers had set himself up where he has a view of our rooms, but he didn’t seem curious or disturbed enough to have noticed the knocking. He’s asleep now, so for the moment we needn’t worry about him.” Jovvi is just as heavy handed as Kambil. More so, probably, seeing how Kambil is successfully messing around with his Blendingmates heads' with nobody being any wiser to it. quote:“I didn’t mean to hurt your feelings, but this is all so very important to me. You four and she comprise the very fabric of my existence, and to think there might be a reason for your not getting along…” Rion's read and internalized way too many romance novels. quote:“So we’ll just have to kill the doubt with truth,” Jovvi said briskly. “I think we ought to use our Blending to get Naran into the house if we can, but I’m somewhat nervous about using it to question her. We don’t yet know what we’re doing with it—not to mention what we might be capable of—and the last thing we’d want to do is hurt the girl. What do the rest of you think?” Write this story instead! quote:“But not a very practical one,” Rion said, clearly forcing himself to participate. “Each member of the Blending is always surrounded by guards when they come out of the palace, and when they’re inside the guards are on the grounds and three deep in the halls. It’s a marvelous idea, but as I said, not very practical.” Oh FFS. Gosh darn pesky Facts and annoying Logic! quote:“And there’s no guarantee that the members of the present Five actually know what we’re searching for,” Jovvi suggested. “If our suspicions are true and they were chosen for their place rather than having won it, they might know almost as little as we do. Why don’t we Blend again, and then see if we can make any headway?” Thanks for an entirely pointless detour, Green. quote:The idea of that perked us all up, and as I put my cup of tea aside before starting to move into my assigned place, I had to suppress a surge of eager excitement. I very much wanted to Blend again, but even beyond that, time was passing. In just a little while we’d know the truth about Naran after having practiced as a Blending, and then it would be time to go to bed again… Summary: Day 11 Meerk take Lorand and Tamrissa go to see Hat as a challenger to the Seated High in Earth magic. The whole contest is a sham. Lord Carmad Lestrin shows up to teach the protagonists how to Blend; the protagonists are very proud of themselves for hiding the signs of their own success. Tamrissa puts an end to all spying in the house by threatening to dob in anyone watching them since knowledge of Blending is highly classified. Another testing authority representative, Lord Twimmal, shows up to teach (badly) them to Blend. Jovvi finally figures out that they've all been drugged with Puredan to obey unknown orders. Meanwhile, Lord Idian shows up to teach the nobles how to Blend, but only Kambil and Delin are up. After Delin besmirches Rigos' reputation some more, Selendi, Homin and Bron finally show up. We get a THIRD lecture of "how to Blend" and Selendi and Bron can't reach Kambil. The three late arrivals are dismissed, then Kambil and Delin are told to have sex with Selendi ASAP, because that will somehow enable all of their magical connections to go through both Selendi AND Kambil. Kambil spends the afternoon messing around with everybody's heads (except for Delin). Delin has an assignation with a random MILF who is his source of intel for noble society gossip. The intel he gathers is related to his personal vendetta against Rigos which is utterly insignificant to the plot and delivered awkwardly via the worst sex scene in all eight books (which is really saying something). He ends the night by murdering Ollon Kapmar (the late Elfini's brother), except Delin doesn't remember the murder act, just the entire fantasy sequence leading up to it. By the end of Day 11, both groups have "Blended", though consistent with the "my protagonists are just so much more awesome than everybody else", Green's protagonists get it in one try while the nobles need a second attempt. Jovvi and Tamrissa realize polycule shenanigans need to occur for magical strengthening reasons. Tamrissa and Jovvi fail to seduce Lorand and Vallant respectively, because "bros before hos". Jovvi drags everybody into Lorand's room for a five-way conversation about group sex protocols which end up being all about soothing Vallant and Lorand's respective egos. Meanwhile, Rion sneaks off while the other four are busy drowning themselves in their sappy relationship drama to have his own sappy exchange with Naran, who needs a place to stay. They make arrangements for Naran to come back at night. After Naran leaves, Hallina shows up again. Rion tells her to go away, and she does, after the standard "you'll be sorry for this" parting speech. Everyone agrees to hide Naran. Meanwhile, Storn and Mirra turn up again. Tamrissa and Vallant also give them the "haha go away, we're untouchable because we're in the competitions" which cause Storn and Mirra to also go away after their "you'll be sorry!" speech. After yet another Meanwhile, Jovvi, Rion and Lorand engage in kindergarten level speculation about what they could be magically capable of. Upon Vallant and Tamrissa's return, Jovvi announces her own ultimatum of "I won't sleep with Vallant unless I get to sleep with Lorand afterwards". Cue polycule shenanigans, beginning with Tamrissa and Lorand, then Jovvi and Vallant. Afterwards, Tamrissa and Jovvi pretend feud their way to the bath house so they can have girl talk about Fire magic weird sex tricks and more discussion. Thanks to that discussion, Tamrissa has a nightmare. Everyone confronts Rion about the possibility that Naran could be a spy and he reluctantly agrees to let her be magically questioned. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 44 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 23 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house MEALS ON-SCREEN: 28 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 20 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x2), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged (x3), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 31 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending) Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 91 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 49 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 16 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 27 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 74 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 50 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 59 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 31 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 12 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 8 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 8 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 10, including 1 rape scene (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: This chapter, and the next couple of chapters that follow, should all have been a single chapter from Rion's POV, and STARTED with them all in Tamrissa's sitting room. He's the one with the most at stake so it would have been better dramatically to be inside his head! But no, we're stuck with Tamrissa, since she's the author's self insert. UGHHHHH.
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# ? Sep 19, 2021 13:22 |
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quote:CHAPTER THIRTY-ONE Green: "Hint hint hint hint hint it's totally not required" quote:Lorand closed his own eyes and opened a bit to the power, and then Jovvi’s touch was there. He returned it almost automatically, at the same time reaching to the others, and in the next instant they’d Blended again. It all happened so fast that it was breathtaking, but one … layer, so to speak, of Lorand’s mind remained capable of a cool assessment. To that layer it was clear that his connections to the other men through Jovvi were solid and complete, as was his connection to Tamrissa and, through her, to Rion. But his bond to Vallant through Tamrissa was definitely weaker than all the others, which proved that the ladies had been right about intimacy. These magical bonds still don't make sense. Here's the physical formation they're standing in: pre:T R J V L pre:T | R ––J–– V | L pre:T | | R===J===V | | L pre:T //| |\\ R===J===V \\| |// L pre:T //| |\\ R==+=+==V \\| |// L quote:*I apologize for having made a fuss earlier about lying with Jovvi,* the Vallant part of their Blended entity sent to everyone else. *I wasn’t able to feel a difference the first time we Blended, but now there’s no doubt. My bond to Lorand and Rion is much stronger through Jovvi, which means we still aren’t entirely complete.* The protagonists are experiencing a near-mythical magical experience that has been described as the ultimate ecstasy so we should be getting an immense sense of wonder. But Green, so, there is zero sense of wonder. This is so painful to read. quote:*I wonder just how far this ability extends,* the Tamrissa part of them mused. *Do you think we’d be able to float outside, for instance, without going there physically?* This is the first explicit introduction of the other magical mechanic Green leans heavily on which I HATE WITH A PASSION. Spoilers for the rest of the Blendingverse books apparently there is some sort of universal repository of memories and/or knowledge which exists either in the power or in the mechanic of Blending or both of these things and when you are connected to the power long enough or exist as a Blending entity long enough, the power will magically dump these memories into your head and OMFG that's the laziest writing ever. quote:Lorand considered her question as he looked around, finding the sight of his unmoving body vaguely amusing. People spoke about being in two places at once, but no one he knew had ever actually accomplished it. Then he noticed something odd which immediately became three odd things, so he decided to ask about them. I am SO MAD that this is what you're supposed to be able to see with the various elemental talents and NONE OF THIS has shown up in any of the POV chapters so far and we are THREE FREAKING BOOKS INTO THIS SERIES. In my view, these sorts of explicit things should have been described, like this (ideally more vividly but this is as vivid as Green gets so you know) in the FIRST FIVE CHAPTERS OF BOOK ONE. AAARRRGHGHGGHHGGHGHGH. quote:*I have the feeling we can do better,* Jovvi mused into the general sense of delight. *It seems as if our Blending should be a single entity without individual parts, rather than the partial sharing we’re now accomplishing. Let’s all lean into it a bit more, and then see what happens.* This description applies because our protagonists are True Soulmates so they NEVER disagree on anything when Blended, hence they become one super character of "the entity" whenever they Blend. Later on, we will see that this is not the case for some other Blendings (but never any Blendings that are on the protagonists' side, because they're on the side of Good you see). quote:Outside the world was filled with life, but much of it slept in the wraparound darkness. The entity noted all that life in passing as it floated around toward the front of the house. It knew it could have moved a good deal faster than it was doing, but caution continued to prevail. It was wiser to walk before trying to run, to float slowly before flying with the wind. And the wind was there as an awareness rather than as a sensation, as was the heat and cold of temperature. The entity knew all there was to know about those things, but felt neither heat nor cold nor buffeting. The entity realized that was most likely due to the lack of a body, on those points, at least, a fortunate lack. This is such dry, boring prose and I think Green might be doing this deliberately rather than accidentally. The Blending entities are supposed to be somewhat inhuman/detached from things. quote:And then the entity’s attention was taken by the sense of awareness coming from four separate sources. It had floated to the front of the house and down the drive, and now hovered close to the street. To the left of the drive and on the opposite side of the street was a coach, containing two of the awarenesses. Both were male and both were bored, despite the game of cards they played. Every few minutes one or the other looked out the window, to eye with suspicion something that stood to the right of the drive. FORESHADOWING! Also, what I hate the MOST about any chapters with a Blending entity POV (which I'm going to count as distinct from a protagonist POV) is that it exacerbates all of the worst qualities of Green's prose. quote:The entity realized that the Naran awareness was early, and also that she raised up now and again to search the street behind her carriage. She was definitely aware of being observed, and seemed to be dreading the arrival of some nameless horror. The entity felt her inward shiver, and abruptly decided on a course of action. It's telling how vague Green has been with her writing that I can't tell if the entity used Spirit or Earth magic. I'm guessing it's Earth magic, since a direct touch inside the head implies being made unconscious, whereas Spirit magic at this stage typically is a suggestion, but that phrase is also used to describe Spirit magic to override people, so... quote:And then it was the woman Naran that the entity touched, sending her into a state of floating much like its own. The contact was difficult to maintain, however, so relevant questions had to be put rather quickly. FORESHADOWING! Spoilers for Book 5: the men in the other coach are Storn's henchmen, a.k.a "that pig" and "the beast". quote:There were no other questions that needed to be put at the moment, so the entity broke its connection to her with a great deal of relief, then put her to sleep as it had the others. Then the entity began the next phase of its plan. It moved back quickly to the house, caused the front door to unlock, then used hardened air to open the door. Once that was done it was possible to move the woman’s belongings out of the carriage, all of it borne along either on hardened air or solidly frozen water. SUPER stealthy guys! quote:It was necessary to take the belongings up to the second floor the long and difficult way, and once they were deposited in an empty bedchamber, another discovery was made. Just casually messing around with people's minds, no biggie. quote:After opening the door to the sitting room where its bodies stood, the entity returned to the carriage much more quickly than it had come. It was now time to move the woman herself, and the entity discovered that it was able to take strength from more than one source to form a bed of solidified air to carry her on. But not all the strength available was used for that purpose. One definite segment of the entity was on guard against attack and prepared to launch an attack of its own, and the augmented strength of that segment was not to be diverted. Translation (because this is super unclear): the sources of strength are the individuals making up the Blending. quote:What remained, however, was more than enough. The woman was borne carefully into the house and up to the second floor, where she was deposited gently on a couch. After that the entity had only to visit the awarenesses in the coach and order them to forget what they’d seen, then rouse the carriage driver and send him on his way. He, too, was commanded to forget, both the woman who had been in his carriage and the place he’d taken her. Who needs Puredan when you have Spirit magic? quote:With that final chore completed the entity returned to the house, relocked the front door, closed the sitting room door, and— Well now I want to know what happens if they don't return in time. Spoilers–we'll never find out. quote:He tottered to a chair and dropped into it, aware that the others were doing the same, and tried to think about what had happened. STOP IT! quote:hadn’t been there on the couch, fast asleep, Lorand might have begun to wonder if he hadn’t been imagining things … and come to that, there was one last thing he had to do… Summary: Day 11 Meerk take Lorand and Tamrissa go to see Hat as a challenger to the Seated High in Earth magic. The whole contest is a sham. Lord Carmad Lestrin shows up to teach the protagonists how to Blend; the protagonists are very proud of themselves for hiding the signs of their own success. Tamrissa puts an end to all spying in the house by threatening to dob in anyone watching them since knowledge of Blending is highly classified. Another testing authority representative, Lord Twimmal, shows up to teach (badly) them to Blend. Jovvi finally figures out that they've all been drugged with Puredan to obey unknown orders. Meanwhile, Lord Idian shows up to teach the nobles how to Blend, but only Kambil and Delin are up. After Delin besmirches Rigos' reputation some more, Selendi, Homin and Bron finally show up. We get a THIRD lecture of "how to Blend" and Selendi and Bron can't reach Kambil. The three late arrivals are dismissed, then Kambil and Delin are told to have sex with Selendi ASAP, because that will somehow enable all of their magical connections to go through both Selendi AND Kambil. Kambil spends the afternoon messing around with everybody's heads (except for Delin). Delin has an assignation with a random MILF who is his source of intel for noble society gossip. The intel he gathers is related to his personal vendetta against Rigos which is utterly insignificant to the plot and delivered awkwardly via the worst sex scene in all eight books (which is really saying something). He ends the night by murdering Ollon Kapmar (the late Elfini's brother), except Delin doesn't remember the murder act, just the entire fantasy sequence leading up to it. By the end of Day 11, both groups have "Blended", though consistent with the "my protagonists are just so much more awesome than everybody else", Green's protagonists get it in one try while the nobles need a second attempt. Jovvi and Tamrissa realize polycule shenanigans need to occur for magical strengthening reasons. Tamrissa and Jovvi fail to seduce Lorand and Vallant respectively, because "bros before hos". Jovvi drags everybody into Lorand's room for a five-way conversation about group sex protocols which end up being all about soothing Vallant and Lorand's respective egos. Meanwhile, Rion sneaks off while the other four are busy drowning themselves in their sappy relationship drama to have his own sappy exchange with Naran, who needs a place to stay. They make arrangements for Naran to come back at night. After Naran leaves, Hallina shows up again. Rion tells her to go away, and she does, after the standard "you'll be sorry for this" parting speech. Everyone agrees to hide Naran. Meanwhile, Storn and Mirra turn up again. Tamrissa and Vallant also give them the "haha go away, we're untouchable because we're in the competitions" which cause Storn and Mirra to also go away after their "you'll be sorry!" speech. After yet another Meanwhile, Jovvi, Rion and Lorand engage in kindergarten level speculation about what they could be magically capable of. Upon Vallant and Tamrissa's return, Jovvi announces her own ultimatum of "I won't sleep with Vallant unless I get to sleep with Lorand afterwards". Cue polycule shenanigans, beginning with Tamrissa and Lorand, then Jovvi and Vallant. Afterwards, Tamrissa and Jovvi pretend feud their way to the bath house so they can have girl talk about Fire magic weird sex tricks and more discussion. Thanks to that discussion, Tamrissa has a nightmare. Everyone confronts Rion about the possibility that Naran could be a spy and he reluctantly agrees to let her be magically questioned. They Blend to form a magical entity (that has no physical body and a single pooled consciousness) which liberally uses Spirit magic to vet Naran's intentions and make eyewitnesses forget everything pertaining to Naran, before knocking everybody out with Earth magic and sneaking Naran into the house using Air and Water magic. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 44 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 23 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house MEALS ON-SCREEN: 28 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 20 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x2), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged (x3), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 31 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending) Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 91 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 49 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 16 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 27 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 74 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 51 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 59 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 31 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 12 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 8 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 9 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 10, including 1 rape scene (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: The trickiest thing to untangle here is the entity POV. It happens any time anybody Blends between now and most of Book 8. None of the entities have names. There is nothing distinctive about each entity's monologue. All of the entities have this detached feel to their POVs. It's not until Book 6 and Book 8 that we even see examples of Blendings where the individual minds in the Blending disagree. Different Blendings should feel distinct from each other. I don't know if I'd go so far to name them (because I hate naming things, and having to remember extra Blending names on top of characters seems like a bit much), but the Blendings themselves SHOULD feel like separate characters (and if you change the composition of the Blending, then it should essentially be a new character). The overuse of "the entity" bothers me as well. It kind of makes sense in the context of the story in that Blending is this forgotten knowledge, but going forward there certainly should be some sort of pronoun or whatever used to address Blendings in particular.
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# ? Sep 25, 2021 13:14 |
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quote:CHAPTER THIRTY-TWO These events JUST HAPPENED in the last chapter. Why do we need the "this just happened" and four other people chiming in to agree? At least since this experience is a shared one and they're all in the same room, this happens in 6 paragraphs instead of across 5 chapters. quote:I felt a twinge of nervousness over that, but before I could mention it someone else spoke up. Spoilers for Book 5 I want to know HOW Naran did not See this coming because we know that she can See a range of probabilities, not just probabilities that are likely, highly likely or certain and also sequel trilogy spoilers the concept of "flux" hasn't been introduced and the advanced nation of Blendings on the other continent shouldn't be blocking Naran yet...unless they were thinking that she would have run the hell away but then you can justify any of Green's plot holes in that way. quote:“Fear not, my love, we’ve merely brought you into the house,” Rion said with weak reassurance as she lifted his head to her lap. “I apologize for the method used, as we had no intention of behaving so. It merely … happened.” Spoilers for Book 5 I don't buy this explanation. Naran's Sight has been shown to be able to be responsive to split second decisions. quote:“That’s completely unimportant,” Naran said firmly, stroking his face and hair. “What isn’t unimportant is how you fare. Why do you lie here on the floor, looking pale as bleached linen? How have you been hurt?” TEA! Tea is the new cure-all. quote:As usual, two cups had been provided, so I quickly finished the tea I’d poured earlier, then filled both cups. It took very little effort to warm the tea enough to dissolve sugar in it, and then I carried one of the cups to Naran. Yes, yes, we know that heating a cup of tea is not hard work. I don't know why we're still going on about it in Book 3. quote:“Help him drink every drop of this while I give the other to Jovvi, and then we’ll do the same for Lorand and Vallant,” I told her. “If we don’t help them to get some strength back, we’ll have to carry them all to bed.” That's...not how you do introductions, Tamrissa. quote:Rather than ask any silly questions about who I was Uh. Naran's just been magically questioned without her consent or conscious knowledge, then knocked unconscious and magically handled like luggage while she was out and wakes up in a strange house to the sight of her lover looking like he's about to pass out. I think "who are you?" is a perfectly justified question to be asking. quote:and what I was talking about, she simply nodded in a businesslike way and took the cup. That left me free to go over to Jovvi, and by the time I’d helped her drink the tea, Naran had finished with Rion. It amused me that she’d taken the trouble to replace her lap with a pillow from the couch she’d awakened on, and Rion looked perfectly comfortable stretched out on the floor. that shows Naran is thoughtful and caring. Seriously, this is why I hate Tamrissa so much. quote:“I’m adding extra sugar to go along with the stimulant of the tea itself,” I explained as I joined Naran at the service. “The effects won’t last long, but hopefully long enough to get them moving. That's patronizing as all hell. quote:You’ll have to put that cup down, or the sudden heat might cause you to drop it.” Obligatory random backstory infodump by a character - check! quote:I smiled my thanks without correcting her, wondering if she hadn’t seen my master’s bracelet or simply didn’t know what it was. People with a Low talent in Fire magic usually had very little control, as control took practice and Low talents rarely bothered. I’d never burned anyone by accident in my life, but if I were the group’s protection, I might have to do it on purpose… That...sentence doesn't read like Green thinks it does. It actually could mean Tamrissa has burned people on purpose before. In an alternate Blendingverse, Tamrissa is the primary antagonist and she's psychotic. quote:“That’s Lorand over there,” I said with a gesture once the two cups of tea were ready. “Rion and Jovvi are already beginning to stir, so let’s get the last of them. I’m Tamrissa, by the way.” You should have STARTED with this! quote:She acknowledged that with a shy smile and a nod, obviously knowing I already knew her name, and started toward Lorand. I took my own cup over to Vallant, who opened his eyes when I sat down next to him. Green: "It's been too long since I made my self-insert Mary Sue protagonist look brilliant; time to have another character throw out a random compliment about a bleedingly obvious thing Tamrissa has done that anybody could have done" quote:I glanced over to see that she’d straightened where she sat, and the color had come back to her face. Rion was now climbing slowly to his feet, but only to move to the couch where Naran had been, where he sat heavily. He, too, looked better, and his smile improved him even more when Naran finished helping Lorand and went to sit beside him. And from this point forward, not only are we going to get five different versions of the same events across five chapters, we're also going to get five lines of dialogue about the same thing within those chapters. quote:“Then the fault was mine alone,” Jovvi said with a frown from her place to my left. “I assumed everyone felt the same, but apparently I’m the one who’s supposed to watch over our well-being. Even simply being a small part of what we were I could feel the strain, the growing demand that we stop and go back. Next time I’ll know enough to let the awareness spread, so … WE can know everything that’s happening.” Not as funny as Green thinks it is. But what do I know, humor is hard to write and I feel like this kind of gender roles based humor is very dated now. TBH, even when these books first came out, it was dated in my view, especially when you consider what Robert Jordan was trying to do with Wheel of Time (I mean, that's got issues too, but he was TRYING). quote:“Tamma and I aren’t the steel hard monsters he’s suggesting we are, but even more importantly we understand how you feel. We all are closer than any group you’ve ever known, but you have to remember that Rion is one of us. As important as you are to him, that’s almost as important as you are to us. We don’t regret the effort we put into bringing you inside, we just wish we’d been more cautious in the expending of it.” This pisses me off for all sorts of reasons, but the one that sticks out most on a reread is Book 5 spoilers Naran you can LITERALLY SEE THE FUTURE, how the hell do you seriously believe in this crap? and also this is a recurring thing that's going to be an entire subplot on its own in the sequel trilogy which was the most annoying subplot ever. Okay, maybe second most annoying, because Valissa drama is still the worst. quote:“We haven’t been told that yet,” Rion replied with a sigh of relief, pulling her close again. “For a moment of dread I was certain you meant to say you feared me, but happily we’ve been spared that. You simply believe I mean to toss you aside, and time will disprove that more thoroughly than words. But do please note that our winning is by no means guaranteed. Instead of joining us in the palace of the Five, you may well have to join us when we run for our lives.” Continued spoilers for Books 5 onwards Naran apparently has trouble Seeing things that she's emotionally invested in, that is the excuse Green gives. quote:“Now seems to be the time to send all of you back to where you belong,” I announced as I stood. “We have to be as rested as possible when our visitor—or visitors—arrive tomorrow—I mean, later today. Oh, you all know what I mean.” She is nowhere close to this. We JUST covered that at the beginning of the chapter. quote:“May I have the honor of walking you to your door, Dama Hafford?” quote:By now Rion and Naran were also up and moving, his arm around her shoulders as he pretended to lean on her. I say pretended, because she could no more have really supported him than Jovvi or I could have. Naran didn’t seem to know that, though, or maybe she had higher expectations of her physical strength. As they moved out into the hall, I heard her urge him in a whisper to lean on her as heavily as he needed to. These two are the best ship. quote:“That was nicely done,” Vallant said, and when I turned from closing the door behind those who had left, I saw that he’d managed to stand. “Now let’s help each other to your bed.” This is the best written section in a Tamrissa POV to date. There are things I can nitpick about the prose, but FINALLY, at last, we are feeling something for the character. Not enough to redeem her, but at least my eyes aren't glazing over. Wow. What a low bar. Summary: Day 11 Meerk take Lorand and Tamrissa go to see Hat as a challenger to the Seated High in Earth magic. The whole contest is a sham. Lord Carmad Lestrin shows up to teach the protagonists how to Blend; the protagonists are very proud of themselves for hiding the signs of their own success. Tamrissa puts an end to all spying in the house by threatening to dob in anyone watching them since knowledge of Blending is highly classified. Another testing authority representative, Lord Twimmal, shows up to teach (badly) them to Blend. Jovvi finally figures out that they've all been drugged with Puredan to obey unknown orders. Meanwhile, Lord Idian shows up to teach the nobles how to Blend, but only Kambil and Delin are up. After Delin besmirches Rigos' reputation some more, Selendi, Homin and Bron finally show up. We get a THIRD lecture of "how to Blend" and Selendi and Bron can't reach Kambil. The three late arrivals are dismissed, then Kambil and Delin are told to have sex with Selendi ASAP, because that will somehow enable all of their magical connections to go through both Selendi AND Kambil. Kambil spends the afternoon messing around with everybody's heads (except for Delin). Delin has an assignation with a random MILF who is his source of intel for noble society gossip. The intel he gathers is related to his personal vendetta against Rigos which is utterly insignificant to the plot and delivered awkwardly via the worst sex scene in all eight books (which is really saying something). He ends the night by murdering Ollon Kapmar (the late Elfini's brother), except Delin doesn't remember the murder act, just the entire fantasy sequence leading up to it. By the end of Day 11, both groups have "Blended", though consistent with the "my protagonists are just so much more awesome than everybody else", Green's protagonists get it in one try while the nobles need a second attempt. Jovvi and Tamrissa realize polycule shenanigans need to occur for magical strengthening reasons. Tamrissa and Jovvi fail to seduce Lorand and Vallant respectively, because "bros before hos". Jovvi drags everybody into Lorand's room for a five-way conversation about group sex protocols which end up being all about soothing Vallant and Lorand's respective egos. Meanwhile, Rion sneaks off while the other four are busy drowning themselves in their sappy relationship drama to have his own sappy exchange with Naran, who needs a place to stay. They make arrangements for Naran to come back at night. After Naran leaves, Hallina shows up again. Rion tells her to go away, and she does, after the standard "you'll be sorry for this" parting speech. Everyone agrees to hide Naran. Meanwhile, Storn and Mirra turn up again. Tamrissa and Vallant also give them the "haha go away, we're untouchable because we're in the competitions" which cause Storn and Mirra to also go away after their "you'll be sorry!" speech. After yet another Meanwhile, Jovvi, Rion and Lorand engage in kindergarten level speculation about what they could be magically capable of. Upon Vallant and Tamrissa's return, Jovvi announces her own ultimatum of "I won't sleep with Vallant unless I get to sleep with Lorand afterwards". Cue polycule shenanigans, beginning with Tamrissa and Lorand, then Jovvi and Vallant. Afterwards, Tamrissa and Jovvi pretend feud their way to the bath house so they can have girl talk about Fire magic weird sex tricks and more discussion. Thanks to that discussion, Tamrissa has a nightmare. Everyone confronts Rion about the possibility that Naran could be a spy and he reluctantly agrees to let her be magically questioned. They Blend to form a magical entity (that has no physical body and a single pooled consciousness) which liberally uses Spirit magic to vet Naran's intentions and make eyewitnesses forget everything pertaining to Naran, before knocking everybody out with Earth magic and sneaking Naran into the house using Air and Water magic. Their Blending effort brings everyone (except Tamrissa) to the brink of exhaustion. Everyone other than Vallant leaves in their romantic pairs. Unfortunately, Vallant passes out cold while Tamrissa's psyching herself up for sex. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 44 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 23 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house MEALS ON-SCREEN: 28 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 20 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x2), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged (x3), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 31 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending) Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 91 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 49 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 16 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 27 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 76 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 52 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 60 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 31 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 12 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 8 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 9 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 10, including 1 rape scene (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: I'm not a big romance reader, but I hear that good romance arcs are all about why two characters can't be together and how they overcome those obstacles. For Vallant/Tamrissa, Green's going for:
I'm not really sure on the root cause for #1 not working. I'm guessing it's the prose, which is somehow both bland AND annoying at the same time which makes me not engage with the characters. Neither of the characters are likeable, which isn't necessarily a non-starter, but their POVs aren't interesting to read! Despite all of the time Green's characters spend moping in their rooms or spacing out in coaches or reflecting on backstory, you rarely get deep into their thoughts.
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# ? Oct 1, 2021 14:31 |
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Leng posted:In an alternate Blendingverse, Tamrissa is the primary antagonist and she's psychotic. I'm pretty sure she's psychotic in the primary blendingverse, just hanging on to social convention by a thread. Her emotional responses are way, way out of proportion with what's actually going on around her most of the time, and she jumps to some fabulously paranoid conclusions. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 08:36 on Oct 6, 2021 |
# ? Oct 6, 2021 08:33 |
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Liquid Communism posted:I'm pretty sure she's psychotic in the primary blendingverse, just hanging on to social convention by a thread. Her emotional responses are way, way out of proportion with what's actually going on around her most of the time, and she jumps to some fabulously paranoid conclusions. True! So many data points to support this. That scene with the fireball in her garden back in Book One was all sorts of
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# ? Oct 6, 2021 20:06 |
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I always figured Green was going for the old romance archetype of a woman with a troubled and abusive past who will be entirely Fixed by Love... and accidentally being pretty true to life on Tamrissa being unstable.
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# ? Oct 7, 2021 09:03 |
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quote:CHAPTER THIRTY-THREE Green: "My protagonists are too busy sitting in their residence moping about their totally unnecessary relationship drama but I somehow need to get this plot critical information to them. I know! I'll have it LITERALLY dropped into their laps!" quote:He’d originally meant to send them the triggering phrase almost as soon as he’d discovered it, then he’d found himself with second thoughts. Spoilers for the end of this book: Kambil is behind all of Delin's flip flopping intentions. If Green was better at writing her characters, you'd be able to notice these red flags on a first read through, but unfortunately Delin's also insane, so you really can't tell until you're coming back on a reread. Sanderson did this so much better in Hero of Ages (Mistborn Era 1 #3) quote:“Well, good morning,” a voice came, and Delin looked up to see an almost unrecognizably bright-eyed Bron entering the room. “I expected to be first in for breakfast this morning, but you’ve beaten me to it. Even though you haven’t actually taken any breakfast yet.” Dun dun DUUUUUUUUUUUUN! More spoilers for the end of this book: Kambil really went all out last night. He finished lobotomizing and mind-slaving Bron, Selendi and Homin while Delin was off banging Relana, then had to go clean up the mess Delin was making with Ollon Kapmar I really wish we had more Kambil POVs. He's the most interesting antagonist in these books. quote:Bron, being circumspect? Obviously Delin had underestimated his leadership abilities; he now knew himself to be extraordinary, considering the changes in Bron, Homin, and Selendi. They were all following him and learning, so the least he could do was follow them for once. This is the most inane, banal crap I've ever read in a fantasy novel. Maybe. Isobel Carmody's The Red Queen, the conclusion to the entire Obernewtyn series, was also pretty bad. Really bad. So bad that I was PISSED by the end of it and couldn't believe it got published in that state. quote:Delin discovered a rather large appetite, probably stemming from the exertions of the night, and happily took care of it. The meal was punctuated with occasional light and pleasant conversation, and afterward they took additional tea in the large sitting room. Rather than despising the company of his groupmates as he had done in the past, Delin found himself actually enjoying the time. At long last they were a unified group, undoubtedly thanks to the Blending they’d managed. quote:It was nearly time for Lord Idian to arrive when Kambil appeared. The big man still looked faintly tired, but his smile of greeting was full of warmth. I think we're supposed to be feeling something for Delin here. Like he is supposed to be a tragic tortured antagonist who is an antagonist because he was abused as a child and couldn't help turning out super messed up. Green has not executed well on her theme. quote:No wonder the Advisors limited the number of people who knew how to Blend. If something like this ever became available to everyone, who would bother to fight for governmental positions and social standing? Spoilers for the sequel trilogy: it will still happen! Because people are people, except when they're perfect Blendingmates, because REAL Blendings all love each other and that love makes it so that they are perfect people forever and ever, amen quote:“Lords and Lady, Lord Idian,” a servant announced, and then Idian was nodding a greeting and making his way to the chair he’d used yesterday. Once he’d seated himself, he looked around at them. WHHHHHHY. We've already had this infodump. quote:The WE Delin was a part of wanted nothing to do with separation, but one part of the WE was extremely tired and shaky. Some of that unsteadiness came from him, Delin knew, and possibly even all of it. It was unthinkable that he might damage that glorious WE, so he withdrew instead back to the chill loneliness he’d known for all of his life. This mechanic will never matter again for the rest of the series. quote:“When you first begin to practice, you must keep the sessions short and be extremely vigilant,” Lord Idian continued. “Although you won’t believe it at the time, the judgment of a Blending cannot be relied on. Ideas will come to your joint minds, but to follow through on them will be to put yourselves in extreme danger. I will provide a list of proper exercises, which will more than prepare you for the competitions. And there’s one final thing.” Delin never remembers that Spirit magic is a thing in this world. quote:“There will come a time of temptation which you must resist at all cost,” Lord Idian pronounced as he continued to look from one to the other of them. “Once you become used to Blending, you will eventually feel the urge to … go even farther. What this farther point is I couldn’t tell you, nor can anyone else who has reached for it. It somehow … draws the members of a Blending in deep, and at some point refuses to release them again. They end up … unmoving and unfeeling, trapped in a vortex outside their bodies. If you ignore this advice, on your heads be it.” Green has gotten to the point where she doesn't even bother making up a fake rumor. quote:By that time Lord Idian was on his feet, but Kambil spoke up before the man might depart. MEETING TIME! quote:“The idea of that … vortex really frightens me,” Selendi said simply and openly. “It may be because I sensed … something beyond our Blended state, and was tempted for a moment to find out what it was.” FIVE FIVE FIVE FIVE FIVE. quote:“But believe it or not, the discovery isn’t what interests me most. I do happen to have enough strength left to know that Lord Idian was lying in his teeth.” The correct expression is "lying through his teeth". quote:Delin exclaimed aloud along with the others, his suspicions flaring again like a beacon. He’d known there was something wrong with what they were being told, he’d known it for certain! Though how would Idian even know anything? This stuff is supposed to be highly classified! Why would you send someone who knows they're lying to lie in front of a High with Spirit magic? And technically, Earth magic too, but Delin's unreliable so... quote:“I’ll bet Adriari’s group isn’t being told any fairy tales,” Bron growled, clearly verbalizing what all the rest of them thought. “They’re obviously trying to keep us limited in what we can do, to be certain we don’t become a real threat to their plans.” The whole farce doesn't make any sense on MULTIPLE LEVELS. The average person can't tell whether or not a group of people have actually Blended (i.e. an entity is formed) or if they're surface Blended only (apart from the speaking in sync). The average person ALSO wouldn't even be able to tell the difference if five Highs walked out together and competed as individuals on a team, or as a link group, because the entities don't do anything other than use the five talents like an individual uses them! GREEN WHY. quote:“Not managing to Blend wouldn’t have saved us,” Selendi said, as serious as Homin had been. “As long as we had the details about how to Blend buried somewhere in our heads, we’d still be a threat to the Advisors. Not to mention still being unwanted by our families. No, winning the competitions is still the only thing we can do.” FFS, TWICE IN A CHAPTER OMFG. quote:Delin marveled at their unity as they all left the sitting room together, that brand new warmth touching him again. Everything would have been perfect … if only Lord Ollon’s body had been found, and Rigos was arrested for the second and final time… Dun dun DUN! Summary: Day 12 During breakfast, Delin notices that Bron, Homin and Selendi are all acting suspiciously very unlike their actual selves while Kambil is uncharacteristically still asleep. Idian shows up to confirm Delin and co can actually Blend. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 44 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 23 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house MEALS ON-SCREEN: 29 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 20 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x2), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged (x3), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 31 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending) Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 94 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 49 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 16 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 28 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 77 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 52 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 61 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 31 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 12 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 8 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 10 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 10, including 1 rape scene (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: I maintain that we don't need antagonist POVs in these books because they add literally nothing of value. I still think the earlier idea of having a set of antagonist novels could be interesting, but you'd really have to be smart about it (like L.E. Modesitt and Will Wight were). The Modesitt books didn't actually have that much overlap beyond maybe 3-4 scenes but Will Wight's Elder Empire series did not do that well, because people were hella confused about which they should read first. I suspect what WOULD be a better idea would be to have two authors write the two different sides of the story using a pre-determined outline of events, but that takes a lot of work to coordinate. Leng fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Dec 8, 2021 |
# ? Oct 9, 2021 12:04 |
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I can't remember what if it was said what talents the Blending instructors have, but if that was not said, they could be Guild talents. It seems like they would have the knowledge and ability to detect Blendings.
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# ? Oct 10, 2021 03:51 |
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Maigius posted:I can't remember what if it was said what talents the Blending instructors have, but if that was not said, they could be Guild talents. It seems like they would have the knowledge and ability to detect Blendings. I don't think it's ever confirmed in-text what talents they have. The other thing that annoys me no end, is that by the end of Book 8, we discover that when you're a mature full Blending that has completely integrated on a permanent basis, you CAN see Blending entities but the books never go into what the world looks like from a Guild talent's perspective because Green so we still do not freaking know. If it were any other author, there's probably a canon answer in the notes, but since it's Green, I'm betting she never thought about it.
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# ? Oct 10, 2021 15:22 |
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quote:CHAPTER THIRTY-FOUR And now begins a new trend of having most random antagonist POVs open whilst they're in the middle of sex. quote:“Rot!” Eltrina snarled when the knock came again, this time more insistent. “They’re supposed to go away if I don’t answer the first time. I’m not going to dismiss whoever it is, I’m going to have them drawn and quartered!” Like every single other character who was vaguely interesting to begin with, Green has decided to turn Eltrina into a caricature as the books progress, instead of making her character more nuanced. quote:“Please excuse the disturbance, my lady, but Advisory representatives are downstairs demanding to see you,” Shorten, her husband’s majordomo, said as quickly as possible. “I tried to tell them that the hour was much too early, but they refused to be put off.” The word "mules" really threw me here. Technically that's just any kind of shoe with no back but I'm picturing Eltrina walking around in unflattering house slippers. quote:and went back to the door. Shorten stood waiting patiently just outside, and when she appeared he led the way downstairs to her husband’s study. Her husband wasn’t in it, of course, since he was currently away on a business trip, but the two strange men who failed to rise from where they sat reminded her strongly of him. Oh look! A glimpse of the Eltrina that could have been! quote:“Getting straight to the point suits me as well,” Lord Anglard agreed without showing anything even vaguely resembling a smile. “You began as the assistant of Lord Ollon Kapmar, became his mistress in a very short time, then took over his responsibilities when he … suffered a personal tragedy. When was the last time you lay with him? Was that also the last time you recall speaking to him?” FINALLY! After pages and pages and pages of mind numbingly boring developments, we see the Blendingverse equialent of detectives show up. quote:“What are you talking about?” Eltrina demanded wildly when Anglard nodded and began to gather up his papers. “What’s going on here?” Who else? quote:* * * Trying too hard, Green. quote:“Pardon the intrusion, gentles!” a voice said rather loudly, as though it had tried to say the same before. Delin joined the others in turning to the doorway, and was startled to see Lord Idian behind the almost-shouting servant. If only we'd seen any evidence of Bron as somebody capable of feeling contrition. quote:His words ended abruptly, but Delin almost didn’t notice. A great chill had formed inside him, centering around a suddenly growing fear. He’d left traces to prove that Rigos had killed Ollon, but with Rigos dead first, those traces would prove something else entirely… Nope. Don't buy any of this. quote:“Here’s that list of exercises I promised you,” he said quietly, removing a folded sheet of paper from his coat and placing the sheet on a nearby table. “You won’t feel much like practicing for a while, but when you do, follow the instructions carefully. I’ll see all of you again tomorrow.” I have a sneaking suspicion Green doesn't know how to write emotional scenes. quote:* * * There you go, Idian has Spirit magic; so he should have been picking up everything from Delin the whole time! quote:“You say that only because you haven’t yet come in contact with High talents, my friend,” Idian rejoined dryly. “You and I are strong Middles, but these people soar way above us. I’ve been able to feel the mountain of strength inside Kambil since the first moment I entered that residence, and the rest of them aren’t that far—if at all—behind.” I call BS. This is Green's way of covering up her plotholes. I don't mind magic systems where difference in magical power makes the magically powerful basically immune to magical attacks/influence from the magically weak, but the system needs to at least be coherent. quote:“So what has our very clever strategy accomplished?” Anglard demanded. “This is the last of the four residences, and we’re no closer to an answer than we were. I’ve half a mind to revisit each of them personally, only with Puredan rather than you as my companion.” I'm not seeing how Anglard's suggestion is incompatible with competing. quote:“Every member of her group can be accounted for at an all-night party,” Anglard replied, gesturing a dismissal. “They were all in plain view at the time Ollon was killed, especially her Earth magic member. No, it has to be one of these other four, who won’t be protected by having won the Fivefold Throne. How long must I wait?” This...this is not how you organize critically important national events that pose massive logistical challenges! quote:“And as soon as the last of it is over, I can have the last of them,” Anglard said with satisfaction. “But the first group should be available rather quickly. Will that be a matter of chance, or has everything been worked out?” Yes, yes, we get it, the competitions are fixed, thanks Green for arbitrarily making a competent character incompetent just so you can shoehorn in yet another pointed reminder of the dozens of infodumps about the competitions being fixed. Summary: Day 12 During breakfast, Delin notices that Bron, Homin and Selendi are all acting suspiciously very unlike their actual selves while Kambil is uncharacteristically still asleep. Idian shows up to confirm Delin and co can actually Blend. Meanwhile, Blendingverse detectives are finally on the case of Ollon's murder: first, Eltrina is cleared and confirmed as Ollon's replacement, then Idian returns to break the news that Rigos committed suicide prior to Ollon's death. The detectives suspect Delin but aren't strong enough to confirm it's him. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 46 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 24 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house MEALS ON-SCREEN: 29 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 21 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged (x3), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 31 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending) Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 95 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 49 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 16 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 28 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 78 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 52 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 61 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 31 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 12 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 8 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 10 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 11, including 1 rape scene (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: Still think it would have been better to follow the team of Blendingverse detectives instead of the antagonist Blending. It would have been a good way to introduce everybody relevant to the competitions, the politics of the nobility and the various motives explicitly, which is about Green's skill level.
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# ? Oct 18, 2021 20:27 |
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We're about to read the STUPIDEST conflict ever.quote:CHAPTER THIRTY-FIVE And from this point onwards, Jovvi will no longer even have any semblance of any compunctions about messing with other people's heads. quote:“That’s nice,” Tamma answered, walking past Jovvi to the buffet without saying anything else. It was as though Jovvi had announced that the day would be sunny and pleasant, not at all the reaction Tamma should have given. Green is so inconsistent with how Spirit magic works. Jovvi should not need to reach out with her ability to sense Tamrissa's emotions. quote:“You sounded as though you didn’t hear a word I said.” You seriously are. quote:“You’re saying the proper words, but you don’t sound convinced,” Jovvi pointed out, trying not to share the heavy sense of frustration coming from Tamma. “If you look at this right, it’s really kind of funny…” She really doesn't. quote:Can we talk about something else?” this is why Rion is the best, super weird euphemism not withstanding. quote:The clatter of Tamma’s eating utensils hitting her plate interrupted Rion, and Jovvi felt like groaning. This was not only getting out of hand, it was progressing from ridiculous to absurd. This entire subplot has been absurd for a while. quote:“Have I said something wrong?” Rion asked diffidently from where he stood at the buffet. “If I’ve distressed you ladies in any way—” Where was the proofreader? quote:“It’s just that Tamma has gotten this really silly idea—” Pretty sure it IS actually shrill. quote:“Rion managed to stay awake, so why is it silly for me to have expected Vallant to do the same? Obviously Rion cares more about Naran than Vallant does about me, and that vague someone was perfectly right. Vallant and I just aren’t meant to be together.” OMFG. quote:Jovvi could feel Tamma’s need to hurry out of the room, but she must have remembered that Vallant might still be in her apartment. So instead of running she began to eat again, deliberately seeing to at least one of her body’s hungers. Someone should have explained to Tamrissa that morning sex is a thing. But maybe none of them actually know this is a thing, because except for the Rion/Tamrissa encounter way back when, every single sexual encounter between the protagonists across ALL EIGHT BOOKS happens at night. I'm serious. quote:“I’m considering taking a vow of silence,” Rion murmured as he sat in his place at the table to Jovvi’s right. “A pity I didn’t consider it earlier.” Wait until you guys find out the solution quote:That was when Lorand walked in, giving Jovvi a wry smile on his way to the buffet. Jovvi’s first urge was to tell him that it was all right to speak freely, but right now speaking freely could prove to be more dangerous and damaging than when half the servants were listening to every word. It was hard to imagine anything that might make Tamma feel worse, but Jovvi was confident that somehow someone would manage it. Pretty sure we all love Rion more than any of you. He's the only one who does anything. quote:Rion returned to the table first, and a pair of moments later Lorand took his place to Tamma’s left. Tamma had apparently missed seeing Rion speaking to him, as she turned to him after he was seated. Tamrissa. We're way off the charts on the passive-aggressiveness meter. quote:Once again she went back to eating, and when Lorand looked at Jovvi and parted his lips, Jovvi quickly shook her head. Tamma was working herself deeper and deeper into despondence, the hatred she’d spoken of partially self-hatred. Her reactions to what had happened—or, more accurately, to what hadn’t happened—were completely out of proportion to the importance of the incident, You don't say! quote:but there might be a reason for that. Yes. It's because Green doesn't know how else to incorporate conflict into her story. quote:She was a woman who had been taught not to hope, and she’d managed to overcome that harsh and heartless lesson. If she’d gotten to the point of hoping too hard, her disappointment would certainly be completely out of proportion to what others considered normal. If only she could be shown how farcical it really was… You guys realize it's not just this one thing, right? Tamrissa has a talent for making mountains out of grains of sand. quote:“Oh, oh,” Rion murmured, and Jovvi looked up to see Vallant in the doorway. His arrival was hardly unexpected, so for an instant she wondered at Rion’s comment—until she realized that Vallant was grinning. Very obviously he saw how funny the situation was, which made Jovvi groan all over again. This is maybe the only time Vallant has been cool. quote:“You really will have to tell Vallant how upset you are,” Jovvi said to Tamma as fast as she could get the words out. “He probably thinks the joke’s on him, and doesn’t realize that you don’t consider it a joke.” It's a pretty stupid idea, but Tamrissa's being pretty stupid, so it's appropriate. quote:Things were getting worse by the minute, and if Tamma’s growing annoyance progressed to full anger… Jovvi didn’t even want to think about it. Vallant's missed his calling in the theatre! quote:Jovvi felt Lorand and Rion fighting to control their expressions, just as she was having to do with her own. quote:Vallant’s performance had been marvelous, and Tamma sat staring down at her plate in utter confusion. The temptation was there to help Tamma toward full belief, but Jovvi firmly resisted it. Meddling now with anything but words could only make things worse instead of better. This is the only time we'll ever see someone with Spirit magic think this. quote:“It never occurred to me that the testing authority could or would do something like that, but it sounds like them,” Jovvi mused instead. “I don’t know how they’d accomplish it, but why they’d bother is much easier. Anything they can do to disrupt us is completely to their benefit.” There will be exactly ONE instance of these guys figuring out wards (it's either the next book or Book 5), and after that, wards (not that Green calls it that) will only come up again in Book 8. quote:Jovvi nodded with a smile, more than aware of the fact that Rion had kept quiet throughout all of the previous conversations. He’d apparently made good on his decision to take a vow of silence, which was really very wise of him. But it's more fun when Rion goes around saying whatever comes into his head! quote:And then, suddenly, Tamma rose from the table and left the dining room without a word. Jovvi followed her with her mind until Tamma reached her apartment, and then she released the line with a sigh. Uh, you did. You could have NOT LIED with a ridiculous story. But, since Vallant/Tamrissa sex is important for plot reasons, we're here. quote:“My fallin’ asleep this mornin’ was actually her fault, for stayin’ in the facility so long. I waited and waited, fightin’ to stay awake, then finally lost the fight. But if I’d pointed that out, she would have accused me of makin’ excuses.” I read that as "Vallant lay in bed waiting for Tamrissa to come out of the ensuite". He probably would have been better off conjuring some ice spikes and stabbing himself with them, though I guess there would be some very awkward questions if Tamrissa walks out to see that. quote:“And she probably would have dismissed my saying that Naran didn’t leave my side,” Rion put in glumly. “I really do owe you an apology, Vallant, for having such a big mouth. I had no idea why discussing one’s pleasure was a subject to be avoided in polite conversation, but now I believe I’ve learned the reason.” Write this scene instead! It would be hilarious and entirely appropriate for the poly setup. quote:“I would end feeling inadequate and also contemplating murder,” Rion finished with a sigh. Uh, who are you and what did you do with Rion? Because the real Rion would have been like, oh, that's a cool trick, please teach me how to do that by demonstrating on Naran while I watch and take careful notes. And then please watch me try it afterwards to make sure I did it right. (answer: Green, because Green has problems with letting her characters be authentic to themselves) quote:“If it weren’t too late, I believe I would seriously consider living a solitary existence again. There’s so much to know when one associates with other people.” How do we solve our crippling personal problems? With magic! Because we're literal magical wizards! quote:except for the awareness that I might be stretching things too far. How about you, Rion? Did you notice anything the rest of us missed?” There's not really all that much remaining in the scheme of things. quote:I’ll have to—Wait, there’s someone coming.” This chapter was 3306 words long by the way. It should have been half that length. Summary: Day 12 During breakfast, Delin notices that Bron, Homin and Selendi are all acting suspiciously very unlike their actual selves while Kambil is uncharacteristically still asleep. Idian shows up to confirm Delin and co can actually Blend. Meanwhile, Blendingverse detectives are finally on the case of Ollon's murder: first, Eltrina is cleared and confirmed as Ollon's replacement, then Idian returns to break the news that Rigos committed suicide prior to Ollon's death. The detectives suspect Delin but aren't strong enough to confirm it's him. Thanks to Tamrissa being an incredible drama queen about Vallant passing out from exhaustion, Vallant makes up a ridiculous story about the testing authority putting him to sleep. Jovvi, Lorand and Rion go along with it because Vallant and Tamrissa need to get it on for Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 46 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 24 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house MEALS ON-SCREEN: 30 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 22 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 31 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending) Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 95 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 49 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 16 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 29 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 79 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 53 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 61 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 31 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 12 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 11 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 11, including 1 rape scene (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: Vallant and Tamrissa are the worst ship. Maybe it's just because I hate on/off relationships as I generally find them to be stupid. Anybody got recommendations for books where you've seen this done well?
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 08:26 |
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Just a heads up that I'll be taking a 1 month break after next week's chapter, because NaNoWriMo is approaching again! This year's attempt was a coin toss between continuing the Let's Rewrite or writing some original fiction. My writing group convinced me I should take a crack at writing my own stuff so that is the current plan. The hope is to finish writing the rough draft by 30 November 2021, at which point I'll need to let it sit before I go back to do a second pass. At that point, I may either do a second pass through my first draft of the first book in the Let's Rewrite or start the second book of the rewrite - I'll see how I feel then! Current schedule looks something like this: 31/10: Chapter 36 1-30/11: Let's Read on break 1/12: Let's Read resumes from Chapter 37 (49 chapters in Book 3, so we should finish Book 3 some time in late February/early March 2022)
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# ? Oct 25, 2021 08:34 |
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quote:CHAPTER THIRTY-SIX Stop pretending you care. There honestly wasn't anything stopping you. And if you had no idea how, then you're not very bright. quote:Hat could have been anywhere in the city— Subtext is hard to do and I am bad at it, but this is not even more text. This is like overt text. quote:Meerk turned and began to leave, so Lorand left the servant to close the door and returned to the dining room. Jovvi, Rion, and Vallant were still at the table, so he reclaimed his seat and reached for the pitcher of tea. STOP THIS. I hate this endless parade of random clues getting dropped on the protagonists and instead of doing anything about any of it, they just sit there and go "oh noes, we can't do anything because the author doesn't want us to do anything". quote:“Pardon the intrusion, gentles, but you have another caller,” that same servant announced from the doorway. “This one, however, is the lord from the testing authority, and he requests the presence of all of you. Dama Domon has already been sent for, and the lord awaits you in the library.” This is a stupid plan. I'm in the middle of plotting my NaNoWriMo attempt for this year, and you're supposed to iterate through try/fail cycles. Instead of opting to go for the "try" part, Green's protagonists always opt to "not try" instead. quote:“And we better remember to check for those marks when we do touch him,” Lorand said, forcing back his worry about Hat. Until he reached a position where he might do something… “If we can find them first, it might be possible to disguise them in some way. But what about Tamrissa? Does she know what we intend to do?” But whhhhy? I literally don't understand the reason behind the pretense here. The nobility haven't been able to do anything to anybody. quote:“We’ve discussed the matter among us, and we’ve decided to put personal animosities aside so that we can Blend.” Seriously. None of them are the nice people Green likes to pretend they are. quote:“Oh, by the way,” Twimmal added negligently, “Air and Water should be standing more to either side of Spirit. I thought there was something wrong with your formation yesterday, but I was simply too distressed to realize what.” Spoilers this doesn't matter quote:But they weren’t there to play the what-if game, so Lorand opened himself to the power and simply waited for Jovvi’s touch. When it came he returned it, and then all of them were Blended again. That same sense of excitement and delight also returned, as well as a strong sense that the world was finally right again. He breathed out his satisfaction while at the same time keeping himself from sinking more deeply into the meld, and Twimmal looked up sharply. Not this lecture again. quote:*Let’s find out what he’s talking about,* the Vallant portion of their Blending suggested, which made good sense. They would certainly be Blending again later, and right now they needed to know what Twimmal could tell them. Lorand withdrew himself from the meld just as the others did the same, and then he also joined them in finding places to sit where they could all see Twimmal easily. Suuuuuuure. It's not because the author has no idea how to plot at all. quote:“I have no trouble believing it,” Rion commented dryly. “The more I see of his sort, the happier I am that I no longer need to associate with them. But what exactly do we know?” Oh look, Delin's letter has arrived with the plot critical information that our protagonists are too lazy to seek out themselves! quote:“Thank you,” Jovvi said, taking the envelope. The servant bowed again as she opened it and took out its contents, and he really was a good servant. By the time she looked up from the page, he had already left the room. Well then, isn't it convenient about Naran? Summary: Day 12 During breakfast, Delin notices that Bron, Homin and Selendi are all acting suspiciously very unlike their actual selves while Kambil is uncharacteristically still asleep. Idian shows up to confirm Delin and co can actually Blend. Meanwhile, Blendingverse detectives are finally on the case of Ollon's murder: first, Eltrina is cleared and confirmed as Ollon's replacement, then Idian returns to break the news that Rigos committed suicide prior to Ollon's death. The detectives suspect Delin but aren't strong enough to confirm it's him. Thanks to Tamrissa being an incredible drama queen about Vallant passing out from exhaustion, Vallant makes up a ridiculous story about the testing authority putting him to sleep. Jovvi, Lorand and Rion go along with it because Vallant and Tamrissa need to get it on for Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 46 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 24 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house MEALS ON-SCREEN: 30 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 22 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 31 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending) Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 95 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 49 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 16 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 30 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 79 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 53 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 62 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 31 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 12 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 11 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 11, including 1 rape scene (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: Make the protagonists try something. Anything! Like maybe try Blending, interrogate Twimmal, figure out who he was reporting to, locate and interrogate THAT person and you know...been proactive about this whole situation. Or attempt escape, now that you can Blend and Jovvi can mind control people. Or anything. Because these guys have literally just obtained the state secret of being super massively overpowered. Who's really going to stop them at this point? We know the Seated Blending are total fakes. This is why Books 1-3 are so bad. We're almost to the end though. Books 4-5 will get better because they're out there, doing stuff.
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# ? Oct 30, 2021 01:49 |
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LET'S READ GOING ON BREAK! I'm gonna be spending the next month attempting to write a 75,000 word original fiction. We'll pick up Chapter 37 again in December. See you guys then!
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# ? Oct 30, 2021 01:54 |
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Enjoy your break! I'd forgotten just how much stupid Tamrissa/Vallant drama there is in these books. I know by the time I was about here, I was skipping pages to avoid it
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 23:43 |
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I'm entirely sure that by this point my eyes just glazed over every time the two interacted, and I came out of the fugue state two pages later waiting for Rion to do something interesting.
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# ? Nov 8, 2021 04:00 |
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We're back! Sorry for the delay guys, NaNoWriMo has done a real number on me this time. Coming back to the Let's Read is almost kind of a relief, because I can look at some terrible writing that isn't my own and get some solace that despite the fact that my writing is awful awful awful, it is still better than whatever is going on here:quote:CHAPTER THIRTY-SEVEN I would like to know how many different ways can one demand "What?" but characterization requires work and Green does not like to do any work in her prose. quote:“Yes, I know exactly how you feel because I feel the same,” Jovvi threw into the cauldron of comments, repeating it two or three times until they actually heard the words. This is such a weird visual and I have no idea why Green thought it was appropriate for a scene where the protagonists have just discovered that they've been secretly brainwashed and programmed. quote:“I have no idea who sent this because it isn’t signed, and it isn’t possible to know if it’s a trick until we try it. But we can’t try it until we have someone here we can trust.” And we immediately jump over any sort of character reaction to unpack the massive revelation that THEY'VE ALL BEEN SECRETLY BRAINWASHED to "let's get rid of it". Like, I know my normal complaint is that Green has too much introspection and not enough plot, but come on. This is kind of a big deal. It's a massive betrayal of trust and a pivotal moment in the whole story, setting into motion the rest of the series. Yet instead of giving this moment the weight it deserves, Green just...skips over it with the equivalent of: Everyone - We are very angry! Jovvi - I don't know who sent this letter, it could be anybody Everyone - We have now established that we are very angry because we say that we are angry so let's just get rid of this thing quote:“I wonder if it’s possible to resist a command like that when we’re Blended,” Lorand commented while everyone thought about Rion’s offer. “It’s too bad we can’t afford to do research on the point … but I agree with Rion. Right now Naran is the only one we can be sure of.” Like, it's been a month for this Let's Read, so we could be forgiven for not remembering but for you guys? This was last night! You collapsed due to exhaustion, not brain damage. How do you "almost forget" the MAIN THING you did last night? quote:“That settles it, then,” Rion said with a satisfied smile as he rose. “I’ll caution Naran to be alert in case there’s a trap of some sort involved, but if there isn’t I’ll return a free man in just a few minutes.” Not-spoilers, because you know Green's style by now: there will be no traps involved and this latest hiccup will not cause them any sort of problems whatsoever, thus removing the suspense from the rest of the series. quote:“If it is the keyin’ phrase, see if she can order you to resist somethin’ like this in the future,” Vallant suggested as Jovvi handed Rion the letter. “It may not work, but it shouldn’t hurt to try.” Also not-spoilers: this spur of the moment idea will absolutely work, because our protagonists are super smart and the antagonists are super dumb and of course never thought of this possible scenario and therefore didn't build any failsafes into their brainwashing program. quote:“That’s an excellent idea,” Rion said as he glanced through the letter. “And in case anyone is interested, I would guess that this fascinating missive comes from a member of the nobility. Not only is the paper above average in quality, the phrasing used in the letter itself suggests an upper class education. How does Jovvi, the most popular courtesan in Rincammon (and arguably in the entire northern part of the Empire), not recognize this letter as being written by a noble? Are we seriously to believe that she doesn't count anyone from the nobility amongst her presumably numerous and insanely wealthy patrons? Answer: Green: "Rion hasn't done anything awesome in a while, so I guess it's his turn to have a moment of brilliance, that only serves to make Jovvi look dumb." quote:That causes me to be suspicious in an automatic fashion, but it also makes inarguable sense. Who better than a member of the nobility to manage access to information of this sort?” Hamfisted foreshadowing! quote:“Maybe it was done by Eltrina Razas,” Lorand countered after making a small sound of ridicule. “She’s suddenly discovered that she’s fallen madly in love with one of us, and so wants to make sure that her beloved wins the competitions.” Even more hamfisted foreshadowing! quote:“And maybe this was done for someone else’s benefit rather than ours,” Jovvi said, the idea coming rather suddenly. My headcanon is now that Book 8 spoilers Drees Allovin (and whoever else is watching over the Chosen from the advanced nation of full Blendings over on the other continent) has been hanging around as a spy in the residence and watching these idiots fumble around doing nothing, so they have to resort to strategic use of Spirit magic to feed them ideas on what to do next. quote:“The only way that would make sense is if someone knows we’re scheduled to face the chosen noble Blending first, and wants us to get rid of them for them. Then the way would be clear for them to become the chosen Blending, without having to defeat the others themselves.” This is such a stupid, lazy way of characterizing Fire magic. Why doesn't this happen with any other talent? I'm guessing the answer is because Fire magic is probably the most showy and least useful of all the elemental talents but it is kind of unfair that Vallant's eyes don't flood and turn blue whenever he gets super mad (or is that because Real Men don't cry?). quote:“How we’re associating with our Air magic member is another story, though, since we all go out of our way to avoid him. If that’s all we have to worry about we’ll do fine, but I really don’t trust those people. They could be planning something we haven’t thought of.” So you know what you guys should do? You guys should BLEND and then send your entity all over the city to track this person down right now and get more information! But you're not gonna do it, because Green. quote:“That’s not in the least surprising,” Rion said while Jovvi—and the others—made sounds of incredulous disbelief. “The noble mind set dismisses everyone it considers beneath it, and commoners certainly fall into that category. Why bother to do more than exclude a signature, when it’s lower life forms one is dealing with?” And now we resume the plot after a 1160 word recap for anyone who has been reading this, one chapter at a time, in the reception area of a doctor's office while they're waiting to be called in for their annual check up. quote:Rion nodded with determination and headed for the door, and once he was gone Jovvi sat back with a sigh. As if things weren’t complicated enough, they now had to wonder if there weren’t some hidden trap in the information provided. They ought to have the answer to that fairly quickly, but considering all the negative ways they might get it… quote:“… been thinking about the situation, and I’ve made up my mind,” Jovvi suddenly heard Tamma say, and looked up to see that she spoke to Vallant. “You and I still have to lie together in order to make the Blending as strong as possible, but that will be as far as it goes. Becoming involved with someone leads to nothing but trouble, so I’ve decided not to do it.” You two. You two are the WORST. quote:“And I refuse to change my mind,” Tamma told him calmly, but with growing anger beneath. “What do you imagine you can do about it?” Pretty sure Green was going for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W6D4Mr0ihE and then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmM3VzGGWkY And you guys will see just how short Green fell in her execution in about 3 chapters. quote:“Yes, I do think we will,” Tamma murmured, still clearly determined. But beneath the determination Jovvi could detect … something that didn’t quite fit. Hopefully it would be enough to keep real trouble from developing, Jovvi thought as she exchanged a worried glance with Lorand. If it wasn’t… Please. Both of these things would be great, and then maybe we could have the books follow a bunch of protagonists who, you know, are actually interesting and do stuff. quote:* * * He won't. quote:but right now there’s something I must ask of you.” Green: "It's been a while since I've had the theme stated, so" quote:“By using the keying phrase to be found in this letter,” Rion replied, handing her the folded sheets of paper. “None of us can so much as read the words without being affected, but the same won’t be true of you. Once the phrase has me in its power, you’re to order me not to respond to it ever again, nor to anything of the same sort. Then you must attempt to return me to normal.” Green's protagonists debating whether or not they should do something obvious: - "Let's agonize over this decision for weeks via multiple meetings in the bathhouse and/or coach rides!" Green's protagonists debating whether or not they should do something fraught with danger: - "Let's just jump right in and not bother doing any research!" quote:“Unfortunately, that’s perfectly true,” Naran murmured, her thoughts clearly turned inward. “They might well have planned for the possibility of your learning the key, and have done something to negate that accomplishment. Let me think for a moment…” FORESHADOWING! quote:Rion failed to see what there was to think about, but still made no attempt to interrupt. Naran would always have whatever was in his power to provide, so giving a handful or two of minutes was hardly to be considered a burden. He would, in truth, have waited as long as necessary, but after no more than a rather long moment, Naran smiled again. There is Something Significant about Naran. Hint hint. HINT HINT HINT HINT HINT. quote:The experiment had to be attempted in any event, so her lack of distress could only be a benefit. She pulled him to a couch where they both sat down, and then she released his hand so that she might open and read the letter. Because Rion is a protagonist and therefore can't be into BDSM stuff, which is unequivocally something only the antagonists are into. quote:Rion began to chuckle, but the next instant he seemed to have forgotten what it was that he’d found amusing. And Naran simply sat there looking at him, which wasn’t the way things were supposed to have gone. Rion: "I'm not just angry now, I'm really very angry. Can you see how angry I am?" quote:“Allow me to prove the matter to you,” Naran said with gentle understanding as she took his hand. “The keying phrase is, ‘Now is the time for all commoners to come to the aid of the empire.’ ” Or...you could have just given him the letter? quote:“Commoners indeed,” Rion growled, close to being furious. “Common is as common does, which makes them as common as dirt. They—Wait a moment. I not only heard that, I didn’t react to it! It did work!” Look at that! All of the protagonists are terrible people. It's OK to take free will away from people, so long as it's the protagonists doing it! Like I get that a character's views aren't always the same as an author's views, but when you have characters as flat as Green's who don't EVER show any growth AND they're presented as the perfect ideals in her fantasy world...I'm sorry, but my only conclusion is that this is the author's views we are dealing with here. quote:“And willingly,” he reminded her with a grin, then shared a kiss with the woman who meant the world to him. “I must tell the others that the danger is past, or will be once we have you command them as well. I’ll return in just a few moments.” This is another common thing that happens throughout all of the books. It is the most unsubtle way of demonstrating how fair-minded the protagonists are, as opposed to the selfish credit hogging antagonists. quote:He strode to the library and walked right in, but slowed at the sight of the others clustered in the middle of the room, all of them looking at something which Jovvi held. Jovvi is now the official correspondence opener for the group. This thing about Jovvi being the "face" of the group will continue all the way to the end of the next series. quote:The girl Warla stood not far from them, and Warla’s face, at least, shone with delighted excitement. "Us" is a weird thing for Warla to be saying here. quote:“What is it?” Rion asked, aware of a much different reaction than delight coming from the others. And "sir" is even weirder, considering that the normal term of address is "Dom" for a common born man. quote:However enthusiastic the girl was, Rion’s feelings were more like those of his Blendingmates—which undoubtedly included a queasiness in the pit of the stomach. Without any prior warning, the competitions were scheduled to begin less than seven full days from that very moment. Which is still a giant plothole in this entire thing. Summary: Day 12 During breakfast, Delin notices that Bron, Homin and Selendi are all acting suspiciously very unlike their actual selves while Kambil is uncharacteristically still asleep. Idian shows up to confirm Delin and co can actually Blend. Meanwhile, Blendingverse detectives are finally on the case of Ollon's murder: first, Eltrina is cleared and confirmed as Ollon's replacement, then Idian returns to break the news that Rigos committed suicide prior to Ollon's death. The detectives suspect Delin but aren't strong enough to confirm it's him. Thanks to Tamrissa being an incredible drama queen about Vallant passing out from exhaustion, Vallant makes up a ridiculous story about the testing authority putting him to sleep. Jovvi, Lorand and Rion go along with it because Vallant and Tamrissa need to get it on for Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 46 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 24 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house MEALS ON-SCREEN: 30 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 22 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 31 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending) Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 95 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 49 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 16 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 30 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 79 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 53 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 62 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 32 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 12 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 12 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 11, including 1 rape scene (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: If the mind control thing is a thing, it needs to be an entire plotline on its own, not just handwaved like this! This is the most dissatisfying solution to the entire thing, because there was all this massive build up to "oh no, the testing authority is evil and the entire power regime has been propped up by corrupt means via mass mind control" and it turns out that all you needed to do to get around it was to be better at programming than whoever did the brainwashing in the first place. So much of this book's themes were supposed to have been about control: when is it good, when is it bad, who should have control, etc—but at the first opportunity to actually explore this subject, we just get "control is bad, except when you have good people in control, and then it's totally ok because the people in control are good". I am going to try and do a better job than this when I get around to writing Book...4 of my original fiction. Which is a long way away, considering that I did not finish writing Book 1 during NaNoWriMo, but hopefully it will happen before we finish this entire Let's Read.
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Sorry again for the delay! Trying to get everything wrapped up prior to the end of the year has been kind of insane.quote:CHAPTER THIRTY-EIGHT This is a horrific construction of a sentence. So is Delin satisfied or not? I have to read it as not, because he's only happy with their Blending progress. quote:Leaving behind the single entity they became when Blended was always difficult, forcing him, as it did, to return to his solitary, limited existence. I wish Green had made much more of the addictiveness of Blending. But this is pretty much the last time we'll see this mentioned, until Green introduces a bunch of other characters who are new to Blending, at which point everybody will suddenly remember this is a thing. quote:The one thing it didn’t seem possible to do when Blended was drink a cup of tea, something Delin suddenly felt a great need for. Oh FFS. And I say this as somebody who survives on tea. quote:“That was really very good,” Kambil said as Delin headed for the tea service. “We’re getting faster and stronger every time we practice, and there’s still four days left before the first of the competitions. By the time the big day arrives, we should be completely ready.” Note the complete lack of specifics as to what, exactly, they can do. quote:“I still say they should have given us more warning about that,” Bron put in, not for the first time. “Finding out about it only when the placards came out telling everyone… They really don’t give a drat about us. If one of us had panicked…” Green seriously can't make up her mind here about which way to go. If you can sense how strong someone is just by being in contact with the power at the same time, and these nobles all move in the same circles, how the hell do none of them know how strong anybody is, relative to each other? This would have been a far more interesting story from Adriari's POV. "Help, we're total frauds who have been chosen to be the next puppets on the Fivefold Throne! But I want to find a way to win, legitimately, anyway, against foes who are far more powerful than we are!" quote:The others made sounds of agreement, and Delin moved out of the way with his tea so that Bron might reach the service—and so that Delin might examine his groupmates. The changes in them still amazed him, despite the fact that nothing less should have been expected to develop from his leadership. They’d all become able human beings, and it was no longer necessary to cater to Bron’s ego by pretending he was their leader. The only one Delin still had some small reservations about was Kambil… I resent this character assassination of Delin. The way Green continually builds up characters in their introductions and then does a complete 180 on them subsequently is infuriating. quote:“I’ve been thinking about this,” Kambil now announced from where he still stood in the middle of the room, “and I’ve decided that we simply don’t know as much as we should. Some of the things we’ve learned to do we discovered by accident, a procedure we can’t continue to rely on. If our opponents have one more lucky accident than we do, they could conceivably defeat us.” Seriously. Delin WAS set up to be a smart person. Just look at the whiny idiot he's been turned into. quote:“Which is why we now need to look elsewhere, but not in a file,” Kambil fretted, looking down at the carpeting. “We need the kind of information no one will want written down, so it will be only something people know. What I can’t figure out is who is the most likely person to know it.” Spoilers: all the important stuff is written down quote:“My dear friend, the answer to that couldn’t possibly be more obvious,” Delin told him with a chuckle, suddenly feeling marvelous again. “Our own Lord Idian is certainly one of the inner circle, and if he lacks the specific information, he’ll still know in whose skull it resides. Since he’ll be here in just a short while, we’ll simply have to ask him.” Look at Green, railroading her antagonists from doing anything interesting, in addition to her protagonists, just so her stupid plotline can proceed without interruption. quote:“We’ll be much better off finding someone high enough up that they won’t be monitored,” Selendi proposed with a nod. “Signs of tampering won’t matter if no one thinks to look for them, but we’ll still have to be careful in general. We don’t want to run into any part of that very widespread investigation of the murders.” Green: "It's been a while since I reminded everyone about this totally uninteresting murder arc that will have no significant consequence to the plot whatsoever." quote:“They’re really determined to find out who’s behind it all,” Homin put in while Delin’s indignation dissolved into chills. “Everyone is furious over having accused an innocent man, thereby being the direct cause of his death. They’re dead set on finding out who used them as a murder weapon, and when they do…” Based on the characterization of noble society, I don't buy this whatsoever. quote:“And when they do, I’d hate to be the one,” Kambil agreed with his own shudder. “If they don’t make the most horrible example of him imaginable, the sun will probably fail to rise the next day. But that doesn’t tell us who we ought to question. Choosing one of the Advisors, for instance, would probably be a waste of time, because he would be too high up. Details would be known by his subordinate, but just which one…” "the most horrible example imaginable" is quite possibly the least evocative scary image, ever. It's so abstract that the threat loses all meaning. If only Kambil had said something like: "they would probably strip that person of their nobility, whip them within an inch of their life, then have an Earth magic practitioner heal them again, then repeat the process half a dozen times until that person bears a closer resemblance to a broken pretzel that they do to a human body", well I think that would be much more terrifying. Nope, don't buy Delin's terror. quote:“… so that’s what we’ll do,” Delin heard Kambil say. “It makes the most sense, but we’ll have to cover our tracks carefully. We’ll pretend we’re going out to party, we’ll find a group to join, and after making sure they all believe we’re still there, we’ll go about our business. If we pay attention to the details, we won’t have a problem.” Every single antagonist in this series, with regards to power and perceived leadership: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr1IA8Vnw0A quote:A moment later Lord Idian appeared, but the man stayed only long enough to take the report on their “progress.” Kambil dutifully gave Idian what he wanted to hear, and once the man left again the group broke up. Delin searched discreetly for Kambil without finding the man, nor did he appear at lunch. A servant told Delin that Kambil was napping, and had left instructions not to be disturbed. That meant Delin had no choice but to wait, and so after lunch he took his own nap. how the hell is Delin unable to FIND KAMBIL in a HOUSE when he has EARTH MAGIC? quote:They all got together to go out to dinner, during which they pretended to boisterous good cheer. Delin pretended along with everyone else, and soon was feeling almost as good as those around them thought he did. A good number of party invitations came their way from other diners, but they accepted only the one where the most people were likely to appear. Kambil did the accepting, and that, too, rubbed Delin the wrong way. I'm really not seeing how any of this prevents Delin from trying to assert his leadership and do the accepting. He's suddenly become super passive and Kambil has been deliberately leaving him alone, so this isn't even Kambil's tampering (though I'm sure Green would insist that it is, in an effort to cover her own plotholes) quote:The party was alive with music and laughter, but Delin had scant time to enjoy himself. Homin had quietly reminded him that it was his responsibility to keep them all sober no matter how much they drank, and he also had to do the same for himself. Delin was ready to feel put-upon until Selendi whispered, “I thank any Higher Aspect that you’re here, Delin. We certainly couldn’t do this without you.” quote:Responding to the touch had become so automatic that it was done before Delin had time to think about it. Then three additional connections sprang into being, and despite the lack of a proper formation, the five of them were Blended. The fact that you can stop at this stage without going into full Blending will be used exactly one more time before everybody forgets this is a thing. I hate how Green has introduced this mechanic and then proceeded to do absolutely nothing with it. quote:The entity reached out to the people near its five separate locations, ordering them to remember its individual presence even once those individuals were gone. Then the entity searched out and touched with forgetfulness all those who would have to be passed on the way out of the room, and the chore was done. Those who saw them leave and later return would never remember the times. And somehow, nobody else at this party is going to notice this gigantic loophole in the Spirit magic instructions, because I guess people at parties don't mingle and just stand around all night, talking in the same groups. I'm beginning to think that in addition to never having gone to an effectively run meeting, Green has never gone to a party either. quote:One by one the others joined him in the outer hall, but they didn’t go toward the front door. They made their way to a side door instead, slipped out without notice, moved through the shadows of the lawn to the street, where a coach unfamiliar to Delin waited. The driver sat and stared as though in a trance, and Kambil climbed up to join the man while the others entered the coach. Every single Delin POV chapter from hereon out: quote:And begin they did. So swiftly were they Blended and then melded, that the Delin individual would have gasped. But the Delin individual was no more, not while the entity was awake and functioning. It drifted away from the five bodies which had spawned it, floating easily toward the house where its objective could be found. This ability for more powerful talents to sense a Blending entity in their midst will not come up again, until the sequel trilogy (and I'm pretty sure it's Book 8), by which time Green has totally forgotten this scene and will have everybody treat it like a new amazing ability. quote:Lord Embisson led the way to the largest privacy facility the entity had ever seen, one that was, happily, not meant for the use of the party attendees. Lord Embisson’s thoughts reflected the concepts of personal property and complete privacy, and so it turned out to be. No one was in the room, and so it would be unnecessary to send the man elsewhere. even is this?! I hate hate hate reading these entity POVs. quote:*Stand and respond to the questions put to you * the entity commanded with another touch. *You will answer fully, and speak only the truth. Afterward, you will forget. * This prose is terribly formatted like this in the ebook. quote:“I will answer fully and truthfully, and afterward I will forget,” the aged man agreed easily, otherwise unmoving and unblinking. “What would you like to know?” Remember how smart Lord Embisson is, right now. And then wait until we get to the sequel trilogy to see what Green does to this character. quote:*And the rest?* the entity prompted. That spelling error is in the ebook. And once again, we have an on-page reinforcement of how pointless this whole sham is, on both the noble and the commoner side of the equation. The last competition was only 25 years ago and based on the prologue plus that one random afternoon Lorand spent reading in Tamrissa's library, history books are clearly a thing in this Empire. How is it possible that none of the competitors realized that this is a death match from the start? quote:The entity considered that very briefly, then found itself agreeing. Although completely unhelpful, the attitude was entirely reasonable. Wise men learned to avoid what was dangerous to know, and wasted no time on those slated to die. So it touched the man again, returning him to normal, then floated out of the house and back toward the coach. This time its floating was faster, however, as one of the party guests could conceivably choose to leave at any moment. Except Kambil is like the one exception to this? Trying to sort out Green's non-existent character continuity gives me a headache. quote:The others all agreed immediately, and despite Delin’s outrage and anger, he was forced to add his own agreement. The rest of them seemed pleased to hear that awful opinion being voiced about them, not one of them taking it as the mortal insult it really was. To them it was protective coloration, but to Delin it was completely unforgivable, almost as bad as what Rigos had done… I don't think I would have this big of a problem with Delin's character if he'd been introduced differently. Summary: Day 15 After some Blending practice, Delin and co go out to interrogate High Lord Embisson Ruhl, only to discover that he doesn't know anything useful, because anybody who knows anything about Blendings is killed after the competitions. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 46 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 26 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house MEALS ON-SCREEN: 30 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 22 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 31 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending) Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 99 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 51 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 17 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 30 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 81 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 53 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 63 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 32 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 12 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 14 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 11, including 1 rape scene (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: I hate these cardboard cut out characters. I'm pretty sure this entire book would have been more interesting if Green had set up colliding plotlines. Seeing as how I committed to writing a 5 book series for NaNoWriMo (of which I'm only just getting to finishing Book 1), I don't know when I will have time to do a sequel to the Blending Rewrite. But in theorizing about a rewrite, I think I'd probably expand the number of POVs involved and set up a win/lose dichotomy, though admittedly I have changed a lot of the world building so that I couldn't transplant characters like Kambil or Adriari straight over, even though their motivations would be pretty interesting to explore. Leng fucked around with this message at 10:07 on Jan 17, 2022 |
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I just binge read this whole thread over the last few days. Thank you, Leng, for the enormous effort you put into this. It’s been quite the ride. I’m one of the people who read the Let’s Rewrite efforts without being familiar with the source material. I am just FLOORED at how bad these books are, the level of trash is just beyond anything I could have pictured. Every time there’s a word count total summed up for where we’re at, it’s like NOTHING IS HAPPENING. I guess Jovvi’s gold was pointless because we’re now past the point where it could have made a difference. It feels like Green literally forgot it exists. So the plot, when it bothers to advance, is a mess, but what really gets to me is how terrible the character interactions are. The horrible awkward dialogue, the mind-boggling decision making (why is Tamrissa concocting a stupid plan to lose Vallant’s interest, then we have the big argument scene where everyone comes clean about their feelings, then she’s still going through with her plan after telling him she wants to sleep with him - it felt like this came out of nowhere like the argument never even happened), the inane narration, and even the romance! Green is a romance author, how is it possible to write such boring and awful scenes of characters with NO CHEMISTRY? (I do not buy Tamrissa’s interest in Vallant in the slightest, nor Jovvi’s interest in Lorand past “he’s hot” and a purely mercenary interest in his skill set.) The continuing character assassinations are just wild. Rion is over the moon for a sex worker and can’t imagine why Lorand warned him about not hurting a woman (I also can’t, btw, can someone enlighten me - is violent rage post-orgasm a thing?) but then he’s plotting murder just a few chapters later out of jealousy over women who said no to him (?). Jovvi is aggressively non-monogamous, but then spends all her time pining for Lorand and thinking that his fear of burnout is what’s keeping them apart (???). Tamrissa is apparently dumb as a pile of rocks to buy this story about the testing authority making Vallant sleep (WHAT?). Flip a coin each chapter on whether Lorand remembers Hat exists and does or does not want to be here. I guess you can say one thing in favour of Vallant - he’s consistently been terrible from the beginning! I’m just scratching my head. Were these books Green’s attempt at working through her feelings about polyamory? Or just a cynical representation for marketing purposes? The setup is right there for more interesting relationships but I don’t know why she included it with no intentions of following through. How Rion doesn’t go to Lorand for “men only” lessons after Jovvi turns down his first proposition is beyond me, Green set it up in the tavern scene. Jovvi should definitely be giving Tamrissa advice on self love while also sleeping her way through Rion and Vallant (for many reasons!). Threesomes should be a thing for revealing more dynamics within the group. And Jovvi is also here as a courtesan to talk about sex positivity and how great it is, but then she’s completely passive in all her sex scenes (why isn’t she coaching Rion, hello?). The only sex scene that hasn’t been blaring or completely perfunctory was the first one with Rion and Naran, IMO, which wasn’t written well either. If you feel strongly that the only interesting romantic relationships are hetoro pairs, then… why would you write an entire series with a poly magical element critical to the plot? There are also so many antagonists and so few of them are interesting. But the bar is so low that to be honest I would rather read about what Kambil and Delin’s band of losers are up to, because at least they have goals they take actions to achieve. Delin, despite his intelligence being cratered into the earth after his introduction, has done more BY HIMSELF to uncover the conspiracy and influence events than the protagonists have done as a group across three books. It’s unreal. Rion knows about Kambil, he couldn’t propose questioning the guy like they did Naran…? Or maybe realize that Kambil is seriously trying to compete, if he’s gathering intelligence about the other teams, and suggest a truce to take other groups out of the running? Why is Delin the one with this idea? Leng posted:NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: Okay there’s also a major plot issue that’s been bothering me, and since I don’t think it was included as a plot hole I’m wondering if there’s some rock bottom stupid explanation coming up. Spoilers for, I think book 5? If no one knows about Sight magic, why does anyone believe the prophecy? How can they not know that seeing the future is possible? Is the prophecy NOT Sight magic? What the heck is going on here??? Final random thought - I’m also following secretly best girl’s Sword of Truth Let’s Read, which is objectivist fantasy (as opposed to libertarian), and they both feature weird BDSM. I am not super familiar with these ideologies. Is this… a coincidence? And you asked at one point in the thread about school librarians and who vets this stuff. A friend’s mom growing up was a school librarian - there is no way they have time to read every book they put in school libraries. They’re relying on network recommendations, blurbs/marketing, and book store employees to help them out, because they’re easily buying 100+ new books per year to put in the library (usually in 1-2 big shopping trips) and their primary concern is just getting kids reading rather than checking how appropriate the content is. Which, to be fair, would be difficult to judge anyway, even though I personally think it should be a no-brainer that stuff like this and Piers Anthony should be verboten.
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kaom posted:Green is a romance author, how is it possible to write such boring and awful scenes of characters with NO CHEMISTRY? (I do not buy Tamrissa’s interest in Vallant in the slightest, nor Jovvi’s interest in Lorand past “he’s hot” and a purely mercenary interest in his skill set.) Her other books, the books which are straight up romance/erotica, are even worse. Like horrifyingly bad. At least in The Blending, she made some sort of attempt at trying to develop the relationship between the characters. kaom posted:I’m just scratching my head. Were these books Green’s attempt at working through her feelings about polyamory? Or just a cynical representation for marketing purposes? Green, on the actual inspiration of the series: Sharon Green posted:I read one of his Gor books, never having read or heard of them before, got a few pages into it, then exploded and hit the ceiling...I didn't just hit the ceiling and explode when I read one, I immediately began to write once I came down. The Terry-Warrior books were my attempt to show a three-dimensional helpless female character, not the two-dimensional ones you see in the Gor books. Then, of course, I turned to the other side of the coin, a nonhelpless female character. The Terry-Warrior books refer to her Terrilian pentology about empaths, which is actually sci-fi but the protagonist, Terry, gets trapped on a planet with a stock standard fantasy barbarian cultural setting. Terry's entire arc from book 1 to book 5 is just her getting raped, repeatedly, and ends with her falling in ~True Love~ with her rapist and staying on said planet (also entire series spoilers the planet is actually her real home planet). Her rapist never really figures out that rape is bad but it's okay, because it's ~True Love~ and he's made some sort of vow to not treat her like he would treat any other And on that note, more from that interview, underlined emphasis mine: quote:ITT: From time to time you attend science fiction and fantasy conventions across the country. What's the best thing that ever happened to you at a Con? kaom posted:Okay there’s also a major plot issue that’s been bothering me, and since I don’t think it was included as a plot hole I’m wondering if there’s some rock bottom stupid explanation coming up. Spoilers for, I think book 5? If no one knows about Sight magic, why does anyone believe the prophecy? How can they not know that seeing the future is possible? Is the prophecy NOT Sight magic? What the heck is going on here??? So Book 5 spoilers the prophecy IS Sight magic, kind of and only gets fully explained in a massive info dump in the last chapter of Book 8, and it's basically a whole bunch of full advanced Blendings get together and use Sight magic and predict macro trends with it and then backasswards those trends into a vaguely worded "prophecy" that's not a true prophecy in the sense of the standard fantasy convention which, as with many things Green, I find the concept interesting and the execution piss poor. kaom posted:Final random thought - I’m also following secretly best girl’s Sword of Truth Let’s Read, which is objectivist fantasy (as opposed to libertarian), and they both feature weird BDSM. I am not super familiar with these ideologies. Is this… a coincidence? Oh man. I think I started reading Sword of Truth at some point and DNF'd it. Good heads up, I'm gonna check it out. kaom posted:And you asked at one point in the thread about school librarians and who vets this stuff. A friend’s mom growing up was a school librarian - there is no way they have time to read every book they put in school libraries. They’re relying on network recommendations, blurbs/marketing, and book store employees to help them out, because they’re easily buying 100+ new books per year to put in the library (usually in 1-2 big shopping trips) and their primary concern is just getting kids reading rather than checking how appropriate the content is. Which, to be fair, would be difficult to judge anyway, even though I personally think it should be a no-brainer that stuff like this and Piers Anthony should be verboten.
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quote:CHAPTER THIRTY-NINE This is the worst alibi. I'm not even sure why they think they need an alibi anymore, especially when Vallant doesn't even make an attempt to go see the model boats. I don't know why Green would do this and NOT have the entire scene take place at the lake with the model boats, because then there would have been something interesting going on in the background while Plot gets dropped into our characters' laps. quote:In reality, however, he was there for an entirely different reason. Very subtle guys. There couldn't POSSIBLY be anybody else with Water magic in the vicinity, like maybe anyone in the park who's there for the model boat racing? I guess they ALL happen to be Air magic users? quote:Finding that second, deliberate beacon wasn’t difficult at all, especially since Vallant knew what it looked like on the outside. Pagin Holter was a small, energetic man who’d been a groom before passing that first test, and all through the rest of the tests he and Vallant hadn’t had any trouble matching one another. Now he waited in the midst of another thick patch of shrubbery, using the power to pulse his talent like a flashing light every minute or two. Green: "Here's a reminder of who Pagin is, because he's a character that I didn't put any effort into developing, because he's like the Hat equivalent for Vallant, since Vallant is bad at making non-lady friends (oh wait, Vallant is also bad at making lady friends but it's ok because he's just SO HOT he can them into quote:There were none in evidence near either of them, so he continued on to where Holter stood waiting. I hate this kind of lazy writing. Spirit magic is the ability that lets people communicate mind to mind, the other talents don't have that perk. What I think Green means here is that everyone's method of handling the power/talent is unique to them? quote:“We can’t afford to be found talkin’, so let’s get right down to it. How is it goin’ with your group?” Green: "I can't afford to have my characters actually do stuff to discover things for themselves, so here's an entire info dump via dialogue." quote:“Never thought it would happen, but we made it all th’ way t’Blendin’,” Holter replied with a shake of his head. “Thet there fat noble din’t do nothin’ t’help, ’ceot tellin’ us about how t’stand. Thet there’s th’ key, looks like, standin’ in th’ right place.” You can't afford to be found together talking so now you're gonna go sit out on the grass in the open? I mean, that looks a lot less suspicious in my opinion, but Vallant, you've just contradicted yourself. quote:“After that just the touchin’ alone starts the Blendin’, and then you all decide if you want the surface kind or the full meld.” Green: "Look at how smart my protagonists are compared to everybody else!" quote:“drat thet Drowd anyways,” Holter spat as he echoed Vallant’s disgust. “He keeps pickin’ away at me, tryin’ t’ git me riled crazy, an’ th’ others ’r scared t’face up t’ ’im. Been thinkin’ I oughta do sumthin’ t’slap ’im down, an’ now it looks like I ain’t gotta choice. His partyin’ an’ carousin’s been hurtin’ th’ group anyways…” Green: "Have some more reminders about an antagonist who never really mattered in the first place and isn't going to matter now." quote:“Have you found out where the other three groups are?” Vallant asked when Holter’s voice trailed off. “There’s things everybody needs to know, and not just that vortex lie.” Green: "Hey guys, remember how I keep telling you that things are rigged? Well just in case you forgot, things are rigged!" quote:And that reminds me: you and the others have to know that we were all drugged after that very first test. As it stands now, you’ll obey anybody who keys you with the right words.” Green: "And here's a reminder on exactly HOW things were rigged! And how nonsensical the noble Blending's plan is!" quote:We tried it usin’ somebody who wasn’t keyed, and now it doesn’t work on us anymore. If you like, I can do the same for you.” Look at the Blendingverse programming in action. quote:Holter blinked at him, no longer under the phrase’s control, and then the small man frowned. In case you fell asleep while trying to get through the book to date. I'm still mad that Rion hasn't propositioned either Lorand or Vallant, with a "hey guys, imagine how much stronger we would get if EVERYBODY had sex with each other!" But then, you know, in this world it took them centuries to figure out that when you have FIVE types of magical talents, maybe you should try Blending all five together, instead of just four. quote:“But you’re goin’ to have to find out what those things are by yourselves, because we don’t have all the answers yet,” Vallant finished up. “Oh, and let’s agree now that if they want us to eat or drink anythin’ at the competitions, we all refuse. If they try makin’ us stay anywhere but at our residences, we all refuse. If we give those lowlives any chance at us at all, we’ll deserve anythin’ that happens.” Bad foreshadowing. quote:Holter’s expression of confusion prompted Vallant to tell the other man about what had gone on between him and Tamrissa since Holter left the residence. For someone who didn’t want to talk about something, Vallant realized that he left nothing out. But he needed to talk about it, and not to the others in his group. They were more than willing to help, but so far their suggestions had done no more good than his own few ideas. Because you guys are all terrible at relationships. quote:“… so she’s probably waitin’ for the last night before the competitions,” Vallant finally summed up. “She’s afraid of gettin’ involved with me, and nothin’ any of us say to her changes her mind. That’s one true mule of a woman, and when she’s touchin’ the power there’s no arguin’ with her.” Wait until you guys see how they decide how to resolve this impasse. quote:“An’ she’s always touchin’ th’ power,” Holter said, nodding his understanding. “Doin’ thet ain’t hurtin’ her ’r makin’ her real tired? I’d prob’ly be flat dead frum touchin’ it all th’ time.” It is SO NOT FINE, but it's Vallant so that's just par for course. quote:“They’ll be goin’ lots better now, thanks t’ you,” Holter said as he also rose, holding out his hand again. “You an’ th’ rest take care now, an’ good luck with thet idea.” Green: "Did you remember that my protagonists are the smartest people ever?" quote:Holter gave him the oddest look before he walked off, but Vallant didn’t have the time to wonder what it meant. He had to marshal the strongest arguments he could find to get the help he needed against Tamrissa, and then… With the number of lines that this crosses, we really should have gotten an entire scene about this, but since it's Green and she makes a point of writing scenes that we don't need and skipping scenes that we do, we're just gonna see the icky result. Summary: Day 15 After some Blending practice, Delin and co go out to interrogate High Lord Embisson Ruhl, only to discover that he doesn't know anything useful, because anybody who knows anything about Blendings is killed after the competitions. Meanwhile, Vallant goes out to meet Pagin after breakfast, so that Pagin can get on with doing plot critical things, like freeing the rest of the common Blendings from the command phrase, off screen so Vallant can come up with a new plan on how to circumvent consent in order to sleep with Tamrissa. Priorities, yo. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 46 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 27 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park MEALS ON-SCREEN: 30 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 22 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 31 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending) Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 99 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 51 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 17 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 31 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 81 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 53 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 63 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 32 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 12 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 15 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 11, including 1 rape scene (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: This chapter is literally here just to recap the entire book to date and should be shredded for cat litter. Actually wait. You know what, I could have used a nice diversion chapter about Vallant showing up to model ship racing in the lake and getting SUPER COMPETITIVE about it by crafting a miniature version of the Sea Queen out of ice and then using Water magic to summon tiny tidal waves to knock out the competition, all so he can work out his homesickness and the whole deal of not being able to go back to the sea, because if he does survive the competitions, it means he's going to be trapped in Gan Garee forever as part of the Seated Blending ruling the empire, which is like even worse than the desk job Mirra wanted him to take and the whole reason he broke off their relationship in the first place. And as part of that, I suppose there could be some sort of deep reflection about why he decides to stay for Tamrissa which hopefully goes beyond just "she's really hot and I'd really like to bone her" though honestly there's so little substance to that relationship that I think I'd prefer a 10 page inner monologue on exactly how the shipping industry works in Gandistra and what Vallant would change about it if he were in charge. Leng fucked around with this message at 10:07 on Jan 17, 2022 |
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At least Vallant ranting about shipping regulations would be constructive world building, rather than setting the story amid the backdrops of a high school play with a shoestring budget.
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POTENTIAL TRIGGER WARNING There is a sex scene at the end of this chapter. Personally I think it's a clear cut instance of rape, so proceed with caution and skip if you need to. quote:CHAPTER FORTY I'm kind of glad we skipped over yet another random encounter because all of them follow the exact same pattern: random NPC demands entry > protagonist refuses > random NPC continues demands > protagonist engages Facts and Logic > random NPC makes not-threats and storms out quote:“Let’s just say he was a stranger personally but not actually,” I replied as I picked up my teacup again. “He was an assessor sent by my father, to appraise the value of his house before the sale. The man was a self-important fool, and demanded to be let in to do his job.” ...oh. We're still getting the random encounter, only narrated in dialogue. While this is less word count, it's painful in a different way, because now we get to watch them all pat themselves on the back for being Green's soapboxes. quote:“I told him that this house belongs to me, not to my father, despite my father’s repeated attempts to steal it,” I said after sipping at my rewarmed tea. “I also told him that I’ve asked the court to do something about my father, because his continual nonsense is distracting me from the competitions I’ll be entering in four days time. I added that if I ever saw that man or anyone from his firm again, I’d include their names in my plea to the court.” Not-spoilers: absolutely nothing will come of this. quote:“I hope it’s something that teaches him a good lesson,” Lorand put in, sounding rather unforgiving. “He’s deliberately trying to distract you so that we won’t be at our best in the competitions. Is he really so uninformed that he doesn’t know what will happen if we lose, or does he expect his gold to buy you back under his thumb?” Uh, YOU GUYS didn't know what will happen if you lose at the beginning. Like, I still think that's a massive plothole, but for Lorand to get all uppity about Storn not knowing is dumb. quote:“I have the feeling he’s too desperate to think straight,” I said, considering the point. “That man Odrin Hallasser—I now remember people mentioning his name, but not in any friendly or everyday businesslike manner. Most seem to be afraid of him, and I got the impression that they did quite a lot to stay out of his way. My father’s oversized ego led him to make a deal with the man, and now he’s having trouble keeping to his end of the bargain. Dear, sweet Dom Hallasser may even have begun to threaten him.” Obligatory terrible info dump about this character that we've seen exactly once on screen as a creep slavering at the sight of Tamrissa. quote:“It would hardly surprise me,” Jovvi agreed, also looking thoughtful. “I remember how I reacted to that man, and thought then that your father was a fool for getting involved with him. I just … wonder if going to court was the wisest thing to do. When things become official, I become very uncomfortable…” Oh please. quote:“What choice did I have?” I asked as Lorand reached over to touch her shoulder gently in support. They weren’t sitting together, but I was certain they were spending nights together. What happened to "we all hate each others' guts"? Seriously, being a spy must be the cushiest job in the Blendingverse. You can be about as observant as a door knob and still get paid for it. quote:Not that I envied them in any manner at all, or Rion and Naran either. Becoming involved was a foolish thing to do, and I was perfectly delighted that I hadn’t done the same. usually you want to escalate the stakes, not the other way around. I hate everything about this prose. quote:“Yes, I know you’re both right,” Jovvi admitted with a sigh. “The only other choice we had was to visit the man as a Blending, and people would have noticed his abrupt change in behavior. If the wrong someone noticed, it could have—” WHY AREN'T YOU GUYS DOING ACTUAL USEFUL STUFF WITH YOUR BLENDING?!??!?!!??!? Like, you realize just intel gathering would be great, right? There is such a thing as a happy medium between "not using our Blending to do anything" and "using our Blending to mind control everyone around us and replace them with facsimiles we've constructed"? quote:Her words broke off abruptly, undoubtedly because of what sounded like a riot coming from the front hall. A woman’s voice rose shrilly above a man’s, and then the two combatants appeared in the doorway I’d left open. The man was the servant currently attending to the front door, and the woman was my mother. You read this and you think it's going somewhere, but I'm telling you, it's not. We'll see Storn again in books 4 and 5 and I'm pretty sure Green forgot that this happened, because there will be zero reference to him ever being arrested in the first place. quote:“Considering how browbeaten my sisters are, of course I’m the one responsible,” I agreed pleasantly. “I thought about Father’s various friends on the bench, and decided I would be foolish to simply wait until he arranged for our disagreement to come up before them. ‘He who strikes first strikes best,’ Father always says, and he certainly is right.” This scene should have been so, so much more than it is right now. Green's characters magically show growth out of nowhere because character growth is literally powered by magic. quote:I waited until she left the room before sitting down again, and that was when Jovvi and Lorand left their own chairs. Lorand walked to the door to make sure my mother actually left the house, and Jovvi came over to me. Have an extremely on the nose statement of the theme. How the hell does Green manage to write such flat scenes? quote:“She’s gone, and I think it’s time we talked about something else,” Lorand said, coming over to crouch beside my chair and put a gentle hand to my face. “I don’t think you ladies know that I managed to speak privately to Meerk this morning.” Green's terrible transitions continue. quote:“I certainly didn’t,” Jovvi said as I shook my head to agree with her. “Has he found your friend Hat yet?” Green: "I can't be bothered thinking about how the antagonists are doing this so I'm just gonna say it's super secret and nobody knows." I mean, I kind of did this in my own book so I don't exactly blame her, but I at least limited this to just one thing, not every single thing. quote:“That doesn’t sound good at all,” I said, gratefully taking Lorand’s problem in place of my own. “If your friend had been turned loose after the challenge, Meerk would have been able to find him even if he promptly got drunk again. What bothers me most is the way he began to shout about the challenge being nothing but a show. If he refused to stop saying that, they might have refused to release him.” Oh, are we back to Lorand actually caring about Hat now? quote:“Yes, I know,” Lorand agreed heavily. “I’ve been telling myself the same thing, but that hasn’t stopped me from wanting to become furious. And Meerk has decided not to give up. Somewhere in this city is someone who knows what became of those people, and he’s determined to find that someone. I have the feeling that Meerk is more than he appears to be, but how much more and precisely what, I simply don’t know.” HINT HINT HINT MEERK IS IMPORTANT. I don't know why Green's trying to use the least observant protagonist to point this out, because there's no way Lorand would actually realize anything. quote:“What I know is that I’m suddenly in the mood for a soak in the bath house,” Jovvi said as Lorand straightened up. “I’m also in the mood for company, but not male company. That means you, Tamma, so let’s go.” Two terrible transitions in one chapter. quote:I tried to refuse her very unsubtle invitation, but she pulled me out of the chair and dragged me along with her. Part of me wanted to be alone, but another part shivered at the idea of being alone with my thoughts. So I let myself be bullied into going along, and the time was unbelievably peaceful. Jovvi and I soaked in silence, but her presence made me know that I’d never be alone again—and that there were people who really did love me. I didn’t have to become a victim again to be loved, and that knowledge was true freedom. This would have been a good place to put that Jovvi/Tamrissa sex scene that should exist based on all of the setup in these books. In fact, someone has written this on AO3 (straight up erotica so very much :nsfw:): https://archiveofourown.org/works/13055235 quote:After bathing I stayed in my apartment until dinner, mostly to keep from running into Vallant. I’d been trying my best to annoy the life out of him, but it was becoming harder and harder to do. Most of me wanted to do something other than annoy him, despite what I’d learned about the pain of becoming involved. I did have to lie with him, that went without saying, but if I could just put the time off long enough… The first day of the competitions would certainly be insane enough to distract me from anything that might have happened the night before… Wait for it guys. This plan of Vallant's is just spectacularly bad. quote:At the last moment I decided to take dinner in my apartment. My insides still felt bruised from the confrontation I’d had with my mother, which meant I was in no condition to argue with Vallant the way I’d been doing. If I saw him I was more likely to ask him to hold me, and that would ruin every one of my very sensible plans. It’s ridiculous that weakness so often overcomes common sense, and I couldn’t help wondering if it were just me… Green is the worst at trying to write an unreliable narrator. quote:I expected Jovvi and Lorand to come by after dinner, to tell me what Vallant had learned from Pagin Holter if for no other reason. By the time it occurred to me that he might not have learned anything, I’d already begun to yawn. I’d had an upsetting day and was in need of a good night’s sleep, which would give me the strength to hold my own during the next morning’s practice. We’d taken to testing our limits, and that required more than a little effort… DUN DUN DUN. quote:In my dream I sat up against my pillows in bed, having already relit one of the room’s lamps with my talent. The door to my bedchamber opened and Vallant came in, wearing a wrap and the sort of stare he’d been giving me for the last few days. When he saw me watching him, he grinned faintly. Dude. KNOCK. quote:“If you’re waitin’ for me to start performin’ immediately, you’re in for a small disappointment,” he said as he circled to the other side of the bed. “I don’t believe in performin’ alone, and in any event prefer to take my time.” quote:“What are you doing in my dream?” I asked, watching as he reached to the tie of his wrap. I had to admit that I really wanted to see his body again, and since this was a dream there was no reason why I shouldn’t. DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN. quote:“I’m here because you want me here,” he replied, pausing before opening his wrap. “If for some reason that doesn’t happen to be true, I’ll leave again at once.” Does anybody believe this? quote:“No, I don’t want you to leave,” I decided after a moment. “I don’t ever really want you to leave, but I simply can’t cope with the ups and downs that go into a relationship. There are so many uncertainties, so many times when all you can do is hope for the best… I’m not very good at hoping.” Who talks like this in a dream? Is anyone in this thread a lucid dreamer? quote:“That’s why you need me,” he said with a tender expression, taking off the wrap and tossing it aside before getting into bed. “I’ve got lots of experience with hopin’, so I can do it for the both of us. Why don’t you try it and see if you like it?” The actual subtext: Vallant: "I'm super good at doing the sex, once you sleep with me you'll discover that you'll just constantly want my " quote:His arms were around me by then, and I discovered that being held was a lot better than simply looking at his marvelous body. He was so broad and strong, and yet so gentle and tender at the same time. I felt absolutely no fear of him, and for that, at least in part, I had Rion and Lorand to thank. It would have killed me if I’d flinched away from Vallant’s touch … not when he meant so much to me… quote:“I’ve been waitin’ a long time to give you my physical love, but it’s goin’ to have to wait a bit longer,” Vallant murmured as I held to him tightly, my cheek against the warmth of his chest. “Holdin’ you in my arms like this feels too good for me to want to rush it. You don’t mind, do you?” Also Vallant: "PLEASE LET ME BANG YOU RIGHT NOW" quote:My lips already curved in a smile from his offer to do my hoping for me, and now the curve deepened at the thought that I might mind being held like something very precious and dear. I shook my head in answer to his question, unwilling to intrude on my enjoyment with words, and he simply made a sound of satisfied acknowledgment. We would do no more than hold each other for a while, letting everything else wait. You should be very suspicious of this Tamrissa. quote:Instead my desire for him began to increase, heating my blood so quickly that it startled me. Oh look, she figured out the weird sex trick. Turns out it just amounts to "be aroused". Also spoilers for the end of this chapter seriously Jovvi and Lorand? Not cool quote:It hadn’t been like this with Rion or Lorand, neither the speed nor the intensity of the feelings, and for a moment I didn’t know what to do. Then what to do became obvious, and I raised my face and moved my lips toward his. The most clinical description of someone initiating a kiss, ever. quote:His response came so quickly, it was as though we were linked as a Blending entity again. Two minds merged into one, a single thought, a single intention, a single desire. His lips demanded mine as furiously as mine demanded his, I'm now picturing the two of them snogging in the horrible manner when you're pretty sure that both of them are just trying to eat the other person's mouth. quote:and the fire in my blood leaped to his flesh and through it to ignite his own blood. Green you can't write stuff like this in a world where your characters can literally summon fire, because I am now picturing actual flames travelling through Vallant's skin and into his bloodstream, in which case the guy should be dead. quote:My hands caressed the broad hardness of his back, and his moved around and under my nightgown to explore me thoroughly. "broad hardness". That's the best Green could come up with. Also "explore me thoroughly" sounds like Vallant's giving her a clinical exam. quote:Once again I was the one to cut the preliminaries short. I pulled out of his arms for a moment in order to rid myself of the nightgown, and then I returned to press my body directly against his. His hands came to my face and then his lips had mine again, and I couldn’t keep from burying my fists in his long platinum mane. I wanted him desperately, needed him terribly, and the sounds coming from deep in his throat said he felt the same. This description is just hysterical and possibly the least sexiest thing ever. quote:Insanity gripped us after that, but not so far that I failed to notice when he moved above me. It was the moment I’d been hungering for, but he suddenly turned cautious and overly careful! I snarled a curse at all men for either being too uncaring or too solicitous, and arched up high to capture him quickly. When I locked my legs about him he seemed startled, but only for an instant. After that the insanity had him again, and I was able to forget about everything but pleasure. I can't even. quote:Even after having lain with Rion and Lorand, I had no idea that pleasure could be so intense. We both flamed with it, on my part again and again, on his part, twice. After his first release I thought with disappointment that we were done, but he quickly showed me that I was in error. Happily in error, deliciously wrong, and we continued on and on until our strength was completely spent. OMG. quote:Afterward we lay side by side for quite a while, gasping to regain the breath we’d lost in so wonderful a way. Vallant held my hand as though we were innocent sweethearts, What? This is the worst way to try to convey this. quote:and finally he raised the hand to his lips. This, but uh, not joking. Pretty sure Tamrissa would have carbonized anyone who isn't a High in Water magic. quote:He chuckled before kissing my hand again, but I felt puzzled. He was right about the experience having been incredible, but an awful lot of things didn’t make sense. Has the light bulb switched on yet, Tamrissa? quote:“Why do you keep talkin’ about a dream?” he asked, turning to face me and raising up on one elbow. “I expected you to argue and fight when I just walked in, but I wanted you so badly that I just had to take the chance. Yes. Without knocking. Dude has no respect for Tamrissa's privacy or personal space. WTF exactly was he planning to do if she was actually asleep? Just sneak into bed with her? quote:And I did give you the chance to tell me to leave, if you’ll recall. Did you think I was lyin’ when I said I would?” Yeah, pretty sure we all did. quote:“No,” I replied, suddenly thinking furiously despite my shock. “It’s just… Did you decide on this visit privately, or did you tell the others you were going to try it?” The penny drops! quote:“I had to tell them,” he responded with a small shrug. “If a riot started, they had to know why and be prepared to keep it as private as possible. Why do you ask?” These people are the worst. Three people have just actively ganged up on Tamrissa and used their magical powers to bypass her right to decide. quote:so first thing tomorrow I’m going to have to murder them. I’d do it now, but I haven’t the strength to move.” It is NOT ABOUT YOU VALLANT. quote:“Don’t be an idiot,” I interrupted, putting my hand to his face. “I’m going to murder them because it wasn’t terrible at all, quite the opposite. It was even better than I’d thought it would be, but how am I supposed to forget about you now? How can I spend even one more night refusing to lie beside you?” Vallant: "YESSSSS MY IS ALL-CONQUERING" quote:“As if I still had the choice,” I muttered as I snuggled closer to him. She literally didn't have the choice. It was taken away from her. quote:“I’m still going to murder them, but maybe not first thing tomorrow. I may let them live until second or third thing. Do you have the strength to put out that lamp?” So this is supposed to be a joke, except the setup for Tamrissa to legitimately go try and murder Jovvi and Lorand for messing with her mind is all there. It is ridiculous that this doesn't go anywhere and that there isn't a gigantic magical battle the next morning that tears half the house apart. quote:“Only just,” he acknowledged, and then the small flame died completely. It was nice not having to bother myself, but not nearly as nice as getting ready to sleep in the arms of the man I cared so much about. Jovvi and Lorand had had no right to interfere with my decision about Vallant, but maybe … after I thought about it for a while … I might not murder them at all… Because we can't have our Perfect Protagonists do anything consistent with their characters. Summary: Day 15 After some Blending practice, Delin and co go out to interrogate High Lord Embisson Ruhl, only to discover that he doesn't know anything useful, because anybody who knows anything about Blendings is killed after the competitions. Meanwhile, Vallant goes out to meet Pagin after breakfast, so that Pagin can get on with doing plot critical things, like freeing the rest of the common Blendings from the command phrase, off screen so Vallant can come up with a new plan on how to circumvent consent in order to sleep with Tamrissa. Priorities, yo. Tamrissa has two more unconvincing encounters to duly demonstrate magically aided character growth that has happened entirely off screen. And to no one's surprise, Vallant's plan is to literally barge into Tamrissa's room while she's about to go to sleep and her into liking him—and it actually works (because Green, but also because Jovvi and Lorand decide to mess around with Tamrissa's emotions and bodily reactions, thus taking away her ability to consent). And this is all TOTALLY OKAY because Vallant is so good at mind blowing sex that Tamrissa had many orgasms. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 46 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 27 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park MEALS ON-SCREEN: 30 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 23 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 31 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending) Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 99 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 51 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 17 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 32 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 81 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 53 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 63 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 33 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 16 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 12, including 1 rape scene (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: This scene, which has had THREE BOOKS of Tamrissa even realizes this at the end of the chapter and it's just entirely dismissed on the basis of "I enjoyed the sex, therefore it's okay that they did this to me" and played for laughs. What the actual gently caress Green?! NOT COOL. How about putting in some effort to develop a genuine relationship between these two characters so when they finally get together you don't need to resort to two other characters magically coercing one of the characters into being raped by the other? All of these protagonists are horrible people and someone (not me) should write an alt universe version where Tamrissa and co are actually the villains. Leng fucked around with this message at 10:08 on Jan 17, 2022 |
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I cannot believe this is the payoff to the Tamrissa and Vallant arc. Vallant’s plan isn’t a plan, and Tamrissa gets no agency at all. Another thing I can’t believe: I actually would have preferred some blatant moralizing in this scene! Then I could at least parse what Green was going for (her agenda as concerns these two is more interesting than the characters). Something about hope? Try it before deciding you don’t like it?Leng posted:
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Leng posted:
Christ I forgot how bad that scene is. Flat out arranging the rape of a woman who's just out of an incredibly abusive relationship, and these are the so-called protagonists who spend time merged into a single entity but somehow think it's cool and good to do this to one of their members.
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This chapter is a demonstration of Green's inability to write subtly.quote:CHAPTER FORTY-ONE Why are we still bothering with this farce? If there's a theme somewhere here about the power of the masses being a credible threat to a small group of people in power then I'm not seeing it. quote:“I think we’re all just bundles of raw nerves,” Delin Moord said with a faint smile, possibly even telling the truth. “The only time we’re not is when we’re Blended. Is that true of the others as well?” Because we're spending an inordinate amount of words on this, you can be sure this is a Significant Plot Point. Though sometimes it's really hard to tell with Green. quote:The five young people exchanged glances and shrugs, as if to say that the silliness wasn’t worth arguing about. The matter was more ridiculous than silly, but there was no need for Idian to mention something they all knew. And because this is also here, you also know that this is Significant. quote:“Assuming you’re successful against your opponents tomorrow, you will be returned here for the night,” Idian went on. “The second competitions are scheduled for the second day, of course, but only four of the five remaining Blendings will compete in it. On the third day there will be two Blendings competing, and on the fourth day our new Seated Five will be decided on. By then there will be near hysteria in the city, and we’ll all do well to avoid the crowds completely.” This is the worst fake explanation ever. quote:Once again the five glanced at one another, and a second series of shrugs was his reply. They had no other questions, and so it was time for him to leave. Section break so you know Green's trying to amp up the tension! A shame that the remaining 8 chapters in this book lack any sort of tension whatsoever. quote:“He’s gone,” Kambil came back to report, reclaiming his chair among them. “And as far as I could tell, he noticed nothing at all.” Green continues her campaign of assassinating Delin's character. quote:“How could he have noticed what he never consciously saw?” Kambil asked, keeping his tone reasonable and reassuring. “Our Blending projected an illusion for him, the details of which he himself supplied. In it he went through the routine he expected to, and received only the most ordinary reactions from us. We did ask a single mildly annoying question, but one he had no trouble responding to. After that he simply left, remembering nothing of the real question and answer period.” In typical Green fashion, instead of SHOWING us how this was done using the magic via an antagonist entity POV, we get a boring infodump from a minor character nobody cares about and then get told after the fact what happened in the most boring way possible. quote:“But I remember it,” Bron said, sounding sober and bleak. “If we lose tomorrow we’ll be sent somewhere to ‘describe our experiences as part of a Blending.’ An interesting euphemism for being quickly put out of the way, which is what will really happen. What lovely, grateful people they are.” FIVE FIVE FIVE FIVE FIVE. Also this is written so badly that I can't tell whose POV we're supposed to be in. I'm gonna assume Kambil, based on the fact that he's the opening character for the scene and that we have a description of him doing something with Spirit magic that wouldn't be visible in another POV. quote:“Yes, that’s truly marvelous,” Lord Twimmal said to the group of peasants, pretending he cared how their latest practice had gone. “But we do have other things to discuss, and I would prefer to get to them without any further delay.” Now have the exact same scene playing out again, except this time it's with the protagonists so you can compare/contrast the difference! It will not be any more interesting the second time around. quote:“Of course,” the female Spirit magic user said with a smile. “Please do go on.” Because Tamrissa is Special and Super Hot. quote:“As you know, tomorrow is the big day,” Twimmal continued after clearing his throat. “The first of the competitions will be held, so I’m afraid there won’t be any partying permitted tonight. You must all get your sleep tonight, so that you’ll have sufficient strength tomorrow.” This narration from Twimmal makes zero sense. quote:“What sort of thing will be involved in the competitions?” the Spirit magic female asked. “I mean, will we and our opponents both be trying to do the same thing, or will we be competing directly against each other?” Still no idea why they're keeping up this farce. Or sending incompetent imbeciles to try and maintain the illusion. quote:Her nod looked properly chastened, so Twimmal felt considerably better. This conspiracy is just downright farcical at this point. quote:And with that, the last of it, said, Twimmal made his escape. These peasant places always stank of filth and squalor, which usually made him quite ill after he visited them. He kept the illness from taking him over until he was home, of course, but then he was forced to empty himself. Thank whatever Higher Aspect there was that the torment was nearly over. And the next time his wife and her father banded together to insist that he accept an appointment, he would be much more firm in refusing it… Spoilers for the next few paragraphs but it's for Twimmal whom nobody cares about so I'm not using spoiler tags. Twimmal is being culled by the nobility and it's kind of sad that his wife and his father-in-law are actively behind it. There's a much more interesting story of politicking by the nobility in the background but of course Green's not gonna go there because that would require too much work to write properly. quote:“… and his carriage is leaving the drive now,” Rion heard Jovvi say. “He’s obviously not going to be coming back, so now we can talk.” Green: One. quote:“That’s an excellent point,” Jovvi said with a startled nod. “It hadn’t occurred to me that they would be quite so ruthless with their own, but they must be using this opportunity to cull their ranks. Pick the ones they most want to be rid of, have them learn what no one is supposed to know, and then dispose of them. Two birds with a single stone.” Green: Two. quote:“More than two,” Lorand pointed out. “They also want to be rid of any possible competition for their chosen Blending, so they also dispose of all challengers. And since you didn’t initiate the Blending while Twimmal was here, I’m assuming we were right to believe that he knows little or nothing.” Green: Three. quote:“He was all but reciting by rote,” Jovvi confirmed with a nod. “They told him what to say and he said it, and then he left. He simply isn’t bright enough to wonder about any of it.” Green: Four. quote:“But all other things aren’t equal,” Jovvi reminded her with amused satisfaction. “We’ve built our Blending strength up to the point where we actually could practice and not lose much if anything, so that’s one less worry. We won’t do it, of course, but we could. Now let’s talk about the things we do have to worry about, like how the other groups are doing. Vallant? You got back just before Twimmal arrived, so please tell us now what you learned.” Green: Five. OK that's everybody duly having their say and showing their charming, totally unique personalities. Now I can move on to dropping more plot critical info in my protagonists' laps! quote:“The ten gold dins apiece were obviously too much for them,” Lorand said with a sad shake of his head. “It’s really too bad, but I consider us lucky for losing only one of the five.” Write this story from Pagin's POV instead. quote:Before gettin’ rid of the drugged orders from the fourth group, he thought to ask if they’d already been given any orders. They weren’t told much, but it’s somethin’ we all need to know about : how to respond properly when the time comes that we are given orders.” He's so much smarter than all of you put together. quote:“We’ll certainly have to pretend to be accepting their orders, but without being able to give the proper response we would have been wasting our time. What’s the right way to do it?” You are horrible people. quote:then he continued, “And Holter had more good news. The two people moved out of his residence and put in that extra Blendin’ were happy to sneak back, and the five of them Blended without any trouble at all. They’ve been spendin’ their time practicin’ like crazy, and at the last minute they intend to substitute those two for the woman with Air magic they can’t abide, and our old friend Drowd.” You have no basis for making this conclusion Tamissa. Every single residence should be under active monitoring from spies! Except I guess we have seen the spies being totally incompetent so I guess she actually has a basis for her conclusion. But it also just points to the fact that the conspiracy is ultra incompetent and therefore not a threat at all, thus completely undermining the stakes right before the climax, if you haven't already noticed that there were zero stakes to begin with. quote:“If Drowd is still drinking and carousing the way Pagin said he was, even he probably won’t notice. But isn’t it strange that they were able to Blend with two different people after Blending the first time with others? For some reason I thought that that wasn’t possible.” Oh come on Rion. You're on board with the rape too? You lose your best character status. Pagin is now officially the best character. quote:“I agree with Tamma,” Jovvi said, clearly swallowing a smile over the way Vallant had been sidetracked. “None of the officials tomorrow is likely to notice the substitution, and the residence officials won’t be able to tell them about it until it’s too late. What about our suggestions concerning accepting any hospitality from them?” This is the lamest plan ever. Their brilliant plan boils down to "you can't make us". quote:“I hope you mentioned that they may try force,” Jovvi said, obviously concerned about the issue. “At that point they’ll be desperate to get us back under control, and might not be willing to give in without an argument.” A smarter author would have ensured that the major antagonists have a plan for this. Spoilers for this book: the testing authorities do not have a plan for the back up plan, even though they really should. They don't even have a plan for the first not-plan so it goes exactly as planned. quote:“What about the flasks for water and tea we suggested they buy?” Lorand asked. “And that special oiled wrap for sandwiches? If we keep the things with us at all times, we’ll be able to know that they aren’t tampered with.” Seriously. Pagin is the real protagonist here. quote:“It looks like we really are lucky to be working with the others on this. Green: Help, I made my protagonists so dumb and obsessed with their interpersonal drama that I forgot they needed to do this for the plot to happen! I guess I'll just have a minor character who I sidelined previously do all the work offscreen and then convey it to one of the protagonists offscreen and then have it all come out in a giant info dump. Hah! I am an absolute genius! quote:Did you get a chance to ask Holter if Twimmal was the only instructor he and his group saw? We haven’t seen or heard a thing about that so-called Lord Carmad since the day he was here.” Spoilers for book 8: if you guys had tried, "Carmad" would have kicked your asses. quote:“Yes, it is,” Jovvi said slowly, “but there’s something even more important that we ought to talk about now. Green: I've undermined all of the stakes in my book so I'm going to try and manufacture some! With another terrible transition! quote:I try not to pry so I haven’t been sure, but—Tamma, are you still touching the power?” Spoilers for the rest of this series: there is zero risk, because Tamrissa has accidentally stumbled on the One True Way of Existence and you're meant to try and hold onto the power as much as possible until you can't sever yourself from the power because the power is a magical force that helps you become your True Self and find Magical Blended True Six Way Love that is Very Heteronormative and the Only Possible Happily Ever After quote:“But right now we all have things to do, including finalizing our party arrangements for dinner. We may all be going to bed early, but first we’re entitled to a pre-victory celebration. quote:Rion, please remind Naran, and tell her that her presence is all arranged for.” Green: doing actual character and relationship development would require too much work! So I'm just gonna summarize all of that happening off screen with two sentences. quote:If only this last one proved not to be the actual last… quote:And if only Rion could be certain that Tamrissa really would be all right… Summary: Day 18 Lords Idian and Twimmal show up to give their charges last minute instructions. Idian knows the instructions are full of lies; Twimmal's instructions contain more lies but Twimmal is oblivious to them. Neither the protagonists nor the noble antagonists fall for the sham. Meanwhile, Pagin Holter has been doing all the hard work of information gathering and coordinating with the other commoner Blendings off screen so Our Protagonists can indulge in congratulating themselves for engineering Vallant's rape of Tamrissa and trying to make a Big Deal out of Tamrissa's constantly holding on to the power. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 46 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 27 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park MEALS ON-SCREEN: 30 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 23 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 31 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending) Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 99 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 51 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 17 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 33 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 82 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 54 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 63 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 33 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 17 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 12, including 2 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: In a properly plotted mystery, the discovery/confirmation of the conspiracy and the reveal that they're all slated for death should have been the thing that kicks the climax sequence into gear, after the protagonists have to spend the majority of Act 2 figuring the right people to target to uncover the information. I have to conclude that the only reason people bought these books and enjoy them is because they actually like the terrible sex scenes because the rest of the plot is...non-existent.
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# ? Jan 17, 2022 10:19 |
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quote:CHAPTER FORTY-TWO you guys think you perfected your act of feuding? quote:“I’m actually glad that we’re going this early,” Jovvi said as our coach began to follow the men’s down the drive. “If we’d had to do our waiting here, I would probably have ended up flat and useless. I can refuse to receive the emotions of anyone I choose—except for you four.” Green just randomly extending her magic system in one line of dialogue. What does that even mean, Jovvi? What do you mean "refuse to receive the emotions"? Does Spirit magic work like taste, then? Or is this like a shield? Shields are another mechanic that show up haphazardly. Also, when exactly did you figure out this trick? Because this would have been REAL HANDY during the first test. You know, the one where you totally almost fell off a four foot wide walkway that you could have totally crawled across in order to escape to safety? I do not understand why Green went with a hard magic system at all if she wasn't interested in setting it up properly. quote:“I wonder why we’re starting out this early,” I said, trying to ignore the knot my insides had become. “The placard said that the festivities begin at noon, which means that once we get there we’ll have more than two hours to wait—the exact amount of time depending on how long this trip turns out to be. Why do they need more than two hours to hand us robes and tell us to lose?” Real peak Green foreshadowing, right here. quote:And speaking of doing, how are you managing? Did you have any luck working with Vallant to release your hold on the power?” This is one of the things I hate most about this stupid manufactured subplot. Jovvi has a very valid point here, but ultimately spoilers for the next two books Green reveals her world is actually built to make Jovvi wrong and Tamrissa right, since being unable to release the power is the ideal state of being and I hate hate hate hate HATE it. quote:But no matter what else might be uncertain, at least our relationships with the men have improved.” Look at miracle of Blending, magically solving relationship problems too! And even though THIS mechanic is well defined, I literally don't understand the rationale behind it, other than "Blending is magic". Also I have no idea whether the additional increased strength in the Blending bond is because Tamrissa and Vallant are just - what's the romance trope for this? Fated mates, I think; or because it's the last bond to be strengthened. quote:“What surprises me now, though, is what you’re not saying. There isn’t any trouble between you and Vallant…?” Since Green finally paid off the three book build up of Tamrissa/Vallant tension with a rape scene, she obviously needs to introduce this even more problematic angle so as to keep the relationship drama going. quote:We rode in silence after that, watching the city disappear after a while as we took one of the roads leading to the amphitheater. I’d never been out to it myself before, but everyone in the city knew approximately where it was. It was used only once in twenty-five years, for the Blending competitions, and was supposed to be almost four hundred years old. The government maintained it in between those times, and very often school children were taken out to see it. Can I please get anything, anything at all, that's slightly more descriptive of what this amphitheater looks like? Do I just assume it's like the Arthur Ashe stadium in Flushing Meadows or maybe Citi Field? quote:Today there were more than school children heading for it. It was already a beautiful day, which probably encouraged everyone to get a nice early start, so our fairly rapid progress quickly slowed down to a crawl. The road was clogged with carriages and coaches and people on horseback, and more people walked on the uneven ground to either side of the road. The walkers were most often entire families, some with more than a few children. At what should be the lead up to the climax of this book and the entire tournament arc, we are reading our protagonists' inane conversations about being stuck in a traffic jam. quote:and if we show up exhausted we can always refuse to participate. But come to think of it, they don’t yet know we can refuse. Said with nothing to indicate Jovvi is being sarcastic so I feel like I need to take this at face value, which is just because the previous refusals to participate worked out so well? quote:Ah, well, at least we have water, tea, and sandwiches to keep us fortified.” We literally covered your plans in the previous chapter. quote:“If necessary, we can link up and ask him to do it.” ...wait. Did this part of the scene just happen so we could get that bit of exposition dropped in our laps? WHY COULDN'T THIS HAVE BEEN SHOWN IN A SCENE OF THEM PRACTICING TO BLEND INSTEAD????????????? quote:She couldn’t help but agree with that, and then we settled back into silence again. But the silence was only between ourselves, as the noise outside the coach had risen to a relatively high level. People were happy and excited, and some were even singing. You could delete all three of these paragraphs and lose nothing in the way of plot, character or setting. quote:When we finally came to a stop near one of the private entrances leading to the interior of the amphitheater, there were actually crowds with guardsmen holding them back. One of the guardsmen helped Jovvi and me from the coach while our men got out on their own, and as soon as the crowd saw us they began to cheer. I noticed that none of them actually tried to get too close, but they did cheer with abandon. I am struggling so hard to not hate all of this "gentlemanly" stuff. It's a work of the times and also the faux historical period this is set in, I know I know. I am just sick of it. I will try not to let this influence me too much. quote:* * * I don't think Green understands how effectively currying favor works. Not-spoilers: it's not by being part of an adoring, simpering crowd. Unless the people you're trying to curry favor with are just that dumb. Which, I guess Green has established that they are and is why NONE OF THIS IS COMPELLING, WHY. quote:“Good morning, Lord Idian,” Kambil Arstin said politely when he reached them. “It’s a lovely morning, isn’t it?” Uh...just me or did they all forget that Delin got the test results for ALL of the commoner Blendings? Or are they counting Kambil's efforts at the ball? Because that was also ineffective and they didn't come away learning anything they wanted to learn. This annoyance makes no sense. Also why is Idian making a habit of referencing everyone by full name? He's not the only character that does this either, everybody always refers to everybody else by full name. We don't get any cultural world building to explain why so it's just weird. quote:“That’s the beauty of the favor, Lord Homin,” Idian replied, putting a bit more snap into his voice to keep the boy in line. “There’s no need to do research of any sort with this group, as they took their ten gold dins each and immediately began to spend them on one long good time. This morning they’re barely recovered, I’m told, and may even find it impossible to Blend. The change all but guarantees your victory in the first competitions, which will affect your prestige and standing in a very positive way.” Wait until you learn what it is. It is completely and utterly stupid. quote:It had been Lord Anglard Nobin, the Advisory representative, who had given Idian his instructions, and the man had been as coldly distant and unpleasant as ever. There is literally no basis for this conclusion. quote:Idian thought about that particular position for a moment, then turned back to Adriari’s group before a shudder took him over. No matter how difficult the competitions turned out to be, they would be a pleasant delight compared to what the Advisors meant to come up with. One could almost feel sorry for Moord … if the man weren’t so objectionable… We will meet (some) of the Advisors later. Not-spoilers: they are useless and don't come up with any inventive punishments. Summary: Day 19 Our commoner protagonists and noble antagonists alike get stuck in a traffic jam en route to the amphitheatre that will be a Significant Location on par with the Palace and is not described anywhere as effectively as the palace was (which, if you've forgotten, was "big" and had a "verandah"). The Advisors switch around the matches as a last minute "favor" to Delin and co, for the dumb reason of not wanting Delin to die because they want to make an example of him for the various murders. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 47 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis, Glindil TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 27 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park MEALS ON-SCREEN: 30 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 23 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 31 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending) Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 101 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 52 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 18 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 33 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 83 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 55 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 63 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 33 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 17 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 12, including 2 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: This entire book should have just been 50% magical arena battles, 25% magical intelligence gathering on your next match and 25% conspiracy stuff. Instead, I think we got 50% relationship drama, 25% terrible sex/rape scenes and 25% exposition that had to be conveyed via meeting info dumps because too many words had been used up on relationship drama and sex/rape scenes.
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# ? Jan 31, 2022 08:09 |
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Leng posted:Oh come on Rion. You're on board with the rape too? You lose your best character status. Pagin is now officially the best character. (Pagin obviously can’t be a protagonist since he’s not sleeping with these people. Good for him, really.) I guess there’s some hope for Naran but I’m actually really bothered by her role so far, which appears to be “Sure I’ll just live in your bedroom from now on while you make life and death decisions without me.” That’s, uh, not great. Did they also leave her there to go to these competitions? Rion what are you doing? Did Green forget?
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# ? Feb 6, 2022 10:14 |
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quote:CHAPTER FORTY-THREE We are so far up on the pyramid of abstraction. This amphitheater is going to be a pretty important location and I would dearly love to have some descriptions of what it looks like. I can't parse this thing about it appearing bigger than expected. Is it like a normal height dome over a gigantic pit dug into the earth? Is it circular? How is the thing being held up? With standard architectural elements or with magic? I mean, I'm not asking for much. As a point of comparison, let's take a look at two other books where there are huge magical combat arenas with a floor of sand. From Trudi Canavan's The Novice (Book 2 of The Black Magician trilogy): As they reached the wide flat space outside the Arena, Sonea looked up at the eight curved spires spaced around it. She could feel a faint vibration in the air from the magical barrier the spires supported. Making herself walk to the edge, she looked down at the structure. The base was a sunken stone circle covered with white sand. The spires were spaced evenly around it. From their bases, stone steps rose to the level of the garden. To one side was a square portal that allowed access to the inside of the Arena via a short underground staircase. It's not even that many more words! From Feist/Wurts' Servant of the Empire. The description is broken up across several paragraphs, which I'm going to indicate with "...": Banners flew from every tall building along the avenues leading to the arena. Citizens tossed flowers into the street, to assure the gods they held no envy for those of loftier station....Kevin stared like a blind man just given sight. Past a retinue of warriors in red and purple, between the canopy poles of an uncountable crush of litters, he saw a wall hung with ribbons and banners that he took to be the end of the boulevard. But as the Acoma party drew closer, his eyes widened in amazement. The barrier was no wall but a segment of the Grand Imperial Stadium....The amphitheatre, was vast, far larger than anything he might have imagined. The litters, soldiers, and commoners on foot poured up a broad flight of steps, then across a concourse to a second flight. At the top lay yet another concourse, and beyond that the entrance to the stadium. As Mara's litter began the ascent, Kevin looked to either side and judged there must be at least another dozen entrances from the palace quarter alone....Beyond the highest stair arose a stone arch two hundred feet across. Kevin tried to calculate the size of the arena beyond, and failed. The tiers of open-air seats must hold a hundred thousand spectators, and no amphitheatre in the Kingdom could compare....Lujan led the way into a corridor to the left of the archway. A hundred or more rows of seats rose above the level upon which Mara's party moved, while another fifty rows descended toward the arena floor. To the left, two areas stood cordoned off, one of them dominated by a box adorned in lacquerworked gold and imperial white. The other section was bare of any decoration but was immediately noticeable by contrast. The occupants all wore black robes....Beyond the sunlit sands, lesser relations and servants were drifting into the boxes that would shortly hold the dominant Lords of the Empire. From the small size of their honour guards, none closer than a distant cousin had yet put in an appearance. The description goes on, throughout pretty much the whole scene, and is multi-purpose. Basically the opposite of what Green does. quote:“This place is a madhouse,” Rion said, his near shout reaching only the five of them. “And it looks like we’re the last to arrive.” Why are we finally getting good description of a minor character in the final chapters of book THREE? Also, brace yourselves. Moralizing is about to happen. quote:“It’s certainly about time that you got here,” he began without preamble, the petulance in his tone clear despite all the noise. “You were specifically instructed to arrive early, and—” Not-spoilers: nothing will come of this. How to Blend will remain a secret until the sequel trilogy. quote:And wasn’t that interesting about Eltrina? No wonder she’s so bent out of shape.” I hate this continued character assassination of Eltrina. Eltrina deserves better than this. Also this entire chapter is just a string of terrible transitions between boring scenes. quote:Lorand glanced around casually, and spotted a young man strolling in their direction. His attitude screamed to the world that he was a noble, and one who considered himself really important, at that. Just what they needed in that madhouse, someone else to rub badly against their nervousness… Who, exactly, did you expect as an alternative? Also I flat out hate how every single noble character is just a carbon copy of the one flimsy cardboard cutout character, except Rion because Rion is Not Like Other Nobles spoilers for chapter 47 because he's really Not A Noble. quote:“Well, it seems that you people were abandoned,” the young man said lightly when he reached them. “I’m Lord Ophin Ruhl, and I’ve been asked to direct you to the place where you’ll wait for things to begin. By the bye, do you happen to know where Lord Twimmal has gone? He surprised us by disappearing like that.” I refuse to believe Ophin has NOT been trained by his father, High Lord Embisson Ruhl, to be perfectly capable of dealing with Tamrissa's amateur attempts at upsetting people using her bimbo schtick. Green's favorite thing to do to make her protagonists more awesome is to make every other character around them less competent. quote:They were led across the wide floor and through the crowds to the door in the righthand wall, and once they passed through it the noise level dropped abruptly. They’d entered a lamplit corridor of some sort, and Lord Ophin walked almost to the end of it before throwing open a door. "Of some sort"??? We've flown off the top of the pyramid of abstraction now and we're just soaring through the clouds. quote:“This is the apartment where you’ll wait to be called,” he said, gesturing them in past him. “Your robes will be brought to you in just a few moments, and you’re to get into them as quickly as possible. Oh, yes, and ladies, no petticoats, please. You’ll all be furnished with undergarments and sandals as well, and they’re the only things to be worn with the robes. Tea and snack cakes have been provided, and if you require anything else, speak to the person who brings your robes. Good luck, and I’ll certainly see you later.” The robes are fine. The requirement to change underwear is weird as hell. It is also Significant and you're going to die of laughter when you find out why. quote:And with that he strode away, obviously intent on putting enough distance between them that Tamrissa would find it impossible to ask any more questions. Lorand discovered that he wasn’t the only one chuckling as he walked into the room to look around. "Tee hee, isn't Tamrissa so brilliant and clever and funny?" quote:Vallant had entered first, and now he returned to close the door behind all of them. Green: "Here, have a cursory reminder that I have now flipped the switch to Vallant's situationally plot convenient claustrophobia to 'ON'." quote:“If it becomes necessary, Rion and I will help you,” Lorand told him simply. He’d tried to imagine what Vallant usually went through in small, enclosed places, and hadn’t been able to do it. His favorite place as a boy had been small and close and almost airless. Picturing that safe and cozy place as a trap to be escaped from was completely beyond Lorand. Green: "Obligatory reminder that my protagonists are real bros who have got Vallant's back even though they have literally not had any character relationship building moments together since they all went to get their rocks off at Ginge's tavern back in the first third of Book 1 and Rion at one point was seriously considering murdering the other two." quote:“At least this room is big, and there’s another one just like it through this door,” Tamrissa reported from the left, where she peered through the door she’d mentioned. “It has a narrow, lumpy-looking couch instead of those chairs, but it’s just as big. And there’s a far door that probably leads to privacy facilities.” This couch gets more specific words of description devoted to it than the ampitheatre. quote:“All the comforts of home,” Jovvi remarked dryly, stopping in front of the large tea service. “Lorand, can you tell if they’ve done anything to the snack cakes and tea? I’ll be happier if we can save our own supplies for later.” TEA. quote:“They seem to be against taking any chances at all,” Lorand replied after a brief moment of examining the cakes. “There’s something mixed in with the other ingredients that looks an awful lot like headache powder. You know, the kind that relaxes you enough to relieve your headache? It’s not enough to really incapacitate any of us, but it’s still there.” Green: "HEY LOOK AT MY PROTAGONISTS BEING SMART!" I guess I have to give her credit here for a pay-off on the set-up for tampered food and drink. But this whole deal with "the food and drink have been tampered with" is going to become a stupid running gag throughout the whole serieses that I have to add a counter for it. Green seems incapable of thinking of any alternative stratagems in her plot. quote:“Just under two hours,” Jovvi told her after consulting a small pocket watch. “We ought to be able to survive that length of time without food or drink, so our supplies will be conserved anyway. I wonder how long it will be before they bring those robes. Changing our clothes will fill some of the time.” OMG seriously, we're getting MORE WORDS ABOUT THEM WAITING IN A FREAKING WAITING ROOM where NOTHING IS HAPPENING! A scene of people waiting can be interesting! But stuff needs to happen between the characters to make this interesting! Why are we not having more of a character moment between these five? Functionally in the plot, this is the calm before the storm of an arena battle to the death in order to become the next rightful rulers of the Empire. THIS SHOULD BE MORE INTERESTING TO READ ABOUT. quote:By the time a knock at the door brought two servants into the room, Lorand had thought of a possible reason for the over-thoroughness of the nobles’ preparations. The drug they’d been given could well be a last resort, to be used only if everything else failed. But that would hardly do for the group meant to face their chosen Blending. The nobles would want to be very sure of their opponents, so a visit from someone with orders ought to confirm the group’s guess that they were indeed the ones… Ding ding ding, penny's finally dropped for Lorand. The Puredan they were doused with back at the beginning of Book 1 is finally going to pay-off. Except instead of cutting straight to this moment of conflict and tension, we're going to spend some more word count on nothing. (who am I kidding, there is no tension, we have had zero competent antagonists show up so nobody is going to notice that they've slipped their conditioning) quote:Except for size, the white robes and accompanying white sandals were absolutely identical. The undergarments were slightly smaller robes made of silk, and felt cool and wonderful against the skin. Lorand had expected that Tamrissa at least would go into the other room to change, but all sense of embarrassment seemed to have left the girl. She changed with as little fuss as everyone else, and when they were through they examined each other. This is a weird-for-Green abbreviation that normally doesn't happen. Usually she'd be spending a lot of words to connect the dots explicitly. quote:“That means if we do get a visitor, we have to be sure to link up,” Rion said then. “If the drug still held us we’d respond at precisely the same time, which linking will let us do without draining us.” OMFG. THIS PROSE. WHY. Also note that Rion refers to this surface Blending state simply as "linking". Which anybody with any aspect can do. We will NEVER see any discussion or contemplation of how this surface Blending state is different to linking up with like aspect talents. FML. This is the biggest world building inconsistency ever. quote:Another knock came at the door, and when Lorand went to open it he found the man who had been standing next to Eltrina Razas, waiting patiently. Do it! What are they gonna do? Bash down the door? Hah! quote:but that was just a fleeting whim. It would do no good at all to put off what the nobles intended to make unavoidable, so Lorand simply nodded and then stepped back to allow Lord Simin entrance. Behold, the one time that they're going to use surface Blending at all. quote:“Now that’s a good deal better,” Lord Simin said without the burbling, suddenly looking like an entirely different man. “You filthy little nothings imagined that you were getting away with not giving me the respect you owe to all your betters, but you were mistaken. Right now I have orders for you, and after you carry them out we’ll see to your punishment for insolence. If you’re still alive, that is.” Sigh. quote:*Nice of him to tell us that our opponents will be out for blood,* their Jovvi part sent while Simin chuckled nastily. *Let’s see what else he lets slip.* Double sigh. quote:“The most important command that I have for you is that you’re to understand you’re no match for the noble group you’ll be facing,” Simin continued. “You will keep up the pretense of being ready to contend with everything you have, but on the inside each of you will know and believe that defeat is all there is in store for you. In point of fact you will assist in your own defeat, but not in any obvious way. The victory of your opponents is to appear as nothing but superior ability. Is all that clear?” I still have NO IDEA how the hell this is supposed to pass as convincing. Elemental magic isn't exactly a complicated thing, and like 80% of the general populace is talented, CAN TOUCH THE POWER AND VERIFY HOW STRONG PEOPLE ARE IN RELATIVE TERMS and THE ENTIRE MAGIC SYSTEM HAS BEEN SET UP WITH STRENGTH BEING THE BE-ALL AND END-ALL WITH HARDLY ANY SKILL COMPONENT omfg I hate this so much. quote:“At your command, my lord,” Lorand said with the rest of the link, almost contributing to a chant. Simin’s expression lightened, and he laughed with clear enjoyment. The trend of nobody from the nobility having or using Spirit magic continues. Also I guess micro-expressions aren't a thing in this world; because with the play-acting abilities of our protagonists being non-existent, micro-expressions for sure should be slipping through. quote:“That’s my good little peasants,” Simin drawled. “You’ll obey me now, and later—if there is a later for you—you will obey me once more without question and without needing to be keyed again. This mind control programming logic is pervasive in all of Green's works. And stuff like this should be happening across the board every time somebody is given Puredan! I can't see how any minion of the testing authority would be able to resist adding in their own back doors into all of the people they are supposed to brainwash, just like Simin has done here. Of course, none of this will come into play. Ever. quote:And now you have my permission to return to the way you were … and so I’d like to thank you for giving me this opportunity. Now I’ll wish you good luck in your attempt, and leave you alone to rest and relax.” This should be hella suspicious. For anyone who was still drugged, it would have seemed like Simin came in, looked at them, said three sentences of nothing and then left. This is so uncharacteristic of all nobility that if you weren't suspicious before, you should be suspicious now. And another thing. Puredan and Spirit magic commands work basically the same way and spoilers for the next book Spirit magic can be used to strip away these commands so how has this gone unnoticed by any High with Spirit magic? quote:“The fool isn’t even standing outside the door to hear whatever we might decide to talk about,” he reported. “His trace and life signs are strolling away back toward that open area, and in another moment or two he should be completely gone… There. He just went through the door.” I don't know why Lorand alone is bothering with monitoring this. Everybody has their own version of magical radar by now. quote:“I’d say that that answers our question about which of our groups will be facing their darlings,” Jovvi said with a shake of her head. “If they were going to do the same to every group, he would never have come directly here and then left in the same way. Tomorrow will probably be another story, but today the privilege is ours alone.” Is anyone feeling the slightest hint of suspense? Anyone at all? quote:“I suggest we pretend that he never visited us,” Tamrissa said, her extreme annoyance still clear in Lorand’s memory of the link. “The pretense will keep them guessing about what went wrong, and may even serve to get that useless garbage exactly what he deserves. If they think their plans are in ruins because of him, they may actually end him before they find out any better.” Way to be full of yourself Tamrissa. If there was any hint of suspense, it's now gone. They are fully confident in their ability to defeat Adriari's Blending, we know that Blending is full of Middles thanks to the Seated High sham challenges, ugh, is there any reason whatsoever to actually read the next chapter? quote:“I’d enjoy seein’ that,” Vallant commented, his light eyes looking very cold to Lorand. “There are men who are my superior in any number of ways, but none of them simply because he said so. We will never see Vallant admitting to any man being his superior, though I think he does, at one point, admit Rion and Lorand to be his equals. quote:We’ve got to do somethin’ about gettin’ rid of those parasites.” Green has given up all pretense that they might not win the competitions. Even her protagonists have stopped pretending that they don't already know that they're the strongest talents ever. quote:“Right now we need to relax, so let’s sit down and do it the way I taught you. We’ll all be forcing ourselves to relax, but we’ll gather ten times the strength we use to accomplish it. With me, now. One, two, three…” Uh what? I can't parse this meditation instruction at all. I had to read this several times to figure out that Green means Jovvi is saying that they'll be using up a part of their strength (as in, mana reserves? Mental reserves? Wakefulness? I have no idea because this hasn't been specified enough other than...they are very tired and hungry after extreme magical exertion) but that relaxing is somehow going to make them ten times stronger? Why does this book make no sense? quote:Lorand pushed aside thoughts of getting even and made himself join the effort to relax, but only because it was necessary. Once they won—and they would win—they’d go back to the topic of getting rid of parasites, and then they’d find the best way to accomplish it. That was something to really look forward to, almost as much as actually winning… you are all terrible people and in a story with consistent characterization and world building you would be setting up an equally terrible regime. Summary: Day 19 Our commoner protagonists and noble antagonists alike get stuck in a traffic jam en route to the amphitheatre that will be a Significant Location on par with the Palace and is not described anywhere as effectively as the palace was (which, if you've forgotten, was "big" and had a "verandah"). The Advisors switch around the matches as a last minute "favor" to Delin and co, for the dumb reason of not wanting Delin to die because they want to make an example of him for the various murders. Our protagonists spend the whole chapter waiting around and changing into their competitions robes and underwear and not eating the contaminated food. Lord Simin shows up and commands them to throw the match. Once the noble leaves, our protagonists spend the rest of their waiting time being general, arrogant know-it-alls who are gleefully crowing about their victory and making plans on how they are going to reform the Empire, because they are the smartest and bestest people ever and Lord Simin is a clueless idiot who has no idea that they have broken free from their Puredan conditioning. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 47 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis, Glindil TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 28 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park, the amphitheatre MEALS ON-SCREEN: 30 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 23 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 32 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending), Simin Dolf Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 104 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 52 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 18 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 33 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 83 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 55 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 64 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 34 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 18 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 12, including 2 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) DON'T EAT THAT: 1 (1 in Book 3) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: The way Green has set up the plot to unfold leaves zero tension about what's going to happen next. I remain confused about how Green seems to understand the need to pay-off on earlier promises yet delivers the pay-offs so flatly. Perhaps it's to do with how there are no consequences, ever? It's the feeling of watching someone who is bad at improv do the thing where no matter what kind of conflict or tension their improv partner tries to introduce, they immediately swerve out of anything bad happening to their character. The end of this book feels like a foregone conclusion at this point and Green KNOWS it. Spoilers for the end of this book: and clearly, she's like oh no, that's a huge issue! Quick I need to find a way to make a plot twist happen! So yeah, the ending is subverted, they're about to win and end of losing because...THEIR TESTING AUTHORITY ISSUED UNDERWEAR IS LACED WITH SLEEP DRUGS. FFS, the plotting in this book is bad. Leng posted:This entire book should have just been 50% magical arena battles, 25% magical intelligence gathering on your next match and 25% conspiracy stuff. Instead, I think we got 50% relationship drama, 25% terrible sex/rape scenes and 25% exposition that had to be conveyed via meeting info dumps because too many words had been used up on relationship drama and sex/rape scenes. And how you would do the actual plot twist is have this plotline weaving throughout all the tournament rounds:
But at least there would be SUSPENSE during the narrative! I am currently struggling with the tournament arc in my own novel. The biggest flaw at the moment is needing to link the tournament plot to wider stakes. I am just so frustrated seeing Green have the makings of a perfectly satisfying story here and screwing up every single aspect. UGH.
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Read through this thread, read through some of the series-only the bits about the villain blending because it's SO BORING-and I think my biggest takeaway is that I've seen 'good character accidentally in a bad story' syndrome before but Kambil Arstin takes it to a new level, holy poo poo. Pretty much all of the villain blending except Bron have a hell of a lot more character and interesting hooks than our flawless heroes, but Kambil is like...genuinely almost good! So many cool antagonist ideas! Grami is even cooler! If they'd been in an actually decent series... Also, I like Delin quite a bit. He's not, like, okay like Kambil is but he's a murder failboat trash fire and I find that endearing/amusing and also more interesting than any of Our Flawless Heroes except maybe Rion, who gets steadily less interesting.
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Are you guys ready for the biggest letdown ever?quote:CHAPTER FORTY-FOUR Jovvi's "I'm being overwhelmed by strong emotions coming from other people" is as situationally convenient as Vallant's claustrophobia. quote:If she intended to uphold her corner of the Blending, she needed the strength generated by relaxation even more than her groupmates. This would have been a fun little way to make the upcoming battle more interesting! quote:She forced herself to slide into it after them, and— I don't know why Green decided suddenly that Our Protagonists do meditation. Prior to this, Jovvi was the only one who did any of it, and it came completely out of left field. quote:Simin had done them a favor by coming around so soon after the robes had been delivered. More words devoted to a completely unimportant character. I would rather have internal monologuing on anything else. quote:“All right, people, it’s time to go out there,” the young lord Ophin Ruhl announced when Lorand opened the door. “Follow me, please, and be certain you don’t dawdle. Tradition insists that the competitions begin precisely at noon.” I...what? How does it take half an hour to get everybody out onto the sand? I guess this amphitheatre really is "big". quote:She exchanged glances with the others as they all followed the idiot noble, relieved that no one seemed prepared to make an issue of it. Especially Tamma, who had pushed things a bit too hard for Jovvi’s complete peace of mind… Tamrissa did nothing of the sort. quote:But leaving the apartment and reentering the very large gathering area erased all thoughts of other things. Two other groups in white were entering from the opposite side, and with the two already there and waiting they totaled the necessary five. It was actually getting ready to begin, and Jovvi knew that if she’d had to perform on her own, she never would have been able to do it. Her balance was tipping wildly between excitement and apprehension, and only the comforting presence of the others kept her from doing something ridiculous, like screaming at the top of her lungs. No, please, scream at the top of your lungs! That would be way more interesting! quote:“All right, people, I’m now supposed to tell you how you’ll be arranged,” Ophin said when they reached him where he’d stopped. Others like him, all wearing white scarves as armbands, were speaking to the other groups as well. “It’s been decided by the coin toss that your groups will be positioned out there first, and then your opponents will be placed opposite you. Please remember to keep your hoods on at all times, as the sun at this time of day can be extremely draining. Now we can get into line.” There is going to be badly done introspection later about these details. quote:“I feel odd walking around without petticoats,” Tamma murmured as they took their places at the end of the line. “I feel as if I’m in a wrap and on my way to the bath house.” Obligatory mention of baths and bath houses! quote:“We’re probably heading for hot water at that,” Jovvi murmured back, watching the first group being led out the wide doors which had been opened on the arena side. “If there’s a delay in bringing out our opponents, guess who will be stuck out there in the sun.” ... quote:You know, I’m glad we decided to bring two flasks each. They balance each other nicely where they’re hung under my robes.” even is this? Why are we talking about how many water bottles they each decided to bring and why for the love of the Highest Aspect is Tamrissa even talking about how she's carrying them?! I am so confused guys. quote:Jovvi nodded with a sigh, feeling the same not only about the flasks. Tamma was right about not letting the nobility get away with any more nonsense, but the entire situation touched Jovvi badly. There were pitfalls all around them, and if they happened to stumble into the wrong one… Green: "A reminder that you are supposed to be super worried about this. Please be worried for Our Protagonists, even though I totally failed in setting up the stakes and anyone who was paying the slightest attention while reading already knows they're gonna win." quote:The line moved fairly rapidly, and from the very first it was possible to hear the cheering and shouting of the people in the tiers. The noise they made was more than deafening; it was possible to feel their vocal excitement vibrating in your bones, and Jovvi knew she wasn’t the only one experiencing that. Everyone seemed to be rubbing their ears or shaking their heads sharply, not to mention rubbing their arms. This is probably the best description Green has done in the whole series; for a moment I was honestly expecting her to leave it at "the crowd was very loud". quote:Jovvi and the others—and their escorting noble—plodded heavily across the scattering of gray sand, but every step they took proved easier than the one before. Getting farther out into the open was helping, but then Jovvi noticed that the sand was getting deeper. Not too deep to keep them from walking across it easily, but deep enough to cover the ground thoroughly. They were led to a place at least thirty feet away from the next nearest group, Ophin wished them good luck, and then they were left on their own. Only 30 feet (9.14m)? If you assume the groups are equally spaced out, that's like 200 feet (~60m) in one dimension. Um. This sounds like a very small arena. quote:“I hadn’t realized how huge this place is,” Lorand said as he surreptitiously looked around. “No wonder we can barely hear ourselves thinking. There must be ten thousand people out there.” I know I'm projecting my modern day ideas about scale onto a regency fantasy world, but this does not sound that big at all? Though I guess if my calculations here were correct, then if your total population for the Empire is 200,000 people, then yeah, okay, an arena for 10,000 people sounds big. quote:“I’d estimate more than that,” Rion said, also looking about in the same way. “And I would also guess that more than five pairs of Blendings are meant to compete here, but they’ve spread us out to disguise that fact. It’s likely that the number of contenders now depends upon how many Blendings my former peers are able to muster.” Foreshadowing. quote:“So that’s the reason they do all these things, not an excuse for it,” Tamma said, just as dryly as well as impatiently. “If you can’t do the job, you’re supposed to get out of the way of someone else who can, but these … these … bloodsuckers refuse to let go. They intend to hang on just as long as they possibly can, and if they aren’t stopped now they just might accomplish their aim forever—or until there are none of them left.” I suppose the Fire magic being boosted by anger trope was not as overdone back then as it is now. quote:“And speak of the aspect, here comes the first of our opponents. Now it looks as though they had our side come out first because of the noise. Why subject their people to all that cheering and yelling, when sending them out second spares them?” What? What kind of death match spectacle is this? quote:Jovvi joined everyone else in watching the opposing groups take their places, a good thirty feet away from the first arrivals. That still left a lot of unused room in the amphitheater arena, but some of it was used at least for a short time. because this matters right now...how??!!??!?! quote:A small group came out to stand in the very center of the area, one of the men stepping out to stand in front of the others. Yo, Zolind! quote:“When that moment arrives, the giant torches on two sides of this arena will be ignited at the same time. That will be the signal to begin, and we wish all our brave competitors the best of luck.” ...why exactly did he need an entourage to walk out there? quote:There was also a growing murmur of excitement, despite the fact that most people seemed to have no idea about who had spoken. Jovvi didn’t know either, but Rion’s surprise took her attention. Before you get excited about the possible of seeing a REAL Littlefinger-esque puppeteer in the plot, have some not-spoilers: Zolind will turn out to be just as illogical and incompetent as the rest of the antagonists. quote:“Well, at least she and I agree on that one point,” Jovvi said, watching Advisor Zolind disappear under the tiers on the opposite side of the amphitheater. “I’ve never believed in forgiving a snub either, but that isn’t very important right now. Those torches ought to be set off any moment, so we’d better prepare ourselves.” The magical combat that follows from this point is so stupid, I can't even. quote:But the entity had no body, nothing more than the five forms of flesh left behind when it emerged. It gloried in being whole and free again, felt delighted that it would no longer be held back—and then two things happened at once. The first was a double burst of flame shooting up from two places at the top of the amphitheater, and the second was an immediate attack by the entity formed of the beings thirty feet away. Oh look. We're going to get the entire battle from a detached entity viewpoint. Yay. quote:But observation and theorizing also did nothing to keep the entity from responding. The part of itself that was ever on guard had thrown up a shield against the flames, and now thirsted to attack in turn. Attack was also the entity’s desire, of course, but curiosity held it back. This direct enemy had been presented as the best of all the enemy entities, and the entity wished to know exactly how it was best. That's...3 out of 5 talents. quote:The enemy responded to each of the moves, but so slowly and awkwardly that it might as well not have bothered. It was then that the entity realized the truth: the enemy wasn’t being cautious, it merely had very little strength to use. It also seemed less than adequately Blended, another flaw it had no hope of overcoming. The only thing we know about Adriari's group is that there are more women than men. Is this supposed to tell us that the sex mechanic doesn't work so well in this proportion??? quote:Those were the answers, then, the entity thought. The enemy couldn’t possibly be the best in any group, therefore those who believed the lie were sadly misguided and mistaken. It was now necessary to correct the error in apprehension, and in a way that would leave no doubt of the truth. I'm disappointed that Spirit magic does not feature here at all, beyond initiating Blending. Is this because Spirit magic can't affect entities? Who knows? quote:The entity watched dispassionately as its enemy became no more, and a trace of disgusted annoyance fleeted through it. Those inadequate forms should never have been set against it, not when it was so much stronger and more able. They had been sacrificed for no purpose, soiling the entity by turning it into an executioner. The sense of dishonor and anger was intense… You people are the worst. quote:“Look,” Tamma said quietly, surprise rippling her own anger. “I’d say we aren’t the only ones who were set against inadequate opponents.” I can't help thinking that death sports ought to have a much bigger impact on the culture of this Empire if Green wants this kind of ending to land. As it is, this chapter makes me feel like a Roman gladiator mass battle has been dropped into the middle of a bad regency romance. Summary: Day 19 Our commoner protagonists and noble antagonists alike get stuck in a traffic jam en route to the amphitheatre that will be a Significant Location on par with the Palace and is not described anywhere as effectively as the palace was (which, if you've forgotten, was "big" and had a "verandah"). The Advisors switch around the matches as a last minute "favor" to Delin and co, for the dumb reason of not wanting Delin to die because they want to make an example of him for the various murders. Our protagonists spend the whole chapter waiting around and changing into their competitions robes and underwear and not eating the contaminated food. Lord Simin shows up and commands them to throw the match. Once the noble leaves, our protagonists spend the rest of their waiting time being general, arrogant know-it-alls who are gleefully crowing about their victory and making plans on how they are going to reform the Empire, because they are the smartest and bestest people ever and Lord Simin is a clueless idiot who has no idea that they have broken free from their Puredan conditioning. Our Heroes walk out into the arena and annihilate their opponents, and so do three other common Blendings; only one noble Blending (guess who?) wins their match. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 47 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis, Glindil TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 28 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park, the amphitheatre MEALS ON-SCREEN: 30 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 23 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 32 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending), Simin Dolf Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 104 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 52 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 18 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 33 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 86 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 56 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 64 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 34 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 18 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 12, including 2 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) DON'T EAT THAT: 1 (1 in Book 3) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: It's this chapter that really makes the weirdness of the entity viewpoints stand out. The jumping in and out of entity viewpoints is...fine, I guess, because it's always preceded by and followed with a clear signal of when Blending starts and ends. I'm not a fan of the entity viewpoints themselves though, because every entity has the exact same detached voice. Also spoilers for the sequel trilogy eventually when you progress far enough to the ideal Blending state, the detached entity viewpoint goes away and you start experiencing Blending from your POV—initially as an observer, then as someone whose actions can steer the entity's actions, then with full control. Bizarrely in all these later states, everyone simultaneously experiences it from their own individual perspective, until eventually you reach the state of full Blending, which is just...being yourself and able to use all six talents without going into a trance state. So with that in mind, I don't understand what Green is trying to achieve here with this detached entity viewpoint. I think what would have been a REALLY interesting narrative technique to explore here is constant POV slippage whenever they are Blended early on, since they're still getting used to this mind meld thing so it would make sense that the different personalities clash with each other, with different individuals wrestling for control, instead of these weird arbitrary impersonal entities doing things like robots. Or, you know, maybe the entities are a vehicle for spirits from an alternative plane of existence to enter the world, and that's why the entities act so weird compared to the characters who comprise them. That would be interesting too. Basically anything other than what Green has done would be more interesting! And it wouldn't suck all of the tension out of a climax point in the plot. Leng fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Feb 22, 2022 |
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Leng posted:Are you guys ready for the biggest letdown ever? Wow so my first reaction was, “that was over quick! ” But there has to be a twist coming in the next chapter? (I have not read the books.) I really hope the sixth commoner blending is in play here and the chosen noble blending isn’t even IN the competition right now. That’s the point of the robes, right, it has to be. So our heroes just dispassionately murdered another group of commoners and will be reeling from this in the near future, and that’s why this is written this way? Please tell me this opportunity isn’t completely squandered.
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kaom posted:Wow so my first reaction was, “that was over quick! ” But there has to be a twist coming in the next chapter? (I have not read the books.) Search your feelings. If I remember correctly, the next book starts off with even more of an anticlimax.
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kaom posted:Please tell me this opportunity isn’t completely squandered. Liquid Communism posted:If I remember correctly, the next book starts off with even more of an anticlimax. Weeeelllllll strictly speaking it's a lot better than where books 2 and 3 have started since Green actually ended this book somewhat properly?
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quote:CHAPTER FORTY-FIVE I'd say that the character assassination continues but I'm starting to believe that Green is aware of only one type of anger (the toddler variety). Up until this point, I'd been picturing Embisson as the kind of guy who goes super cold when enraged. quote:of course, most of whom were pale and unsteady. As was to be expected… If this is the only thing propping up your corrupt regime, how do you not have contingency upon contingency for things that can go wrong? Risk management 101 here. quote:“Then your only other option is to back our group,” Kambil put in with light friendliness, drawing everyone’s immediate attention. “We do happen to be the only noble Blending remaining, but as long as we survive, all is far from lost.” ...is that canon confirmation that ALL the noble Blendings are magically weaker because of poor selecting breeding decisions? Way to undermine the tension and stakes even more. quote:“Possibly it was because our opponents were so poor,” Kambil replied with a shrug of innocence that made Delin want to laugh. “They were barely able to Blend, and we had the distinct impression that they hadn’t practiced much, if at all. Their strength was certainly adequate, but they had no idea what to do with it.” I'm kind of confused. What we saw didn't include any use of skill whatsoever. Open to power. Blend. Send crazy amounts of fire/water/sand/hardened air at opponents. Done! quote:“Whereas you knew exactly what to do with yours,” Zolind responded flatly, Which is why this whole "training" thing doesn't make sense when you don't want people to be trained! The latest trending booktuber bandwagon is jumping on authortuber Jenna Moreci's self-published books, The Savior's Champion and The Savior's Sister. Unresolved Textual Tension has done the best analysis so far (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0tUiE1v650 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIc4wdbzcgY). Moreci is accused of a lot of plot holes and things that don't make sense. I have not read these books myself, apart from the sample chapters. But just based on those sample chapters alone, I can confirm that Moreci is a far more competent writer than Green is AND even the stuff that doesn't makes sense per the booktuber videos...makes WAY more sense than anything in the Blending books. quote:the expression in his eyes one of extreme unhappiness. “I now recall that your opponents were changed at the last moment, How does someone who is politically savvy forget important details like this? HOW?????!??!?!?!? quote:as a … favor to one of your number. We seem to have done you a larger favor than was intended, which means you may be correct about the options at my disposal. In any event our general plan has to be changed now, Look, the incompetence extends to the very heights of the corrupt regime! But it's okay, because that is the whole point of Green's thesis behind these books, so the lack of any competent/convincing antagonists is the ENTIRE POINT, you see. quote:and it must be done quickly. If we try to delay tomorrow’s competitions, that rabble out there will tear the city apart.” Write this story instead. quote:“My Lord Embisson!” a different voice came, and Delin looked around to see Lord Simin Dolf hurrying over—with an escort. From the pallor on Dolf’s face, it was clear that he’d never have come without the escort. Green: "It's been a while since I've shown an antagonist doing (improper) sex things so have a passing reference to it." quote:The next thing I knew I was being accosted by these … these … glorified guardsmen, and dragged to this side of the amphitheater. I don’t know why, but … where are the rest of our Blendings?” Want to guess who Simin was hooking up with? quote:“No, my lord, please, that isn’t so!” Dolf interrupted with bottomless desperation, now actually wringing his hands. “I keyed the peasants personally, not just the ones who would be facing the chosen Blending, but also a second group decided on at random! They all responded properly, so I know it worked! If only you guys didn't keep the quote:If something happened after that, it can’t possibly be considered my fault!” Uh, you see, there's this thing called SPIRIT MAGIC and Kambil, a Spirit magic adept, is standing RIGHT HERE. I mean, he's obviously biased but there's also EARTH MAGIC. Are you telling me with all of the lackeys standing around there aren't any Spirit and Earth magic practitioners among them? (Green: "Yes, totally, that's what you're meant to take away from this, because the lack of talent in the nobility is A Thing, not because I forgot my own world building") quote:Well, Lord Simin, you wanted this position so badly that you had your brother pull strings and reclaim favors, so now you have it—along with the responsibility for its failure. Take this man away, and make sure that I never lay eyes on him again.” Again with the grown adults screaming. I should have started a scream counter. quote:Delin exchanged a glance with Kambil, both of them knowing they had to talk privately. The peasants facing Adriari’s group had obviously found a way to make use of the keying phrase Delin had sent them, but had they actually been so stupid as to share the information with their fellow peasants…? Actually, it's very smart of them to do so. They hate the nobility more than they hate each other so sharing information totally makes sense. And it paid off! The rest of the common Blendings just took out the majority of the noble competition. I hate how Green intentionally writes all of her supposedly smart antagonists with this singular giant blind spot. The other one is male antagonists dismissing women. quote:“All right,” Advisor Zolind said once Dolf had been dragged away, once again capturing everyone’s immediate attention. “I’ve come to a decision but I warn you that it’s tentative, and it will remain so until I’m much more firmly convinced about this course of action. Your group and mine will have to have a long, serious talk this afternoon, but for the moment I’m prepared to make an offer.” Why, exactly, do they even need his approval? Because as far as we've seen, none of the ruling members of the nobility have any strength in talent to speak of, so Kambil could take over EVERYONE ELSE in this room, right now, and just make them all his obedient puppets. Or, you know, they could Blend and do the exact same thing, if Kambil happens to actually be tired from competing. quote:If Kambil had made any sort of flippant reply to that, Delin would certainly have killed him on the spot. Delin’s stomach was in so many knots that it was a miracle he could stand, and apparently the difficulty was shared, to some extent at least, by Kambil. The Spirit magic user retained his life by remaining silent, as did the others in the group, and Zolind nodded grudging approval. So Delin thinks he could kill Kambil, Bron, Homin and Selendi—who are all High talents and according to earlier information, would therefore be able to better withstand against his attack (though totally unclear how)—but he doesn't think of just...killing Zolind and everyone else here? Green, he's a murderous psychopath. How does this not cross Delin's mind right now? quote:“At least you’re wise enough to listen rather than talk,” the old man said. “That’s an encouraging sign, and will also be discussed between us later. For now, I tell you without guile that my support must be earned. You will be required to compete tomorrow as well as the following day, and not simply compete but triumph. Should you join your peers in death, my support will do you no good whatsoever.” Uh. So they really think Simin didn't key the groups? They didn't even contemplate that the command phrase might have been compromised? Because this sounds like Zolind was seriously debating whether or not to smooth Delin and co's way to victory by using the same command phrase that's already failed on their subsequent matches. This is also one of those chapters where I'm confused about whether or not we're supposed to be rooting for the antagonist Blending. Their POVs have been deliberately written so you know you're supposed to hate them, but then Green insists on putting in moments like this. Presumably to illustrate how despicable the nobility really is? I don't even know anymore. Here's a Brandon Sanderson antagonist POV from Words of Radiance, which is the second book of The Stormlight Archive. It's a long scene, so I'll excerpt it and indicate breaks with ellipses. I'll also spoiler a major plot point for book one: Torol Sadeas laced his fingers before himself, elbows on the fine stonework tabletop, as he stared at the Shardblade he'd thrust down through the center of the table. It reflected his face. Damnation. When had he gotten old? He imagined himself as a young man, in his twenties. Now he was fifty. Storming fifty. He set his jaw, looking at that Blade. Oathbringer. It was Dalinar's Shardblade—curved, like a back arching, with a hooklike tip on the end matched by a sequence of jutting serrations by the crossguard. Like waves in motion, peeking up from the ocean below. How often had he lusted for this weapon? Now it was his, but he found the posession hollow. Dalinar Kholin—driven mad by grief, broken to the point that battle frightened him—still clung to life. Sadeas's old friend was like a favored axehound he'd been forced to put down, only to find it whimpering at the window, the poison having not quite done its work. Worse, he couldn't shake the feeling that Dalinar had gotten the better of him somehow. The door to his sitting room opened, and Ialai slipped in. With a slender neck and a large mouth, his wife had never been described as a beauty—particularly as the years stretched long. He didn't care. Ialai was the most dangerous woman he knew. That was more attractive than any simple pretty face. ... "I'm not meant for this, love," Sadeas whispered. "This stupid game on the plateaus. It sated me at first, but I'm growing to loathe it. I want war, Ialai. Not hours of marching on the off chance that we'll find some little skirmish!" ... It was the only thing that made him feel alive any longer. That glorious, wonderful Thrill of being on the battlefield and striving, man against man. Of risking everything for the prize. Domination. Victory. It was the only time he felt like a youth again. It was a brutal truth. The best truths, however, were simple. ... "I will conquer this kingdom anew, and then Jah Keved will follow. After all, the purpose of this life is to train soldiers. In a way, I'm only doing what God himself wants." What a difference! Sadeas is pure awful and basically every reader hates him but his POV reads genuine to him as a character, without any authorial overlay of "LOOK AT THIS CHARACTER AND NOTE HOW EVIL THEY ARE! DID I MENTION THAT THEY ARE EVIL? HATE THEM. HATE THEM A LOT!" quote:“The point can’t be argued,” Kambil responded with a faint smile, “and your offer is fair. All things of value must be paid for, most often with something other than gold. Our group is prepared to make that payment, and we will be honored to join you for a discussion later today.” Pretty much, yeah. Why didn't you bring this up? Why wasn't this debated?! This should have been a way more interesting scene to read! quote:The way the peasants had swept the field had come as a great surprise to Delin and his group, but it had also been a delightful surprise. They were now the only nobly born contestants left, with no one of their own class to oppose them… You know they are the antagonists because they can't use Facts and Logic! quote:Delin began to whistle softly, a rollicking battle tune from many years earlier. The song celebrated complete success, and that made it completely fitting. Wait wait wait wait wait. A battle tune?! You can't just drop this in here! This is the laziest world building ever. quote:Nothing but lumpish peasants stood between them and the Fivefold Throne, and soon the peasants would be gone. quote:* * * ...so Green is just deliberately avoiding confrontation even with her antagonists now? quote:“Sir, do you really intend to support them?” Embisson Ruhl asked quietly, a tightness to the man’s voice. As a High Lord, Ruhl was close to a number of Zolind’s fellow Advisors, and tended to behave accordingly. Zolind, however, regarded the man differently, and felt it was time to show the fact. No, we will never discover why Zolind doesn't like Embisson. quote:“You dare to question one of my decisions?” he asked just as softly, turning to stare at Ruhl. “Just who do you imagine you are?” I refuse to believe that Embission, an experienced politician, is going to ask a question like this. quote:“And what a lucky thing that decision was,” Zolind muttered, turning again to send his hatred after Delin Moord. “If I weren’t here, you’d probably have ordered our last Blending executed for daring to survive their peers. I also refuse to believe that Embission would have been that stupid. He's going to be major character in the sequel trilogy and he is nowhere near this stupid. quote:I hate what I’m going to have to do, but at the moment there’s simply no other choice. I intend to do a good deal of deep thinking, and while I’m engaged with that, there’s something you must do.” Write this story instead! quote:“Yes, sir, this instant,” Ruhl acknowledged, then the man hurried off to do whatever it was that he’d decided on. He’d probably realized that his life depended on finding what Zolind wanted, but that incentive might not be enough if the man was an incompetent. Others would be sent out to search, others like Anglard Nobin, who never cared about who he caught, just so long as that person was guilty. OMFG write from Anglard's POV instead! Somebody good at detective stories write a fanfic spin-off featuring Anglard and Idian as his sidekick. quote:And, of course, Zolind hadn’t mentioned the best option he had about what to do with an unwanted winning Blending. Those robes all the contestants wore… No one was really able to see faces under the hoods, so it wasn’t possible for the rabble to tell one group of five people from another. Their last remaining Blending would do its best to win for them, and then, when they did, they would be replaced by five other people, ones who could be trusted to do as they were told. So why didn't you just do THIS in the first place? Why even bother with the song and dance and the Adriari show? quote:And ones who weren’t terribly strong, or practiced as a Blending. Those with strength too often reached the point of deciding to use it, usually against those who knew the proper way of running an empire, as they did not… So how about you DON'T TELL THEM HOW TO BLEND OMFG you've all but erased the knowledge of Blending from the Empire FFS. quote:The five people comprising the last Blending had disappeared from sight, but Zolind continued to stare after them. Ollon Kapmar had been more than simply Zolind’s good friend, and Zolind refused to rest until his murderer had paid for what he’d done. Which would hopefully be soon now, but not too soon to suit him… Just in case you didn't get the message! Yes really. The only major non-cishet relationship in the book is this one. Summary: Day 19 Our commoner protagonists and noble antagonists alike get stuck in a traffic jam en route to the amphitheatre that will be a Significant Location on par with the Palace and is not described anywhere as effectively as the palace was (which, if you've forgotten, was "big" and had a "verandah"). The Advisors switch around the matches as a last minute "favor" to Delin and co, for the dumb reason of not wanting Delin to die because they want to make an example of him for the various murders. Our protagonists spend the whole chapter waiting around and changing into their competitions robes and underwear and not eating the contaminated food. Lord Simin shows up and commands them to throw the match. Once the noble leaves, our protagonists spend the rest of their waiting time being general, arrogant know-it-alls who are gleefully crowing about their victory and making plans on how they are going to reform the Empire, because they are the smartest and bestest people ever and Lord Simin is a clueless idiot who has no idea that they have broken free from their Puredan conditioning. Our Heroes walk out into the arena and annihilate their opponents, and so do three other common Blendings; only one noble Blending (guess who?) wins their match. Kambil and co receive unofficial official backing from the Advisors due to being the only noble Blending remaining. High Lord Advisor Zolind suspects them of being the ones who caused Adriari's Blending's deaths and gives High Lord Embisson an ultimatum: find proof of Kambil and co's crimes, or else. Regardless of Embission's results, Zolind has zero intention of Seating Kambil and co: he's already planning their disappearance and replacement. Counts so far: NAMED ON-SCREEN CHARACTERS WHO WE'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN: 47 (24 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) Book 1: Mildon Coll, Phor Riven, Jeris Womal, Eldra Sappin, Fod, Lord Astrath, Torrin Ro, Vish "the Fish", Jamrin, Hark, Reshin, Fellar, Ennis, Vosin, Parli Hafford, Regensi, Weeks, Adept Aminto, Mem Follil, Toblis, Kogrin, Lemmis Admen, Miklas Book 2: Nialla, Emar Rumil, Leta Vas, Grami Arstin, Deever, Pracer, Oshin, Arnot, Morin, Rilin, Kinge, Lomad, Worlen, Lidim, Arkow, Odrin Book 3: Damilla Sytoss, Edril Lanton, Carmad Lestrin (minor spoiler - sorry, you're not going to see him again), Relana, Lord Anglard, Lord Fortner Oplis, Glindil TOTALLY INDISTINCT ON-SCREEN LOCATIONS: 28 (9 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) Book 1: Rincammon, Haven Wraithside, Tamrissa's house in Gan Garee, Port Entril, testing facility in Gan Garee, Regensi's shop, Ginge's tavern, Magross bridge, mastery facility outside Gan Garee Book 2: Nialla's house, Vas residence, Weil residence, Arstin residence in Gan Garee, dining parlor near Tamrissa's house, shop near dining parlor, Naran's "house", noble antagonists' residence, the Seated Five's palace, the ballroom inside the palace Book 3: a courtroom, an ampitheatre, Relana's house, Ollon Kapmar's house, Eltrina's house, a random noble's house, High Lord Embisson Ruhl's house, a random park, the amphitheatre MEALS ON-SCREEN: 30 (15 in Book 1; 9 in Book 2) Book 1: Day 1 (lunch, dinner), Day 2 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 3 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 4 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 5 (lunch, dinner), Day 6 (breakfast, lunch, dinner), Day 7 (post-mastery snack, dinner), Day 8 (breakfast, post-competition snack, dinner), Day 9 (breakfast, lunch, canapés at the masked reception at the palace), Day 10 (breakfast, dinner), Day 11 (lunch, dinner), Day 12 (breakfast x2) EUPHEMISMS FOR BODY PARTS/SEX ACTS: 23 (9 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) Male: <character name>'s body (x2), discomfort (x1), manhood (x1), desire (x3), renewed need (x1), large and hard, the most perfect of men (x1), dignity (x1), conflagration raging inside (1x), his privates (x1) Female: womanhood (x1), entrance of ultimate bliss (x1), desire (x2), incredible tunnel (x1), womanflesh (x1) Sex acts: merged/merged our essences (x4), shared themselves/sharing (x2), exercise (x1), entering/entered (x3), fuse their flesh (x1), physical love (x1) Orgasm: (ultimate) ecstasy (x2) TERMS OF ENDEARMENT: 19 (3 in Book 1; 13 in Book 2) Male: love (x4), my fleeting love (x1), my lord (x5), my beloved lord (x3) Female: sweet girl (x1), my sweet (x1), sweetling (x1), my love (x1), sweet lady (x1), precious lady (x1) ANTAGONISTS: 34 (11 introduced in Book 1; 20 introduced in Book 2) General: Unnamed Chairman/Ollon Kapmar (?) and the five Seated Highs in each aspect, Eltrina Razas, Bron Kallan, Selendi Vas, Homin Weil, Kambil Arstin, Delin Moord, group wearing gold and blue costumes at the ball (Adriari's Blending), Simin Dolf, Embisson Ruhl, Zolind Maylock Lorand: Eskin Drowd, Jovvi: Allestine and her henchmen Ark and Bar, Genovir, Algus Clarion: Hallina Mardimil, Eskin Drowd, Padril, Arnot Tamrissa: Storn and Avrina Torgar, Beldara Lant, Odrin Hallasser, Soonen, Gerdol, Lanir (who is the Seated High in Fire magic and he's just made it personal) Vallant: Mirra Agran and her parents, Wimand, Rilir PLOTHOLES: 113 (39 in Book 1; 23 in Book 2) COACH RIDES: 52 (21 in Book 1; 25 in Book 2) MEETINGS IN COACHES: 18 (4 in Book 1; 10 in Book 2) OTHER MEETINGS: 33 (3 in Book 1; 12 in Book 2) INTERRUPTED MONOLOGUING: 93 (31 in Book 1; 31 in Book 2) "CLIFFHANGERS": 58 (18 in Book 1; 16 in Book 2) POINTLESS TAMRISSA NARRATION: 14 (11 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) TEA DRINKING: 64 (22 in Book 1; 26 in Book 2) BLATANT MORALIZING: 34 (19 in Book 1; 5 in Book 2) BATH SCENES: 13 (9 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) WILFUL MISUNDERSTANDINGS: 9 (6 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) MIND CONTROL: 18 (5 in Book 1; 1 in Book 2) BADLY WRITTEN SEX SCENES: 12, including 2 rape scenes (2 in Book 1; 4 in Book 2, including 1 rape scene) DON'T EAT THAT: 1 (1 in Book 3) REPETITIVE POV EVENTS:
Possible fixes: Scrap the whole series. Write a new one, where:
t3isukone posted:Kambil is like...genuinely almost good! So many cool antagonist ideas! Grami is even cooler! If they'd been in an actually decent series... Now make Kambil and Delin and Selendi Lows as well and part of Adriari's secret Blending! We need a Water magic user to round out the lot, so I'm thinking you'd look to Book 6 and grab Kail and then Asri for Sight magic. SO MANY GOOD IDEAS and such terrible execution. WHY. Leng fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Feb 27, 2022 |
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Leng posted:
Perfect opportunity there to have her start out weak, and as such never really using the power because it just reminds her of that fact, only to rediscover the benefits of just seizing the power and never letting go... Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 03:38 on Mar 1, 2022 |
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