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LampkinsMateSteve posted:The people on Reddit swearing allegiance to never reviving, healing, or resupplying teammates who wear the Santa outfit just make want to use that skin even more. Oh no, now instead of getting revived 0 times per match I'll be revived 0 times per match.
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Warad posted:it is going to be interesting to see all the youtube takes whiplash from "NEW PATCH GAME IS SAVED" to "SANTA SKIN? NEW LOW FOR BATTLEFIELD" COD expects this kind of nonsense, so it makes sense. There's always been "xx420smokeweedeverydayxx" tags in the game since Modern Warfare 1 which came out, what, 12 years ago? Hence why you could be a female black nazi in COD:WWII 4 years ago with not much of a peep while the similar "WOMEN??? IN MY BATTLEFIELD!!!" for BFV stuck around and still goes to this day. I will say, there are plenty of R6:Siege players that hate the direction that Siege has gone in. But at the same time, Ubisoft has made such a loving joke out the Tom Clancy franchise that at this point people are probably just done.
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jisforjosh posted:Yeah those were iffy but not in the same level as soldier skins. They also had gold tank and plane skins too, although you don't see 'em much. I do agree that Boris Santa skin is pretty egregious but it's the continuation of a theme, like the easy-to-get hot pink neon gun skins for the operators in R6. Once you go down that road it ends in Sundance's wingsuit having Batman logos on it.
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Cutedge posted:I will say, there are plenty of R6:Siege players that hate the direction that Siege has gone in. But at the same time, Ubisoft has made such a loving joke out the Tom Clancy franchise that at this point people are probably just done. Even when Siege was still "serious" there was still some questionable immersion breaking headgear and gun skins front and center. I'm certainly not excusing the practice since I too would like my wargames to actually be consistent but when it comes to selling cosmetics it's just an inevitability, even games like Insurgency have ended up doing this. Best thing you can hope for is that they're not TOO gaudy, which compared to the BF5 christmas outfits, Santa Boris isn't actually that bad, and the Tank actually looks pretty awesome.
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This is nothing compared to some of the ridiculous skins you could design for yourself in Hardline for both your character and weapons. I wish they brought the gun bench back. COD sort of redid it with gunsmith.
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Defenestrategy posted:When did dice do this? There was a weirdo who was able to figure out how to circumvent battlefield 2's player cap and we learned on that engine that poo poo is fairly stable til you approach 100 dudes, but it was only really used for mods who designed around it. They tested BF3 internally with 128 players and found it was a clusterfuck.  Proven true by BF1 Operations with 40 players being the superior mode to 64.
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jisforjosh posted:They tested BF3 internally with 128 players and found it was a clusterfuck. Lol and guess who quit working at DICE and EA in late 2018...
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KrunkMcGrunk posted:Lol and guess who quit working at DICE and EA in late 2018... Alongside the lead directors in animation, art, sound design, and the senior artists from BF3, 4, and 1...
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jisforjosh posted:Alongside the lead directors in animation, art, sound design, and the senior artists from BF3, 4, and 1... Man I didn't know brain drain hit dice that hard
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128 players means any one player is pretty insignificant to the outcome of a math, well unless you're a skylord who can just dominate an entire match.
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MAG proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that more is not necessarily better, and it did it over a decade ago.
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Popete posted:128 players means any one player is pretty insignificant to the outcome of a math, well unless you're a skylord who can just dominate an entire match. There was some streamer, can't remember who, that was complaining that they can assault a point and take out 15 people singlehandedly and there's just 20 more people around the corner lol KrunkMcGrunk posted:Man I didn't know brain drain hit dice that hard https://twitter.com/ogabrielson/status/1466452707544346626 this dude just turned down an EA General Manager position today and left DICE
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I really don't mind 128 players. It's a good gimmick-mode when you just want a hellish clusterfuck. But the addition of this recent Rush mode has proven, very clearly, to me and many others, that one of the biggest issues with BF2042 is the fact that the "main" mode is the 128 player mode. Everything plays better in the smaller Rush mode. The specialists actually matter a lot more now, for example. You're not just fodder in a meatgrinder
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Hopper posted:But how do we get the skiiiiiiins? Tell me now, I am at work and can't wait to piss of "serious gamers" .  Gentlegoons I propose we flex on Reddit by deploying squads with Santa Boris to troll on them
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BF4 (and BF1) were both really good. There's some clunkiness to the old BF4 networking and meta, so people these days slide around at 200 ping and get knife instakills by jumping first to glitch it. A remaster with cool new maps would've been Good Enough. Somehow the new maps just don't feel as compelling, especially after BF1's variety. Although I like Breakaway but it still isn't great for 128. Hourglass should feel better but doesn't play well with the capture zones and overall gameplay.
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Collapsing Farts posted:I really don't mind 128 players. It's a good gimmick-mode when you just want a hellish clusterfuck. Yeah I don't hate 128 player mode, it can be fun and chaotic but there are matches were it feels like all I'm doing is spawning running around a giant map and randomly getting killed from someone I never saw.
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Anyone here playing on PS5? From what I can tell this patch reduced the framerate in the menus to 30fps, i have no idea why
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I'm indifferent to 128 players. The moment to moment gameplay doesn't feel any different to me (in conquest). Its only the effect one squad can have is diminished. Larger squads would help. Breakthrough however is just a meatgrinder. But people loving loved poo poo maps like metro, so they got what they wanted.
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I'm not trying to open a can of worms here, but I can't honestly discern what the thread's opinion is of this game is. So as someone who played several Battlefield games ~15 years ago and loved it, but hasn't played since BF3 (and only that a little bit), is this worth getting? I know reddit is completely melting down over 2042 and reviews have been generally mediocre but the unreliability of that is making me question whether I should make the time investment or not.
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Capped posted:I'm not trying to open a can of worms here, but I can't honestly discern what the thread's opinion is of this game is. So as someone who played several Battlefield games ~15 years ago and loved it, but hasn't played since BF3 (and only that a little bit), is this worth getting? I know reddit is completely melting down over 2042 and reviews have been generally mediocre but the unreliability of that is making me question whether I should make the time investment or not. You've gone this long not playing a battlefield. Id wait another few months and see. Even those of us who like it (I'm one of them) feel its been released to soon. With the bad press its seen, id expect a good 30-50% off sale in jan/feb. It will have had minimum 1 more patch by then. likely more. Also note performance is iffy and its mostly CPU bound. Got anything weaker than 8+/8+? then you're in for a rough ride. Performance patches wont come until next year. Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Dec 2, 2021 |
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Yeah four-player squads are definitely just one of the problems for a 128-player mode. I get the idea that they kind of wanted to allow two or three smaller Battlefield matches to happen at a time given most zone layouts, followed by dramatic ones where everybody had a single target, although it never seems to work quite right. I feel like the capture zones themselves are too small so the actual on-the-point team compositions are like, 3 vs 7 (tops!) with the majority of vehicles and players never setting foot on the actual capture zone. In 4/1/5 you'd get truly contested points more often (so it feels) instead of weird stalemates. Think of Monte Grappa in BF1 and how assaults on objectives looked there, it felt like everybody was much closer to the action during attack/defense and you'd have more people actively engaged or on a flag despite team sizes cut in half vs 2042. Maybe they need the zones bigger and much more clear somehow visually. It's not as obvious when you're capturing a point as it used to be, and the UI was spamming you with info and orders didn't lay down correctly. All quite fixable. Chronojam fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Dec 2, 2021 |
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jisforjosh posted:They tested BF3 internally with 128 players and found it was a clusterfuck. Is it true that 128 players would always be worse or is it true that DICE don't really know how to design maps and the good maps they do design are accidental? I enter into evidence that two maps in breakthrough have literally the same problem flag.
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I enjoy 128-players sometimes. Maybe placebo, but I felt a bit smoother performance today. Rush is good - Kaleidescope is a good map?? Who knew. Only took 16v16 Rush... needs more tickets though. Can't wait to Cosplay as the Comedy Bang Bang version of Santa though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9LfPx9MDZc
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Capped posted:I'm not trying to open a can of worms here, but I can't honestly discern what the thread's opinion is of this game is. So as someone who played several Battlefield games ~15 years ago and loved it, but hasn't played since BF3 (and only that a little bit), is this worth getting? I know reddit is completely melting down over 2042 and reviews have been generally mediocre but the unreliability of that is making me question whether I should make the time investment or not. Wait a few months or do EA Play for a 10 hour trial. Personally, I can't recommend the game to anyone and I've played and enjoyed every PC BF since 1942 except for Hardline but different strokes for different folks Defenestrategy posted:Is it true that 128 players would always be worse or is it true that DICE don't really know how to design maps and the good maps they do design are accidental? I enter into evidence that two maps in breakthrough have literally the same problem flag. DICE can barely design 64 player maps anymore given how many lackluster ones were in BFV so it's probably that they've slowly bled level and gameplay designers since 2017 jisforjosh fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Dec 2, 2021 |
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Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:MAG proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that more is not necessarily better, and it did it over a decade ago. MAG loving owned though. Aeka 2.0 posted:are SMGs still the way to go? The M5A3 and AK24 are both really good now.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:MAG loving owned though. Thanks.
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Capped posted:I'm not trying to open a can of worms here, but I can't honestly discern what the thread's opinion is of this game is. So as someone who played several Battlefield games ~15 years ago and loved it, but hasn't played since BF3 (and only that a little bit), is this worth getting? I know reddit is completely melting down over 2042 and reviews have been generally mediocre but the unreliability of that is making me question whether I should make the time investment or not. Why should the thread have a unified opinion Get it on EA so you can have a healthy return period
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jisforjosh posted:I've played and enjoyed every PC BF since 1942 except for Hardline It's me, I'm the weirdo who thought Hardline was the Apex of what the post 2142 direction of Battlefield was going to give us. It had novel mechanics, I don't remember the gun play being terrible, map design wasn't offensive, KRS-ONE, and the car chase mode was fairly inventive. The only reason I didn't play more of it, was I was the only one in my friends circle who believed in that battlefield and purchased it.
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I like breakthrough mode. generally I can stay outside the meatgrinder areas or get behind enemy lines with an insertion beacon and still be effective, especially with Sundance
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I just played a few rounds of BFV for the first time and that game kind of owns? What was it that people didn't like about that one exactly? I played for ~45 minutes and it really makes all the stuff they omitted from 2042 stand out like a sore thumb. The levels felt varied with a lot of verticality and buildings to go in and out of, the sound is amazing, the destruction tech looks/feels better, etc. I remember initially being critical of how BF1 and BFV looked and felt more like a reskinned Battlefront but going back to it after playing 10 or so hours of 2042 is like "oh yeah this is why these games are fun" IIRC battlefield V went through a lot of post launch polishing to get to the point where it is now so it's not impossible that they can turn around 2042 some day. I'll probably wait until I can buy it for $5 or have Amazon give it to me like I did with BF1/V to try it though.
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Collapsing Farts posted:I really don't mind 128 players. It's a good gimmick-mode when you just want a hellish clusterfuck. I love meatgrinders for some reason. I used to play on those Metro 24/7 servers. I want Metro with 128 players.
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BF5 is actually quite good in terms of mechanics. Like, if I could get the movement and guns into BF1 that would pretty much be my "perfect" Battlefield game.
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Vince Zampilla taking over Dice is a good thing imo
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Reddit really hates that Santa skin, it’s literally the death of gaming for them lol. Is it available to get right now?
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explosivo posted:I just played a few rounds of BFV for the first time and that game kind of owns? What was it that people didn't like about that one exactly? I played for ~45 minutes and it really makes all the stuff they omitted from 2042 stand out like a sore thumb. The levels felt varied with a lot of verticality and buildings to go in and out of, the sound is amazing, the destruction tech looks/feels better, etc. I remember initially being critical of how BF1 and BFV looked and felt more like a reskinned Battlefront but going back to it after playing 10 or so hours of 2042 is like "oh yeah this is why these games are fun" I enjoyed BFV up until they screwed up the TTK a year after launch and I think the main issue a lot of people had with the game at the time was it was the first 'live service' BF game and it launched with what felt like less content than previous games. None of the iconic WWII battles and just UK vs Germany as factions.
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