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Gentle Autist posted:builds monster gaming rigs for himself even though he doesn’t play video games thats fine to do 
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Captain Foo posted:there is seriously no reason to ever engage with ltt
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Nov 13, 2021 01:45
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he's the big bang theory of tech youtubers
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Nov 13, 2021 01:46
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Captain Foo posted:there is seriously no reason to ever engage with ltt*
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Nov 13, 2021 02:02
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he’s not particularly interesting if you’re the kind of person who’d post in a crusty old forum about linux, but i do think it’s nice that his channel is driving at least a few quasi-normal people toward linux because linux on the desktop is coming and it will be glorious.
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Nov 13, 2021 02:27
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SYSV Fanfic posted:Probed via linus's tip. Makes that guy close to laport I guess. Contrast this with the IRIX seating functionality, whereby multiple people can work on the same program from multiple different sets of monitor+keyboard+mouse connected to the same session - I recall seeing a demo video of 4 people working on different parts of the same 3D object at one point. A similar thing got added to XFree86 and is still in Xorg to this day, called multiseating - but outside of a demo I did of it using FreeBSD at a LAN more than a decade ago, I've never actually seen it in use.
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Nov 13, 2021 02:34
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writing real software that strictly conforms to POSIX is basically impossible. i tried doing it once with a toy program and it was still an enormous PITA. once you get to writing actual cross-platform code, POSIX is basically a list of things that are supported by all but one of the platforms you're targeting
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Nov 13, 2021 02:49
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Speaking of multiple people working on the same machine and things LTT gets wrong, one of the things people talk about being impressive that LTT does is the N people 1 machine nonsense, but that's just regular virtualization-based multi-tenancy which has been possible ever since x86 got hardware-accelerated virtualization. That actually sounds kinda cool and would be a kickass way to collaborate. But I can see how complicated the programming can get.
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Nov 13, 2021 03:49
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why would you put that in the display system instead making the individual programs client-server, since you're going to have to do that for all of them anyway
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Nov 13, 2021 03:53
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pseudorandom name posted:why would you put that in the display system instead making the individual programs client-server, since you're going to have to do that for all of them anyway b/c the display system was already client/server.
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Nov 13, 2021 03:58
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sb hermit posted:That actually sounds kinda cool and would be a kickass way to collaborate. But I can see how complicated the programming can get. pseudorandom name posted:why would you put that in the display system instead making the individual programs client-server, since you're going to have to do that for all of them anyway
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Nov 13, 2021 04:00
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if four people are working on the same model simultaneously then you're going to need to structure your application such that there is a "server" that maintains coherent state of your data and separate clients of that data that the individual users are interacting with, since you already have to do that at the application level to make that work, why bother doing it in the display server?
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Nov 13, 2021 04:22
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pseudorandom name posted:if four people are working on the same model simultaneously then you're going to need to structure your application such that there is a "server" that maintains coherent state of your data and separate clients of that data that the individual users are interacting with, since you already have to do that at the application level to make that work, why bother doing it in the display server? You don't. One program owned by one user was just getting client events from multiple sources, and the x-server was just multicasting the results it rendered. Think of it like per window vnc. For people that never used old poo poo: X is network oriented because originally the X terminals connected to a computer in the datacenter, just like a text terminal. X terminals were a real, expensive thing. Their most popular use was same as today - running a terminal emulator that could emulate a lot of different dumb terms. My super computer lab used HP x-terms.1600x1200 displays with BNC rgb connectors, three button mouse, and floppy drive. Desktop environment was CDE, originally a big selling point was they had netscape navigator and maple. By 2003 the primary use was people who had realized no one monitored, audited, or limited the internet traffic coming from the rs/6000 if it was coming from a program running under an x-session. The only time I have ever used remote X was when I realized I could save $100 on a student maple license with ssh -X.
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Nov 13, 2021 04:29
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Tangentially related to that, the reason X got its name is because it was one better than the W windowing system on an operating system called V. Someone made a port of X for the i386, and called it X386. Then someone else made a free implementation called XFree86.
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Nov 13, 2021 04:40
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If anyone's never done C GUI programming, typically you have a function in your code that gets called by the windowing system/OS when something happens. Just like a signal handler for console stuff. It has a lot of if/then code for different types of events, like mouse over, click, keypress, etc. You wouldn't have to make the 3d editing program client/server - you'd just have to add code there to check the xclient the events were coming from - if you even cared. Adding to that if/then block is 100x more approachable for programmers than client/server.
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Nov 13, 2021 04:48
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oh you're talking about MDI with multiple pointers and cursors this is significantly lamer than I was assuming
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Nov 13, 2021 04:50
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pseudorandom name posted:oh you're talking about MDI with multiple pointers and cursors
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Nov 13, 2021 04:51
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Tangentially related to that, the reason X got its name is because it was one better than the W windowing system on an operating system called V. you have to admire the incredible directness of the old naming conventions.
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Nov 13, 2021 05:22
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pseudorandom name posted:oh you're talking about MDI with multiple pointers and cursors I bet you've never even stopped to admire a gravel road.
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Nov 13, 2021 05:52
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Are you talking about collaborative programming/remote pair programming? Because that's a fairly new thing, as traditionally merges are done with a VCS. Absolutely not. I would never do collaborative programming or remote pair programming this way. Mostly because I don't believe in pair programming unless someone is actively teaching someone else a thing (which doesn't really fit in the pair programming paradigm but hey, some boxes have to be checked). And collaborative programming is better done independently with a well architected codebase paired with a good VCS like ... like any distributed vcs out there such as mercurial or git. I can see rare cases where multiseating programming could be helpful, but you'd really have to work at it. The 3D modeling thing looks good... a more accessible but effective solution might be collaborative document creation or a whiteboard or other brainstorming toolkit, where people can sit in their own space and churn poo poo out but they can easily ask for help or pair with someone else to refine an idea. Now that I think about it, live collaboration would be much harder unless the collaborators are in the same room, or unless they had some explicit training on how to do remote collaboration effectively. Because it's easier to offer or request feedback, advice, or other kinds of help if you can understand the other person's mood or mode of thinking, which typically requires reading body language. Other than that, I think the other good solution was what someone mentioned before - a hardware dongle or a good piece of equipment that ties data and software to a specific server.
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Nov 13, 2021 06:12
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infernal machines posted:you have to admire the incredible directness of the old naming conventions. I just realized I've absorbed a pattern where if something is called FreeThing I expect it to suck, but if it's called OpenThing I expect it to be at least decent.
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Nov 13, 2021 09:46
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NihilCredo posted:I just realized I've absorbed a pattern where if something is called FreeThing I expect it to suck, but if it's called OpenThing I expect it to be at least decent. what about LibreThing
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Nov 13, 2021 11:19
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my family was pretty poor when we were kids but us kids were all computer heads so we scrounged up a couple of cheap poo poo pcs by the mid-late 90s. my older brother somehow pieced together a good 486 with 32 megs of ram over the years and he'd run linux on it and me and my younger brother would connect to it and run apps (and a lot of freeciv matches between us 3 and our neighbours) over X from there since loving nothing except xterm worked on our lovely machines otherwise, but that way we got to see the smooth world of a high power 486 lol so my take is X existing in network client/server form is the best loving thing ever
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Nov 13, 2021 12:15
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Where did you all get 386s? All I could find in dumpsters/yardsales at that point were XT/AT clones.
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Nov 13, 2021 13:01
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Raluek posted:what about LibreThing don't think I associate anything with it, sample size too small. the only one I use is libreoffice
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Nov 13, 2021 13:48
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NihilCredo posted:don't think I associate anything with it, sample size too small. the only one I use is libreoffice libressl
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Nov 13, 2021 14:55
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Gentle Autist posted:linus seems fine to me if a bit dystopian in his love of consume consume consume he's like tim the toolman taylor but instead of loving up with power tools he's loving up with expensive computer stuff that was given to him for free
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Nov 13, 2021 15:48
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Raluek posted:what about LibreThing trash and also unmaintained but with a tiny group of rabid adherents who think using anything else is fascism
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Nov 13, 2021 22:11
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akadajet posted:he's like tim the toolman taylor but instead of loving up with power tools he's loving up with expensive computer stuff that was given to him for free also so far as we know he’s never rolled over on his friends to the cops so far as we know
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Nov 13, 2021 22:13
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eschaton posted:trash and also unmaintained but with a tiny group of rabid adherents who think using anything else is fascism agreeing for once, with libreoffice as a notable exception
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Nov 13, 2021 22:16
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sb hermit posted:even that will likely change if we have to switch to 64-bit timestamps or larger. y2k caught us by surprise, y2k38 is a pain to fix, but by god we will be prepared for y292g
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Nov 21, 2021 15:33
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Soricidus posted:y2k caught us by surprise, y2k38 is a pain to fix, but by god we will be prepared for y292g I have a vague memory of talking with people in around 1997 or 1998 who were preparing for it, and they weren't the only ones. As far as I remember, the reason there weren't bigger problems back then is that so many companies had prepared for it.
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Nov 21, 2021 19:03
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Who is "us"? the world, realizing that while computer touches may be wizards they are also incredibly short-sighted
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Nov 21, 2021 19:21
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y2k ready. mod saas posted:the world, realizing that while computer touches may be wizards they are also incredibly short-sighted A lot of the world's paper forms were also not y2k ready.
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Nov 21, 2021 20:10
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I just booted MPE/V in SIMH’s HP 3000 emulator and learned that SIMH has a scripting variable for “the two- or four-digit year of the 1900s whose days line up with this year” since lots of old systems have never had Y2K mitigation so my MPE/V system thinks it’s 1993 if QEMU’s PA-RISC support ever adds the right set of peripherals to emulate an A400/A500/rx2400, it’ll be possible to boot “modern” MPE/iX (and pretty awesome)
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Nov 22, 2021 00:30
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:Who is "us"? yep. one of my first tech jobs was archiving a bunch of interoffice communications for a regional company and they had started a few years prior, based on the carbon copies i saw
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Nov 22, 2021 00:42
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simh is cool as heck, but even if i know how impossible an expectation it is, i wish it was it was cycle-accurate
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Nov 22, 2021 00:53
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when did KDE get good??? outside of not having some hotkeys set for workspace switches out of the box & having some dumb widgets I clicked "remove" on from the taskbar... it's really good. Manjaro's breath2 2021 theme is solid outside of the mid 90s themed titlebars but those are linux tradition. sincerely, a terminal gnome3 user who got sick of it having trash performance on io limited & low power hardware. The only bad functionality of KDE so far has been that the digital clock is unreadable on a vertical taskbar. I'm sure I will have more complaints about how workspaces work with multiple monitors if I try it on a desktop or with an external monitor. MacOS has the best implementation I've seen (each monitor has separate sets of workspaces that don't switch together). The rest of MacOS sucks though. Khorne fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:software: possibly subject to change.
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