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Computer Serf posted:so bitcoin did a "soft fork" upgrade that adds a mixer into transactions now it’s not a mixer in any way, this is just faketoshi fans trying to make their coin the «good» one like, the «batch verification» is not mixing signatures, it’s just doing fancy math so the computer can verify several signatures at once and save CPU power* - the signatures are still distinct and unmixed just as before *this is unrelated to mining which is still the same as before and still wasting the same energy ymgve fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Nov 27, 2021 |
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Djeser posted:does anyone remember which bitcoin wallet it was that used random.org for entropy so when random.org changed its API it just started using the HTTP error code as its random seed instead the additional layer of hilarity is because the app was using http instead of https and random.org stopped supporting http because lol
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 10:44 |
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the problem was noticed in may 2015. random.org made the change in january
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 10:46 |
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oh and in case anybody needs this explicitly explained: this is another case where the implementation errors and stupid decisions kinda obscure the fundamental conceptual fuckups at the heart of a crypto operation not handing an error code is an error. using http instead of https for data you need to keep private is loving asinine. but this all kinda obscures the fact that you shouldn't be using a third party website as a randomness source in the first loving place
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 10:52 |
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Shame Boy posted:at thanksgiving yesterday my dad made me explain in great detail why bitcoin was a terrible idea and a complete scam so he could record it, because he apparently has a bitcoiner coworker who won't shut up about it this is a few years old, but the first minute still very succinctly and clearly states why bitcoin is garbage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQlNyTR8vz0
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https://twitter.com/tolstoybb/status/1464336243362185217
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SubG posted:not handing an error code is an error. using http instead of https for data you need to keep private is loving asinine. but this all kinda obscures the fact that you shouldn't be using a third party website as a randomness source in the first loving place random.org's whole purpose is to provide random numbers based on physical processes. I'm not sure exactly what the issue is here.
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 16:52 |
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ultrafilter posted:random.org's whole purpose is to provide random numbers based on physical processes. I'm not sure exactly what the issue is here. they claim that but how do you know it’s true also if they log all random numbers they serve out they can break a lot of crypto using those numbers
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 17:09 |
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ymgve posted:they claim that but how do you know it’s true yeah there's nothing wrong with trusting random.org with D&D dice rolls. it's the implicit "for security purposes related to high value assets" that makes it a very bad idea to trust a third party
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 17:17 |
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wasn't there some other similar thing where when the site found out that the bitcoin application was scraping their page they just changed the page to read "gently caress off"?
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 18:02 |
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KnifeWrench posted:yeah there's nothing wrong with trusting random.org with D&D dice rolls. it's the implicit "for security purposes related to high value assets" that makes it a very bad idea to trust a third party People who make things for others to make money cannot be trusted to not build in “back doors” in the weeds. I never played poker online, especially with real money. How do you honestly, really know the code doesn’t allow every other “player” to be basically a bot that can not only know your cards, but in dealing you specific, pregenerated card sets that give the “house” + 8 bots a 99.9% probability of advantage on every hand? And allow you a specific amount of “winnings” on smaller pots for engagement metrics? Which has literally already happened on massive scales (can’t cite exactly; this is years-old info but can be found. Maybe Poker-stars.com or something really big during the Texas Hold-em boom?) That’s just one major-trusted real money gambling operation…history is rife with scams on physical slot machines and roulette wheels, and while possible legit places are making enough with standard house advantages to not gently caress up and get gaming regulators and agencies involved. Machines and worse, software-based gambling is even worse, because Apple could theoretically forward every iPhone touch to the NSA on purpose and install “files” in weird places unknown to the public that are instant felonies. Do they? No, but you could never know for certain, and although that’s crazy talk (disclosure:I am a heavily medicated paranoid schizophrenic), even normal-folk must admit it is technically possible (although as unlikely as the solar system in entirety quantum-tunneling to Betelgeuse). Like said above, D&D dice rollers can’t really destroy you permanently, but mortgages to buy Etherium in a completely manipulated and totally fungible code-prone-to-mistakes that aren’t even purposely malignant can! People trusted Madoff for decades, and that was in a heavily regulated financial system prone to fraud and exploitation by knowledgeable insiders. People give money online to ape.jpg and can’t understand how they lost it all. Maybe I really am the only sane person after all, but when I think poo poo like that for real I end up back in restraints getting stabbed by a trans woman roommate while sedated. “Code is law” is one of the most ridiculous statements ever coined.
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DerekSmartymans posted:People who make things for others to make money cannot be trusted to not build in “back doors” in the weeds. I never played poker online, especially with real money. How do you honestly, really know the code doesn’t allow every other “player” to be basically a bot that can not only know your cards, but in dealing you specific, pregenerated card sets that give the “house” + 8 bots a 99.9% probability of advantage on every hand? And allow you a specific amount of “winnings” on smaller pots for engagement metrics? Which has literally already happened on massive scales (can’t cite exactly; this is years-old info but can be found. Maybe Poker-stars.com or something really big during the Texas Hold-em boom?) That’s just one major-trusted real money gambling operation…history is rife with scams on physical slot machines and roulette wheels, and while possible legit places are making enough with standard house advantages to not gently caress up and get gaming regulators and agencies involved. Machines and worse, software-based gambling is even worse, because Apple could theoretically forward every iPhone touch to the NSA on purpose and install “files” in weird places unknown to the public that are instant felonies. Do they? No, but you could never know for certain, and although that’s crazy talk (disclosure:I am a heavily medicated paranoid schizophrenic), even normal-folk must admit it is technically possible (although as unlikely as the solar system in entirety quantum-tunneling to Betelgeuse). Code is slaw dog OP
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 18:23 |
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rip morayeel
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EorayMel posted:I've spent the last 18 months with a reclusive scientist (Wilford) building a technology that can gather all of the world's wisdom, and put it into a bank – a community wisdom bank – for everyone's benefit. Anyone can deposit their own wisdom into the bank and get returns of wisdom from millions of never-before-accessible communities. This is good for bitcoin.
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EorayMel posted:I've spent the last 18 months with a reclusive scientist (Wilford) building a technology that can gather all of the world's wisdom, and put it into a bank – a community wisdom bank – for everyone's benefit
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Chris Knight posted:ok so who is John Galt? many people saying this
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 21:08 |
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many questions on Galt. new questions.
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Chris Knight posted:ok so who is John Galt? a man who swears-by his life and his love of it-that he will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for him.
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Chris Knight posted:ok so who is John Galt? Here's a hint: https://twitter.com/existentialcoms/status/1464686423596945408
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 22:07 |
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the icing on the cake is it's actually way more than $4.9 billion lmao
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 22:21 |
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Everyone's asking who is John Galt, nobody's asking how is John Galt...
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 22:38 |
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but i like how...
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Paladinus posted:Everyone's asking who is John Galt, nobody's asking how is John Galt... mr galt doesn't care about anyone else and would be incredibly insulted if anyone cared for him
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Boxturret posted:mr galt doesn't care about anyone else and would be incredibly insulted if anyone cared for him He doesn't care if he cares about other people caring either.
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Paladinus posted:He doesn't care if he cares about other people caring either. no he cares very deeply, that's why he made that year long radio broadcast telling everyone how much he doesn't care about them
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Boxturret posted:no he cares very deeply, that's why he made that year long radio broadcast telling everyone how much he doesn't care about them The outro of The Social Network but with the other idiot meme billionaire
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ultrafilter posted:random.org's whole purpose is to provide random numbers based on physical processes. I'm not sure exactly what the issue is here. more generally, you're expanding your circle of transitive trust relationships in ways you probably aren't expecting. you're always more or less forced to accept as an article of ideological faith the security of: the hardware that's generating the random noise; the algorithm that's sampling bits from the noise source; the bios/os/libraries/whatever that provide the high-level interface you're using to access that poo poo; and the app that's using the api. if you're using a third party website for all this you're adding everybody involved with the administration of the web site, the code used by the web site, and poo poo you're probably not thinking of right now unless you've stepped on this particular rake (or seen someone else step on it), like: your DNS services, your route tables, and so on and this is another example of the implementation errors hiding the gross conceptual error, because any device where you might have need for a cryptographically secure randomness source already has one onboard and so you should be using it instead of cobbling together something that relies on, among other things, a functioning internet connection in order to work there's that bit that douglas adams writes about everything that the sirius cybernetics corporation is such garbage that the fact that they don't do anything well is concealed by the sense of accomplishment whenever you manage to get them to do anything at all. crypto projects are sort of the ones complement of this idea, where all the implementation errors tend to distract from the crippling fundamental design flaws
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 23:31 |
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why do you need some site to give you a random number, 3 is right there
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 23:57 |
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Boxturret posted:why do people always think that if you test it with a tiny amount that means it's safe to throw everything you own in the hole?? i got a WoW gold from a guy in stormwind advertising he'd give back double whatever you traded him
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https://twitter.com/jorgestolfi/status/1464668418150391809
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# ? Nov 28, 2021 01:21 |
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congrats on reinventing CDO squared I guess
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# ? Nov 28, 2021 01:34 |
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elon pls call the crisis counseling line, there's life after tax
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# ? Nov 28, 2021 02:11 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqr0oER03SE I can't wait to be contacted by elon msuk, personally, with a personal video to me only asking me by name to give him bitcoins so he can give me 5x back
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# ? Nov 28, 2021 07:15 |
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the man formerly best known as “the one that isn’t simon pegg” is now on the train too https://twitter.com/timmaughan/status/1464751207340257280?s=21
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# ? Nov 28, 2021 07:57 |
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Penisface posted:but i like how... agreed, how is NOT john galt
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# ? Nov 28, 2021 08:05 |
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EorayMel posted:Code is slaw dog OP All that and paraphrased by Bitcoin Threads Poet in Residence.
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SubG posted:
That’s Gentoo.
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njsykora posted:the man formerly best known as “the one that isn’t simon pegg” is now on the train too 1.2 million followers, posts this: https://twitter.com/nickjfrost/status/1464749188604956673?s=21 @doodtown only has 479 followers lmao
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@doodtown sounds like somebody's prinny erotic fan fiction
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