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Hadlock posted:My guess is that if more people understood their taxes, they'd be more incentivized to vote for a flat tax rate, which eliminates most personal income credits etc, speaking of which That's regressive, even with standard deduction in place.
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Hadlock posted:My guess is that if more people understood their taxes, they'd be more incentivized to vote for a flat tax rate, which eliminates most personal income credits etc, speaking of which This is a loving terrible idea Hadlock posted:The Czech republic has a 15% flat tax rate bzzzzt, wrong sorry, but the society has crumbled and we will now have to fight over irradiated rat carcasses to eat
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I'd be slightly more interested in your responses if you included any kind of value-add discussion rather than simply flatly refuting them  I'm willing to listen but being an rear end about it isn't really winning me over
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Arnt they changing that this year? And going to a progressive rate? Regardless flat-tax rates are bad. The mostly just benefit the rich.
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A flat tax disproportionately impacts those with less money. The rich should be taxed into oblivion, not the poor.
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chglcu posted:A flat tax disproportionately impacts those with less money. The rich should be taxed into oblivion, not the poor. 
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Hadlock posted:My guess is that if more people understood their taxes, they'd be more incentivized to vote for a flat tax rate, which eliminates most personal income credits etc, speaking of which A wrong idea in the wrong thread.
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Hadlock posted:I'd be slightly more interested in your responses if you included any kind of value-add discussion rather than simply flatly refuting them I wasn't the one pearl clutching about not knowing the US tax code Anyway, the short version of taxes in CZ: Until this year, the tax rate was "flat" "15%". However, this only applied to things like gains from funds, interest and other similar things. If you were actually contributing to society, your tax rate was higher, because there was a hidden 1.34 multiplier making your effective tax just over 20%. Oh and if you were working for living and made a lot of money (iirc 6x median), there was a "charity" (this is not the right word or translation, but I can't be arsed to go look up the old name) tax of another 7%. But yeah, we had "flat" "15%" tax rate, according to the right wing assholes who sold this to people and who claim this as their accomplishment.  This year and forward, the hidden multiplier was removed (loving finally, it was stupid af, and made doing taxes really annoying if you had income from diff country), and the "charity" tax was made into an official bracket with 23% taxes. Unsurprisingly, this kneecapped the state finances and was a massive handout to people who make a lot of money. There is also a complex system of tax credits and benefits, which further remove the idea of the tax being flat... Someone else can explain to you why flat tax is stupid.
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If "understands" means "Wants to pay as little as possible to the very thing which makes possible their success, externalizing the cost of having a society to that society's most vulnerable members" then I guess it tracks It always makes me go O_O when I realize that a lot of people don't seem to process the idea that someone can understand a system but not immediately seek to exploit it in the most cynical way possible
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Hadlock posted:I'd be slightly more interested in your responses if you included any kind of value-add discussion rather than simply flatly refuting them If you think it would be ok to tax someone with $12,500 income at the same rate as someone with $125,000 or $1,250,000, there is no point in even starting to explain because we don't have a common reference point.
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Hadlock posted:I'd be slightly more interested in your responses if you included any kind of value-add discussion rather than simply flatly refuting them
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poor person, wastrel: spends money mostly on food, bills, staying alive me, genius: spends money on non-fungible artistic assets, private fan-only sessions with artists, desktop sculpture clearly the working class does not appreciate the value of the dollar
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Wait, so taxes are good? We're pleased with how the government spends the majority of our money and we're arguing about who should be giving the gov more money?!
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B-Nasty posted:Wait, so taxes are good? B-Nasty posted:We're pleased with how the government spends the majority of our money and we're arguing about who should be giving the gov more money?! I don't live in US, so my answer is kinda? In US it would probably be hard no, because I think US military spending is completely loving stupid... but, uh, how do you think schools are paid for? roads? infrastructure? social security nets? basic loving research?
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where the gently caress were all you commie fucks when i got chastized for being a filthy socialist in this very thread not 4 yeras ago
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Fairly certain I wasn’t aware of this thread four years ago. I was busy being a filthy socialist elsewhere.
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I was gonna make joke about being filthy socialist enjoying free tuition, but actually the timelines on that don't line up
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I had a pretty bad meltdown I think, my rap sheet is only for NFL related probations though :thonk:
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hm idk if i was postin 4 years ago. i def didn't read yospos until i moved into infosec; not sure if i was reading other bits of SA
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I wasn't (considering myself) old four years ago.
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Xarn posted:Someone else can explain to you why flat tax is stupid. Pretty sure Hadlock is a Starlink bazinga so no, I'm not sure anyone can explain that to them. B-Nasty posted:Wait, so taxes are good? Yes quote:We're pleased with how the government spends the majority of our money No Good Will Hrunting posted:where the gently caress were all you commie fucks when i got chastized for being a filthy socialist in this very thread not 4 yeras ago I must not have been reading at that time because my post history ITT is comrade-driven since 2015 
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csammis posted:Pretty sure Hadlock is a Starlink bazinga so no, I'm not sure anyone can explain that to them. Ah so that's why I get a weird lovely vibe from their posts
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Skandranon posted:That capitalism isn't perfect doesn't mean communism is the obvious answer. I'm pretty sure far more people suffered (and died) tremendously more under communism in the USSR, and this is also very easy to look up. There it is!!!!!!!!
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Xarn posted:I don't live in US, so my answer is kinda? In US it would probably be hard no, because I think US military spending is completely loving stupid... but, uh, how do you think schools are paid for? roads? infrastructure? social security nets? basic loving research? almost everything the governent does that is observably useful (e.g. schools, roads, police) is funded by state government taxes. 8% of federal taxes go to safety net programs, 2% goes to research, 2% goes to education. (about half goes to medicare/medicaid and social security)
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yeah sorry i just don't buy that flat-tax advocates and other FYGMers would suddenly be fine with taxes if military spending were reduced. it's an obvious red herring
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wait are medicare and medicaid and social security not safety net programs now? am i misreading that horribly?
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have we gotten to the part where we talk about how regressive washington state's no income tax setup is
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Personal net worth should be stored in a 32-bit integer. Preferably signed.
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that's a terrible idea how do you account for fractions?? better use a a float
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I own a late 19th century house that really hasn't been that bad to upkeep. We've had to do stuff but mostly comparable to friends who bought more recent homes. Homes just cost a lot to upkeep kinda regardless. I know this isn't good oldie programming chat but its better than....whatever has been talked about in here the past 48 hours.
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Achmed Jones posted:that's a terrible idea how do you account for fractions?? Ok a 32-bit signed int of cents.
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speaking of tax and dev poo poo, any Canadians working in US tech have hot tips for taxes and whatever?
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hendersa posted:I had a another call with a different Google recruiter. It isn't all doom and gloom, though. I've been making great progress. The most discouraging thing is realizing just how much stuff I've forgotten over the years because I didn't need to use it. I've got something like a month left before my interviews. I haven't gotten the exact day scheduled yet. Some nights, I just feel like giving up on this. That's when I step away from the computer for an hour and go walk the dog or do laundry or something. It is very hard to stay motivated when you're at the end of a long day and exhausted. But... people manage to do this. They put the time in, they study and work through problems, and they get the job and get things done. I can do this. I... just don't exactly feel like I can every now and then. All my personal projects and reading are on hold. It feels like my whole life is on hold. But, you know... this is what it takes. I just don't know how I'll feel if I do all this prep and it doesn't work out. I guess I'll be in an excellent position to interview somewhere else? To explore what is out there? Who knows? I have a mail out to my recruiter asking for details on the two "embedded" interviews in my interview breakdown. I'm hoping that she gets back to me soon to give me a better feel for them. I mean, do you select the "domain" that you are interviewed on? Is the domain selected by an interviewer, based upon your resume? Something else? Who knows? Hopefully, the recruiter knows and she'll get back to me soon so that I can help focus my review efforts.
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Are you only planning to interview at Google? Because if so that's a huge mistake that a lot of people seem to make. Not only do you want multiple offers if possible, but interviewing is a numbers game. More interviews means more chances to not get screwed by factors outside your control whether that be bad interviewers, questions you aren't familiar with, etc. Even if you're set on only Google, which you shouldn't be, I strongly strongly recommend at least doing one other interview before as practice. asur fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Nov 10, 2021 |
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also being able to say "gently caress you raise my TC by 20%" and get zero pushback because you have a competing offer like, you can fight a lowball even without a competing offer probably, but when you have one it's basically a money passport
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Interviewing at several places at once is the best plan for sure. - You only do the prep once, but get to apply it to a whole bunch of interviews instead of just one, making all the prep a much more efficient use of time - You get to practice actual interviewing skills in real interviews which will help you do even better on the later ones - You can leverage your other offers to get more money when negotiating with your preferred employer - If you lose the interview lottery and your first choice turns you down, you'll hopefully have other compelling offers to choose from
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hendersa posted:So... progress update! I'm tired. Very tired. I've spent over 70 hours studying, working problems, and reading textbooks in the last 3 weeks since I spoke with the recruiter and received all of the standard prep materials. That's 2-3 hours each weeknight with a bunch more on the weekends. I've been very diligent up to this point, but I'm losing steam. I'm still working full time, so squeezing good study time out of the few cycles I have left at the end of the day is really a crapshoot. This is very relatable! I took a long time to study for interviews while working full time and I definitely gave up studying a few times then restarted but it ended up working out. The way I think of it is even if you're kinda on and off studying or not as focus as you could be, you'll still do way way better than someone who tries to cram everything the day or two before their interview. It sucks rear end while you're doing it and I think I honestly phoned it in a bit at work while i was studying a lot but you know what gently caress em and you got this. Also a few more weeks in the grand scheme of things ain't much. I found hitting a coffee shop to study or doing binarysearch.com with some programming buddies both worked well for giving me extra focus. Another good trick when you just need to loving lie down is to pull up some youtube nerds explaining how they solve leetcode questions. Kenny talks code was amazing but apparently Google yelled at him so he made all his videos private. Anyway there's lots of similar channels. Good luck!
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Hadlock posted:My guess is that if more people understood their taxes, they'd be more incentivized to vote for a flat tax rate, which eliminates most personal income credits etc, speaking of which You are naive Good Will Hrunting posted:where the gently caress were all you commie fucks when i got chastized for being a filthy socialist in this very thread not 4 yeras ago I was busy working in manufacturing 4 years ago RC Cola fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Nov 10, 2021 |
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hendersa posted:So... progress update! I'm tired. Very tired. I've spent over 70 hours studying, working problems, and reading textbooks in the last 3 weeks since I spoke with the recruiter and received all of the standard prep materials. That's 2-3 hours each weeknight with a bunch more on the weekends. I've been very diligent up to this point, but I'm losing steam. I'm still working full time, so squeezing good study time out of the few cycles I have left at the end of the day is really a crapshoot. I also think if I go through it all again that I'll try to do interviews across multiple days instead of all at once. I think I was getting worn out that way too.
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