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Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?
I'm kind of getting sick of the hovercraft. They're only fun for the driver. If you're a gunner 95% of drivers just blitz everywhere at max speed. Your screen is just a blur of passing terrain.

If you're fighting them they move too fast to hit with the Recoilless Rifle, so you need to:
  • Run across 100m of open ground to get from one point to another, and then get run over.
  • Hide behind a concrete wall, then have it crash though, and then get run over.
  • Move inside a building, watch it come through the super-wide doors, and then get run over.

Adding even minimal damage for ramming structures would go a long way to making it killable by anything other than skylords and MBTs.

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veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


I hate the lack of scoreboard. I don’t care if they don’t put K/Ds on blast but at least rank everyone by overall score and let me see my own stats.

hello internet
Sep 13, 2004

veni veni veni posted:

I hate the lack of scoreboard. I don’t care if they don’t put K/Ds on blast but at least rank everyone by overall score and let me see my own stats.

Im not sure about console but if you hit tab on PC you can see all your stats. There may be a binding for it for controller

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

hello internet posted:

Im not sure about console but if you hit tab on PC you can see all your stats. There may be a binding for it for controller

hold the 'start' button (which is now whatever each console calls it. but its the hamburger button on xbox)

it just shows your squads stats, not the whole server.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

MMMPH MMMPPHH MPPPH GLUCK GLUCK OH SORRY I DIDNT SEE YOU THERE I WAS JUST CHOKING DOWN THIS BATTLEFIELD COCK DID YOU KNOW BATTLEFIELD IS THE BEST VIDEO GAME EVER NOW IF YOULL EXCUSE ME ILL GO BACK TO THIS BATTLECOCK
I'd say I'm the only person double qualified to say this game is a pile of dog poo poo.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

game is good actually
https://v.redd.it/92ll26fm8jz71/DASH_1080.mp4

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Game is garbage. It has the bones of a good game but all the connective tissue and skin is dog poo poo

We'll see about the day 1 patch but as it stands it's the weakest release in the franchise at least gameplay wise.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

hello internet posted:

Im not sure about console but if you hit tab on PC you can see all your stats. There may be a binding for it for controller

Not really a scoreboard in the standard FPS sense more of a stats highlight. Can I see the player that is 104 and 1 that's hacking with the LMG on the other team and report them?

KrunkMcGrunk
Jul 2, 2007

Sometimes I sit and think, and sometimes I just sit.

You know what, I'm glad the hovercraft is finally getting it's day in the sun

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


What were they thinking with the breakthrough capture point at the end of kaleidoscope at the top of a skyscraper? As far as I can tell it’s pretty much impossible for the attackers to win since people just camp the elevators. It’s so poorly thought out.

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

KrunkMcGrunk posted:

You know what, I'm glad the hovercraft is finally getting it's day in the sun

The sun is not in the lobby of a skyscraper. :colbert:

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

in theory you can take over the neighboring skyscrapers with spawn beacons and everyone starts wingsuiting over with sniper support

in practice uhhhhhh

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

veni veni veni posted:

What were they thinking with the breakthrough capture point at the end of kaleidoscope at the top of a skyscraper? As far as I can tell it’s pretty much impossible for the attackers to win since people just camp the elevators. It’s so poorly thought out.

I think you're supposed to use helicopters. I hope you have helicopters.

Raskolnikov2089
Nov 3, 2006

Schizzy to the matic
Im enjoying it. It's already better on release than BF4 was, and I loved 4.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

the wingsuit is really loving stupid and great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbhMoTx3pK0

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

if you go on top of a cargo crate that is barely out of vault height and wingsuit off it you can glide for about ~140 m on completely flat ground

you just hold forward as you wingsuit to get speed and then tilt back so you are slightly above a level angle with the ground

you can get height by getting speed then holding back harder

you can cut the wingsuit and redeploy it if you have enough height for shenanigans

Grizzled Patriarch
Mar 27, 2014

These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.



Playing on PS4 so that might be a big factor but I do think this game looks substantially worse than BF1 and maybe even V. It's not ugly, but it definitely feels like there's not much texture to things and a lot of the environments feel pretty lifeless. BF1's desert maps feel like you're going through an actual desert full of crumbling Ottoman ruins and hastily abandoned camps, whereas, say, the Hourglass map here feels pretty incongruous for something that is supposed to be the ruins of a megacity post-climate apocalypse. Doesn't help that Spec Ops: The Line did basically the same exact setting but did a way better job of establishing atmosphere and making it feel like people actually lived there at some point.

There's also some weird texture pop-ins sometimes - I had a match today where my gun's textures didn't fully load in for like 2 solid minutes.

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

veni veni veni posted:

What were they thinking with the breakthrough capture point at the end of kaleidoscope at the top of a skyscraper? As far as I can tell it’s pretty much impossible for the attackers to win since people just camp the elevators. It’s so poorly thought out.

I call this dev syndrome. When the devs are making a game like this they are not playing the same game. When they play they have an entire team playing the "correct" way and all coordinating to boot. No 10 wookies hanging back sniping, teammates always revive and throw ammo etc.

Imagine that scenario but your whole team is coordinating so you can all assault via heli, VTOL, wings it, and elevators at the same time. That sounds loving rad as hell and probably what happens when they play among themselves.

Playing with pubbies is a fundamentally different experience. You can tell a lot of design decisions were made because of this dynamic when you start looking.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

i think a lot of the problems can be solved with functioning voip

game is 10x funner w/ someone on voip

things as simple as making sure someone has beacon or coordinating 2 people to spawn with AA missiles to ruin choppers makes a huge difference

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

comedyblissoption posted:

i think a lot of the problems can be solved with functioning voip

game is 10x funner w/ someone on voip

things as simple as making sure someone has beacon or coordinating 2 people to spawn with AA missiles to ruin choppers makes a huge difference

Yeah that's my point. Dice designs for the game as it should be played not as it is. It's why battlefield is 100x better/more fun with coordination.

thetan_guy42
Oct 15, 2016

murdera

Lipstick Apathy
some thoughts

-hovercraft is increasingly hilarious, emerging as the meme vehicle.

-drone c5 is too much fun, hopefully doesnt get nerfed

-ROBOT DOG should be deployed often as possible, its the only natural enemy of the drone and will avenge your death

- air vehicles are hard, then again im moving from KBM pilot of several years on BF4 PC to console (poor)

-FFs give us scoreboard and COMMS, or at least some silly radio commands to spam. When crazy poo poo happens its fun to share the moment and none of my friends play this game.

-Call in feature is great. everybody bitching about no jeep should use it. funny and sometimes OP to call a tank in to certain elevated positions.

-lvl 25 and havent scratched the specialist surface im still stuck on drones

-game can be bad but when its good its good. can only get better from here as a new battlefield game.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

Grizzled Patriarch posted:

Playing on PS4 so that might be a big factor but I do think this game looks substantially worse than BF1 and maybe even V. It's not ugly, but it definitely feels like there's not much texture to things and a lot of the environments feel pretty lifeless.

Just as BFV was technically graphically superior to BF1 yet "looked" worse, the same is true of 2042

wolffenstein
Aug 2, 2002
 
Pork Pro
hey pc nerds if you wanna use rtss with 2042, create a profile for it and set application detection level to high. no need for stealth mode or custom d3d support. low or medium crashes the game for whatever reason.

days old edit: or update to rtss 7.3.2.

wolffenstein fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Nov 18, 2021

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Some funny business going on with hit detection. A couple times I was right in front of someone and just shot them in the chest point blank with my shotgun, with zero result. Real bummer when that happens, got all excited thinking I was going to own some guys that I snuck up on, only for my shots to do nothing.

thetan_guy42 posted:

-ROBOT DOG should be deployed often as possible, its the only natural enemy of the drone and will avenge your death

It's the only thing that ever manages to hit my drone. Other people try and for some reason can never succeed.

Ynglaur posted:

I'm kind of getting sick of the hovercraft. They're only fun for the driver. If you're a gunner 95% of drivers just blitz everywhere at max speed. Your screen is just a blur of passing terrain.

It is immense fun if you have the grenade launcher and can communicate with the driver via voice chat. I imagine not being able to communicate makes it much worse, since you can't coordinate.

The default gun is really bad if the hover craft is moving around. There's also a rocket launcher that I guess is meant for anti-air, but grenade launcher still seems much better.

Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Nov 16, 2021

Longpig Bard
Dec 29, 2004



I love the game now, I'm level 27 and got enough gear unlocked to play however I liked to play BF4. I wish I could record some clips but DX12 games always shut off Shadowplay on my system.

thetan_guy42 posted:

-ROBOT DOG should be deployed often as possible, its the only natural enemy of the drone and will avenge your death

:hmmyes: Love that dog, great for when you're lone wolfing some far off base, especially with Mackay's grapple hook to sneak around. Turns a 1 vs 3 into a 2 vs 3, gives you cover so you can zip around like fuckin Batman.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

there has to be some type of hitreg bug where when you're adsing none of your shots will register ever on a particular target until you re-ads

this has nothing to do w/ weapon bloom

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


comedyblissoption posted:

there has to be some type of hitreg bug where when you're adsing none of your shots will register ever on a particular target until you re-ads

this has nothing to do w/ weapon bloom

I feel like "other guy no-sells an entire magazine in his back before turning around and killing you with three bullets" has been a thing in Battlefield since as far back as BC2 at least.

Murvin
Jan 7, 2008
Jet-setter and raconteur


Holy poo poo prox sensors are so good and rack up points like crazy and I suggest everyone roll with those if you care about that.

Shrimp or Shrimps
Feb 14, 2012


How do ram speeds factor in with a CPU-bottlenecked game? Like, is faster ram going to help alleviate that bottleneck?


Propelled by farts.

Shrimp or Shrimps fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Nov 16, 2021

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


comedyblissoption posted:

there has to be some type of hitreg bug where when you're adsing none of your shots will register ever on a particular target until you re-ads

this has nothing to do w/ weapon bloom

There it's definitely something weird that will randomly make someone invincible to bullets.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

RCarr posted:

Quite amazing that Halo managed to do a surprise early release with basically no bugs or problems whatsoever.

Poor battlefield…

Microsoft delayed halo by almost a year. I do wish more studios were willing to delay their games for polish. This game did get an extra month but clearly needed 6.

Skyarb
Sep 20, 2018

MMMPH MMMPPHH MPPPH GLUCK GLUCK OH SORRY I DIDNT SEE YOU THERE I WAS JUST CHOKING DOWN THIS BATTLEFIELD COCK DID YOU KNOW BATTLEFIELD IS THE BEST VIDEO GAME EVER NOW IF YOULL EXCUSE ME ILL GO BACK TO THIS BATTLECOCK
Its literally incredible that if sundance gets like 5 feet of height she can fly a mile. Its really fun and cool but also makes no loving sense

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


BF is never that great alone, but I have been playing with pubs a decent amount just cause it's new and 2042 is like, next level awful alone to the point where I just feel like I loving hate the game. But the second I get someone I'm chatting with I'm like "nah this is pretty fun" and with a full squad it's tits.

Maybe that feels dumb to say because it's like "duh" but I feel like 2042 is this special breed of awful without anyone to fall back on. I could always screw around in BF and have some degree of fun even if I was just messing around by myself, but outside of grabbing a tank and potshotting poo poo, or trying to run people over with a hovercraft, pubbie play is sheer misery. Especially as infantry. I have never wanted to always be in a vehicle so much. Not only is there someone watching every single angle imaginable at all times, but every bit of cover is made of paper and 70% of every map is just big open stretches. it's just this constant stream of dying out of nowhere and hoping to take someone with you. You can't even get around quickly unless you can snag a vehicle. where the gently caress are the ATVs and other garbage vehicles to just roll around in? They were prominently featured in the marketing and they aren't even in the game wtf.

I think I have played enough now that I am just not going to bother unless someone else wants to play. It seems 100% essential to having fun in 2042

Hopper
Dec 28, 2004

BOOING! BOOING!
Grimey Drawer
My guess is once XP is re-enabled in portal, people will just flock to the 64 player maps in there. Right now all the big maps seem to have 2-4 contested points and the rest almost never change hands.

And they really need to make it so you can play in a group with more people than just you squad. That is the biggest bullshit ever. We can't even have 10 goons on discord play on the same server. Why play BF at all if that's not possible?

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


veni veni veni posted:

BF is never that great alone, but I have been playing with pubs a decent amount just cause it's new and 2042 is like, next level awful alone to the point where I just feel like I loving hate the game. But the second I get someone I'm chatting with I'm like "nah this is pretty fun" and with a full squad it's tits.

Literally any team based game no matter how garbage is fun with a group if friends.

Games also need to either be entirely team focused like Hell Let Loose and squad or have the game be fun solo so the squads have people to shoot.

2042 isn't either of those things

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Sedisp posted:

There it's definitely something weird that will randomly make someone invincible to bullets.

Could be the friend/foe identification loving up.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


SplitSoul posted:

Could be the friend/foe identification loving up.

Thought so too but eventually I got curious and c5ed them

Chronojam
Feb 20, 2006

This is me on vacation in Amsterdam :)
Never be afraid of being yourself!


Ynglaur posted:

I think you're supposed to use helicopters. I hope you have helicopters.

Defenders can deploy a wildcat on top of the skyscrapers and kill an infinite number of aircraft

Speaking of my bff the wildcat, one lock-on rocket and one main cannon shot (whichever order you see fit) kills a hovercraft. Full hovercraft become pinatas.

Thirsty Dog
May 31, 2007

Hopper posted:

My guess is once XP is re-enabled in portal, people will just flock to the 64 player maps in there. Right now all the big maps seem to have 2-4 contested points and the rest almost never change hands.

And they really need to make it so you can play in a group with more people than just you squad. That is the biggest bullshit ever. We can't even have 10 goons on discord play on the same server. Why play BF at all if that's not possible?

Basically the two biggest priorities to ensure my me and my friends don't bail on this at the earliest opportunity (two have already refunded)

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Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Does the Apache's first rocket type lock on to ground vehicles? Thought it was blind fire, but then it will say it's locked on l. Haven't had a chance to see if future rockets track targets I've locked on to.

Sedisp posted:

There it's definitely something weird that will randomly make someone invincible to bullets.

Encountered an amusing example of this today where my friend and I rolled into a building in the hovercraft and killed everyone except for one guy in the corner who was invincible. Repeatedly shot grenades into his face with zero effect. A player on foot was able to kill him, at least.

Chronojam posted:

Defenders can deploy a wildcat on top of the skyscrapers and kill an infinite number of aircraft

Speaking of my bff the wildcat, one lock-on rocket and one main cannon shot (whichever order you see fit) kills a hovercraft. Full hovercraft become pinatas.

Jeeps are basically piñatas like this for grenade-equipped hovercraft. They seem to explode with a short burst of 3-4 (or kill the occupants).

Oddly, other hovercraft seem to take very little damage from the grenade launcher. I've shot like 20 into one without killing it (and it wasn't a bug, since it did start smoking). RPGs, on the other hand, completely wreck hovercraft. Maybe something about how the game deals with armor and armor penetration.

Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 11:30 on Nov 16, 2021

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