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fletcher posted:Saw this in IMAX last Friday and loved it. Apparently they don't check tickets at the movies anymore? You just walk right in and sit down. Only 4 people in the theater when I walked in, of course somebody was in my seat. Oh well, I sat a few seats over and the theater only got to like 10% occupancy anyways. Not like I was going to make a stink about my seat in a mostly empty theater. Yeah my area had what felt like a very short IMAX run and it was an incredible experience. By the time I convinced my group of friends to watch it the run was over and they were like "eh we'll just see it streaming" and I really do think this is the kind of movie you'll like less if you watch it on a tv while you fiddle about on your phone
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Inspector Gesicht posted:So, video game adaptations. Where could we go using only the official book canon (gently caress off Brian and KJA) and the new movies style and presentation? Baron von Eevl posted:FPS with melee combat elements for shielded enemies.
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 12:13 |
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Gimme a Dune dating sim Marry Chani? YES [ ] NO [ ]
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 12:58 |
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Betray the Duke to join your wife? Y/N
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 13:01 |
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Steve Yun posted:Gimme a Dune dating sim quote:Marry Chani?
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 13:24 |
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Oh my God. I just realized what was going on with Piter's "pet" and why it understands English. Jesus loving Christ. It's Yueh's wife...
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 13:52 |
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Hey now, marrying Chani wouldn't be a "But though must" option. After all, concubines are canon in-universe. gently caress Chani, marry the Emperor's daughter, kill the Baron. Wait, were we playing Marry/gently caress/Kill?
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:Oh my God. Didn't the spider have lots of arms? Shouldn't it be multiple people?
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:Yeah my area had what felt like a very short IMAX run and it was an incredible experience. By the time I convinced my group of friends to watch it the run was over and they were like "eh we'll just see it streaming" and I really do think this is the kind of movie you'll like less if you watch it on a tv while you fiddle about on your phone Any time there’s a sci fi movie I want to see, especially if it’s big budget, I feel like the only way to see it is in the theater. I don’t get why you’d want to watch it on your lap top or some poo poo
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Dr.Radical posted:Any time there’s a sci fi movie I want to see, especially if it’s big budget, I feel like the only way to see it is in the theater. I don’t get why you’d want to watch it on your lap top or some poo poo A big TV with good sound
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 14:06 |
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Yeah but why not a bigger screen with better sound?
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 14:07 |
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:Oh my God. That's an interpretation of it. The Baron's subsequent conversation with Yueh undercuts it somewhat, or at least I choose to believe so because
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 14:09 |
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Grandpa Palpatine posted:Oh my God. I really don't think that's the case. Yueh's motivations and end are almost exactly like they play out in the book, which is very clear that his wife is just being regular-ol-tortured and Yueh knows full well that the bargain ends in them both being killed, aka released from their agony. The only departure is that in the book Pieter stabs Yueh in the back, as opposed to the Baron killing him. The spider is there purely to drive the point home that the Harkonnens are truly hosed up.
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Collapsing Farts posted:A big TV with good sound I don't have £3,000 to spend on a home cinema setup (that still wouldn't come close to an actual cinema).
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Dr.Radical posted:Yeah but why not a bigger screen with better sound? Costs more and you gotta share the experience with people you dont know :o
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 14:24 |
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The spider is some sort of genetic fuckery, cuz it looks like multiple human parts stretched out and put together;
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 14:25 |
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It's really interesting how they took something small from the book like glowglobes following people around for illumination and extended that into these palatial spaces with no artificial light that's not on a character. Almost like the aristocracy in this 10,000 year old empire wander around in their own tombs. (Themes!) I would never have thought of that.
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Collapsing Farts posted:The spider is some sort of genetic fuckery, cuz it looks like multiple human parts stretched out and put together; yeah its probably some Tleilaxu thing
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 14:43 |
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I mean, for all we know, that spider-thing is actually native to the planet, or some Tleilaxian abomination. E:fb
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Arglebargle III posted:It's really interesting how they took something small from the book like glowglobes following people around for illumination and extended that into these palatial spaces with no artificial light that's not on a character. Almost like the aristocracy in this 10,000 year old empire wander around in their own tombs. (Themes!) I would never have thought of that. Yeah I'm looking forward to picking up more of this in the books, going to be my first time reading the series. Anything where the subtext is decline of civilizations is my jam, weird that I didn't get into it more as a teen but also probably for the best because now I know to leave the god awful books by the Herbert the Younger alone.
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 15:41 |
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That's kinda the main theme of God Emperor with a healthy dose of unreliable narrator, since it's told in the context of the emperor's personal archive that has been discovered in an archeological dig in a post- Imperial time period.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Dunc questions Arrakis is the sole source of spice. Spice is a drug that extends lifespan and gives some people precognitive powers. It's addictive, and withdrawal is lethal. Many of the richest aristocrats are addicted to spice. The Emperor and the Guild restrict access to Arrakis. The Spacing Guild has a monopoly on faster-than-light travel. After computers were outlawed, the Guild learned how to navigate FTL travel by training Navigators, who are marinated in spice until they become mutants. The Guild needs tons of spice, and if they go down, they take the entire galactic economy down with them. Everyone has spaceships, including warships, but only the Guild can move anything between systems. If you're planning something (like a war) that conflicts with their interests, they'll just set shipping rates so high you can't afford them. Even when they allow it, it's extremely expensive, which is another reason that assassination and commando operations are still important in a universe with spaceships and laser cannons. So understanding this, you can understand why the Atreides can't ship satellites and orbital defense batteries to Arrakis. Regarding infantry in Dune: in that scene in the film, the Atreides troops are trying to get to their ships. When that hope is gone, they retreat but get cut off by the Sardaukar paratroopers. The Imperial/Harkonnen/Guild conspiracy can't afford to just bomb the city flat because it's the only city on the only planet that produces spice. (Two cities in the book, but nevermind.) The resulting production crisis would also make the conspiracy difficult or impossible to conceal. To this end, they need to take the palace and confirm that their enemies are captured or killed. This stuff is why Dune is so hard to adapt. Every faction is interrelated and has complex motivations, big secrets, and knows some of the other factions' secrets but not all of them. And there are chess-like setups where they could do a thing, but it would expose a fatal weakness. Kurzon posted:How were the Harkonnens going to cover up the fact that the Emperor orchestrated the whole thing to eliminate the Atreides? There were Sardukar on Arrakis.
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 17:16 |
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Now that I think about book 2, dune Messiah, there's actually a lot of nuance to the politics after Paul wins and establishes the Atreides theocracy in place of the old secular imperium -Paul's Jihad of conquest kills 61 billion people and he himself is utterly disillusioned with his own empire and the ideology he built on a lie. He literally says he's worse than Hitler (yes lol) -Paul loses control over his own imperial cult of divinity (the Fremen would just say god is testing them even if he claims he isn't a god) -more and more power of the imperial throne passes to the Priest-Bureaucrats (the Qizarate) who actually run the empire (and eventually a rebelling faction within it is strong enough to drop a stone-burner on him) -He's facing a conspiracy from the remnants of the power players from the Corrino empire (the Bene gesserit, tleilaxu, Ix, guild, the Corrino themselves), who wants to overthrow him -said conspiracy is also allied to a conservative faction within the Fremen themselves, who oppose Paul for taking the terraforming project too fast -until end of book 2 lack of a clear heir and the closest thing to a heir he has is literally insane -The Empire was probably always 2-3 defections by key players (like Stilgar) away from collapsing -Paul's hold on power is actually pretty shaky and book 2-3 sees the power structure he constructed collapse and turn on itself, until Leto II shows up and builds an even more brutal but ultimately stable government with the goal of doing what amounts to 4000 years of accelerationism to destroy space-feudalism. It's kinda ironic I guess how even though Paul is superhuman his subordinates are ultimately less loyal and reliable than Duke Leto's own retainers on Caladan Typo fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Nov 2, 2021 |
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Collapsing Farts posted:The spider is some sort of genetic fuckery, cuz it looks like multiple human parts stretched out and put together; Jesus gently caress that thing is horrifying if it's some human spider creature that they created. Like the backside looks like a perineum with the legs removed and smoothed down. And didn't it make some muffled moan when trying to eat? That poo poo is seriously I really think it's either Yueh's wife or she suffered a similar fate.
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Typo posted:Now that I think about book 2, dune Messiah, there's actually a lot of nuance to the politics after Paul wins and establishes the Atreides theocracy in Spoilers for a movie that will never be made
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https://twitter.com/tr0v3r_/status/1455598015872442372
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 19:11 |
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It's the hands that freak me out. They're just human enough.
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Collapsing Farts posted:Didn't the spider have lots of arms? Shouldn't it be multiple people? It has 8 arms, it's called an Arraknid.
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 19:15 |
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Saw this flyer explaining Dune from Japan: https://imgur.com/a/zDXBlFU Original PDF http://eiga-chirashi.jp/210908/21090800006.pdf
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Collapsing Farts posted:The spider is some sort of genetic fuckery, cuz it looks like multiple human parts stretched out and put together; Yueh’s wife got a big a big ol butt I know I told you I’d be true But Yueh’s wife got a big ol butt So I’m leavin you
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 19:41 |
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maybe the spider represented the Baron's fear of being controlled.
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 19:47 |
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Flappy Bert posted:With the Atreides being assigned Arrakis, what does Leto envision his plan as being? He thinks he's being set up to fail the spice production quotas, and his plan is to make peace with the Fremem to maximize production. Assuming that all goes well in a year or two, what then? In the Harkonnen mind, there are two kinds of people in the universe: Harkonnens, who exist to enjoy power and pleasure, and everybody else, who exist to be ground into the dirt so that Harkonnens can enjoy power and pleasure. The Atreides quickly deduce that there are at least 10 times as many Fremen as the Harkonnen estimate, and the Emperor knows this too. The Harkonnen make this mistake because they consider the native people beneath them. Leto, on the other hand, believes in this deep concept of power that goes beyond noblesse oblige. He understands human beings as part of a global ecological system, so that every aspect of their society and culture is part of an organic whole. To establish his own people on Arrakis, he's willing to assimilate into Arrakeen culture, even though he doesn't know much about the Fremen and can't fully grasp the implications of that. (At the same time, he's still a patriot and an aristocrat, so he's looking to assimilate the Fremen into the Imperium. As it stands, they don't see themselves as part of a greater cosmopolitan galactic society, and why would they?) Leto is a threat to the Emperor because he's trained his military to the point that they can fight the Sardaukar man-for-man. He's also opposed the Emperor in the legislature, while always playing the part of the loyal opposition. Leto's not trying to overthrow the entire Imperial system and rule the galaxy from Arrakis--which is what Paul eventually does--but he is trying to put the Emperor in a position where the Atreides are both too militarily powerful and too valuable to the entire economic system to oppose. At that point, the best move for everyone (except the Harkonnens, gently caress them) is for the Atreides and the Corrinos to intermarry. Leto knows that the Emperor sees him as a threat and is setting him up to fail. But as far as he knows, that would mean failing to keep up spice production, losing face among the other Great Houses, losing the Arrakis fiefdom, being marginalized, and then being destroyed by the Harkonnens with the Emperor's tacit approval. But if he can root out the spies and traitors and get spice production going strong, the other Great Houses won't tolerate anyone loving with that, and he'll be in an unassailable position. An alliance with the Fremen would allow him to both recruit the best fighters in the galaxy and improve spice production in dozens of ways. What neither Duke Leto nor Baron Harkonnen understand at first is that the Emperor is aware of the potential of the Fremen. He's seen the attrition rate of Sardaukar vs. Fremen, and it's easy to see how Arrakis trains people through hardship the same way he trains his Sardaukar. Once he's on Arrakis, Leto and Hawat quickly calculate that if everything goes smoothly with the Fremen, they could have an army both larger and better than the Sardaukar within a generation. They fail to predict that the Emperor, the Harkonnens, and the Guild are willing to ally to destroy the threat they pose to the status quo sooner rather than later. (And the Bene Gesserit are willing to go along with it.)
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 19:49 |
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Yueh got stitched onto that spider for sure. That's my called shot for part 2. Happy ending, together forever
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No Mods No Masters posted:Yueh got stitched onto that spider for sure. That's my called shot for part 2. Happy ending, together forever
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AgentHaiTo posted:Saw this flyer explaining Dune from Japan: Is Paul the only person in history to actually ever shack up with his dream waifu
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 20:10 |
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Gonna need a lot of more than stitches, since his head is chopped off with a knife and then unceremoniously dropped on the floor. Hey no one said the head would be alive when it was stitched on.
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 20:50 |
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One of the biggest changes from the books and first film, iirc, is that the characters aren't already spice addicts with glowing blue eyes. Basically, everyone should be a spice addict.
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 21:29 |
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Gonna need a lot of more than stitches, since his head is chopped off with a knife and then unceremoniously dropped on the floor. Life uh finds a way.
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# ? Nov 2, 2021 21:57 |
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I forget in the book after Kynes dies and the time jump is the position of imperial planetologist left empty?
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Halloween Jack posted:Leto knows that the Emperor sees him as a threat and is setting him up to fail. But as far as he knows, that would mean failing to keep up spice production, losing face among the other Great Houses, losing the Arrakis fiefdom, being marginalized, and then being destroyed by the Harkonnens with the Emperor's tacit approval. But if he can root out the spies and traitors and get spice production going strong, the other Great Houses won't tolerate anyone loving with that, and he'll be in an unassailable position. An alliance with the Fremen would allow him to both recruit the best fighters in the galaxy and improve spice production in dozens of ways. Thanks, this is a great post and really helps, along with the previous. I guess the final thing effecting my read is whether or not I should take Leto as seeing how he can make the winning move with the Fremen and set Paul up, or if he thinks that he's going to end up with Princess Corrino himself - the difference between a politico who, for moral and other reasons, knows how to make the best movie, and the same with a solid dose of personal megalomania.
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