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Grendels Dad posted:Just wanted to ask if anyone wanted to execute any orders,on this here page? Go for it.
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CainFortea posted:Yea, I didn't feel nostalgic the first time I watched star wars. same. I was like 7 what would that even mean to a baby child
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Executive Order 67 was a proclamation signed by Chief of State Deelor Noedeel which ordered the Third Jedi Order to pursue diplomatic relations with the New Sith Order. https://swfanon.fandom.com/wiki/Executive_Order_67
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Order 1 was an order in the Catperial Army and Navy. The order stated that all available forces were required to pursue any traitor who attempted to take control of a planet important to the Catpire. https://swfanon.fandom.com/wiki/Order_1
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Grendels Dad posted:Just wanted to ask if anyone wanted to execute any orders,on this here page? Come back in about 80 posts.
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indigi posted:same. I was like 7 what would that even mean to a baby child I never had a "first" viewing of Star Wars but I recall that it always had an air of being old-fashioned and "classic" and unlike other old classics I actually found this appealing about it, probably because I could sense it was on purpose and not simply due to age. Probably can't call that nostalgia, but I could sense its timelessness before I had the words for it. I also remember watching the end of Return of the Jedi at 6 years old and having my mind completely and utterly blown. I was convinced I had just witnessed the greatest story ever told, and that it should be added to the bible.
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General Order 7 was a directive that forbade all contact with the planet Talos IV. https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/General_Order_7
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My various poorly informed and stupid but enthusiastic ideas about a new Kingdom Hearts make me wonder, would Darth Vader appear as a Heartless even after the original is redeemed and dead?
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Ghost Leviathan posted:My various poorly informed and stupid but enthusiastic ideas about a new Kingdom Hearts make me wonder, would Darth Vader appear as a Heartless even after the original is redeemed and dead? I wouldn't think so. In general, the Disney villains aren't Heartless, they're just assholes. They decide to work with Xenahort and the Heartless for their own reasons. The impression that I got is that you couldn't be made Heartless if you were already a shithead without any help.
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Don't most Kingdom Hearts levels start at some point before the end of the movie anyways? Darth Vader can go off on JRPG adventures and then repent for slaying anime Mickey Mouse later when he's dying on the Death Star.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Don't most Kingdom Hearts levels start at some point before the end of the movie anyways? Darth Vader can go off on JRPG adventures and then repent for slaying anime Mickey Mouse later when he's dying on the Death Star. Depends on the movie, the Tangled and Frozen worlds infamously are just abridged retellings of the movies because apparently Disney wouldn't let them do anything else, while Monsters Inc takes place after the first movie (and is one of the ones where the plot actually ties into the overarching one, since both Monsters Inc and KH proper involve weaponised emotions) as well as some others do. Apparently some real assholes appear as Heartless seperate from the originals but recognisable, even after the originals are dead, like Scar supposedly did. Would be fun to have a Darth Vader Heartless who's as much an incarnation of the terror and loathing that the figure inspired.
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https://twitter.com/michael_j_conte/status/1493773598657429509 https://twitter.com/michael_j_conte/status/1493856331421274113 https://twitter.com/michael_j_conte/status/1494358154666074122 Exciting new bloom-lore
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There is nothing exciting about the prequels and their lovely effects.
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I like the naboo starfighter and the pod race and Sebulba.
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Found a screenshot of the tool, pretty gnarly https://twitter.com/rodbogart/status/777676562426695681
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I like the naboo starfighter and the pod race and Sebulba. wow, weird, the one practical effects movie of the three is the one that actually stood up who would have guessed
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Jazerus posted:wow, weird, the one practical effects movie of the three is the one that actually stood up 
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josh04 posted:Found a screenshot of the tool, pretty gnarly  Nowadays compers usually have 2 monitors so the tools can be on one and the image on the other, and a bunch of artists looted monitors from the studios when WFH started so they wouldn't have to go back to this.
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Jazerus posted:wow, weird, the one practical effects movie of the three is the one that actually stood up Attack of the Clones alone used more miniatures than the entire original trilogy combined, and I think Revenge of the Sith had more physical sets than the entire original trilogy combined.
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Well. That's obviously not true.
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My source is well on its way to succumbing totally to link rot, so you may not find it persuasive.
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there's a bit of a game of telephone on how the prequels were made and why they look so bad. the practical effects were composited digitally, but that doesn't make them CGI. it also leads to arguments where people are talking past each other, with conversations "it looks bad because of [misunderstanding about how it was made]" and "wrong, actually it was made [a different way]." even if the latter is correct, it still looks bad
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Bongo Bill posted:Attack of the Clones alone used more miniatures than the entire original trilogy combined, and I think Revenge of the Sith had more physical sets than the entire original trilogy combined. and yet they also involved the whole cast talking to invisible people in front of green screens in every scene while still trying to give non-phoned-in performances, something which led many of them to the verge of breakdowns and which has left every single one of them with a lasting hatred of george lucas, so who can say what is good or bad
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Bongo Bill posted:My source is well on its way to succumbing totally to link rot, so you may not find it persuasive. I don't find it persuasive because there are far more locations in the 3 OT combined than any one other movie in the series. Even if every single set in RotS was practical it still wouldn't have more.
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Jazerus posted:and yet they also involved the whole cast talking to invisible people in front of green screens in every scene while still trying to give non-phoned-in performances, something which led many of them to the verge of breakdowns and which has left every single one of them with a lasting hatred of george lucas, so who can say what is good or bad The story of the actor having a breakdown about acting against a prop in front of a green screen was Ian McKellen working on The Hobbit, unless there's some other incident about Star Wars that I've never heard of. Certainly some of the actors in the prequels have acknowledged the difficulty of that kind of task, but this is the first I'm hearing of any bad blood they had with George Lucas personally. Do you have any more information about that? I'd really like to read about it. CainFortea posted:I don't find it persuasive because there are far more locations in the 3 OT combined than any one other movie in the series. Even if every single set in RotS was practical it still wouldn't have more. I apologize. After thinking about it for a while, I remembered what it was that I was misremembering: a much more prosaic statistic to the effect that Revenge of the Sith's sets were all constructed in a single enormous sound stage. The miniatures thing, however, is true. The dead image links in the linked thread were photos of the construction and filming of miniatures throughout the prequel trilogy. And the broader point is that all three of them use many different kinds of effects, including more practical effects than the originals (because they have far more effects overall).
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All the talk about unmotivated actors in the PT is really funny if you follow it while looking at the screenshot from that one interview with the ST cast where they all look pissed off or sad.
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Prequel trilogy actors: yeah I'll fight in the Star Wars Sequel trilogy actors: just go to youtube and type John Boyega the star wars
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Ian McKellen's "breakdown" is largely an anecdote about him being given a bunch of nice pillows by the cast:quote:He said: ''I had a miserable day. In order to shoot the dwarves and a large Gandalf, we couldn't be in the same set. I don't think it's the slam on the concept of cg sets that it gets reported as.
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josh04 posted:Ian McKellen's "breakdown" is largely an anecdote about him being given a bunch of nice pillows by the cast: "It really sucked but a different scene set up more traditionally was nice" does seem to support the claim that acting in a CG void can be harrowing.
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I was assuming it was just a nice little tent they had on set for him to chill out in.
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McKellen's point seems to have been that it's more difficult to act when the other actors aren't there when you're acting, not that it's difficult to act without a visible backdrop. Actors have been acting in a "void" for thousands of years, but typically they have done so together. In that particular case, the effect that required him to do that wasn't CGI at all, but rather the series' famous scale trick, which, although it used a green screen, just replaces the chroma key with other footage. It's very much a practical effect. There were a few scenes like that in Star Wars, but it was largely when the CGI character was too complex to be substituted by a puppet or by the character's voice or mocap actor, for instance against the monsters in the arena.
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What is “bloom”
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indigi posted:What is “bloom” Bloom lighting. It's when a brightly lit or glowing object on the screen is surrounded by a sort of fuzzy glow or halo effect.
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tbh just imagine the look of any given attack of the clones shot, and that's probably what bloom looks like
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indigi posted:What is “bloom” Bloom is the halo effect that sometimes appears in spots of very bright light when photographed - specifically when it "blooms" beyond the boundaries of the actual object being illuminated. The reflections of the set lights on 3PO's head and shoulder here are blooming, and creating flares of light that extend beyond his actual body. If he were being filmed against a bluescreen, that semi-transparent light bloom would make it a lot harder to separate him from the background, especially if it were being filmed with primitive early 2000's digital cameras.  The prequels tried to implement fake bloom a lot of the time for scenes where characters were sitting in front of bright windows to help integrate the crisp edges of the characters against the bluescreen. It got better as they went along, but never really stopped looking like big soft blobs surrounding everything, because the interior and exterior are both properly exposed and you shouldn't really be getting any bloom at all.    
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I don't really see the issue, but then I've also had my opinions adjusted by video games that went kinda bloom-crazy back when it was a new thing that could be done by graphics engines. Much like how when you look back at comics when they started to go digital, they go wild with gradients. http://gangles.ca/2008/07/18/bloom-disasters/
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indigi posted:What is “bloom” He played the elf
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Bongo Bill posted:McKellen's point seems to have been that it's more difficult to act when the other actors aren't there when you're acting, not that it's difficult to act without a visible backdrop. Actors have been acting in a "void" for thousands of years, but typically they have done so together. And the actors weren't there because they were digitally composited into the image later, a type of computer generated image. The void was one of loneliness, acting with no feedback from the other actors, because having them present posed insurmountable challenges for the later digital composite. You are being pedantic and you're still not technically correct.
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Cease to Hope posted:And the actors weren't there because they were digitally composited into the image later, a type of computer generated image. The void was one of loneliness, acting with no feedback from the other actors, because having them present posed insurmountable challenges for the later digital composite. It is commonly understood that compositing and generating images are separate processes, and that doesn't stop being true when they both use computers. If, however, I somehow gave you the impression that I think acting without other actors isn't hard, then that was a failure of communication on my part, and I apologize. I thought your use of the phrase "CGI void" referred to a chroma key backdrop, where a set would be composited in later. A chroma key backdrop is fundamentally no different from a stage. The breakdown discussed earlier was specifically about the difficulty of acting against many characters whose actors were absent from the set. McKellen's case was a very extreme one, where he was acting alone for a scene that that would have fourteen other characters densely interacting in a confined space. That's an extraordinary challenge for any actor, and understandably very stressful to attempt. But it isn't CGI that makes it so. The other characters in that scene weren't even CGI, just filmed separately. (And it also isn't the digital compositing that makes it so either, because similar fake-scale effects have been done many times with physical compositing.) I am not aware of any actor coming to personally dislike George Lucas due to having been assigned challenging acting tasks, or having a breakdown for the same reason in the course of filming a movie with George Lucas. However, if it did happen, I would like to read about it so that I can share my thoughts.
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Yeah, compositing (optical or digital) is distinct from CGI; its most basic form would be a split screen image, or picture-in-a-picture. You could call it an optical (or digital) effect, and the two (or many, many more) source images being composited could themselves be CGI, but it's not CGI in and of itself.
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