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But now I have a virtual on site that is supposed to last for like 4 hours and I'm supposed to make a powerpoint presentation about myself?? (30 minutes, at least 10 slides)
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BONGHITZ posted:But now I have a virtual on site that is supposed to last for like 4 hours and I'm supposed to make a powerpoint presentation about myself?? (30 minutes, at least 10 slides) are you applying for a professorship or something
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BONGHITZ posted:But now I have a virtual on site that is supposed to last for like 4 hours and I'm supposed to make a powerpoint presentation about myself?? (30 minutes, at least 10 slides) put pictures of your genitals on it
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Nov 12, 2021 22:41
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Achmed Jones posted:put pictures of your genitals on it put pictures of the interviewers gentials on it
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Nov 12, 2021 23:16
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from the interviewer side, what’s a good way to approach a candidate that interviewed well but isn’t quite qualified for the position they applied for? the guy did really well, but applied for a lead position where he definitely fits in better at the senior level
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Nov 13, 2021 01:46
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The Fool posted:from the interviewer side, what’s a good way to approach a candidate that interviewed well but isn’t quite qualified for the position they applied for? if you can actually offer the senior position right away, i'd say you can just be candid about it. tell them that they have a competent profile, but it doesnt match the lead role as close as the company would've liked it, so you choose to offer them senior role instead. you should, however, resist the temptation of dangling the "growing into lead (eventually)" carrot unless youve actually grown multiple internal seniors into lead roles if you cant offer them the senior role, i dont know if its worth the trouble to do anything more, just write a polite and slightly sad rejection letter cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Nov 13, 2021 |
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Nov 13, 2021 02:03
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if you’re not extending an offer at the lower level you’ll appear to be gaslighting them. are they trying to jump from IC to management with the lead position?
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Nov 13, 2021 02:51
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I had a company who had a pretty interesting product suite to me ask me to put together a 20 min presentation about the subject of my choice and I taught them the intricacies of running an NFL style cover 2. I did no research for this because it's one of the things I'm personally interested in and they complimented me on my ability to present and actually offered later on in the loop. I declined due to a better off I received. There is now a senior product leader, a vp of engineering and a vp of solutions who now know entirely too much about the cover 2, including preferred characteristics of personnel (corners who like to tackle), common cover 2 beaters (3 deep routes to stress the 2 man coverage shell over the top) , and how common route combinations such as spacing, slant/flat and flood concepts stress the cohesion of the defense. If you tell me anything, well....it's going to be something easy for me
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Nov 13, 2021 07:30
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ugh, I'm sick of this job hunting thing. On Monday I'm going to swallow my pride and just write a few rear end-kissing cover letters for whatever lovely jobs are available and go from there.
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Nov 13, 2021 08:12
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The Fool posted:there’s a few different ways to do it just loving lie. lie all the time. this is a negotiation/business transaction, not a place to show off your moral character.
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ultravoices posted:just loving lie. lie all the time. this is a negotiation/business transaction, not a place to show off your moral character. I’m struggling to come up with a business setting where moral character would be the right choice
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champagne posting posted:I’m struggling to come up with a business setting where moral character would be the right choice dont snitch to management
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Raluek posted:dont snitch to management
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Raluek posted:dont snitch to management a not my business decision
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Waroduce posted:If you tell me anything, well....it's going to be something easy for me that’s probably exactly what they were looking for tbh
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raminasi posted:that’s probably exactly what they were looking for tbh +1 ultravoices posted:just loving lie. lie all the time. this is a negotiation/business transaction, not a place to show off your moral character. poo poo advice if you find yourself lying in a professional situation you failed at being creative enough to come up with an alternative story that doesnt gently caress you if investigated you really never need to lie just be more creative
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unless you mean lying by omission which appears to be a critical business skill
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hobbesmaster posted:unless you mean lying by omission which appears to be a critical business skill shutting the gently caress up is a critical business skill lying by omission is fake news
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Nov 14, 2021 01:10
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shutting up is the ultimate omission!
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cinci zoo sniper posted:if you can actually offer the senior position right away, i'd say you can just be candid about it. tell them that they have a competent profile, but it doesnt match the lead role as close as the company would've liked it, so you choose to offer them senior role instead. you should, however, resist the temptation of dangling the "growing into lead (eventually)" carrot unless youve actually grown multiple internal seniors into lead roles offering a senior roll would be delayed by a few days just because of hr hoops, but do-able there’s a not insignificant number of guys that have been here for 5-10 years and gone through the junior->lead or senior levels so it’s definitely a thing that happens hobbesmaster posted:if you’re not extending an offer at the lower level you’ll appear to be gaslighting them. are they trying to jump from IC to management with the lead position? our lead engineer positions are still on the IC track but have specific expectations regarding mentoring and training responsibilities in addition to subject matter expertise this guy had good technical skills but couldn’t speak to mentoring experiences, and wasn’t as strong in subjects specific to the position
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The Fool posted:offering a senior roll would be delayed by a few days just because of hr hoops, but do-able if i were you, i would just lay it out like initially suggested in this case - sounds safe to mention career growth, should mention hr bit, and I would also offer them to have a 30 minute chat with some junior-lead trekker about their experience in case the candidate cares
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ultravoices posted:just loving lie. lie all the time. this is a negotiation/business transaction, not a place to show off your moral character.
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CarForumPoster posted:+1 You see I wasn't lying, I was just being creatively imaginative 
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today i was involved in a batch of interviews and it really highlighted how arbitrary this process can be. it was for next year's interns and last year all the candidates ranged from, 'ugh, no' to 'well... i guess they're fine'. we were eventually able to decide on a handful of them to hire this year it's been, 'god damnit i want to hire every single one of them they're all excellent. gently caress!!' and we're going to have to decide which ones we extend an offer to, somehow so yeah. if you feel like an interview went really well and still get rejected, it could have just been you were unlucky and all the other candidates were similarly stellar. poo poo sucks
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you're a very lucky interviewer if you get to choose between stellar candidates my interviewing experience is pretty depressing, about 10% of the candidates i talk to are communicative/knowledgable/enthusiastic enough to have a good conversation with, they invariably get offers had a guy the other day who was monologuing incoherently about his projects for 5-10 mins and would definitely have gone on for 20 mins if we didn't interrupt him
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Mr SuperAwesome posted:(...) communicative/knowledgable/enthusiastic enough ... Pick two
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50% of the guys i interview have 0, so two is a good candidate
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champagne posting posted:Pick two definitely the first two, enthusiasm is for baseball games not computers
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champagne posting posted:Pick two data science is a middle finger
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Achmed Jones posted:definitely the first two, enthusiasm is for baseball games not computers Baseball? Don't talk to me about baseball. Baseball is so dreadful, just thinking about it makes me depressed... (I probably butchered it)
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https://twitter.com/richgel999/status/1462939893743640581 What's this all about? Is this even remotely accurate? Guy is a former dev at valve where they definitely pull over 300k cash.
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qhat posted:https://twitter.com/richgel999/status/1462939893743640581 Below are base salary, not total comp. Best case scenario double it for total comp unless you're getting monopoly money where then yea maybe you can pull $200K base and $500K in options at a Series C startup in best-case-scenario conditions. That said I dont hire in the bay so grain of salt there. CarForumPoster posted:On that note heres what you should make in for a SW engineer by level and area. This assumes that the levels are 1-6 with 6 being a high technical expert. I only posted 1-5. This is for all company sizes. Generally, Seed/Aeries A round startups will be on the lower side and mega corps will be on the lower side except for the FAANGs.
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I've seen that chart before, I already know it. The guy in the tweet is specifically referring to video game experience and meta specifically, I was wondering if there is anyone else in the gaming industry who are seeing these rises. I already know that salaries are up in this industry at least 50% from this time last year, but that guy is suggesting that it's possible to demand 750k from Meta and not get immediately laughed out of the building, which is frankly obscene if there's even a hint of truth to that.
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sometimes people like to say "i got a 1m offer!!!" because they got an offer for 250k a year for four years. it's dumb but people do it. i doubt thats whats happening here though cause nobody talks that way past their first offer unless they're a recruiter 750k a year TC isn't realistic even for faang in figgieland for senior, much less for mid-level (which is what "5 years experience" is) Anything Is Possible through stock growth, of course, but by definition that can't be part of an offer im talkin general software, not games, but i have a hard time believing that games has suddenly shot past the rest of the industry after being behind for so long. but maybe facebook is going really hard for game devs 
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a googleplex of trillionaire companies cannot afford to pay their workers or their population
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dude we're talking 350k instead of 750k this is not penury
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Achmed Jones posted:sometimes people like to say "i got a 1m offer!!!" because they got an offer for 250k a year for four years. it's dumb but people do it. i doubt thats whats happening here though cause nobody talks that way past their first offer unless they're a recruiter 750k seems extremely over the top, I don't think I would have the balls to ask for that even from Meta. Games and especially games engine programming is interesting because it's insanely difficult and involves virtually every technical field you learned about in your degree, especially if you're working at the systems level. From the jobs I saw at meta, there were some demanding experience in developing kernel drivers, hypervisors, memory allocation strategy and TLB management, and other extremely esoteric fields. Can someone who can do all that get 500k from one of the richest companies in the world who are trying really hard to push this weird VR chat clone? I dunno, maybe. That would be life changing money though.
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yeah i think those peeps would be like, 350 -> 500 job, which isnt life changin cuz the life changed already at 350 maybe you get a second supercar or something
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i do wonder what the "our company enables genocide and child rape" tax is. if facebook _isn't_ paying more than the rest of faang then thats real weird. maybe theres enough people who dont care who is hurt by what they build though (what a depressing thought) tbh to make me start even _considering_ facebook they'd have to get high-six/low-seven figgies and frankly i like to think that even that wouldn't get me to work for them. but i do recognize that i have a price - that's one reason i wont talk to their recruiters. i dont want to give them a chance to find it
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