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cinci zoo sniper posted:a hiring manager did comment on my (python stemlord) cv that im unlikely ready to solve problems in a strongly typed language, because i lack traditional cs background hilarious self own because python has been a strongly typed language for multiple decades
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Nov 18, 2021 18:12
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if you think recruiters know the difference betw the strong vs weak typing axis and the dynamic vs static typing axis you have like 5 orders of magnitude too much faith in recruiters if you wouldn't trust a fast food cashier to do it, don't trust a recruiter to do it
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Nov 18, 2021 18:24
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ah poo poo hiring manager well you get worthless dipshits there too. i think their actual fear is that you're a drat weenie tho
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Nov 18, 2021 18:25
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bob dobbs is dead posted:if you think recruiters know the difference betw the strong vs weak typing axis and the dynamic vs static typing axis you have like 5 orders of magnitude too much faith in recruiters this lead engineer of the company, in ml department
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Nov 18, 2021 18:26
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absolutely. i would expect that a hiring manager, casting aspersions over the sum another human person's education and work experience, would at least know the right word to use though. i dont think thats unreasonable
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Nov 18, 2021 18:26
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drat, that's some dipshit hiring right there, "Im hiring ml peeps but i wont hire python peeps" like "im hiring embedded peeps but i wont hire c peeps" level dipshit
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Nov 18, 2021 18:28
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NihilCredo posted:use it as an excuse to move to let's encrypt and close the contract unfortunately it's on an internally hosted/managed elastic cluster so we're stuck with it. they've now reissued the certificate for the right domain but there's still something going wrong as Https is busted in 2 weeks the production certificate expires as well!
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Nov 18, 2021 18:29
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bob dobbs is dead posted:drat, that's some dipshit hiring right there, "Im hiring ml peeps but i wont hire python peeps" well how could they know if someone with 8 years of meaningful python experience is up the impossible task of writing some gprc in go to tie poo poo together with their infra
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Nov 18, 2021 18:33
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bob dobbs is dead posted:drat, that's some dipshit hiring right there, "Im hiring ml peeps but i wont hire python peeps" I mean my current job was like that, but then it's all C++ well not quite won't hire but strong C++ experience needed
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Nov 18, 2021 18:35
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cinci zoo sniper posted:a hiring manager did comment on my (python stemlord) cv that im unlikely ready to solve problems in a strongly typed language, because i lack traditional cs background just amazing it's pretty funny since with modern ides the types almost write themselves. If anything I think it's easier to go from duck typed to .... whatever you'd call c# being
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Nov 18, 2021 18:35
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i think its ok to be like "strong c++ experience required" since its basically also an "abandon all hope ye who enter here" sign. python's type system is of equivalent complexity, in the context of "will this hire be able to perform useful work", to any of the modern GC, VM languages imo
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Nov 18, 2021 18:38
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12 rats tied together posted:i think its ok to be like "strong c++ experience required" since its basically also an "abandon all hope ye who enter here" sign. oh deffo, but that's a shining beacon to stay away
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Nov 18, 2021 19:16
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bob dobbs is dead posted:drat, that's some dipshit hiring right there, "Im hiring ml peeps but i wont hire python peeps" so did they want standard ml or ocaml
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Nov 18, 2021 20:14
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the immortal science of marxism-leninism ofc
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Nov 18, 2021 20:22
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bob dobbs is dead posted:drat, that's some dipshit hiring right there, "Im hiring ml peeps but i wont hire python peeps" what is it with all the arrogant people that use functional programming languages
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Nov 18, 2021 20:23
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hobbesmaster posted:what is it with all the arrogant people that use functional programming languages We're just better programmers, OP. 
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Nov 18, 2021 20:47
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cinci zoo sniper posted:a hiring manager did comment on my (python stemlord) cv that im unlikely ready to solve problems in a strongly typed language, because i lack traditional cs background i cannot stress enough that these "cs is sacrosanct" people are doing us all a huge favor by being so open and up-front about how fucken dumb they are early on in the hiring process
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Nov 18, 2021 21:29
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Corla Plankun posted:i cannot stress enough that these "cs is sacrosanct" people are doing us all a huge favor by being so open and up-front about how fucken dumb they are early on in the hiring process  but also it's a huge barrier for loads of talented people in an industry desperate for more warm bodies. Denmark is really bad at this and the number of times I've been asked "why didn't you study CS you big dum dum". Even worse it permeates every facet of Danish white collar poo poo. Wanna do machine learning for lovely pharmacorp? Gotta be a doctor in stats or at least masters of pharmaceuticals and maths. Wanna work in food adjacent statistical field? Gotta be master of food science or better yet doctor in god drat multivariate statistics. Want to computer janitor or god forbid do it security? You better have all the microsoft certificates and an ISO27001 permission slip from that Swiss guy in the corner. thinking a bit on it making software might actually be the white collar work in Denmark with the most openness. I mean, I got my dumb rear end in after two years of computer-related fields. Maybe it's actually interviewing and job searching that's a pos
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Nov 18, 2021 22:03
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYvhC_RdIwQ
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Nov 19, 2021 02:27
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Now this is value
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Nov 19, 2021 05:12
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champagne posting posted:blah blah your problem is "denmark"
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Nov 19, 2021 05:38
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bob dobbs is dead posted:your problem is "denmark" this seems to be the root of all my issues!
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Nov 19, 2021 10:07
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in before "something is rotten"
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Nov 19, 2021 16:01
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12 rats tied together posted:rule of thumb you should do fib backoff instead of exponential, but "exponential backoff" remains the term to use for any type of retry timer that increases after consistent "please retry that" responses fib backoff is when you have to clarify parts of your resume
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Nov 19, 2021 16:18
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the only thing I can find talking about Fibonacci backoff is a paper that doesn't even compare it with plain old exponential, only "BEB" which delays by a random number between zero and 2^n-1 is it actually better than an exponential backoff of 1.6^n?
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Nov 19, 2021 17:04
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you should use the backoff that doesn't get you rate limited/ip banned
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Nov 19, 2021 17:35
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hobbesmaster posted:you should use the backoff that doesn't get you rate limited/ip banned yeah i did some scraping on a site & started out using exp backoff but after some false starts, i figured out that their rate limiter was like if you use more than x mb/s, we 429 you for an hour. if you make another request within that hour, you get another hour. twice & you get 24. i didnt dare go further cause the account was in my name. so i pretty quickly just figured out to rate limit my requests in the client and then waiting an hour if i got the rare 429
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Nov 19, 2021 17:54
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fritz posted:fib backoff is when you have to clarify parts of your resume
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Nov 19, 2021 17:57
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Oh my god why do so many people who make nuget packages never actually specify what namespaces stuff is in or show complete working examples including the namespaces? E.g. the package HtmlSanitizer is randomly in the namespace Ganss.XSS and this is not documented anywhere so the only way to determine it is to actually look at the source code on github. Maybe if the namespace isn't the name of the package you should actually include the using statement in your example?
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Nov 19, 2021 18:05
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mystes posted:Maybe if the namespace isn't the name of the package you should actually include the using statement in your example? i think i've actually seen this documentation issue in every language i've used
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Nov 19, 2021 18:10
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opinion of github copilot significantly increased after it reminded me to commit a transaction i'd totally forgotten i had opened
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Nov 19, 2021 18:19
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NihilCredo posted:opinion of github copilot significantly increased after it reminded me to commit a transaction i'd totally forgotten i had opened what is a transaction in this context? does copilot watch your database?
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Nov 19, 2021 18:29
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mystes posted:Oh my god why do so many people who make nuget packages never actually specify what namespaces stuff is in or show complete working examples including the namespaces? nuget sucks
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Nov 19, 2021 18:40
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Carthag Tuek posted:what is a transaction in this context? does copilot watch your database? i would guess in this case its just static analysis of the code which is great but also not ~*AI*~
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Nov 19, 2021 18:42
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fritz posted:fib backoff is when you have to clarify parts of your resume
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Nov 19, 2021 18:49
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Shaggar posted:i would guess in this case its just static analysis of the code which is great but also not ~*AI*~ oh right yeah, that can easily be done with regular static analysis in most languages
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Nov 19, 2021 18:58
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Shaggar posted:i would guess in this case its just static analysis of the code which is great but also not ~*AI*~ yep still, i've had a half-dozen times in the past where I went 'why can't I find the widget I just saved? *checks logs* "transaction aborted"... gently caress i forgot tx.CommitAsync()' i've considered writing a type-safe wrapper to ensure that every transaction is either committed or rolled back on all code-paths, but it would greatly complicate the code since txs get passed around like an unsavory metaphor it's not a big deal because 'new code doesn't actually write to the db' gets caught the very first time you run it, but it's still annoying and copilot saved me maybe 10 minutes or so
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Nov 19, 2021 18:59
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no commitments, no problems
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NihilCredo posted:yep C# code:
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altho i guess that doesnt help if u forget to Complete() lol. still, it would prevent u from blocking with ur transaction
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