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I got a wd raptor hard drive do I could game more better. Raptors was 10,000 rpm when most drives in the early 2000s we're 56 or 7800 rpm (I think). Mine was only 32gb and I could fit windows and doom 3 in it and I was happy. https://louwrentius.com/an-ode-to-the-10000-rpm-western-digital-velociraptor.html
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obeyasia posted:I got a wd raptor hard drive do I could game more better. Raptors was 10,000 rpm when most drives in the early 2000s we're 56 or 7800 rpm (I think). Mine was only 32gb and I could fit windows and doom 3 in it and I was happy. they also had a window on the drive case
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# ? Nov 3, 2021 21:54 |
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graph posted:they also had a window on the drive case making sure to occasionally pull out my HDD and look through the window while saying "hmmmm, yes" and stroking my chin thoughtfully
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# ? Nov 3, 2021 22:45 |
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oh there were people that did DIY drive windows. What they'd do is put a giant pot of water on the stove and seal up the kitchen exits and vents with plastic and steam all the dust out of the air. then disassemble, dremel the window in (obviously in another similarly isolated space) and glue the plexi on, then reassemble. It was way before perpendicular recording or anything like that so it had a reasonable success rate
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 02:03 |
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i just assume when a hard drive has been opened, it is destroyed
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 03:43 |
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obeyasia posted:I got a wd raptor hard drive do I could game more better. Raptors was 10,000 rpm when most drives in the early 2000s we're 56 or 7800 rpm (I think). Mine was only 32gb and I could fit windows and doom 3 in it and I was happy. my current machine originally had 4x 74gb raptors in a raid0 as the boot drive when it started failing SSDs were cheap enough, though they weren't really faster until nvme came later
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 04:50 |
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the comp shop refused to sell ssds because tHeyRe sO eXpeNsIvE so we sold raptors for Gaming Boxes ugh it did keep me in a steady stream of failed raptors. one time i sent in a 70gb OG raptor and got a 150 velociraptor and put it in my machine. thought i was hot poo poo. It, of course, died after 6mo. Traaaaash
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 05:11 |
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Jonny 290 posted:oh there were people that did DIY drive windows.
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 05:26 |
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that reminds me i have an old drive with a fried board from a time when those were still swappable, might try to get a spare from one of the big old wonky parts stores online it probably has old school projects on it but as the only old drive not backed up it bothers me
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 05:53 |
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obeyasia posted:I got a wd raptor hard drive do I could game more better. Raptors was 10,000 rpm when most drives in the early 2000s we're 56 or 7800 rpm (I think). Mine was only 32gb and I could fit windows and doom 3 in it and I was happy. i did exactly this too and it made a pretty significant difference. i only had an athlon 2100 and some mid range video card but i got better frames than my buddies with nvidia tis. ssds really were such a lifesaver when they came along
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Presto posted:Yeah, one of my textbooks in college had an essay about Cray weirdness. Like there were numbers that were zero as far as the adder was concerned but not zero to the multiplier. And there were cases where if x was a large value, and 2.0 * x would overflow, then 1.0 * x would overflow too. but if you could handle the weirdness the throughput you could get was insane remember that consumers only got something with the performance of a circa 1982–1985 Cray X-MP in 1999–2000, and workstation availability was only a few years earlier
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 09:47 |
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obeyasia posted:I got a wd raptor hard drive do I could game more better. Raptors was 10,000 rpm when most drives in the early 2000s we're 56 or 7800 rpm (I think). Mine was only 32gb and I could fit windows and doom 3 in it and I was happy. 5400 and 7200 RPM even in the late 1990s workstations and servers were using 10Krpm and faster disks I once put a 15Krpm and a 15.1Krpm SCA disk into a SPARCstation 20, which puts hard disks one atop the other, without thinking about the very loud 100Hz hum that would generate
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 09:55 |
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graph posted:they also had a window on the drive case the 14-inch Shugart hard disk drives used by PERQ did this
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 09:57 |
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by the way, don’t forget to park the heads
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 09:59 |
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oh yeah, also, cray sold a 1GB SSD for the X-MP in the 1980s and DEC sold SSDs in the 1980s and 1990s they were battery-backed RAM mediated by a CPU implementing a disk interface, so they were insanely expensive, but they were a thing that was actually on the market
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 10:01 |
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my dad worked at Bull on dps7 mainframes and they had hard disks with removable platter spindles that they carried around in big plastic cases https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_pack we usually had one or two of these things lying around at home i saw it in action once and the hard drive was the size of a washing machine, the spindle was loaded at the top, then it took like a couple minutes to spin up until there was enough airflow to deploy the heads
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 11:41 |
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my dad has a platter from one of those, it's bigger than a dinner plate I think the story was someone dropped one of those spindles/cases full of platters...so uh, hey who wants a free computer tchotchke? cuz that's all these things are good for now!
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 12:42 |
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Agile Vector posted:that reminds me i have an old drive with a fried board from a time when those were still swappable, might try to get a spare from one of the big old wonky parts stores online doxxing myself but you reminded me that i recovered a hdd board many years ago, back when i thought poo poo was worth writing about https://www.mathewinkson.com/2009/05/unbricking-a-seagate-barracuda nokia lol
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 16:31 |
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eschaton posted:oh yeah, also, cray sold a 1GB SSD for the X-MP in the 1980s and DEC sold SSDs in the 1980s and 1990s in general it is kind of interesting to wonder whether you could make computers with like 5x the single-thread performance of other current offerings for 100x the money today. with very little basis kind of guess that you could, exotic materials and construction still being things. but while there is probably still some market for such things the engineering effort is just low-margin at even vast markups because the talent is way more profitably employed at actual at-scale work.
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 16:40 |
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eschaton posted:5400 and 7200 RPM oh back in AR i had a setup with four 15k SCA drives in raid5. one day i found a random_seek_test.sh script for linux, ran it, and immediately hit the deck to avoid, to my ears, what appeared to be an incoming burst of Vulcan cannon fire
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 16:47 |
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congrats intel you did it, you made a 10nm intel desktop chip. 1st new process since skylake in tyool 2015. tick toooooooooooooock as they say. keep it up!
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 17:07 |
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eschaton posted:5400 and 7200 RPM i was loving around with a couple old 10Krpm scsi drives a few years ago. threw them into an old case. they started getting slower... and slower... and i was wondering what the hell was happening until i remembered that the little 3.5" drive cage inside the case had the drives right next to each other, like pretty much physical contact. the drives had gotten way too hot lol. like i touched one and it was painfully hot. after i powered off and separated them and let them cool off, they worked fine again but yeah back around 2006-2007 i snagged a couple of used white-label 15Krpm SCA drives off ebay, 36GB and 72GB. system drive, games drive. worked great.
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 17:20 |
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oh yeah i spun down my stupid raid xeon box eventually because one day i checked smartctl on that array and the drives were just idling at 67C and i was like lmao gently caress this
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 17:48 |
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:congrats intel you did it, you made a 10nm intel desktop chip. 1st new process since skylake in tyool 2015. tick toooooooooooooock as they say. keep it up! they benchmark slightly faster in certain tasks when compared with amd's year old offerings while using more than 2x the power naturally this means amd is finished, pack it up amdailures, etc...
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 17:56 |
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also they do it with 4400mhz ddr5 ram, compared to (most of the time) 3200mhz ddr4. zen4 will resume the wreckage
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 17:58 |
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Jonny 290 posted:also they do it with 4400mhz ddr5 ram, compared to (most of the time) 3200mhz ddr4. zen4 will resume the wreckage and by the time zen4 is out, 64 gigs of ddr5 ram likely won't cost more than the processor or motherboard
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 18:02 |
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Agile Vector posted:that reminds me i have an old drive with a fried board from a time when those were still swappable When and how did this stop being a thing? I still use platter drives a lot as secondaries.
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 18:51 |
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eh quite a while ago. boards are tuned to the individual drive mechanism wrt positionings and how that particular spindle assembly is performing
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 18:57 |
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im dumb, i know, but how does data recovery from dead drives even work at the shop-with-a-clean-room level? just swap the platters into a new enclosure?
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 19:26 |
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:im dumb, i know, but how does data recovery from dead drives even work at the shop-with-a-clean-room level? just swap the platters into a new enclosure? nah you just get a magnifying glass and read the secrets. sometimes you need a lil projector enlarger thingy for the jpgs
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 20:33 |
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in my experience with drivesavers: 1: charge your account a $500 deposit 2: receive the drive 3: bring into clean room 4: disassemble 5: grind old dogshit into the platters, run a 3/16" drill through a few spots, laugh and pound a shot of whiskey 6: bill for an additional $400 and say "sorry too far gone"
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# ? Nov 4, 2021 20:35 |
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FTSUJR: putting a failing 2000s HDD in the freezer to fix the bearings or whatever and successfully recovering data from it in the roughly 60 minutes or so of life it would give you.
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# ? Nov 5, 2021 01:19 |
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hell yes, also smacking the side of the hard drive case with the butt of a screwdriver to get the platters unstuck when the bearings fail, to make it work a little bit longer. as a late 90’s/early 2000’s helpdesk jockey, this was my go to when peoples drives died
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# ? Nov 5, 2021 02:10 |
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Trimson Grondag 3 posted:FTSUJR: putting a failing 2000s HDD in the freezer to fix the bearings or whatever and successfully recovering data from it in the roughly 60 minutes or so of life it would give you. oh yeah I remember that. why did that work
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# ? Nov 5, 2021 02:55 |
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Jonny 290 posted:in my experience with drivesavers: only had to use it once back in the cj days but they actually got everything. it cost the person 2gr, but they did it
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# ? Nov 5, 2021 03:15 |
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i'm pretty sure you can still do board swaps with the right equipment, you just need to dump the calibration data from the chips on the dead board and copy it to the replacement. if whatever killed the board also wiped out the calibration data then you might be in trouble.
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# ? Nov 5, 2021 05:39 |
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my stepdads beer posted:oh yeah I remember that. why did that work metal parts get smaller when it's cold (like my balls), which gives extra clearance between the moving parts in the bearings. if they're seized up then that can be enough to let them spin again, until the heat produced by running them makes them unshrink.
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# ? Nov 5, 2021 05:42 |
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my stepdads beer posted:oh yeah I remember that. why did that work :george voice: it's shrinkage. shrinkage
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# ? Nov 5, 2021 06:09 |
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falcon northwest
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KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD posted:falcon northwest Alienware. I wish I could find an old beat up black Alienware cap. My best computer friend had one he won at a lan party. He died a few years ago. He wrote that dang thing proudly all the time. I miss you Johnny.
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