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Red Notice was pretty whatever, but I actually thought Gal Gadot was at her best? I guess the only mode of believable acting from her is charismatic ahole
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Nov 14, 2021 21:00
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red notice: it's a movie
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Nov 14, 2021 21:25
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Despite having the most predictable twist ever I still enjoyed its execution.
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Nov 14, 2021 21:29
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It's just as dumb as you'd expect, but if you like Ryan Reynolds and Dwayne Johnson then well, it's that. Gal Gadot actually speaks somewhat naturally when she's not saying Wonder Woman poo poo. I think it could have been a lot better if they leaned into the action parody aspect. I think they were trying for it but just failed to make the general jokes land a lot of the time. A lot of shots made me laugh out loud the first time I saw them, but upon a quick check when not intoxicated, it seems like what was obviously a goofy parody before (in my mind) just plays as lame action, and now I can't tell. For instance, was the obnoxious sequence of Porsche logo shots right before it is immediately wrecked a legitimate Porsche product placement, or a parody of all the BMW poo poo or any other luxury car product placement in movies? Or both? I can't tell.. I enjoyed it more than the last few higher profile action movies on Netflix but don't take that as super high praise or anything. It's a good movie to watch with people when you're probably talking over it anyway. edit: and Chris Diamantopoulos is, as usual, better than he should be Glottis fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Nov 14, 2021 |
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Nov 14, 2021 21:46
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Hitmans bodyguard 2 is also on Netflix and is pretty much interchangeable with Red Notice, but has a LOT more sweating and a neat cameo.
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Nov 14, 2021 22:34
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I really loved season 1 of American Horror Story, but it seems like the other seasons have been really hit or miss. I didn’t care for season 2 (it was a bit too busy for me) and didn’t watch another season until Apocalyse, which was merely okay. I just binged 1984 in 3 days on Netflix, however, and really enjoyed it, especially the dark humor aspect. So I have a question from other AHS fans: what other seasons am I missing out on? Thanks in advance!
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Nov 15, 2021 05:52
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raven77 posted:I really loved season 1 of American Horror Story, but it seems like the other seasons have been really hit or miss. I didn’t care for season 2 (it was a bit too busy for me) and didn’t watch another season until Apocalyse, which was merely okay. I just binged 1984 in 3 days on Netflix, however, and really enjoyed it, especially the dark humor aspect. So I have a question from other AHS fans: what other seasons am I missing out on? Thanks in advance! The show has been discussed at length here. It's a Ryan Murphy show, so its quality is pretty unreliable. The fans are generally divided between those who like the more horror driven seasons and those that are more campy. You've liked both, so I'm not sure anyone can really direct you in the right direction of what other seasons to like. Especially since you're watching out of order, and Apocalypse was definitely was one of the worse ones, and was a direct sequel to a horror driven season (Murder House) and a camp driven season (Coven).
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Nov 15, 2021 06:37
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raven77 posted:I really loved season 1 of American Horror Story, but it seems like the other seasons have been really hit or miss. I didn’t care for season 2 (it was a bit too busy for me) and didn’t watch another season until Apocalyse, which was merely okay. I just binged 1984 in 3 days on Netflix, however, and really enjoyed it, especially the dark humor aspect. So I have a question from other AHS fans: what other seasons am I missing out on? Thanks in advance! Of the ones you haven’t watched yet, Roanoke is the least bad.
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Nov 15, 2021 07:12
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Watching Harder They Fall and finding it a mixed experience. The film looks good, and I'm interested in the story. But there's a huge cast of badasses and endless scenes of them posing menacingly and then being badasses and humiliating non-badasses ... It feels like it needs to be dialed back at least 50%
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Nov 15, 2021 08:21
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I feel like Freakshow (AHS S4) doesn't get enough credit. The Wes Bentley episode is amazing. I'm also surprised to see Coven is generally disliked, that's one of the better ensemble casts in the series.
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raven77 posted:I really loved season 1 of American Horror Story, but it seems like the other seasons have been really hit or miss. I didn’t care for season 2 (it was a bit too busy for me) and didn’t watch another season until Apocalyse, which was merely okay. I just binged 1984 in 3 days on Netflix, however, and really enjoyed it, especially the dark humor aspect. So I have a question from other AHS fans: what other seasons am I missing out on? Thanks in advance! Freakshow is the next best one imo, Roanoke and Hotel are ok.
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Nov 15, 2021 13:34
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Wolfsheim posted:I'm also surprised to see Coven is generally disliked, that's one of the better ensemble casts in the series. This is exactly what I was talking about above. People like different things in the show, and those that love the campiness generally find Coven to be the best. I have issues with it mostly due to the fact that there are no consequences for anything that happens that season, and nobody stays ever stays dead.
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Nov 15, 2021 14:18
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nonathlon posted:Watching Harder They Fall and finding it a mixed experience. The film looks good, and I'm interested in the story. But there's a huge cast of badasses and endless scenes of them posing menacingly and then being badasses and humiliating non-badasses ... It feels like it needs to be dialed back at least 50% Honestly that's one of the things I loved about the movie. I love westerns but pretty much all modern ones are just dour ultra serious slogs so it was nice to have one that was actually fun to watch.
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Nov 15, 2021 14:20
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I thought Red Notice was pretty embarrassing for everyone involved. There's really not an aspect of it that I would say is good. It looks cheap, the action isn't impressive, Johnson and Reynolds don't have nearly the amount of chemistry they seem to think they do, and Gadot's acting makes me cringe. I watched Jungle Cruise the next day and it's 10X better.
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Nov 15, 2021 15:42
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Basebf555 posted:I watched Jungle Cruise the next day and it's 10X better. Jungle Cruise was pretty much exactly what you'd expect from it. If you're looking for Pirates of the Caribbean but on a river boat, then it's exactly what you'll get. Not a great movie by any means, but perfectly enjoyable. One change I would have liked to have seen: Jack Whitehall's gay brother character should have found a love interest. Maybe when he is separated from his sister, he could have found a boyfriend with one of the locals and opted to stay behind and not return to England. They went through great lengths of explaining how his life in England is miserable, and he was only there to look out for his sister. But I guess that would be pushing Disney too far, they already kind of acknowledged that the character was gay, it would maybe too much for them to have a gay man in a Disney film to lead a fulfilling life, even in a fantasy film like this one.
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Nov 15, 2021 16:15
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Nihonniboku posted:Jungle Cruise was pretty much exactly what you'd expect from it. If you're looking for Pirates of the Caribbean but on a river boat, then it's exactly what you'll get. Not a great movie by any means, but perfectly enjoyable.
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Nov 15, 2021 16:20
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nonathlon posted:Watching Harder They Fall and finding it a mixed experience. The film looks good, and I'm interested in the story. But there's a huge cast of badasses and endless scenes of them posing menacingly and then being badasses and humiliating non-badasses ... It feels like it needs to be dialed back at least 50% I think it's a camp take on westerns, or at least camp-adjacent. The actors all being in permanent smolder mode and trying to out-badass each other with every line is what makes the film entertaining.
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Nov 15, 2021 16:28
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My problem with The Harder they Fall is that it sounds like it should be a sequel to The Harder They Come.
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Nov 15, 2021 16:30
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mystes posted:My problem with The Harder they Fall is that it sounds like it should be a sequel to The Harder They Come. I was about 1/4 of the way in before I realized that this wasn't going to have any Jamaica connection.
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Nov 15, 2021 16:34
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Nihonniboku posted:Jungle Cruise was pretty much exactly what you'd expect from it. If you're looking for Pirates of the Caribbean but on a river boat, then it's exactly what you'll get. Not a great movie by any means, but perfectly enjoyable. I watched Jungle Cruise the other night and thought it was totally fine and totally forgettable but weirdly I thought that Blunt and Johnson needed better characters but also Whitehall and Plemons had good characters that needed to be more important parts of the movie.
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Nov 15, 2021 16:43
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raven77 posted:I really loved season 1 of American Horror Story, but it seems like the other seasons have been really hit or miss. I didn’t care for season 2 (it was a bit too busy for me) and didn’t watch another season until Apocalyse, which was merely okay. I just binged 1984 in 3 days on Netflix, however, and really enjoyed it, especially the dark humor aspect. So I have a question from other AHS fans: what other seasons am I missing out on? Thanks in advance! I really only got into Asylum. Anywho.....Curb has been running hot so far this year. Great stuff from Larry David. This last episode with Woody Harrelson and the "cream shaming" is just too stupid funny. Homerun.
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Nov 15, 2021 16:51
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Vanilla Bison posted:I think it's a camp take on westerns, or at least camp-adjacent. The actors all being in permanent smolder mode and trying to out-badass each other with every line is what makes the film entertaining. I can sort of see that. Everyone is a one dimensional figure that's permanently at 110%, with their own distinguishing gimmicks. Film is still too drat long.
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Nov 15, 2021 17:59
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Judas and the Black Messiah was great but it was odd seeing thirty somethings play nineteen and twenty year olds.
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Nov 15, 2021 18:50
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How does M. Night Shyamalan keep getting big swings? Took over ten years since 'The Village' (which wasn't all the great) or about 14 years since 'Signs' to hit with 'Split'. 'Old' is closer to 'The Happening' with it's torture porn premise than it is with any of the movies that he's actually given good credit for. Blah. That was bad.
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Nov 15, 2021 19:05
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It's cause he slaps and makes movies for rather cheap.
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Nov 15, 2021 19:10
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Yeah, his last like five movies each cost less than $20MM. He's firmly in the Blumhouse stable, and he's almost guaranteed to recoup budget opening weekend--far from big swings.
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Nov 15, 2021 19:13
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The Modern Leper posted:Yeah, his last like five movies each cost less than $20MM. He's firmly in the Blumhouse stable, and he's almost guaranteed to recoup budget opening weekend--far from big swings. I suppose if 'Old' were made by a no-namer....it'd maybe get some attention. Difference is....an no-namer would have probably made it for pennies on the dollar. MNS keeps pulling people in on the mystery factor.
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Nov 15, 2021 19:16
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punk rebel ecks posted:Judas and the Black Messiah was great but it was odd seeing thirty somethings play nineteen and twenty year olds. Yeah. It's hard to fault the casting, because Daniel Kaluuya and Lakeith Stanfield are very good, but their characters' respective manipulation by the FBI and assassination might have hit even harder if they'd been portrayed by actual teenagers.
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Nov 15, 2021 19:16
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He's definitely a valuable commodity in a world where it seems like everything has a budget of 100+ million, his stuff has a high success rate because he can still draw enough of an audience that something like The Visit or Old will still make something like 4X it's budget. Plus, when he does do something like Glass, which you'd think would be his opportunity to work with a bigger budget, nope he still makes it for around $20 million and then a $200 mil box office looks like a huge success. The crazy thing is even his high profile flops still weren't financial disasters. The Last Airbender made about twice it's budget and After Earth made not quite as much but still definitely made some money. But I think he's definitely thought of these days as a guy who can reliably turn $20 million into $100 million and that's actually a pretty rare ability, to be able to consistently do that. RestingB1tchFace posted:I suppose if 'Old' were made by a no-namer....it'd maybe get some attention. Difference is....an no-namer would have probably made it for pennies on the dollar. MNS keeps pulling people in on the mystery factor. Yea exactly, he still has enough name recognition that he can bring people in to the tune of 100ish million whenever he makes a movie. The trick is to just not go too crazy with the budgets, which is a balance that he and/or the studio seem to have nailed down pretty well. Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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Nov 15, 2021 19:22
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Basebf555 posted:He's definitely a valuable commodity in a world where it seems like everything has a budget of 100+ million, his stuff has a high success rate because he can still draw enough of an audience that something like The Visit or Old will still make something like 4X it's budget. Plus, when he does do something like Glass, which you'd think would be his opportunity to work with a bigger budget, nope he still makes it for around $20 million and then a $200 mil box office looks like a huge success. Very interesting. No question that a movie built upon the premise of a big twist/mystery could garner some interest. Especially when you attach his name to it. Didn't realize his movies still brought in big box office numbers considering that he's had a ton of flops.
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Nov 15, 2021 19:30
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RestingB1tchFace posted:Very interesting. No question that a movie built upon the premise of a big twist/mystery could garner some interest. Especially when you attach his name to it. Didn't realize his movies still brought in big box office numbers considering that he's had a ton of flops. I think what happened with him is he had that run of critical flops that hurt his credibility with the sort of people who were holding him up as like the next coming of Hitchcock or whatever. But when you actually look at the numbers, the only one that you can point to where a studio would've had cause to think twice about hiring him again was Lady in the Water. Everything else at least made some money, even if it was a critical disappointment and maybe didn't make as much as what the studio hoped. So I feel like the perception of him by critics versus his standing with the people who were hiring him and paying him to direct movies were drastically different there for a while.
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Nov 15, 2021 19:35
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Basebf555 posted:I think what happened with him is he had that run of critical flops that hurt his credibility with the sort of people who were holding him up as like the next coming of Hitchcock or whatever. But when you actually look at the numbers, the only one that you can point to where a studio would've had cause to think twice about hiring him again was Lady in the Water. Everything else at least made some money, even if it was a critical disappointment and maybe didn't make as much as what the studio hoped. I hear yah. 'Old' was loving stupid.
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Nov 15, 2021 19:39
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Sir Kodiak posted:Yeah. It's hard to fault the casting, because Daniel Kaluuya and Lakeith Stanfield are very good, but their characters' respective manipulation by the FBI and assassination might have hit even harder if they'd been portrayed by actual teenagers. Yeah both actors were phenomenal especially Stanfield. But in the beginning where the bar patrons yell “he’s just a kid!” made me chuckle. And O’Neil being manipulated by the Todd from Breaking Bad would have hit harder as he wanted a father figure. Fred Hampton would have been more impactful as you would realize that he’s essentially just a (the film even hints at this) but his charisma, dedication, and knowledge carries him). I did find Todd from Breaking Bad’s character falter a bit from him going from “it’s just a job” to thinking “maybe we are the baddies?” to just wanting to kill Hampton at all costs.
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I didn't have a problem with the characters in The Harder They Fall, but the plot didn't make much sense to me and the gunfight scene was shot in a geographically confusing way Here are some of the questions I had while watching the movie: Why was Rufus Buck pardoned? If he was pardoned, why did the gang have to break him out? Why did the marshal blow up that wagon at the start of the climax? Why didn't Rufus want the marshal to be killed? And the big one: why did Rufus send Nat to rob a bank, only to give himself up at the end with a big speech? Seems like he could have done that the first time Nat came into town
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Nov 15, 2021 19:45
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Deadite posted:I didn't have a problem with the characters in The Harder They Fall, but the plot didn't make much sense to me and the gunfight scene was shot in a geographically confusing way Deadite posted:
So his gang could be used to clean up a bit of military corruption- also they're a black gang in the west in the 1800s, they could be rejailed at any time for any reason Deadite posted:
Because the pardoner was going to assign a specifically corrupt military troupe to guard him and wanted them killed to silence them/remove the corruption. Deadite posted:
To scare everyone and show they mean business and to make a funny arm joke. Deadite posted:
He wanted to corrupt Nat and force him down to his own level, and to raise money. He gave himself up because Nat's gang had decimated his own and he was going to lose, but he had accomplished something by forcing Nat to go against his own values. Answered as best I could.
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Jerkface posted:So his gang could be used to clean up a bit of military corruption- also they're a black gang in the west in the 1800s, they could be rejailed at any time for any reason Thanks, that does clear some things up, although the pardon plot seems needlessly complicated for this kind of movie. I kept waiting for that to come back up at some point but it never went anywhere.
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Nov 15, 2021 20:04
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Glottis posted:It's just as dumb as you'd expect, but if you like Ryan Reynolds and Dwayne Johnson then well, it's that. Gal Gadot actually speaks somewhat naturally when she's not saying Wonder Woman poo poo. Ryan is trying to make the movie good. He's really trying. He also clearly now has a personal scriptwriter writing all of his dialogue because he's playing himself playing Deadpool playing an art thief brought to you by his person brand of Gin and mint mobile. (they'll save that ad for the sequel). I'm now thinking the Rock is queer, because goddamn he has had zero chemistry with either of his female leads the last two movies I've seen him in (Jungle Cruise). Ryan has more chemistry with everyone. Nothing wrong with that. LionArcher fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Nov 15, 2021 |
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Nov 15, 2021 20:12
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Deadite posted:Thanks, that does clear some things up, although the pardon plot seems needlessly complicated for this kind of movie. I kept waiting for that to come back up at some point but it never went anywhere. There is a lot in the The Harder They Fall that is needlessly complicated. For example robbing a bank, bringing the money back to town, blowing it up, then faking Nat's death - all for the sake of killing a single random lackey.
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Basebf555 posted:He's definitely a valuable commodity in a world where it seems like everything has a budget of 100+ million, his stuff has a high success rate because he can still draw enough of an audience that something like The Visit or Old will still make something like 4X it's budget. Plus, when he does do something like Glass, which you'd think would be his opportunity to work with a bigger budget, nope he still makes it for around $20 million and then a $200 mil box office looks like a huge success. M Night Shyamalan becoming the 21st Century John Carpenter seems on par with everything the 21st century has given us so far.
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