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Hahahah, so if I downloaded that thing on the Switch, the game bundle contains a bunch of useless DOC files? This is such a beautiful train wreck.
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Nov 13, 2021 01:45
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I wonder if the stuff they cut from the original 3 because of 9/11 is still in there.
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Nov 13, 2021 01:45
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Blue Moonlight posted:Hahahah, so if I downloaded that thing on the Switch, the game bundle contains a bunch of useless DOC files? Yeah looks like it's all just sitting in the ROMFS
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Nov 13, 2021 01:53
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This GTA Remaster leak is just the kind of beautiful messy drama I love.
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Nov 13, 2021 02:01
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Barudak posted:This GTA Remaster leak is just the kind of beautiful messy drama I love. It's not a "leak" or "drama", it's just old comments in scripting files.
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Nov 13, 2021 02:02
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Fame Douglas posted:It's not a "leak" or "drama", it's just old comments in scripting files. I'm sorry I used sloppy verbiage to refer to snippy comments between devs complaining that what other people implemented doesn't work so they've kludged a different solution, being accidentally revealed to the public when it was never intended nor should it be seen by them.
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Nov 13, 2021 02:08
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Fame Douglas posted:It's not a "leak" or "drama", it's just old comments in scripting files. The release is also a broken lovely mess that looks worse than the PS2 games.
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Nov 13, 2021 02:10
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Yes, that's what comments in code tend to be like. Coopting weird drama-Youtuber and Kotaku verbiage is unbecoming.
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Nov 13, 2021 02:11
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Maybe they could have fit the trilogy on a 16GB Switch cart after all if they didn't include a ton of random word documents and poo poo lol
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Nov 13, 2021 02:13
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Before it came out, I had read an article or two about how terrible a job the company that Rockstar farmed this out to did on previous GTA ports. I, at least, just kind of wrote it off as sour grapes from people disappointed that it didn’t meet their lofty expectations, but this is pretty amateur hour. At least we’ll get to learn more about the games and their development.
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Nov 13, 2021 02:14
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Barudak posted:I'm sorry I used sloppy verbiage to refer to snippy comments between devs complaining that what other people implemented doesn't work so they've kludged a different solution, being accidentally revealed to the public when it was never intended nor should it be seen by them. you got fame douglas'd
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Nov 13, 2021 02:20
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Fame Douglas posted:It's not a "leak" or "drama", it's just old comments in scripting files. Private source data for three major IP's they own has gotten out into the world unsecured through one of their own products due to incompetence. It's a leak by any definition. Also Rockstar have pulled The Definitive Trilogy from the Rockstar Launcher to scrub the exposed code out of it  . I expect there's some serious code-review going on as well from their own guys.
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Nov 13, 2021 02:33
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I hope rockstar goes in and fixes them
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Nov 13, 2021 03:04
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Honestly I expect the single biggest one is including music they dont have the license for
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Nov 13, 2021 03:10
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yeah when RS says "unintentionally included files" they mean "the music we don't have the license for and the RIAA is gonna gently caress us"
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Nov 13, 2021 03:38
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I wish they worked harder to get all the original music back. There’s a lot of good ones missing, especially for Vice City.
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Nov 13, 2021 07:04
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With music licensing it's less "work hard", more "can you fund the license again"? No amount of hard work is gonna make that bill go down. Some of the songs are probably a fair bit pricier to license than when they first did so.
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Nov 13, 2021 11:36
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Leaving aside that Rockstar absolutely has the money to license the music back: They could have at least added substitutes that fit the spirit of the games.Neddy Seagoon posted:Private source data for three major IP's they own has gotten out into the world unsecured through one of their own products due to incompetence. It's a leak by any definition. It's some mission scripts, "private source data" is really overselling this.
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Nov 13, 2021 11:48
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Fame Douglas posted:It's some mission scripts, "private source data" is really overselling this. Thought it was pretty clear they accidentally just distributed internal tools, source code, build batch files, dev notes, and unlicensed music (as well as the mission scripts)
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Nov 13, 2021 12:24
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ALL SEX IS IN https://twitter.com/ThisPurpleCat/status/1458880644021473286 https://twitter.com/the_agent_man/status/1459317181934624772
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Nov 13, 2021 13:11
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repiv posted:ALL SEX IS IN It truly IS the definitive edition! 
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Nov 13, 2021 13:51
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Fame Douglas posted:Leaving aside that Rockstar absolutely has the money to license the music back: Not to leave it aside completely, Rockstar doesn’t just have a massive bank roll any project can grab from. Someone pitched this idea with projected revenue and asking for a budget, and they probably either knew up front or during discovery that the costs to license a specific handful of songs wasn’t worth blowing their budget out and requesting more money, or they wanted to allocate money elsewhere to meet deadlines (like developer capacity).
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Nov 13, 2021 14:18
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I can't stop thinking about how large of a percentage of people playing the Definitive Edition won't notice the missing music because they weren't born yet when the original releases happened.
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Nov 13, 2021 14:28
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The Dave posted:Not to leave it aside completely, Rockstar doesn’t just have a massive bank roll any project can grab from. Someone pitched this idea with projected revenue and asking for a budget, and they probably either knew up front or during discovery that the costs to license a specific handful of songs wasn’t worth blowing their budget out and requesting more money, or they wanted to allocate money elsewhere to meet deadlines (like developer capacity). Yes, and they should have budgeted a bit more to license replacement tracks for their low-effort cash in remaster of the most popular series of all time. I don't get why "but they had a budget" is somehow an excuse.
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Nov 13, 2021 14:49
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Fame Douglas posted:Yes, and they should have budgeted a bit more to license replacement tracks for their low-effort cash in remaster of the most popular series of all time. I don't get why "but they had a budget" is somehow an excuse. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/take-two-interactive-software-inc-stock-rises-friday-outperforms-market-01636755952-53cfcca6040b https://ir.take2games.com/static-files/6b111d0a-2dbb-4fce-ac78-146292ee7e25 *Take Two opens coin purse and a fly comes out*
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Nov 13, 2021 15:01
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Capitalism is about hoarding wealth, not putting it to any beneficial use. What if this release only netted $490 million instead of $500 million? Just think of what the investors would say.
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Nov 13, 2021 15:33
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Dr. Spitesworth posted:Capitalism is about hoarding wealth, not putting it to any beneficial use. What if this release only netted $490 million instead of $500 million? Just think of what the investors would say. The less they spend on developing it, the more profit they make when it releases! 
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Nov 13, 2021 15:40
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Neddy Seagoon posted:The less they spend on developing it, the more profit they make when it releases! That's basically it. Take Two wanted this out hell or high water for the holiday season. The crazy thing is publishers haven't figured out yet in today's world that if you release something broken you aren't going to be able to get away with it anymore. The word of mouth travels too fast and you can potentially poison the well for the future as well. You are better off eating the costs and either cancel a title outright or spend the extra time to make it up to snuff. What is crazy in this case is Take Two didn't even announce this until fairly recently, so they could have done either without any fanfare. They had to have known the state this thing is in so they have no excuse other than wanting to dupe people. I guess we now know exactly why they were gunning to kill the source ports, since they make this look even worse.
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Nov 13, 2021 16:12
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Fame Douglas posted:Yes, and they should have budgeted a bit more to license replacement tracks for their low-effort cash in remaster of the most popular series of all time. I don't get why "but they had a budget" is somehow an excuse. Because no one is skipping this release because Billy Jean is missing, and the game has a ton of bugs and lovely assets that need more focus. Those things are inexcusable for a full priced title.
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Nov 13, 2021 16:34
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^^^ yeah we understand why they did the cheapest and easiest thing we just think that such a popular and profitable series of games deserves a lot better than that. The recent Tony Hawk 1+2 remake had 5 songs that they couldn't re-licence so they added in 36 new ones. Tbh a remaster that simultaneously has no interest in maintaining and preserving the original experience while also offering nothing substantially new or improved is just kinda sad. Like the only selling point of this collection in my eyes is that they were so sloppy that a bunch of interesting stuff they didn't want us to see got packed in lol.
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Nov 13, 2021 17:02
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I think the problem is the price. Everything else screams budget, from the game to the general lack of marketing.
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Nov 13, 2021 17:06
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They budgeted it so all it took was one sale to make back all costs and have some profit.
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Nov 13, 2021 17:11
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Leal posted:They budgeted it so all it took was one sale to make back all costs and have some profit. Having it announced with zero trailer or game footage at the relatively-last minute should've been a red flag really That sort of thing only happens when the studio knows they have a trainwreck on their hands.
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Nov 13, 2021 17:35
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Having it announced with zero trailer or game footage at the relatively-last minute should've been a red flag really That sort of thing only happens when the studio knows they have a trainwreck on their hands. Nintendo being the exception to that: "Check out this really cool thing that we made. Oh, by the way, we're releasing it in three hours."
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Nov 13, 2021 18:01
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Random Stranger posted:Nintendo being the exception to that: "Check out this really cool thing that we made. Oh, by the way, we're releasing it in three hours." Different dynamic; They tack those onto the Directs as a hype-builder to give their fans a little something right now on top of what's coming over the next few weeks/months.
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Nov 13, 2021 18:03
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Random Stranger posted:Nintendo being the exception to that: "Check out this really cool thing that we made. Oh, by the way, we're releasing it in three hours." When was the last time something good came from this? Actraiser sucked.
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Nov 13, 2021 21:39
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It obviously has some technical issues that haven’t been fixed yet but I really like the Actrasier remake. More than the original game.
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Nov 13, 2021 21:49
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Yeah the Actraiser remake owns.
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Nov 13, 2021 21:59
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https://twitter.com/hiddenpalaceorg/status/1459676563222446082?s=21 Hell yeah.
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