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Nihonniboku
Aug 11, 2004

YOU CAN FLY!!!

Deadite posted:

Watching Dune I was confused if everyone is supposed to be human.

That did confuse me a little when the Bene Gesserit called Paul human. Was she not?

Deadite posted:

Also I was confused by the personal shields that everyone wore that didn't seem to block anything at all

They explained and showed this directly in the movie. It blocks fast movement, but not slow. So guns are useless with shields, which is why everyone fought with swords. I think they also demonstrated this in the attack when they showed the missiles being launched from the orbital ships as they would slow down significantly just before they made contact with the ships on the ground.

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Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

punk rebel ecks posted:

It sounds cooler than the Dune movie.

how can it be when its your own summary of a movie you didnt like lol

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
For real though am I even gonna be able to understand what's going on in Dune? How opaque is it really with all the various political factions and the jargon and whatnot?

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
You don't need to understand the backstory for each piece of lore as long as you understand its function within the story.

Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006
I know im a day late to the binge/weekly format discussion, but I guess I do "Binge" differently.

For instance,

Mondays right now, I'll watch two episodes of AP Bio and then 1-2 episodes of Fear the Walking Dead (I just finish S1 of AP Bio and I'm midway through Season 5 of FTWD)

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Wolfsheim posted:

how can it be when its your own summary of a movie you didnt like lol

Because it’s a rough summary of what I think happened. A film solely committed to that vision and ironing things out would be interesting.

To be fair I exaggerated a bit. Dune was entertaining enough. Had great visuals and atmosphere. But it was a bit hard to follow as someone who’s only experience was it was the cameo from Snatcher.

I did think it was cool how there were no computers and swords as opposed to guns. I’ll watch Dune part 2.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

Nihonniboku posted:

That did confuse me a little when the Bene Gesserit called Paul human. Was she not?

It's metaphorical. A bad analogy: she's testing to see if Paul is woke or just another npc.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

Nihonniboku posted:

That did confuse me a little when the Bene Gesserit called Paul human. Was she not?

It's an analogy, sort of. Being human means being able to control your impulses. If Paul is merely an animal, he will react on instinct and remove his hand from the box. If he is a "human", he can control his instincts for a time and force himself to withstand the pain, knowing that if he doesn't he'll die.

It's one of the philosophical ideas in the books- because of self-imposed limitations on technology, humans have had to develop a lot of their own potential, and so there's a lot of awareness of self-control and understanding of potential which leads to things like being able to command people just by adopting a certain tone of voice, and so on. This was written in the 1960s, back when enough people took ideas like "ESP" seriously that the CIA and KGB were both trying to figure out if they could give people psychic powers, plus the whole idea of "expanding perceptions" which was a part of the drug culture. (Hence a drug like the Spice being so important.)

SunshineDanceParty
Feb 7, 2006

One Road. Two Friends. One Ass.

AngryBooch posted:

I was talking to a guy at work who saw Dune in theaters and then watched it again at home with subtitles. He loved it after his second viewing but during his first viewing he didn't quite grasp that this story was taking place on several different planets, he was under the impression that these were different biomes on the same world.



General rule of every sci fi movie is every plant has one climate.

Class Warcraft
Apr 27, 2006


SunshineDanceParty posted:

General rule of every sci fi movie is every plant has one climate.

Which sounds funny considering how diverse our planet is, but holds up when we look at every other planet we know of.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
Oof, we rented Aliens off of prime Halloween night since I was itching to watch it again and my wife had only seen it in buts and pieces on cable. This afternoon she's texts me asking about the other movies in the series because she's interested in what happens to these characters when they get back to Earth.

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Oof, we rented Aliens off of prime Halloween night since I was itching to watch it again and my wife had only seen it in buts and pieces on cable. This afternoon she's texts me asking about the other movies in the series because she's interested in what happens to these characters when they get back to Earth.

Well I mean, Ripley kicks serious rear end in Alien 4. And Alien 3. It sucks about Hicks and Newt though.

Bedlam
Feb 15, 2008

Angry thoughts

Tell her yeah, it's a shame they never made any alien movies after Aliens.

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

Anybody seen The North Water? It has Colin Farrell as a whaler. Not keen on seeing whale death, but it looks decent.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

Alien 3 is the scary late night Alien you watch at a low volume so you don't wake anyone up

TheMopeSquad
Aug 5, 2013

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Oof, we rented Aliens off of prime Halloween night since I was itching to watch it again and my wife had only seen it in buts and pieces on cable. This afternoon she's texts me asking about the other movies in the series because she's interested in what happens to these characters when they get back to Earth.

Tell her she can read the books which are about Hicks and Newt when they got back to earth (though they had to change their names for legal reasons).

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

TheMopeSquad posted:

Tell her she can read the books which are about Hicks and Newt when they got back to earth (though they had to change their names for legal reasons).

Spoiler alert they have sex

There's at least one raunchy sex scene per book, I looked forward to it every time

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Inspector Hound posted:

Alien 3 is the scary late night Alien you watch at a low volume so you don't wake anyone up

I think the director made a point about none of the characters using guns.

They were in a prison after all.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

Yeah the only guns you see are at the very end, Lance Henriksen's escorts have the pulse rifles from Aliens. They don't make the same distinctive noise, it's a grittier, real sounding gunshot.

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:
I had a nice morning planned watching The Harder They Fall but now I have actual work to do and it's making me sad. Saw 20 minutes of it though and it's really good

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

I went to see Dune again with 4 other friends not particularily into sci fi and never read Dune, and they all really liked it to varying degrees. There was one or to complaints about length, but I really do think Dune is capitilizing on a movie market saturated with juvenile Disney products, and having a cool movie with cool visuals that doesnt fit in that mold really stands out.

And the IMAX was sold out again too, on a Mon afternoon

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Finished “Ted Lasso”. I’m surprised to how much I enjoyed it. It gradually becomes more and more engaging as the show goes on. I didn’t like how Nate became a villain at the end. What the gently caress was he talking about when he said Lasso “abandoned” him?

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

punk rebel ecks posted:

Finished “Ted Lasso”. I’m surprised to how much I enjoyed it. It gradually becomes more and more engaging as the show goes on. I didn’t like how Nate became a villain at the end. What the gently caress was he talking about when he said Lasso “abandoned” him?

Both seasons?

I watched S1 but a lot of people whined about S2 which influenced my decision to not go forward with it.

The Modern Leper
Dec 25, 2008

You must be a masochist

punk rebel ecks posted:

Finished “Ted Lasso”. I’m surprised to how much I enjoyed it. It gradually becomes more and more engaging as the show goes on. I didn’t like how Nate became a villain at the end. What the gently caress was he talking about when he said Lasso “abandoned” him?

It was a little overstated (as are all human emotions), but I think he felt supplanted when Roy Kent came back and became a bit of the golden boy again as coach. Plus, of course, Ted's own glaring lack of qualifications.

I thought the progression was natural and "real," in that I could recognize the truth of his motivations along the way while also recognizing that so much of it was rooted in his own internal narrative of insecurity.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:

Both seasons?

I watched S1 but a lot of people whined about S2 which influenced my decision to not go forward with it.

S2> S1

The Modern Leper posted:

It was a little overstated (as are all human emotions), but I think he felt supplanted when Roy Kent came back and became a bit of the golden boy again as coach. Plus, of course, Ted's own glaring lack of qualifications.

I thought the progression was natural and "real," in that I could recognize the truth of his motivations along the way while also recognizing that so much of it was rooted in his own internal narrative of insecurity.

“Qualifications”? He was a loving ball boy before Ted promoted him.

punk rebel ecks fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Nov 3, 2021

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

Inspector Hound posted:

Spoiler alert they have sex

There's at least one raunchy sex scene per book, I looked forward to it every time

The ones based on the comic series that came out before Alien 3 or did they just keep going after that? Because the comics kept Hicks and Newt entirely platonic.

Alien Theory did a cool documentary style recounting of the Dark Horse books from the late 80s, maybe I can get her to check that out.

Weaponized Cum
Aug 31, 2004


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punk rebel ecks posted:

Finished “Ted Lasso”. I’m surprised to how much I enjoyed it. It gradually becomes more and more engaging as the show goes on. I didn’t like how Nate became a villain at the end. What the gently caress was he talking about when he said Lasso “abandoned” him?

He's basically a cuck that can't even reserve a loving table at a restaurant. He'd be a good SA poster irl

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:

B-Rock452 posted:

I had a nice morning planned watching The Harder They Fall but now I have actual work to do and it's making me sad. Saw 20 minutes of it though and it's really good

Finished it. This movie rocks. One of the best westerns to come out in years with an absolutely stacked cast. Beautifully shot as well. Even if you don't like westerns check it out.

The Modern Leper
Dec 25, 2008

You must be a masochist

punk rebel ecks posted:

S2> S1

“Qualifications”? He was a loving ball boy before Ted promoted him.

I mean, he knows how the loving game is played, which puts him ahead of Ted most days of the week.

The show clearly depicts Nate as a talented individual with a head for the game. Would he have been recognized at all but for Ted? Maybe not. Still, there's nothing like a sense of frustrated ambition to curdle confidence into arrogance and bitterness. It's illogical, but so's most of human nature. It's frustrating, but it rings true to me.

Deadite
Aug 30, 2003

A fat guy, a watermelon, and a stack of magazines?
Family.
Is anyone else watching Dopesick on Hulu? It’s a show I go back and forth on whether I enjoy it or not. Bouncing around in time across like 4 storylines makes it hard to keep track of what is happening when and all of the characters are so broad they’re basically cartoons

RestingB1tchFace
Jul 4, 2016

Opinions are like a$$holes....everyone has one....but mines the best!!!

Deadite posted:

Is that what it was? I thought the shields were supposed to block fast swords but they didn't seem to block anything at all.

At least I remember Josh Brolin saying something about the slow blade getting through the shield

The shields slow fast moving objects. It's why weapons of that sort became more or less useless. Also....laser weapons coming into contact with shields create a mass "atomic" like explosion that were extremely dangerous (atomic explosion?)

Boxman
Sep 27, 2004

Big fan of :frog:


The Modern Leper posted:

I mean, he knows how the loving game is played, which puts him ahead of Ted most days of the week.

The show clearly depicts Nate as a talented individual with a head for the game. Would he have been recognized at all but for Ted? Maybe not. Still, there's nothing like a sense of frustrated ambition to curdle confidence into arrogance and bitterness. It's illogical, but so's most of human nature. It's frustrating, but it rings true to me.


More Ted Lasso S2 chat:

I think his motivations were a nice mix of illogical and logical (but wrong headed, which makes for a pretty fine villain). Like, he does have a good head for the game, like you said, and it makes sense that he knows that and feels more confidence thanks in part to some coaching from Keeley and Rebecca. So maybe he's just naturally chafing for a bit more respect than he'll ever find at the club where he was a ball boy. And that sense of frustration is compounded into a personal level when he confesses that he kissed Keeley and commands so little respect that everyone laughs that it could possibly be an affront to Roy loving Kent. From our perspective, it's a gag, but also a character beat of the absolute confidence Kent has the relationship, which is nice. But Nate, who's already maybe feeling a bit looked down upon, just feels more emasculation. So he boils over and makes everything personal, in the process taking another thing as a personal slight when the audience knows there's more going on - when he says that Lasso doesn't keep his gift in his office, when we know its in his house. It's a mix of semi-reasonable complaints and personality mis-matches that add up to this big explosion and heel turn. It's possible it was a bit sudden, but I think the fundamental groundwork is there.

All that last episode drama overshadows what I think is the actual weakest part of the season, which is a long plot about the owner of the club and a young player hooking up and the insane power dynamics at play there not being discussed at all. I think they tried to write around it with the meet cute situation, but honestly it feels weird for it to just...not come up.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

Boxman posted:


All that last episode drama overshadows what I think is the actual weakest part of the season, which is a long plot about [spoiler]the owner of the club and a young player hooking up and the insane power dynamics at play there not being discussed at all. I think they tried to write around it with the meet cute situation, but honestly it feels weird for it to just...not come up.

Seriously, I agree If the owner of the club has a relationship with a player there's a serious power dynamic involved and it's not something people can ignore and I kept waiting for that to be addressedbut no it's Ted Lasso it's the happy show. If you want honest work politics, gently caress off. We've got heartwarming things to do.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
I forgot to add that while Ted Lasso is enjoyable I can understand that it's success is partially due to it being "non-political" as possible. But being honest that really hurts the plot since some things just make no sense. Take Jamie Tartt for instance. Why in the gently caress would any team drop him because he cheated on a girl in a reality TV show? He is a sports star, people in that position often can even beat or even rape women and face no consequences. It makes no sense that he would stop being an rear end in a top hat and get humbled. He would at least have to get arrested (several) times before I could take him being a pariah to the league seriously.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

punk rebel ecks posted:

I forgot to add that while Ted Lasso is enjoyable I can understand that it's success is partially due to it being "non-political" as possible. But being honest that really hurts the plot since some things just make no sense. Take Jamie Tartt for instance. Why in the gently caress would any team drop him because he cheated on a girl in a reality TV show? He is a sports star, people in that position often can even beat or even rape women and face no consequences. It makes no sense that he would stop being an rear end in a top hat and get humbled. He would at least have to get arrested (several) times before I could take him being a pariah to the league seriously.

Yeah I was telling a friend that while I really enjoy the show, I don't think it's going to be one that I rewatch in 10 years. I think it fills a role in TV that we just really need right now, a show that's just an hour of feel good vibes. Like people have said, it has some darker stuff but even that is light hearted dark stuff.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
I’m really impressed with HBO Max so far. The catalog has so many great shows. It’s strange that this isn’t the second place contender but Disney plus is. I guess people really like their Marvel and Star Wars.

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


punk rebel ecks posted:

I’m really impressed with HBO Max so far. The catalog has so many great shows. It’s strange that this isn’t the second place contender but Disney plus is. I guess people really like their Marvel and Star Wars.

Yeah there are some major deep cuts on there as well.

Watched The Harder They Fall the other day on Netflix and it's easily the most interesting western to come out in a while.

fancy stats
Sep 9, 2009

A man's man, wears a lot of denim, tells long stories and has oatmeal saved from this morning.

punk rebel ecks posted:

Take Jamie Tartt for instance. Why in the gently caress would any team drop him because he cheated on a girl in a reality TV show? He is a sports star, people in that position often can even beat or even rape women and face no consequences. It makes no sense that he would stop being an rear end in a top hat and get humbled. He would at least have to get arrested (several) times before I could take him being a pariah to the league seriously.

Huh? I was pretty sure it was because Jamie left City in order to be part of the show. No club is going to want a player they're not sure is actually going to play for them.

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

Ted Lasso is a show about dads.

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Sand Monster
Apr 13, 2008

Sodomy Hussein posted:

Yeah there are some major deep cuts on there as well.

Any specific recommendations? I trawled through the majority of the catalog but may have missed a few gems.

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