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Its perfectly possible to kill very good IPs. EA is an example of a company that's extremely good at it, because they just don't care about long term investments.FAUXTON posted:Yeah they're killing the studio brand so they can have the IPs at a discount Mergers are pretty complicated. Strictly speaking Activision Blizzard owns the IPs already, but part of the negotiation could include clauses that require Blizzard IP to be managed by Blizzard. Its hard to know for sure.
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Activision's killed plenty of studios and brands, too. Never forget they managed to start the plastic instruments thing and then milk it to death before the whole genre petered out. And how many great studios are now consigned to the Call of Duty map pack mines? EA's attempt in like, I donno, 2010 to invest in new properties and creative IPs was seen as something not just to break away from their stagnation, but something that Activision wasn't doing and was instead just strangling their studios.
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Grondoth posted:Never forget they managed to start the plastic instruments thing and then milk it to death before the whole genre petered out. ...the what?  
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like guitar hero
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Dick Burglar posted:...the what? Guitar Hero etc.
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Oh poo poo, I totally forgot Guitar Hero was a thing that happened. welp
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Activision was also at the top of toys-to-life as well.
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I'm not sure either of those were really going to be sustainable long-term, so I can't really blame them for milking them as hard as possible until the fads faded.
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Oh for sure, that was obvious. I'm half paying attention and forgot what thread I was skimming.
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Konami actually started the plastic instruments genre with Beatmania and Drummania and Guitar Freaks, Activision definitely intended to milk it to death once they bought Red Octane, but EA jumping on board with Harmonix and Rock Band defnitely accelerated the death-via-milking to "under a decade" https://www.destructoid.com/former-redoctane-ceo-activision-abused-guitar-hero/ https://www.vice.com/en/article/wx8bey/the-oral-history-of-guitar-hero mutata posted:Activision was also at the top of toys-to-life as well. Perhaps predatory business practices go along with predatory leadership and protecting sex predators. Assepoester fucked around with this message at 04:18 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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The United States posted:Konami actually started the plastic instruments genre with Beatmania and Drummania and Guitar Freaks, Activision definitely intended to milk it to death once they bought Red Octane, but EA jumping on board with Harmonix and Rock Band defnitely accelerated the death-via-milking to "under a decade" looking forward to the nostalgic return of guitar hero guitars
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anime was right posted:looking forward to the nostalgic return of guitar hero guitars https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/11/18220659/guitar-hero-live-voluntary-refund-program-activision-song-library-shutdown 
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The United States posted:They tried. It failed. But they'll try again in another 5-10 years I'm sure. yeah there wasnt enough time imo. it wasnt collectively associated with full-on good times nostalgia. i imagine we'll get something that works with phones or something.
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Don't know if this has been posted in here yet: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/a...nty-11637252067 Driving an employee to suicide and threatening to murder someone? lol whatever. Mishandling the money of other rich people? 
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 Ain't life grand?
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Abner Assington posted:It's because of… I've been saying for years that the mega-wealthy literally just see their bank account number as a high score, and I've yet to see anything but mounds more evidence for it.
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The United States posted:They tried. It failed. But they'll try again in another 5-10 years I'm sure. Honestly I don't know if peripherals are ever going to be successful again. They just don't jive with the way people play games these days. The only exception I can think of right now is Ring Fit, which sold well but hadn't exactly dry set the world on fire. Maybe in 10 years they'll come out with a definitive plastic instrument experience that the most obsessive nostalgia hounds will love but it won't be any time soon. That said I do miss Rock Band drumming. It was a cool, relatively dirt cheap way of approximating the experience of drumming without having to worry about noise or actually learning how to use drums which was ideal for me. stev fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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The United States posted:Konami actually started the plastic instruments genre with Beatmania and Drummania and Guitar Freaks, Activision definitely intended to milk it to death once they bought Red Octane, but EA jumping on board with Harmonix and Rock Band defnitely accelerated the death-via-milking to "under a decade" Header from the article was before its time. 
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stev posted:Honestly I don't know if peripherals are ever going to be successful again. They just don't jive with the way people play games these days. The only exception I can think of right now is Ring Fit, which sold well but hadn't exactly dry set the world on fire. A big problem is probably a mix of horrible mishandling of the various franchises combined with the console generation cycle meaning that they flood the market with redundant plastic crap that you keep having to rebuy, and an utter crapshoot (but leaning to unlikely) of whether there'll be any meaningful support. On top of the plastic crap being overpriced enough that a lot of people are going to just stop bothering to keep up with it on top of paying for the software. Like, there's a reason basically the last man standing for the toys-to-life/peripheral stuff is Amiibo, and those are specifically supported by multiple games across at least two console generations so far (complete with old save bonuses in the case of Smash Bros ones) and even without that, are good quality figurines at reasonable prices of characters that it's otherwise often hard to get decent merchandise for. (Outside of Nintendo's really big names of course, but even then) Of course, elaborate game peripherals have been a thing literally every generation. Nintendo in particular having them from the very start (with using peripherals to initially sell the NES when game consoles were a hard sell in the American market, infamously) and the perennial steering wheels, pedals and shifter sticks for racing games I still see in stores, lightguns similarly showing up eventually everywhere they can... more that game controllers nowadays have as many gimmicks as can be crammed into them, between touchpads, motion controls, rumble and so on. There's a pretty steady cycle of overreach and scaling back.
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webmeister posted:Rock Band got me laid on multiple occasions so it's okay by me gently caress yes bro. thanky ou for this info int he thread about the insane sexual harrassment company 🙏
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Please keep this thread focused on the main topic. This isn't the right thread to start posting about your Rock Band pickup lines or whatever. Occasional topical jokes are fine, but let's try to avoid derails before they start.
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Harrow posted:Occasional topical jokes are fine hm how about no - dr evil.
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close this thread if it s just going to be poeple trying out their hilarious stand up routines about abusive industry practices. in summationEndorph posted:speaking bluntly i dont think anywhere on sa is going to be a good place to discuss it. people are within their rights to not really wanna hear about it in a chill chat thread or a chill steam chat thread, and a thread devoted to is just going to descend into victory laps and a weird 'thread culture' which is the last thing a thread like that needs.
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Bragging about having sex at some point in a sexual harassment thread is so tone deaf it’s amazing
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Stux posted:close this thread if it s just going to be poeple trying out their hilarious stand up routines about abusive industry practices. in summation This thread has been a solid source of news and discussion for all but one page but thanks for charging in here after one bad post to tell us how goons are incapable of having adult conversations.
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Stux posted:hm how about no - dr evil. "Occasional" is the key word. What we need to avoid are derails, not someone occasionally making a crack at Blizzard doing a dumb thing. If this thread repeatedly devolves into derails that are nothing but jokes or inappropriate personal stories then yes, it should be closed. It's not there yet.
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I dig this thread as a 'Blizzard keeps loving it up' rss.
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Harrow posted:"Occasional" is the key word. What we need to avoid are derails, not someone occasionally making a crack at Blizzard doing a dumb thing. If this thread repeatedly devolves into derails that are nothing but jokes or inappropriate personal stories then yes, it should be closed. It's not there yet. epic thrhead title ftw 
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Heran Bago posted:I dig this thread as a 'Blizzard keeps loving it up' rss. There's a thread for that. My understanding is that this was specifically created to be a serious news thread counterpart.
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Stux posted:epic thrhead title ftw I didn't change it, but even then, a jokey thread title is not a derail. Even the #MeToo thread has an irreverent thread title. If you'd like to continue arguing about this thread, do so in the feedback thread, because this is as much of an annoying derail as the things you're complaining about.
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Cythereal posted:There's a thread for that. My understanding is that this was specifically created to be a serious news thread counterpart. yup and it would be great if it could be that.
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not to split hairs but i wouldnt really call the metoo thread title irreverent more than mad about awful bullshit
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I've updated the thread title and request from other mods and IKs to keep the title focused on the topic and not a joke. If there are big headlines that just broke, that can make a good thread title update. I'm not interested in cracking down on literally any and all jokes in this thread. However, this thread does need to avoid jokey derails, off-topic derails, weird posts about your sex life, and anything else along those lines. You can crack the occasional joke but if you're just here to post a picture of Bobby Kotick's dumb-looking face, maybe take it to Blizzlols. Harrow fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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chglcu posted:It's probably also partly for show to their own employees who may be considering going somewhere else. Games aren't immune to the whole 'Great Resignation' thing.
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I'm glad that single joke post crisis got sorted. Phew, what a disaster. Good thing people swept in to make a big deal out of it or we might've just completely ignored it or something! (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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It's pretty pathetic that Stux came barreling in here to denounce people making GBS threads up the thread by...repeatedly making GBS threads up the thread and posting absolutely nothing of value. What I'm saying is: shut the gently caress up, Stux. More than 1,000 Activision Blizzard workers sign petition to drop CEO Bobby Kotick I worry about these peoples' jobs. It's almost certain they won't be able to immediately fire all of them, but they've no doubt painted a giant target on all of their backs (with an easily-searchable list, no less) to be ejected at the first opportunity. Then again, I imagine basically everyone at AB below the C-levels is already looking for jobs elsewhere, and I hope they find them soon. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dick Burglar posted:It's pretty pathetic that Stux came barreling in here to denounce people making GBS threads up the thread by...repeatedly making GBS threads up the thread and posting absolutely nothing of value. What I'm saying is: shut the gently caress up, Stux. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNprYJNAzBs (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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