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stev posted:D4 was never coming out in 2022 was it? I got the impression that it was maybe a 2023/4 game. I think the only hard info we had on D4's release date is that it wouldn't be in 2021, so there was a slight chance it could have come out in 2022.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:anyways this is why we're seeing kotick take a completely meaningless minimum wage salary, there's got to be a lot of people at this point realizing that his management has led to nothing but a massive lawsuit filled smoking crater. Hell, he was already unpopular with shareholders when activision was at its peak. Eh, the shareholders don't have to like him, as long as the board directors do. I'm guessing he has enough buddies in the board to do whatever he wants. CEOs are not allowed to influence board selection (i.e. pack it with friendlies), but they absolutely do it all the loving time.
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stev posted:D4 was never coming out in 2022 was it? I got the impression that it was maybe a 2023/4 game. Every day it becomes more obvious that Blizzard rushed a D4 announcement for a game that didn’t exist past concept art to quell the Hong Kong controversy. And poo poo, it worked, for a while.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:They were definitely dropping some hints that they wanted a 2022 release and it makes sense given what we know of blizz's dev pipeline that they would've needed D4 and OW2 to basically carry their earnings in 2022. They were obviously banking on, at minimum, one of them releasing in 2022, but most likely actually both. Like blizzard has a 1.5 bill operating budget, presumably they can develop the glorified OW patch that is OW2 and Diablo 4 at the same time while turning out maybe 1 big wow patch. At this point, I'm assuming both projects will be cancelled when blizz gets folded up and replaced with a new studio trying to use the blizz IPs.
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Pirate Jet posted:Every day it becomes more obvious that Blizzard rushed a D4 announcement for a game that didn’t exist past concept art to quell the Hong Kong controversy. where are blitzchung and those two announcers anyway
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Pirate Jet posted:Every day it becomes more obvious that Blizzard rushed a D4 announcement for a game that didn’t exist past concept art to quell the Hong Kong controversy. It's almost certainly not due to that, but trying to show investors (and the rest of Activision) that they had some kind of revenue generator on the horizon. Schreier notes that several months before the Blitzchung incident they already knew that OW2/D4 would be at the upcoming Blizzcon: https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1455908839723839499 Of course now they don't have any revenue on the horizon at all so just lmao
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parasyte posted:It's almost certainly not due to that, but trying to show investors (and the rest of Activision) that they had some kind of revenue generator on the horizon. Schreier notes that several months before the Blitzchung incident they already knew that OW2/D4 would be at the upcoming Blizzcon: They still have on-going revenue streams tied to each of their live games, but yeah, they're obviously pushing to get new titles out to satisfy the wolves at the gates.
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exquisite tea posted:Diablo 4 looked utterly out of ideas in what little we'd seen of it, so I wouldn't be surprised if the whole project was rebuilt now that the lead has been canned. Honestly idk what's left untapped in the genre, if it isn't already in a moba somewhere because that business model encourages just throwing everything at the wall and seeing what sticks (sells as a new character/moveset)
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Cythereal posted:Diablo 4 looks to straight up be an MMO with private instanced hubs. There was a big emphasis on public events with pick-up groups out in the zones in the preview material. yeah it's probably a continuation on the direction they were headed with D3 and its expansions - just procgen instanced maps with custom settings and a matchmaker with competitive ladders
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parasyte posted:It's almost certainly not due to that, but trying to show investors (and the rest of Activision) that they had some kind of revenue generator on the horizon. Schreier notes that several months before the Blitzchung incident they already knew that OW2/D4 would be at the upcoming Blizzcon: https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1455908839723839499 Mm, I see. You’ll have to forgive me for not keeping up with Schreier, he is frequently correct but always a twat.
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Pirate Jet posted:Mm, I see. You’ll have to forgive me for not keeping up with Schreier, he is frequently correct but always a twat. Honestly it's easy to mistake Blizzard caring about its player base, but you gotta remember: the investors ALWAYS come before the players. It's an easy mistake to make because they spend so much money making them players think they care.
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https://twitter.com/KirstenGrind/status/1460641844346298371 https://twitter.com/KirstenGrind/status/1460641847366205447 quote:`Ms. Oneal said in the email she had been sexually harassed earlier in her career at Activision, and that she was paid less than her male counterpart at the helm of Blizzard, and wanted to discuss her resignation. “I have been tokenized, marginalized, and discriminated against,” wrote Ms. Oneal, who is Asian-American and gay. Cythereal fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Nov 16, 2021 |
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https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1460646958226362368?s=20 loving blizzard
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WSJ posted:In 2006, one of his assistants complained that he had harassed her, including by threatening in a voice mail to have her killed, according to people familiar with the matter. He settled the matter out of court, the people said. He didn't even deny that one. Jesus loving Christ what an awful human being.
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Mr. Fortitude posted:https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1460658830703042569?t=d9tyYJcXEInnijiLlZMeqA&s=19
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Mr. Fortitude posted:https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1460658830703042569?t=d9tyYJcXEInnijiLlZMeqA&s=19 what's he gonna do when he can't disavow someone else for making a tone deaf video now though
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Mr. Fortitude posted:https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1460658830703042569?t=d9tyYJcXEInnijiLlZMeqA&s=19 lmfao
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Mr. Fortitude posted:I dunno, I'm thinking his reaction would be more like Tommy Wiseau from The Room That can't be right, Wiseau is so much more relatable and charismatic than Bobby.
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Malah posted:https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1460672531002707976 Just walk out and don’t come back. Some things can’t be fixed.
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mikemil828 posted:Just walk out and don’t come back. Some things can’t be fixed. I’m sure many would love to but don’t have the financial security to just leave a job and hope for the best.
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JFC! https://twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/1460695834677366794?s=20 Traveller posted:Is anyone else getting promoted tweets from Activision?
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