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External Organs posted:I'm not well versed but aren't statements like that hilariously illegal? All the anti unionization stuff I've heard of is more subtle / coded kind of language. You think that anybody in a position of power to slap them for that statement is even remotely pro-union*, or even anything less than "extremely hostile to the idea of unions*"? * Other than police unions, lol
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Dick Burglar posted:You think that anybody in a position of power to slap them for that statement is even remotely pro-union*, or even anything less than "extremely hostile to the idea of unions*"?
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Like people said, it doesn't look like anything illegal. You can say that your workers are better off without a union all you want, even though you're lying. You can't threaten them or try and interfere with the voting process, but you absolutely can go "no more free oatmeal, you know, cause of budgets"
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Ash1138 posted:um i think you'll find that president joseph robinette biden ii, progressive champion of the galaxy, supports unions and has done all he can as president to support them. in fact, he has done all that can be done and if you don't agree then maybe try living in the real world there, sport. Who exactly do you think you're owning here?
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I love the followup. https://twitter.com/Shannon_Liao/status/1469367846878674947
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just words, but it's more words than a sitting president has uttered for unions in a long while https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...g-negotiations/
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Biden fuckin sucks for sure, but the NLRB is one of the places where having Dems in power actually pushed the needle, under Trump they never filled one of the seats and it stood at 3-1 in favor of the corps with Republican chair and counsel, in 2021 it is 3-2 in favor of the Dems and the general counsel has published multiple memos expressly supporting broader interpretations of labor rights, the Amazon ruling was a good sign This doesn't make things easy by any means but it is more favorable terrain for union action
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Nybble posted:just words, but it's more words than a sitting president has uttered for unions in a long while https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...g-negotiations/
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Just a quick reminder this isn't D&D or CSPAM. Let's not have this argument here.
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The Activision email is loving weird to me because I've only seen union busting around elections and not card signing. Companies usually stress that the card isn't legally binding, you haven't signed away anything, and you can go into the booth and there's nobody who will know if you vote against the union. Seeing them say the opposite when they'll have to argue otherwise if the cards get signed seems myopic but I'm no union buster.
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Harrow posted:Just a quick reminder this isn't D&D or CSPAM. Let's not have this argument here. Yeah guys let's leave the politics out of discussing a unionbusting piece of poo poo company
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Folks, I'm starting to think the world would be way better off without straight white men in positions of power.
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30.5 Days posted:The Activision email is loving weird to me because I've only seen union busting around elections and not card signing. Companies usually stress that the card isn't legally binding, you haven't signed away anything, and you can go into the booth and there's nobody who will know if you vote against the union. Seeing them say the opposite when they'll have to argue otherwise if the cards get signed seems myopic but I'm no union buster. They’ll just do both and the majority of people /employees will forget about the contradiction by time it comes to sending out the election related emails.
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External Organs posted:I'm not well versed but aren't statements like that hilariously illegal? All the anti unionization stuff I've heard of is more subtle / coded kind of language. The US doesn't have laws in the same way that modern countries do
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To be fair they've been trying to get ahead of the story since 2018 shortly after the new CEO got the job.
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I always wondered why they put the guy who spearheaded sun setting out to pasture
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Sexual Aluminum posted:I always wondered why they put the guy who spearheaded sun setting out to pasture Who was that? I only vaguely followed Destiny around then.
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Sachant posted:Who was that? I only vaguely followed Destiny around then. Luke Smith. Game is much better w/ him not being director.
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Verdugo posted:Luke Smith. Game is much better w/ him not being director. It was so shocking that having the boss be a dedicated hardcore WoW raider ended up being a horrible time for everyone involved
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:It was so shocking that having the boss be a dedicated hardcore WoW raider ended up being a horrible time for everyone involved sending positive vibes to ion hazzikostas inevitable retirement
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The Roblox saga continues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTMF6xEiAaY
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Can someone give me a TLDR on what is going with roblox?
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commando in tophat posted:Can someone give me a TLDR on what is going with roblox? This video goes into good detail about what's going on with Roblox. It's basically an operation where all of their content is created by freelance developers that they pay in an online version of corporate script (which developers can't exchange unless they meet certain extremely high thresholds, and even then the exchange rate is extremely low of robux -> real life money) and fosters an ecosystem where a good majority of the money developers make is spent on further roblox (i.e. advertising for their games). I'm sure there's more heinous stuff that the video covers that i'm forgetting.
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commando in tophat posted:Can someone give me a TLDR on what is going with roblox? Basically the games industry, just the devs are also kids.
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Ah okay thanks, I was expecting something worse, but it is "only" really lovely payment scheme for modders. I mean compared to poo poo at blizzard and others 
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commando in tophat posted:Ah okay thanks, I was expecting something worse, but it is "only" really lovely payment scheme for modders. I mean compared to poo poo at blizzard and others I mean, there's pedophiles trawling the platform and there is other abuse so, on par with, I'd say.
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Splorange posted:I mean, there's pedophiles trawling the platform and there is other abuse so, on par with, I'd say. loving hell of course there is. Say what you will about Nintendo's limited investment in online communication in their games, but it's probably hard to search for young kids in Mario Maker and be loving creepy.
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External Organs posted:loving hell of course there is. That's explicitly one of the big reasons they've been so halting and frustrating about online with ridiculous friend code setups and limited communication and phone apps. They've been terrified of the day a newspaper can run a headline 'predator stalks child through their Nintendo'.
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MikeJF posted:That's explicitly one of the big reasons they've been so halting and frustrating about online with ridiculous friend code setups and limited communication and phone apps. They've been terrified of the day a newspaper can run a headline 'predator stalks child through their Nintendo'. Honestly now that I am a parent I totally get it. Roblox was one of those things that I was thinking "well, maybe I'll have to learn about this poo poo in a few years"
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Watching more of the video, how is this roblox legal? Is there a checkbox that says "i am totally 18yo"? I would assume there would be laws about paying money to children, internet or not (at least I europe I would hope). I guess I don't even have to ask if their banning reports of pedos, because of course they won't care if it doesn't make money
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Probably because they’re getting paid in Robux and not actual money unless you’re devoting an unseemly amount of time to develop specifically for Roblox. It’s incredibly hard to make an actual living off Roblox development. There’s a few companies that try but after hearing what they have to do to make it, you’d almost think it would be worth just going off on your own.
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Invalid Validation posted:Probably because they’re getting paid in Robux and not actual money unless you’re devoting an unseemly amount of time to develop specifically for Roblox. It’s incredibly hard to make an actual living off Roblox development. There’s a few companies that try but after hearing what they have to do to make it, you’d almost think it would be worth just going off on your own. That's how it remains unfortunately legal. The other problem is that Roblox is heinously predatory in their advertising "making money" to kids extremely aggressively. Basically getting free labor from child developers who don't have anywhere near the capacity to understand that they are being used. It's extremely disturbing to say the least
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Speaking of exploitation and abuse. What's better than being paid scraps for it? Why, paying tuition for it of course! Jimquisition talks about DigiPen: The College That Teaches Crunch Culture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vorBajs3-yE (edited in the new link) Splorange posted:The Roblox saga continues: 
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Haven’t watched the video yet and didn’t go there myself, but the coworkers I’ve had who went to digipen have all been pretty good at what they do. Not saying it as a justification for anything lovely they may do, but they do seem to be reasonably good at creating decent game devs. e: Alright, watched the video, and a lot of that is pretty bad, but it's largely - though not completely - bad in a way that mirrors the current state of the large parts of the game industry itself. Part of me says that it's at least good for students to know what they're getting themselves in to in the real world, but it's also stuff that really needs to change in the industry. Kind of a chicken and egg problem here and both sides need fixing. chglcu fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Dec 13, 2021 |
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My kid plays Roblox a bunch. It’s very hosed up even if you don’t look into the more skeevy bits. Most of their content is stolen for example.
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Poil posted:Speaking of exploitation and abuse. What's better than being paid scraps for it? Why, paying tuition for it of course! I watched it this morning, and memories of going there 15 years ago all came rising back up. Students crying in the bathrooms during finals, some just refusing to come back in to classes, and that was just freshman year. The video also doesn't dip into the art degree side which was rife with its own bullshit.
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