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As atmospheric pressure drops, so does the boiling point of a liquid. This is why it takes longer to make hard boiled eggs if you're way up in the mountains: the thinner air means the boiling water isn't quite as hot as it would be down at the elevations most people live, so it needs more time to do its thing to the eggs. Take that to an extreme, like a near vacuum, and water will boil at body temperature or even room temperature. So if you should ever find yourself thrown out an airlock into the void, the last thing you're likely to feel is your saliva starting to boil -- it's not hot, in fact it's probably getting cold fast, but it won't actually freeze until after you're dead. (In space you kind of freeze and boil at the same time.) The water in your eyes, and then your blood, will start to do the same thing, but probably not until you've lost consciousness. It doesn't sound like a pleasant way to go, but at least it's reasonably quick.
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You do lose consciousness/die quicker in a vacuum than from suffocation. In the latter case you still have oxygen already in your blood and lungs that takes a little bit of time to use up, but in a vacuum the oxygen will all leave your bloodstream
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# ? Nov 22, 2021 12:45 |
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I also have been making my way through season 2, it's getting a bit weird.
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# ? Nov 22, 2021 14:45 |
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s02e04 - A Distant Star
s02e05 - The Long Dark
discoukulele fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Nov 22, 2021 |
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discoukulele posted:s02e03 - Geometry of Shadows I just want to say I love this comparison. It's so good, and never occurred to me before.
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# ? Nov 22, 2021 16:18 |
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discoukulele posted:s02e05 - The Long Dark That wasn't a Shadow, it was one of their servants (they said this in the episode, you may have missed it)
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MrL_JaKiri posted:That wasn't a Shadow, it was one of their servants (they said this in the episode, you may have missed it) Oh, thanks! Yeah, I missed that.
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s02e06 - A Spider in the Web
s02e07 - A Race Through Dark Places
s02e08 - Soul Mates
s02e09 - The Coming of Shadows Okay, so, this episode was a big one, and the only note I actually took while watching it was "It's our first time to see Centauri Prime!" because things took off pretty quickly after that. And there's really not a whole lot to say about it - it was an absolutely masterful episode and a major escalation. poo poo's gettin real. The way the plot is starting to shape up feels a bit like GoT in that war is starting to break out among all of these factions when they should be uniting against the Real, Mysterious Enemy that's starting to gather its forces in the rim. I'm also really digging Londo's Shakespearean arc that he's established for himself; there's no going back now. I'm curious about how much longer he could possibly remain at B5 discoukulele fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Nov 23, 2021 |
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The Doctor’s name is Franklin.
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# ? Nov 23, 2021 21:49 |
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discoukulele posted:s02e06 - A Spider in the Web Bad news on this one - they canned that particular subplot due to there being an RPG of the same name, but the themes are revisited. discoukulele posted:s02e08 - Soul Mates Read it backwards
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discoukulele posted:s02e06 - A Spider in the Web That's something where I'm interested in how things would've gone with Sinclair. It's mentioned in passing, but Sinclair was born on Mars. Doesn't feel a huge amount of loyalty to it, compared to, like, Earth Alliance generally. But it would've been an interesting additional thread, as we learn more about Mars, to have someone from there in the main cast of characters.
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# ? Nov 23, 2021 22:10 |
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Chevy Slyme posted:The Doctor’s name is Franklin. lmao woops, thanks! MrL_JaKiri posted:Read it backwards how on earth did i miss that lol
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Vavrek posted:I'd heard all those details about spacing before, from Farscape and Babylon 5, and people saying "yeah that's about right". The only other details I remember are: your eyes might get hosed up, as lowering pressure drops the boiling point of water, and you shouldn't try to hold your breath because the 1 Atm. of pressure inside your lungs can rupture some tissues. Yeah, that bit about not trying to hold your breath is the same as they teach in scuba classes, where a sudden ascent of a few meters can be enough to gently caress up your lungs if you try that. Pretty sure that the main thing that will determine whether or not a spaced person can be rescued and revived is whether or not the brain has been without oxygen for longer than however many minutes it takes for irreversible brain damage to set in. And that stuff like desiccation of bodily liquids will take significantly longer than this, so the degree of such injuries sustained will mostly be of interest to accident/murder investigators, not so much to medical personnel. (Except maybe to figure out if organs can be usefully harvested for transplant, etc.)
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My favorite little detail about Soul Mates: Mollari describes his wives as pestilence, famine and death, three of the for horsemen of the apocalypse. Naturally that means Londo is the the fourth horseman, War
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McCloud posted:My favorite little detail about Soul Mates: oh wow, that's fun, I didn't catch that
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s02e10 - Gropos
s02e11 - All Alone in the Night
discoukulele fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Nov 26, 2021 |
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discoukulele posted:
So, there are actually a few other species with a similar appearance over the series, most notably the Vree, (who you’ve seen in the cast of alien extras in council chamber scenes) who literally have flying saucer ships, and later in the series in a throwaway gag are shown as defendants in a lawsuit from a human who claims they abducted his ancestors. - spoiler has absolutely zero plot relevance. It’s literally a throwaway joke. Still, click at your own risk.
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discoukulele posted:s02e10 - Gropos discoukulele posted:s02e11 - All Alone in the Night
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Chevy Slyme posted:So, there are actually a few other species with a similar appearance over the series, most notably the Vree, (who you’ve seen in the cast of alien extras in council chamber scenes) who literally have flying saucer ships, and later in the series in a throwaway gag are shown as defendants in a lawsuit from a human who claims they abducted his ancestors. - spoiler has absolutely zero plot relevance. It’s literally a throwaway joke. Still, click at your own risk. That spoiler is actually in S1, so it's not a risk for discouke. Good shout on warning others, though.
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# ? Nov 26, 2021 11:29 |
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Jedit posted:That spoiler is actually in S1, so it's not a risk for discouke. Good shout on warning others, though. Could’ve sworn they showed up with Theo.
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Chevy Slyme posted:Could’ve sworn they showed up with Theo. No, it's Grail in S1.
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But yeah, anyway, there are a few minor variations of greys and other stereotypical aliens like that showing up throughout the series, which point to: 1) a certain cleverness in the show basically wink-nodding UFO sightings etc. as real and establishing all of those varied sketches as being of different species. 2) the cheapskate production ethos, which let them reuse a bunch of costume parts that have been scattered around the studio lot etc.
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Chevy Slyme posted:Could’ve sworn they showed up with Theo. The Ombudsmen generally don't appear much after S1, and only when they interact with main characters
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s02e12 – Acts of Sacrifice
s02e13 – Hunter, Prey
discoukulele fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Nov 27, 2021 |
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discoukulele posted:s02e12 – Acts of Sacrifice I kinda liked how Ivanova found a way to embarrass the representative and making fun of his bullshit sexist traditions without causing a diplomatic incident
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discoukulele posted:Do any space opera series get into detail about how they handle mixing new species together without massive outbreaks of new diseases? There's been a few touching on it, but nothing really in-depth. That time that Corran Horn hosed an otter, they both had severe full-body allergic reactions the morning after because it turned out they were both allergic to eachother. There was also a whole thing in Mass Effect where different species can have different chirality of amino acids so they can't process eachothers' foods, and one overheard conversation even features a Turian really creeping on a Quarian because he thinks their shared amino acids makes them more compatible. Quarians were originally playing off of the idea of a species having their immune systems atrophy from being in sterile environments, but that got rewritten. And nothing about the Asari makes any sense. I guess technically, since most of the worst epidemics come from diseases that were comparatively minor in livestock making the jump to humans with long-term contact, a bunch of different sentient species intermingling would be likely to lead to something, but that's a principle not many people know about, and if you're writing a story about alien species becoming friends, that's the sort of barrier you don't want to deal with.
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 19:55 |
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B5 does talk about the idea of diseases crossing species a few times, but mostly it's handwavey background stuff and in context it's treated like a more-or-less solved problem.
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The Expanse book/season 4 deals with it in a more realistic way than an alien disease somehow affecting humans, IMO. There's also a book series I never read about a space hospital called Sector General that is about alien medicine, so I'd assume that's in there.
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Worrying about diseases from other species is how we got enterprises decontamination gel scenes. Ignoring it seems like the best option
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 20:11 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:Quarians were originally playing off of the idea of a species having their immune systems atrophy from being in sterile environments, but that got rewritten. Mild spoilers for Mass Effect 2, I guess: (maybe ME3, but I think this scene is in 2.) I was expecting when Shep went to the migrant fleet, there'd be an inversion: Shep &co fully suited up, but Quarians unsuited. Instead, it was "yeah it turns out living in space ships for three hundred years really fucks up the immune system" and a bunch of still-suited Quarians. SlothfulCobra posted:And nothing about the Asari makes any
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s02e14 – And Now For a Word
s02e15 - There All The Honor Lies
s02e16 – Knives
s02e17 – In the Shadow of Z'Ha'Dum
discoukulele fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Nov 28, 2021 |
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I think Knives may be my favorite Londo episode.Vavrek posted:Did that get rewritten? Sort of. They added in a bit where Quarian immune systems were always weird from having some kind of symbiosis with their planet. I think they wanted to double down on reasons for the Quarians to all be suited in ME2, since designing an unsuited Quarian would be a lot of work, and they had already given them the extravagance of two genders with separate body types. On the bright side...
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Yeah they kinda retconned that Rannoch didn't have insect life and relatively little disease compared to most places, so Quarian immune systems were always terrible. It just didn't matter when they were living on the homeworld.
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discoukulele posted:s02e15 - There All The Honor Lies Yeah, originally this one came before "And Now for a Word". Not a big deal except for what you noted. The original broadcast order also had "Knives" after "In the Shadow of Z'Ha'Dum" because the CGI for "Knives" ran over the deadline. This new order works much better IMO.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I think Knives may be my favorite Londo episode. SlothfulCobra posted:Sort of. They added in a bit where Quarian immune systems were always weird from having some kind of symbiosis with their planet. I think they wanted to double down on reasons for the Quarians to all be suited in ME2, since designing an unsuited Quarian would be a lot of work, and they had already given them the extravagance of two genders with separate body types. I still wish they'd done it and will add it to the list of ME2's sins.
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Vavrek posted:Knives is great. It's also, if I remember right (maybe not with the rearranged order?), the last episode written by someone other than JMS until the one S5 episode by Neil Gaiman. Correct - sort of. JMS wrote 57 consecutive episodes between 2X17 and 5X07, a record for US television at the time and making him the first man to ever write two entire seasons of one show. However, JMS only did the teleplay for 5X04, co-writing the story with Harlan Ellison.
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The HBO max version is all messed up.
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Jedit posted:Correct - sort of. JMS wrote 57 consecutive episodes between 2X17 and 5X07, a record for US television at the time and making him the first man to ever write two entire seasons of one show. However, JMS only did the teleplay for 5X04, co-writing the story with Harlan Ellison. Right. I thought of that one, briefly, but only realized Ellison had co-writer credit recently and so it's not stuck in my head yet as "JMS wrote all but 1.5 of the episodes in S5", so I neglected to mention it. Thanks for the correction. Lawman 0 posted:The HBO max version is all messed up. What's wrong with it?
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Vavrek posted:Right. I thought of that one, briefly, but only realized Ellison had co-writer credit recently and so it's not stuck in my head yet as "JMS wrote all but 1.5 of the episodes in S5", so I neglected to mention it. Thanks for the correction. The audio is completely desynced lol. It's basically unwatchable.
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discoukulele posted:s02e14 – And Now For a Word Hopefully you caught the bonus message they snuck in?
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