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Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

gently caress you Steam Support Jim!!!

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Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Just browsing through the stats of the ars and you probably should be prepared to get killed by the AC42 alot.

If dice meant that the bloom weirdness was a bug they've hammered out and nothing else changes Stat wise we're in for some hosed balance.


Edit: lol I'm pretty sure the ak24 and pp69 have swapped stats.

AK24 starts damage drop off at 10m which is in line with the other smgs and the pp9 starts at 30m which is similar to the m5a3.

Sedisp fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Nov 24, 2021

afkmacro
Mar 29, 2009



Skyarb posted:

Returns own and there is no reason not to take advantage of them as often as possible. There is no reason to be stuck with a bad game so bail as soon as possible. You can always buy it again later. Dice has gotten zero of my dollars despite me playing like 20 hours total and let me tell you that loving owns lmao

Kinda offtopic but costco's return policy is wild, you can return poo poo for up to two years I believe. Like buy an appliance, use it for 1 year 11 months and be like nah didn't like it.

Ontopic, shame about the upcoming 50 cal nerf.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

Fallom posted:

They also said they were nerfing the PP-29

Just vertical recoil, ie the easiest to control

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
They should put the transports remaining hp on the map.

3 spawns into a vtol in one round, all dead in less than 2 seconds

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


jisforjosh posted:

Just vertical recoil, ie the easiest to control

Yeah if all that they do is make the recoil worse and fix the bloom the pp is still a very good AR.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

the ak-24's vertical recoil is difficult to control at long distances

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

you can additionally set freelook left/right on aircraft to look left/right while holding down the freelook key to quickly see what would otherwise be a blind spot

I also changed my mind if you do mouse to yaw for aircraft, then A/D should be roll

BabelFish
Jul 20, 2013

Fallen Rib
I'm having way too much fun with this game, considering the number of things that I really detest about it.

Is there a goon discord for finding pickup groups? It's definitely a worse game solo.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie
I have this on PS5, but had to play the PS4 version to play with a friend who doesn't have a PS5 yet. Good god. The load times are bad and the PS4 version is way buggier too.

Cutedge
Mar 13, 2006

How can we lose so much more than we had before

Combat Pretzel posted:

Here's a dumb question, is there a too high graphical setting that's actually putting you on a disadvantage, because it means it spawns too much visual crap in your way, like fauna and grass and such, that others with lower settings wouldn't see?

It's a random thought that came up after being pissed for a few tank drivers tonight having an mistaken identity as a lumberjack and loving up my view as a gunner with tree shrubbery when running over every single one.

If they did this again after it was such a humungous issue back in BF Vietnam I'd have to laugh. Then again I doubt anyone who worked on BFV is still around there.

jisforjosh
Jun 6, 2006

"It's J is for...you know what? Fuck it, jizz it is"

BabelFish posted:

I'm having way too much fun with this game, considering the number of things that I really detest about it.

Is there a goon discord for finding pickup groups? It's definitely a worse game solo.

https://discord.gg/2yPyKptzYG

BeeSeeBee
Oct 25, 2007

comedyblissoption posted:

you can additionally set freelook left/right on aircraft to look left/right while holding down the freelook key to quickly see what would otherwise be a blind spot

I also changed my mind if you do mouse to yaw for aircraft, then A/D should be roll

I like having all the controls duplicated on the mouse and keyboard so I have

Yaw: A/D + Mouse left/right
Pitch: Space/Ctrl + Mouse up/down
Roll: Q/E + Mouse 3/4 (forward and back buttons) and rebound exit to F

I also bound my vehicle driver look left/right to Q/E so I don't have to pick my mouse up three or four times when I'm aiming the tank turret

I find there's a lot of instances where I'd prefer holding a key down for a couple seconds than frantically moving the mouse all over my mousepad.

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe
If the patches get things ironed out I might actually grab this. I was putting it off to focus on something else so I'll hopefully get into it in a slightly better state.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

I have a feeling they might nerf the SVK rifle since it seems to basically obsolete sniper rifles for anything but the most extreme ranges (I'd approximate 300-400 meters to be the range where I can semi-reliably kill things with the SVK with the projectile velocity attachment), but I'm enjoying it a lot in the meanwhile.

Also been using the healer lady specialist. Her heal gun is significantly more useful than I expected. The self-heal is particularly nice when dealing with enemy snipers, since you can usually heal yourself up between shots (plus some other situations, like helicopters shooting rockets near you).

I've also found that, while XP is nerfed, single player mode (against bots) is very good for unlocking gun attachments.

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2

Ytlaya posted:

I've also found that, while XP is nerfed, single player mode (against bots) is very good for unlocking gun attachments.
Awesome.

I've read the same is true for vehicle unlocks?



Chronojam posted:

Some of the buildings in Hourglass are hollow so you can just fly through them, pretty cool bug.
Now that's the Battlefield I know and love!

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

The United States posted:

Awesome.

I've read the same is true for vehicle unlocks?

I'm guessing so; I mostly just went on foot (since I was wanting to get gun attachments) but I spent a little time getting a bunch of easy kills in an Apache (the AI seems very bad at dealing with enemy helicopters) and unlocked something at the end for it.

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

The game grows on you (like a yeast)

Another annoying thing I’ve found is that in the end game awards screen the text chat covers the 4th person in the squad. Or whatever numbers you got in the game. Baffling

Tei
Feb 19, 2011

I only have like two hours a day to play this... How people play singleplayer with bots?, theres a option for that, I don' remember it.

Hopper
Dec 28, 2004

BOOING! BOOING!
Grimey Drawer

toggle posted:

The game grows on you (like a yeast)

Another annoying thing I’ve found is that in the end game awards screen the text chat covers the 4th person in the squad. Or whatever numbers you got in the game. Baffling

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dog nougat
Apr 8, 2009
Had a blast in hazard zone with a full goon squad.

https://twitter.com/Cocklepuss/status/1463406981214052354?t=0w5XG3LkK_L_gem2kJf1iQ&s=19

Finally unlocked the Bolte. It's so drat ridiculous. Like hovercraft are annoying, but relatively easy to counter comparatively. This is just a murder machine.

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

Hopper posted:

Press H for Hide

Incredible! Thank you!

keyframe
Sep 15, 2007

I have seen things
Vector with the extended mags is a beast.

Lube Enthusiast
May 26, 2016

“Gadgets no longer pause their cooldown when the player enters a vehicle”

Nice. This is one of those little things i wanted but wasn’t expecting them to address.

DrBox
Jul 3, 2004

Sombody call the doctor?
Played a couple hours of BF3 conquest finally. Pure nostalgia! I can't wait until they add a few more maps and I really hope after the weapon fixes this week that all ARs feel like the ACR-W. The current vehicle spawn system could use tweaks for sure, but play BF3 for a while to be reminded of how dumb the "spawn and try to race your teammates to the vehicles" is. I was ahead of a guy going for the chopper so he pulled out an RPG and blew it up before I could get it. The jet also hit a rock as I was taking off and instantly incinerated.
I had a funny bug where after staying on the same Portal server for a while alternating between the two BF3 maps the end of round XP counter kept going higher and higher. It was showing I was getting 90k xp per game (but not actually).

dog nougat posted:

Had a blast in hazard zone with a full goon squad.
Did your turret save you or knock that truck off course? That was hectic.

Tei posted:

I only have like two hours a day to play this... How people play singleplayer with bots?, theres a option for that, I don' remember it.

Click on choose mode which is the picture above play. Then on the top right select Solo / Coop. Then hit play.

DrBox fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Nov 24, 2021

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
The drone is goofy as hell. I've yet to be upset when someone tracks my body down and wipes me out while I'm dronin

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Ytlaya posted:

I have a feeling they might nerf the SVK rifle since it seems to basically obsolete sniper rifles for anything but the most extreme ranges (I'd approximate 300-400 meters to be the range where I can semi-reliably kill things with the SVK with the projectile velocity attachment), but I'm enjoying it a lot in the meanwhile.

Also been using the healer lady specialist. Her heal gun is significantly more useful than I expected. The self-heal is particularly nice when dealing with enemy snipers, since you can usually heal yourself up between shots (plus some other situations, like helicopters shooting rockets near you).

I've also found that, while XP is nerfed, single player mode (against bots) is very good for unlocking gun attachments.
the svk doesn't kill in one headshot which is a tremendous difference compared to the sniper rifles

but yes the svk might be overtuned still

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


DrBox posted:

Did your turret save you or knock that truck off course? That was hectic.

Think he shot the driver out. We were also lighting it up with M5s from all over.

My earlier post about 30mm jeeps in HZ panned out to be true. We brought a bunch of anti vehicle stuff and just melted them over and over. Made like 8000 hazard bux in an hour and extracted 3 times in a row. The last time we were almost completely loaded with data drives. Rn everyone in HZ is rolling around with jeep 30mm cocky as hell because it's an absolute murder machine, but the jeeps are still made out of tinfoil. We were just blowing them to hell over and over while they thought they could casually roll in and wipe us.

At the same time we also had two 30mm jeeps at the same time on that last run and it was just mean. It's so broken. No one runs anti vehicle stuff in HZ and you can easily use the most lethal anti infantry weapon in the game ,so it really is just shooting fish in a barrel until HZ people remember that you can actually blow up jeeps in BF2042.

veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 10:18 on Nov 24, 2021

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Ytlaya posted:

I'm guessing so; I mostly just went on foot (since I was wanting to get gun attachments) but I spent a little time getting a bunch of easy kills in an Apache (the AI seems very bad at dealing with enemy helicopters) and unlocked something at the end for it.

Yeah, solo mode is pretty good for unlocking the first few attack helicopter unlocks, since it's pretty difficult to actually get kills as the pilots with the default rockets. Note that you can also hop into the gunner seat while in flight and generally have enough time for couple of kills before having to switch back.

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

I get accolades in every game no matter what because my name starts with A and its at the very top of the list lmao

Collapsing Farts
Jun 29, 2018

💀
my autoshogun now has 20 bullet magazines :getin:

Jeff Fatwood
Jun 17, 2013

DrBox posted:

The current vehicle spawn system could use tweaks for sure, but play BF3 for a while to be reminded of how dumb the "spawn and try to race your teammates to the vehicles" is. I was ahead of a guy going for the chopper so he pulled out an RPG and blew it up before I could get it.

Yet another beautiful 20 year old Battlefield tradition that the evil devs took away.

Perestroika posted:

Yeah, solo mode is pretty good for unlocking the first few attack helicopter unlocks, since it's pretty difficult to actually get kills as the pilots with the default rockets. Note that you can also hop into the gunner seat while in flight and generally have enough time for couple of kills before having to switch back.

The seat switch almost feels OP because I have a distant memory of choppers in older games almost instantly taking crazy dives if you switched seats (to use the TV missile). Here it just gently glides the way you were going giving you ample time to snipe with the turret.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Perestroika posted:

Yeah, solo mode is pretty good for unlocking the first few attack helicopter unlocks, since it's pretty difficult to actually get kills as the pilots with the default rockets.
Oooooooo… I was wondering why the rockets sucked so much, while getting owned so hard in MP.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


One takeaway I have from playing portal with 2042 side by side, is that one of the things that actually does make BF good is how lethal everything is in BC2 and BF3. Which is why I'm not huge on all of the people whining about "nerfs" that need to happen. Don't nerf poo poo. Buff poo poo. The vehicle gunners being lethal as gently caress in 2042 is actually super fun and way better than the dickless plinking in later games. The problem is that the countermeasures arent good. In BC2 a vehicle can wreck you out of nowhere, but you can also strait up solo a tank with an RPG and then out-snipe a sniper in between. To kill a tank with an M5 you have to coordinate a group which sucks. Even C5 is hit or miss. I'm not even talking about the infantry v infantry issues in this game. that's a whole other can of worms. Just make it so infantry can feel more powerful and a lot of the problems with this game are solved imo. And it would also keep the vehicles fun.

I have feeling a bunch of vehicles are just going to get huge damage nerfs which is the most boring solution. Shoot the launcher damage up through the roof. keep the vehicles the same. just make everyone feel like their poo poo kicks rear end and they are on a more even playing field.

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

They need to speed up the rocket launcher, it just kinda floats through the air and vehicles at any distance at all can cruise out of the way. In BF5 I could land some sick leading shots with the rocket but the slow speed combined iwth the increased vehicle speed makes the thing feel like I'm firing a bottlerocket or something.

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Caesar Saladin posted:

They need to speed up the rocket launcher, it just kinda floats through the air and vehicles at any distance at all can cruise out of the way. In BF5 I could land some sick leading shots with the rocket but the slow speed combined iwth the increased vehicle speed makes the thing feel like I'm firing a bottlerocket or something.

In general I'd like it if they added a couple more rocket launchers. They had a solid spread in BF4 with a trade-off between ease of use and damage. One with a very fast rocket that deals middling damage, one with a slow one that deals huge damage, one that's guided but useless against infantry, and so on.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


veni veni veni posted:

One takeaway I have from playing portal with 2042 side by side, is that one of the things that actually does make BF good is how lethal everything is in BC2 and BF3. Which is why I'm not huge on all of the people whining about "nerfs" that need to happen. Don't nerf poo poo. Buff poo poo. The vehicle gunners being lethal as gently caress in 2042 is actually super fun and way better than the dickless plinking in later games. The problem is that the countermeasures arent good. In BC2 a vehicle can wreck you out of nowhere, but you can also strait up solo a tank with an RPG and then out-snipe a sniper in between. To kill a tank with an M5 you have to coordinate a group which sucks. Even C5 is hit or miss. I'm not even talking about the infantry v infantry issues in this game. that's a whole other can of worms. Just make it so infantry can feel more powerful and a lot of the problems with this game are solved imo. And it would also keep the vehicles fun.

I have feeling a bunch of vehicles are just going to get huge damage nerfs which is the most boring solution. Shoot the launcher damage up through the roof. keep the vehicles the same. just make everyone feel like their poo poo kicks rear end and they are on a more even playing field.

This game has the oddest problem of vehicles being extremely powerful but also almost pointless at swinging the battle. One stinger still forces a pilot to gently caress off for 21 seconds.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

It's really funny when people in a Bolte notice the Drone of Death incoming and speed off.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



dog nougat posted:

Finally unlocked the Bolte. It's so drat ridiculous. Like hovercraft are annoying, but relatively easy to counter comparatively. This is just a murder machine.

Really? I found the Bolte quite easy to counter compared to the hovercraft. Any rocket from the side(or a hit from the anti material rifle) will basically disable it's tracks which leaves it moving slowly or not at all. Then it's dead.

Collapsing Farts posted:

my autoshogun now has 20 bullet magazines :getin:

I still use the 14 round mag because the total ammo carried is 45 vs the 40 when using the drum. I want my 5 ammo Dice!

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Hopper
Dec 28, 2004

BOOING! BOOING!
Grimey Drawer

SplitSoul posted:

It's really funny when people in a Bolte notice the Drone of Death incoming and speed off.

Most drivers don't really notice the drone at all. I am looking forward to the changes with the glowing lights, maybe we can chase vehicles away with unarmed drones.

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