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AnimeIsTrash posted:poor people famously love getting tax credits only if they're properly means-tested, otherwise it is immoral and wrong
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Jonny 290 posted:you got an awful big crush on a guy who still owes you six hundred dollars
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i love to kiss my tax credits on the mouth
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tax credits are great because an enormous number of people eligible for them never actually receive them for various reasons so you get to trumpet how much good you're doing without breaking the bank. now that's just smart policy making!
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LanceHunter posted:Nah, since I'm not massively disingenuous I realize that got that $600 back in January. lol that's the one trump signed and then demanded that congress increase to $2k per person in the first place because $600 is ridiculously low funny stuff
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if pro is the opposite of con, then what's the opposite of progress? democrats
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well republicans are the opposite of progress. they're the "lets make everything worse for everyone" party. democrats are the "nothing can ever get better" party. also that's all the parties, there aren't any other choices.
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Stereotype posted:democrats are the "nothing can ever get better" party. sounds like most posters in this thread are democrats
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that's not fair we just think things are gonna get much, much worse first
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i guess they're the "we don't want anything to get better" party then, because it's true i don't think anything is ever going to get better, but i do want it to get better
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Oneiros posted:that's not fair so you're a republican
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Sagebrush posted:so you're a republican Are you a royalist? ... it explains so much.
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Stereotype posted:so what happens if you are a single parent with two kids under 6 and make $50k /yr, because i can't imagine that person is doing anything beyond desperately struggling to survive. good news, one of your kids was just lifted out of poverty
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Jonny 290 posted:its me im the poster opening every post with "i know you're rich, but" but not realizing that a parent of two making 40k a year is taking the standard deduction every single time. my brain is huge and so smooth that nasa borrowed it to calibrate the JWST mirror you get tax credits like the child tax credit irrespective of whether you itemize
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a lot of people don’t file taxes at all, especially if they don’t make much or don’t want to deal with filling out all the paperwork. it means leaving money on the table though and, since we have a stupid system of arcane deductions and a big worksheet, that usually effects poor people. also if you fill out that worksheet wrong you can owe thousands of dollars or go to jail.
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iirc only like 80% of people who file who qualify for the eitc actually claim it and then tax prep services suck up like 20% of the money they get
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in theory you don’t need to even file to claim the child tax credit (if you’re poor enough to not need to file), although i can’t speak to how many people know that or how well the alternative sign-up system works
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Anyway, the reward for passing the lovely bipartisan bill is the big bill absolutely 100% failing: https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/1456990905546727431?t=1eTCOgU_UOpqLCsHD8kVcA&s=19
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for real, filing taxes is criminally user-hostile in us of a last year i did my taxes by hand (electronically via free fillable forms, but not with 'tax prep' software). reading the instructions and filling everything out correctly and checking it took me somewhere between 16-24 hours of work and i already had the previous years' transcripts to crib from
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Hunter2 Thompson posted:for real, filing taxes is criminally user-hostile in us of a without fail, the few times i did my taxes by hand there was some tiny $1.50 error in one direction or another that occasionally resulted in me owing the irs around $10 extra once interest and penalties were factored in. i checked, re-checked and triple checked every last thing and i could never figure out why their numbers were slightly off from my own. i can only assume it was a part where it tells you to look up numbers in a chart and, while i pulled numbers directly from the chart as the instructions requested, they used the actual formula, which gave a more precise amount
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:only if they're properly means-tested, otherwise it is immoral and wrong Exactly, you wouldn't want someone making $50,001 getting the benefits intended for people who make <= $50,000
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so as I understand it, this bill is about repairing roads and bridges, adding public transit, expanding rural broadband, etc. an article I read says there's $110bn for roads and bridges, which does not seem like enough even just for the bridges to me, but whatever. all of the social spending and climate change stuff is in a separate bill, and the reason this one was ever in question is that progressives know full well that the only way that the social spending is passing is if they can hold the infrastructure bill hostage, so they rightly demanded that the bills be voted on together. yesterday they cut some fuckin deal where the rightmost democrats agree to vote for the social spending if the PBO comes back in a few weeks and says the dem estimate of its costs are accurate. just getting this image prepped for the social spending vote: 
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Truman Peyote posted:so as I understand it, this bill is about repairing roads and bridges, adding public transit, expanding rural broadband, etc. an article I read says there's $110bn for roads and bridges, which does not seem like enough even just for the bridges to me, but whatever. all of the social spending and climate change stuff is in a separate bill, and the reason this one was ever in question is that progressives know full well that the only way that the social spending is passing is if they can hold the infrastructure bill hostage, so they rightly demanded that the bills be voted on together. yesterday they cut some fuckin deal where the rightmost democrats agree to vote for the social spending if the PBO comes back in a few weeks and says the dem estimate of its costs are accurate. is it only 110bil for the 10 year period of the bill? obama’s expiring highway bill was 305bil for 5 years.
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NoneMoreNegative posted:https://twitter.com/politicsforali/status/1457106298479185921 probably all those canned baked beans they serve there
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NoneMoreNegative posted:https://twitter.com/politicsforali/status/1457106298479185921 
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akadajet posted:fart on all royals
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george bush ate sushi and barfed
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SmokaDustbowl posted:george bush ate sushi and barfed 
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david cop-a-feel
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Casual Encountess posted:who can i get to make me a ramadan yospos sig when the time comes I bet hbag would make you one not a joke/slam/whatever, it actually seems like their jam
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lmao happy one-year anniversary https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Seasons_Total_Landscaping_press_conference 
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NoneMoreNegative posted:https://twitter.com/politicsforali/status/1457106298479185921 i hate to admit it but sometimes joe rules
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