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But I thought Vitameatavegamin was good for my health! It's all in the name!
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Nov 8, 2021 08:31
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I don’t know if people were particularly constipated back then, but they were definitely hung over way more often, which at least explains all the antacid and Alka-Seltzer ads. Back in the 70s they also didn’t have stuff like Zantac or Prilosec for acid reflux, and while some were available in the early 80s they didn’t really get big until the mid/late 80s iirc. Every ad you see for an acid reflux med nowadays would probably have been an Alka-Seltzer ad back then.
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Nov 8, 2021 11:07
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They also didn't know much about stomach ulcers. They thought they were caused by stress, so the treatment was chilling out, only eating bland food, and drinking milk. It didn't work well at all so you'd be taking plenty of antacids. It wasn't until the '90s that it was widely known that stomach ulcers are caused by H. pylori bacteria (and NSAID overuse) and can be cured with meds. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_peptic_ulcer_disease_and_Helicobacter_pylori
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Nov 8, 2021 15:31
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Aside from Alka-Seltzer, even more popular was probably Bromo-Seltzer. Instead of aspirin, it's active ingredient was sodium bromide. Depending on how much you take, bromide salts will either level out your mood, provide some mild sedation, or knock you out. All the bromide salts (sodium, potassium, and lithium) are extremely safe so long as you don't overdose. Problem is, it's very easy to overdose. It lasts twelve days in your system, and by the third or forth day you might not feel it anymore and re-dose, and then re-dose again three or four days later. Now you've got a dangerous level of bromide in you and are probably suffering from bromism, including seizures, delirium, acute psychosis, and dementia. As many as one in ten admissions to mental hospitals were the result of bromism. If you read novels from the earlier 1900s and see references to "sleeping draughts", they're talking about bromide salts -- potassium, usually. The powder was compressed into thin disks that you'd drop into a glass of water and dissolve. They were largely displaced by comparatively safer barbiturates in the '30s but Bromo-Seltzer continued to be sold on the open market without a prescription until it was withdrawn in 1975. It gave rise to calling people "bromides" because their conversation is so boring, they'll put you to sleep. Ortho fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Nov 14, 2021 |
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Nov 8, 2021 18:42
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dustin.h posted:Tires are the most fragile things in the world I remember my grandfather specifically talking about this during a long drive one time. From his description it did sound like tire breaks were a near constant issue, but that was due to how lovely a lot of the roads were at the time. ClothHat fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Nov 8, 2021 |
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Nov 8, 2021 19:11
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I'm reminded of a line from the 1952 hit single Setting the Woods on FireOld Hank posted:We'll put aside a little time to fix a flat or two Which is a song about going out partying one night and Hank just assumes he'll need to account for the time it takes fix at least one flat during this night of honky tonking.
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Nov 8, 2021 19:20
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Likely also a handy J, depending on how much double entendre you think is going on in that song (probably a lot).
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Nov 8, 2021 19:31
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ClothHat posted:I remember my grandfather specifically talking about this during a long drive one time. From his description it did sound like tire breaks were a near constant issue, but that was due to how lovely a lot of the roads were at the time. Tires were a lot shittier back in the day. Just about every gas station also had like tire vulcanization/repair etc back in the day. At least according to older movies, or movies that take place in ye olden days. Steel belted tires really fuckin made things a lot better Cars also overheated a lot more, and generally broke down more frequently. The "good" thing about it was you could often times fix a car at the side of the road with the proverbial spit and bailing wire back then. Not so now, but cars break down way less.
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Nov 9, 2021 01:30
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So I was watching Saved By The Bell last week and I got to the episode that takes place with the future class of 2003, and they discover the time capsule that the gang left before they graduated in '93. Even 2003 seems so long ago, I was a freshman in high school that year! I also thought it was funny that the message they left behind was on tape, seeing that the world actually shifted towards DVD.
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Nov 9, 2021 01:36
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wesleywillis posted:Tires were a lot shittier back in the day. Just about every gas station also had like tire vulcanization/repair etc back in the day. I think I've mentioned this before but on long stretches of desert or inclined roads you can often see the old water barrels or maybe even signs for them. Every few miles there would be a barrel full of water for you to use to refill your radiator when your car overheated because it was so common. Tire technology is one of those things that has advanced by leaps and bounds in the last 75 years without anyone really noticing it. Tires today are so much sturdier, grippier and versatile than they were before. Part of the reason so many of the old American muscle cars are gone is because they were literal death traps, tons of horsepower on lovely tires meant they it was laughably easy to drive them off the road and then when you did since they were rigid body on frame the occupants usually died from impact. We take for granted how much better modern cars are today.
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Nov 9, 2021 02:48
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Engines have gotten so much more powerful, too. Today’s minivans could beat seventies muscle cars in many cases.
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Nov 9, 2021 02:59
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My dad bought the italian sports car that he'd always wanted growing up. He sold it after he drove my mom's modern passenger car and realised it was faster and more maneuverable.
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Nov 9, 2021 03:06
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Now if only they could use some kind of amazing future nanotech bullshit to make cars as safe, reliable, efficient and powerful as modern cars can be but still let them look as loving cool as the old ones. Aerodynamics and pedestrian safety and crumple zones and actual a-pillars and all that mean all cars now look like fat homogenous blobs through convergent evolution. Yes yes I know the old cars were slow, gas-guzzling death traps but loving look at them. 
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Nov 9, 2021 03:21
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Platystemon posted:Engines have gotten so much more powerful, too. Unless you're referring to the ones from the early 70s, a lot of economy cars from today can beat 70s muscle cars. Not to mention a lot of "fast" stuff from the 80s and 90s. 20 years ago, there were V6s making more power than V8s from 30 years ago etc..
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Nov 9, 2021 03:53
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Imagined posted:Now if only they could use some kind of amazing future nanotech bullshit to make cars as safe, reliable, efficient and powerful as modern cars can be but still let them look as loving cool as the old ones. Aerodynamics and pedestrian safety and crumple zones and actual a-pillars and all that mean all cars now look like fat homogenous blobs through convergent evolution. Yes yes I know the old cars were slow, gas-guzzling death traps but loving look at them. It has nothing to do with technology, they can make safe cars that look cool, it's just more expensive and the general public would rather have a cheap pill with wheels than pay extra for something that looks cool.
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Nov 9, 2021 03:54
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The improvement in automotive reliability is really one of the most underappreciated aspects of modern life. It went from seeing somebody broken down on the side of the road being a fairly common site, to it just being poor people with old cars, to hardly seeing it at all.
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Nov 9, 2021 04:05
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Power figures for old cars are basically complete lies. All those 60s muscle cars that claimed to have 350hp really had about 200, maybe 220 if you got a good one. Plus the fact that they were 14 foot barges that could barely go round a corner, and crumpled like paper and put the steering column through the driver's face in a 30mph crash...
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Nov 9, 2021 12:52
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AKA Pseudonym posted:The improvement in automotive reliability is really one of the most underappreciated aspects of modern life. It went from seeing somebody broken down on the side of the road being a fairly common site, to it just being poor people with old cars, to hardly seeing it at all. Exactly. I still see people with flat tires on extremely hot days, but most of them have lovely aftermarket rims and I assume most of them didn’t use TPMS sensors. TPMS is nearly magical, since the vast majority of tire failures(not just punctures) are due to underinflation.
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Nov 9, 2021 13:19
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Sweevo posted:Power figures for old cars are basically complete lies. All those 60s muscle cars that claimed to have 350hp really had about 200, maybe 220 if you got a good one. Plus the fact that they were 14 foot barges that could barely go round a corner, and crumpled like paper and put the steering column through the driver's face in a 30mph crash... Ok, I'll bite. That's not exactly true. A car with a 350hp engine actually did have an engine that made 350hp although there were many that were actually under rated. The difference is that that engine made 350 hp without parasitic losses from things like the alternator, water pump, power steering pump etc. So when a manufacturer advertised the car as having 350hp or whatever the gently caress, they weren't lying its just that the way it was measured was different. Starting in 1971(?) or 72(?) they started measuring engines with water pump, alternator etc... Coincidentally enough, that also happened to be right about the time that engines were also being detuned due to things including but not limited to fuel economy regulations, emission regulations, insurance costs and so on. Also, even today, pretty much no manufacturers measure hp at the drive wheels, nor did they back then. Last but not least, the cars back then didn't crumple like paper, which is why you hear old dudes being all like "rawr cars are so disposable these days, back in my day, my 1964 Ford would have gone right through that brick wall cause 'merican steel rawr disposable tinfoil cars these days"1!!!!
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Nov 9, 2021 14:17
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wesleywillis posted:Last but not least, the cars back then didn't crumple like paper, which is why you hear old dudes being all like "rawr cars are so disposable these days, back in my day, my 1964 Ford would have gone right through that brick wall cause 'merican steel rawr disposable tinfoil cars these days"1!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtxd27jlZ_g The comments on videos like this are always full of salty old fuckers crying and grasping at increasingly ridiculous straws about why the test was unfair and must have been rigged, this doesn't match my bellyfeels, I have an existential dread of getting old, etc etc.
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Nov 9, 2021 14:49
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Lemniscate Blue posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtxd27jlZ_g Making fake car crashes all day must be such a sweet job
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Nov 9, 2021 15:41
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I'd say technically they're making real ones, which if anything is even sweeter 
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Nov 9, 2021 15:44
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ClothHat posted:I remember my grandfather specifically talking about this during a long drive one time. From his description it did sound like tire breaks were a near constant issue, but that was due to how lovely a lot of the roads were at the time. My dad switched to decent radials in the 1960's, because he liked to drive fast. In the early 1970's he had a Caprice (400ci) with Michelins and some kind of suspension work, the car actually handled decently.
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Nov 9, 2021 16:33
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Sweevo posted:Power figures for old cars are basically complete lies. All those 60s muscle cars that claimed to have 350hp really had about 200, maybe 220 if you got a good one. Plus the fact that they were 14 foot barges that could barely go round a corner, and crumpled like paper and put the steering column through the driver's face in a 30mph crash... Crumpling like paper is a safety feature in modern cars. The car crumpling and absorbing the shock is a lot better than you, the driver, crumpling. They intentionally make them that way for a reason.
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Nov 9, 2021 16:52
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Yup. The kinetic forces involved in two 3,000 pound masses slamming into each other cannot be magicked away with engineering. The only choice is where you want that energy to go: into the machine, or into the fleshy skinbags inside it.
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Nov 9, 2021 16:59
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See, that's why I'd rather be thrown clear of the wreck. Furthermore, the reason why vaccines are harmful to your health which "scientists" don't seem to understand is that
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Nov 9, 2021 17:16
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This reminds me a reverse version of the thread title. References/things in modern media thats lost on People/media has the perception that modern cars "crumpling like paper" means they provide the safety of crumpled paper , so those rock solid frames of old cares are better. *turns into chunky salsa or a coma vegetable in a 5mph fender bender*
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Nov 9, 2021 17:33
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Speaking of old car safety, I'm suddenly reminded of a ridiculous stopgap measure that a few cars had around 1990: the automatic seat belt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-f4PuOVGos This was a terrible idea, and worse than useless for safety. You see, the shoulder belt was automatic but you still had to remember to buckle the lap belt part yourself. And because the shoulder belt made you feel like you were buckled in, the lap belt was easy to forget. And in a crash without the lap belt, you could slide downward and forward out of the seat and the shoulder belt would catch on your head. This could result in severe neck injury or even popping your head completely off. Yes, really. Article I just googled up posted:Unfortunately, this malpractice ended up killing many drivers and passengers during the time that automatic seat belts were popular. According to a report by the Tampa Bay Times, a 25-year-old woman was decapitated when the 1988 Ford Escort that she was riding collided with another car. It turns out that she was only wearing the cross-chest belt at the time. Her husband, who completely buckled up, came out of the accident with serious injuries. Fortunately, by the mid-90s, this stupid dangerous contraption had gone the way of the dodo and regular 3-point seat belts came back.
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Nov 9, 2021 18:45
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feedmegin posted:Crumpling like paper is a safety feature in modern cars. The car crumpling and absorbing the shock is a lot better than you, the driver, crumpling. They intentionally make them that way for a reason. Yep. The old "body on frame" automobiles didn't get damaged much in slow collisions, but they were terrible in any serious crash. Video to illustrate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPF4fBGNK0U 2009 Chevy Malibu vs 1959 Bel Air Crash Test
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Nov 9, 2021 18:52
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SpelledBackwards posted:See, that's why I'd rather be thrown clear of the wreck. Furthermore, the reason why vaccines are harmful to your health which "scientists" don't seem to understand is that I know this was a joke, but that also one of the reason there were so many fatalities/serious injuries back then. Almost nobody wore seat belts. Hell, they weren't even mandatory in American cars until maybe the mid-1960s.
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The super dangerous contraption existed because car companies really didn't want to do airbags, and got regulations written so that automatic seatbelts also counted.
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Nov 9, 2021 20:11
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MightyJoe36 posted:I know this was a joke, but that also one of the reason there were so many fatalities/serious injuries back then. Almost nobody wore seat belts. Hell, they weren't even mandatory in American cars until maybe the mid-1960s. To bring this back to the topic of cultural references... In the 50's there was this trend of sappy pop songs about dead loved ones from car crashes. When I was a young guy delivering pizzas my old car only had an AM radio and the only station that came in clear was an Oldies station which back then meant it only played songs from the 50s and 60s. I heard The Last Kiss by J. Frank Wilson & The Cavaliers at least three times a night. Well, where oh where can my baby be? The Lord took her away from me. She's gone to heaven, so I got to be good, So I can see my baby when I leave this world. We were out on a date in my daddy's car. We hadn't driven very far. There in the road, straight ahead ... The car was stalled, the engine was dead. I couldn't stop, so I swerved to the right. Never forget the sound that night ... The cryin' tires, the bustin' glass. The painful scream that I heard last.
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Nov 9, 2021 20:25
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VideoGameVet posted:Yep. The old "body on frame" automobiles didn't get damaged much in slow collisions, but they were terrible in any serious crash. Ok, this is my favorite thing. Someone watches a Youtube video and becomes an expert. There are a couple of things going on here. First of all, yes, cars are better than they were in the 1960s. This shouldn't be a surprise, there have been 60 years of engineering improvements between then and now. If you compared a car from 1909 to a 1959, the 1959 would be better in almost every aspect, except it probably wouldn't get around as well on really lovely roads since it lacks the ground clearance of the older car. The video makes a very good point in how far things have advanced from 1959 to 2009. However, looking at that video as the last word in the discussion misses a lot of things. One of the biggest is the publication of Unsafe at Any Speed, written by Ralph Nader. The broad thesis of the book is that auto manufacturers knew about risks to people inherent in their cars, had the technology to mitigate or eliminate these risks, and used regulatory capture of the government to suppress information about these risks and block the passage of laws to make cars safer all in the name of higher profits. The book and the growing movement towards reducing the dangers of driving caused a number of laws to be passed mandating safety features that were introduced by the later 60s. Focusing on the the exact car in the video and the fact that the 59 Impala had notoriously weak frame, even for the time, misses the point, just as focusing on the chapter about the Corvair in Unsafe at Any Speed misses the point of the book. It's not the exact details of a particular model, but the whole system that allowed a car with known safety issues to be sold to the public. The late 60s muscle cars, 68 and later, were decently reliable, fairly quick if ordered with the high performance engines, handled OK if ordered with the HD suspension, and had features like padded dashboards, 3 point seatbelts for the front seat occupants, headrests to prevent whiplash, and safety glass. The leap in technology from 1959 to 1969 is immense. Cars are on the whole safer today, there is something to be said about the dynamics of a crash and a heavy car vs a lighter car. That's giant modern body on frame pickup trucks do so much damage smaller unibody cars today, or in this vintage test film, why a full size 1971 Ford Galaxy absolutely annihilates at 1971 Pinto. This is largely where the idea that new cars are collapsible pieces of junk comes from, it's a holdover from when compact cars were introduced in the 1970s and they were indeed beer cans on roller skates. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xauHCEVsEJU&t=17s
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Nov 9, 2021 20:40
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Those is the EXACT lyrics used in a famous Pearl Jam song, aren't they!?
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Nov 9, 2021 20:41
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Vietnamwees posted:Those is the EXACT lyrics used in a famous Pearl Jam song, aren't they!? Yeah, Pearl Jam is covering a 1960s song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4-tsDkmPr4
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Nov 9, 2021 20:43
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The one that always made me livid was "Teen Angel", in which the dead girl died to save the hero's high school ring. (Guys used to give gals their school ring to show the relationship was important. I have no idea if they even bother to buy them nowadays.)
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Nov 9, 2021 21:04
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Arsenic Lupin posted:The one that always made me livid was "Teen Angel", in which the dead girl died to save the hero's high school ring. (Guys used to give gals their school ring to show the relationship was important. I have no idea if they even bother to buy them nowadays.) I graduated in 2011 and I sure didnt
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Nov 9, 2021 21:41
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At the beginning of his novel Christine, Stephen King wrote that there were 3 types of songs in the 1950s: Teenage Love Songs. Teenage Car Songs. Teenage Death Songs.
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PeterCat posted:Ok, this is my favorite thing. Someone watches a Youtube video and becomes an expert. Yes, I get this. I had a '68 Mustang in the 1980's and it was a quick decent automobile. The '68 Mercedes 200 Sedan I had in college had decent safety features. My '84 CRX (49 state 1500lbs version) would not have fared well in any crash and the two F150's I had (1998 and 2003) were tanks.
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