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Linux is just a kernel. KDE makes a computer my ~/ home.
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pseudorandom name posted:I want to know how the Google a DLL name market is profitable enough that there’s like eight different sites that serve it I mean, if you own a site that attracts people who will willingly execute whatever dll you serve them…
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Nov 10, 2021 22:06
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when you eject a dvd on gnome it does this now brb unplugging sata drive
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Nov 10, 2021 22:14
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Progressive JPEG posted:when you eject a dvd on gnome it does this now
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Nov 10, 2021 22:38
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Nomnom Cookie posted:what if linux is also a bad server os, but anything that might have been better died of costing more than nothing chuckles in RHEL
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Nov 10, 2021 23:03
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NihilCredo posted:the tree of /usr/lib must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of packagers and maintainers
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Tankakern posted:i'd rather have shaggar posting in this thread than nomnom cookie 
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SYSV Fanfic posted:Linus is the closest the youth of today has to a leo laporte or a Jerry Pournelle. oof linus is kinda a clown but he's not someone who got notoriety by writing reactionary/fascist scifi and parlaying that into being a tech columnist even lumping laporte in with pournelle makes me cringe
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Nov 10, 2021 23:24
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BobHoward posted:oof
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NihilCredo posted:the tree of /usr/lib must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of packagers and maintainers
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Progressive JPEG posted:when you eject a dvd on gnome it does this now funny
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Nov 11, 2021 02:34
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lol at having optical media in 2021
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pseudorandom name posted:lol at having optical media in 2021
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NihilCredo posted:the tree of /usr/lib must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of packagers and maintainers
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Lsb (Living sacrifice blood)
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pseudorandom name posted:lol at having optical media in 2021 only temporary, was burning some linux iso cds to play on my 486 the desktop case doesn't even have a 5 1/4" slot on the front so the writer was sitting on the floor plugged into the open case
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optical media is good for airgaps. V. critical if you intend to be your own bank.
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Nomnom Cookie posted:POSIX in particular is very, very bad i like the documentation >:|
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Little known fact. Early on in the unix workstation game most offices had a bunch of dumb terminals that connected to a minicomputer. One of the selling points was that when you bought this $50k workstation, you could point all those text terminals at the workstation and give everyone in the office a big upgrade. The multiuser features of unix that made it such a poo poo single user experience were carried into desktop unix as a selling/marketing point. Not a technical one.
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Nov 11, 2021 13:31
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POSIX has SCCS in it. Every other version control system is nonstandard 
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I feel ambivalent towards POSIX - it's one of the better examples of interoperability standards we have, but I cannot for the life of me imagine working on an OS that's strictly POSIX (ie. only implements what POSIX defines, and nothing else). That just sounds like a loving nightmare. SYSV Fanfic posted:Little known fact. Early on in the unix workstation game most offices had a bunch of dumb terminals that connected to a minicomputer. One of the selling points was that when you bought this $50k workstation, you could point all those text terminals at the workstation and give everyone in the office a big upgrade.
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Progressive JPEG posted:only temporary, was burning some linux iso cds to play on my 486 oh so it was hot pluggable
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BobHoward posted:oof let me know when linus "accidentally" shows a bunch of his dickpics on a stream
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:It's such a bad feature that every version of Windows since the Chicago kernel in 1992 has had it. Windows would suck pretty bad too if it started up as windows terminal server and you connected to an rdp session via loopback. On your single user desktop. SYSV Fanfic fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Nov 11, 2021 |
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I'd like to point out that linus is still young and has 40+ years ahead of him where he can publicly gently caress up.
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well, if he wants to be this generation's leo laporte he'll need to accidentally show his dick a few times
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SYSV Fanfic posted:Windows would suck pretty bad too if it started up as windows terminal server and you connected to an rdp session via loopback. On your single user desktop.
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:If there was only one user, it would be the equivalent of the SA account in modern Windows or root on Unix-likes, much like the single-user system that DOS and Windows 3.x had. I wasn't talking about the entire concept of multi user. I'm talking about configuring the machine by default for multiple users. There was a reason why NeXT got so much acclaim. Like imagine desktop windows being configured so that multiple people could rdesktop in alongside the person sitting at the terminal by default. You'd have silliness like needing to give yourself permission to access the com ports.
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SYSV Fanfic posted:Like imagine desktop windows being configured so that multiple people could rdesktop in alongside the person sitting at the terminal by default. You'd have silliness like needing to give yourself permission to access the com ports. Am I missing a joke here? You absolutely can do that. The limitation of only one actively connected session is purely arbitrary and can be removed by loving with some dll. Hell, you can move an active local session to a remote rdp one, have someone else log in locally, and all it does is disconnect the remote (again, arbitrary limitation) but the session remains. And it's that way because the rdp and session part is taken from Windows Server.
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Antigravitas posted:Am I missing a joke here? You absolutely can do that. The limitation of only one actively connected session is purely arbitrary and can be removed by loving with some dll. Hell, you can move an active local session to a remote rdp one, have someone else log in locally, and all it does is disconnect the remote (again, arbitrary limitation) but the session remains. No, no joke. My professional knowledge of windows ends in like... 2008 or 2009. I have no idea what's been merged in since windows vista. There used to be a real divide between what was possible with windows server vs workstation/desktop.
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SYSV Fanfic posted:I wasn't talking about the entire concept of multi user. I'm talking about configuring the machine by default for multiple users. There was a reason why NeXT got so much acclaim. Suffice it to say, there's a lot of rose-tinted glasses going around when it comes to NeXT and Steve Jobs. I know how teletypes communicated with minis - but I don't see how that affects the reality that multi-user environment still benefits Unix-likes to this day; if it wasn't a multi-user environment, there wouldn't be such a thing as dropping privileges and anything you might want to run on the machine (such as a web server) would run under the same user you're using.
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SYSV Fanfic posted:No, no joke. My professional knowledge of windows ends in like... 2008 or 2009. I have no idea what's been merged in since windows vista. There used to be a real divide between what was possible with windows server vs workstation/desktop. this has been a feature since at least windows 2k. probably NT but i don't have much experience with that it's funny because as janky as X is locally, at least over a LAN it performed... well enough? but now with wayland remote stuff is absolutely better with RDP lol
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I got to use a NeXT cube. It was head and shoulders above AIXorHP-UX+X/CDE. The development tools also looked worlds better than c+athena/motif. I guess mostly I'm trying to convey the degree of privilege granted to the user at the console is reduced, and the complexity of configuring the system is increased. When you assume one single person (not user accounts) is using a computer, you get to make safe assumptions about who should be accessing the sound card, and what should happen to the systemwide defaults if someone plugs in USB speakers to the computer. Yeah, I believe that you could bypass the check. I question what it would have been like to have five people sharing a windows 2000 PC with winterms alongside someone using it as their desktop. SYSV Fanfic fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Nov 11, 2021 |
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Nov 11, 2021 17:30
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:maybe all software just sucks better things aren't possible
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josef bacik writes about upcoming on-disk format changes for btrfs Extent-tree-v2: Global Roots and Block Group Root
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Tankakern posted:josef bacik writes about upcoming on-disk format changes for btrfs imagine caring about this
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Somebody has to care so you don’t have to.
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Actually nobody has to care about btrfs.
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mystes posted:Actually nobody has to care about btrfs.
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