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Jonny 290 posted:you are correct, you can just run the app when you need to make changes. i only do the docker crap because i'm a huge dweeb oh goddammit lol i thought it was linux-only or something like that yeah idk then, as long a it's multiplatform then for me there's not a huge difference between phone app/web app/native app i mean im still not gonna go out and buy ubiquiti poo poo cause the thing im not messing with is workin, but if it stops workin when i move then yeah, that's on the table if i need an upgrade. thanks!
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Achmed Jones posted:wait im lookin at https://www.ui.com/download/unifi/default/default/unifi-network-application-6454-macos a subset of features requires persistence, otherwise you may just use the regular desktop application to handle the regular configuration
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Achmed Jones posted:oh goddammit lol i thought it was linux-only or something like that it needs a jvm installed to work and only oracle java or corretto work without some fuckery, otherwise it's fine and like a five minute install on windows. it doesn't run as a service though, you can make it run as a service, but it's not the default and the upgrade process is a bit different if it's running as a service. so you have to manually launch the controller if you have the default install and you want to use the management interface.
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Achmed Jones posted:now that it'll be reasonably possible to run ethernet through the ceiling/wall we might do that. do this it’s the loving best
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infernal machines posted:it needs a jvm installed to work and only oracle java or corretto work without some fuckery, otherwise it's fine and like a five minute install on windows. it doesn't run as a service though, you can make it run as a service, but it's not the default and the upgrade process is a bit different if it's running as a service. so you have to manually launch the controller if you have the default install and you want to use the management interface. it works with openjdk
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Gentle Autist posted:it works with openjdk see https://gist.github.com/cam8001/456f5dbb1872bf974ac42a55269c18ad
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yes, with some fuckery to get it to do so, hence why i specified that it works with oracle java and corretto without fuckery, because the conversation was about it being simple or complicated to set up and run. and AJ was talking about running the controller on windows specifically
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macos actually but same difference, fuckery is fuckery 
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infernal machines posted:yes, with some fuckery to get it to do so, hence why i specified that it works with oracle java and corretto without fuckery, because the conversation was about it being simple or complicated to set up and run. and AJ was talking about running the controller on windows specifically which bit of that gist is the “fuckery”? barely any of it is even java related. it appears to install openjdk 8 and then set the standard java_home environment variable?
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Soricidus posted:which bit of that gist is the “fuckery”? barely any of it is even java related. it appears to install openjdk 8 and then set the standard java_home environment variable? yeah it is about as difficult to launch as any other software written in java, the “fuckery” here is having to use a computer after 9/11
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Soricidus posted:which bit of that gist is the “fuckery”? barely any of it is even java related. it appears to install openjdk 8 and then set the standard java_home environment variable? well, for example, on windows, as of a few months ago, it was not a matter of just setting the java_home variable on openjdk. but also, even having to set the java_home variable, and having to update that every time you update the jdk or it will break, i guess, since the whole conversation has been about not having to janitor things. i was specifically referring to the windows installation of it, not realizing that jones was thinking of macos. of course if you're using linux you can expect to have to manually set path variables and whatever else, you're already janitoring things anyway, and you probably don't care if you also have to janitor the unifi control server infernal machines fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Nov 13, 2021 |
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i've change my mind. definitely don't use UBNT products, at least without a turnkey management solution because you'll be left to the mercy of the kind of people posting itt
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use the dang phone app to provision the AP, then dont touch it for 5 years. sheesh
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Raluek posted:use the dang phone app to provision the AP, then dont touch it for 5 years. sheesh seriously i dont understand all this panty pissing over it
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Jonny 290 posted:seriously i dont understand all this panty pissing over it apparently you have to mess around with 9000 jdk variants and environment variables and idk wtf i've never had to do any of that bullshit
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yeah this is like the android thread complaining how hard it was to change wallpapers on ios like ok then dont use it
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it's more people say "i won't use it and this is why" and then folks tell them that they're wrong for that being the reason or how they get around the pain in the rear end or what benefits offset the PITA for them some people call this "conversation" and consider it a good thing! for my part i learned more about ubiquiti stuff so i'm glad for the discussion. sounds like it's kind of a tire fire if i have to dick with JVM settings to run a client app but at least now i know the docker stuff isn't at all necessary Achmed Jones fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Nov 14, 2021 |
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Achmed Jones posted:sounds like it's kind of a tire fire if i have to dick with JVM settings to run a client app you don't have to do this either. it's just people 
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i just think its a moral failing to bring computer toucher work home with you. your free time is 100% better spent not touching computers as much as possible and i have experienced great happiness in pursuit of this goal and i want yall to have that too 😘
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The_Franz posted:you don't have to do this either. it's just people gonna sound snarky but genuine question: if you don't have to then why would someone do it in the first place? i 100% understand the docker dorkery (waves hands at his unraid setup) but JVM config/tuning doesn't streamline or isolate or anything like that - for little client apps there's no point beyond getting it to run ( unless it's a high performance thing...but this isn't ). so i don't know what the end goal of messing with it is, if you don't need to do that to make it function
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Casual Encountess posted:i just think its a moral failing to bring computer toucher work home with you. your free time is 100% better spent not touching computers as much as possible and i have experienced great happiness in pursuit of this goal and i want yall to have that too 😘  what network poo poo do you use? i use google poo poo and it's fine but i would prefer a bit better configuration interface. i liked netgear's configuration interface fine but it didn't work very well (couldnt handle video calls for work very well)
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i use the router my isp gave me, works fine and it's got plenty of wired ports and the wifi works really well vOv
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Achmed Jones posted:gonna sound snarky but genuine question: if you don't have to then why would someone do it in the first place? i 100% understand the docker dorkery (waves hands at his unraid setup) but JVM config/tuning doesn't streamline or isolate or anything like that - for little client apps there's no point beyond getting it to run ( unless it's a high performance thing...but this isn't ). so i don't know what the end goal of messing with it is, if you don't need to do that to make it function no clue, that entire tirade on previous page about this having some kind of trick to it was completely cryptical to me. i didn’t have to do anything beyond starting the app for it to work, and the only “weird” java setup was that my pi had some kind of problem that wasn’t related to the software at all
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got a homepod mini in blue and trying this 3 mo free apple music. i am digging yung bae's groove continental radio. <3 future funk
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Casual Encountess posted:i just think its a moral failing to bring computer toucher work home with you. your free time is 100% better spent not touching computers as much as possible and i have experienced great happiness in pursuit of this goal and i want yall to have that too 😘 i will never stop touching my computer at all times just today i've been reinstalling my home automation raspberry pi 4 to switch it from 32 to 64-bit, backing up, updating, restoring and reconfiguring openhab3 and a ton of plugins weewx weather monitoring (with Weather34 addon) mosquitto mqtt server for controlling a bunch of homemade rollerblind motors nut-server for UPS monitoring telegraf for scraping prometheus data from a bunch of https://www.airgradient.com/diy/ kits influxdb2 and grafana for charting all this crap it's the best
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r u ready to WALK posted:i will never stop touching my computer at all times bro u missed to install an app in that one folder on the left
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i'm laying on little jones bed while he colors in his mario coloring book on the floor. we're listening to night tempo and it's a good time i took a bunch of crap off the walls. movers come tomorrow! i still have to take down his number line but l might wait until the movers have taken everything out i forgot to ever buy a hard case for my jazzmaster. i'll use the soft case i have for my old esp and just move the esp without a case. i hope nothing gets hosed up though  i'll call guitar center to see if we can swing by today to grab one but the website shows everything out of stock so i'm not hopeful
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just throw some bubble wrap around it op
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cinci zoo sniper posted:no clue, that entire tirade on previous page about this having some kind of trick to it was completely cryptical to me. i didn’t have to do anything beyond starting the app for it to work, and the only “weird” java setup was that my pi had some kind of problem that wasn’t related to the software at all afaict it boils down to “some java installers on windows don’t set an environment variable the app assumes they will”, which would be a huge problem if the app was intended for non-technical users
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Chris Knight posted:just throw some bubble wrap around it op ngl rondo music managed to ship me a five string bass in a cardboard box with some inserts and foam and the goddamn thing wasnt even more than a half step out of tune
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Achmed Jones posted:i forgot to ever buy a hard case for my jazzmaster. i'll use the soft case i have for my old esp and just move the esp without a case. i hope nothing gets hosed up though if gc doesn’t have hard cases, check and see if they have shipping boxes and if you can bribe one of the staff into giving you. i would also recommend asking local used gear shops if you have any around about buying a shipping box off them, or if they have a case that might fit. fortunately guitars ship well in cardboard and bubble wrap, though i suspect movers may be less careful than shippers… but it’s not like you need to ship a mac pro, so you wont have to dig up 40 pounds of cardboard and styrofoam and seal it in with a blood pressure cuff
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Achmed Jones posted:i'm laying on little jones bed while he colors in his mario coloring book on the floor. we're listening to night tempo and it's a good time ugh I love sonic youth
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greg the peanut posted:ugh I love sonic youth i won a first place award at the Arkansas High School Press Association convention in 1996 for the review I wrote on Washing Machine
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Jonny 290 posted:i won a first place award at the Arkansas High School Press Association convention in 1996 for the review I wrote on Washing Machine Cliche choice but Skip Tracer is a good track
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my new macbook pro 14inch with m1 pro makes lightroom sing and it's so much more fun to edit photos now on the go
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top banner picture on the verge atm a lovely reminder of apples comedy keyboard era: :format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/70132975/arobertson_211031_4861_0003.0.jpg) also the priorities of verge writers, rather an immobile/keyboardless laptop than switching to something else
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I did that for a year and a half though I used the Good apple keyboard (the one that took AAs) and it didnt need a cardboard thingy.
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Jonny 290 posted:I did that for a year and a half though I used the Good apple keyboard (the one that took AAs) and it didnt need a cardboard thingy. so good i bought a refurbed one as a spare. i gave it to my folks recently and it is still trucking along fine
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Casual Encountess posted:i just think its a moral failing to bring computer toucher work home with you. your free time is 100% better spent not touching computers as much as possible and i have experienced great happiness in pursuit of this goal and i want yall to have that too 😘 
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:top banner picture on the verge atm a lovely reminder of apples comedy keyboard era: lol
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